I recently read a resume from a *university graduate* seeking application to a teacher education program. She wished to highlight (I am guessing) her experience as a *tutor*, but the resume itself read as follows:
“Torturing high school with English and Social Studies – not for charge;
Torturing elementary school with reading and printing – not for charge.”
The applicant’s first (and only) language was English (after a fashion).
If that’s an example of her language skills, she had indeed use the correct word to describe what she was doing.
I am tortured daily by reading blogs and MSM newspapers!
The lessons we learned by grade six seem to have disappeared from the curriculum.
There,their,they’re.
They become journalists because “Meth is hard.”
“Hole Word Lurners, They’ve grown up and gotten jobs.”
Not at my company. But I’m sure there is plenty of work in the MSM for people with low skill sets.
Quite right,dmorris. Sort of like to,too,two.
@richfisher:
“Meth is hard”
Heh!
In all fairness to people who comments on blogs, we don’t always put as much time into editing as we should. It’s not like we are writing a paper to hand in for grading. I often make errors that I don’t notice until after I have posted whatever it was that I wrote. I would say that a blog comment in an informal form of communication an we can forgive the odd error that we would’t forgive in legal correspondence.
How about rain, rein, reign? Or loosing (losing), dinning room and my favourite, “it’s” used as a possessive. Once saw a full-page ad on the back cover of a magazine, which must have cost $$$, read something like “Best in it’s field”.
There are two Desmond Tutus, they’re to live their lives too.
Agreed, and same here.
Whole Word isn’t that the same as hieroglyphics?
Maybe she did torture her students with her terrible skills!
English language skills are so poorly taught in schools that one may as well encourage kids to grunt. A spelling mistake every once in a while is one thing. What we are seeing is the devolution of man.
I blame this on methematics teachers.
Happy Easter.
Crystal math is for loosers.
Given that the current statists want a totally ignorant and passive sheeple population, mathematics is one of the skills which the statists are afraid people will learn. Hence their need to bust “math labs”. People in the “math lab” might be able to multiply using log tables and that would be a very bad situation for the statists.
Yeah well, sometimes we use bad spelling fer effect.
I really was bemused when this whole language stuff wuz bein’ taught. When parents went to PT nights they were advised to buy their kids “Hooked On Phonics”…….
English and most Indo-European Languages are phonetic…with standardised spelling……with the exception of the Eygptian hyroglyphics and the asian hyroglyphics……
Perhaps the oldest written language Sanscrit defied translation for a long time. The academics assumed it was merely a different kind of hyroglyphics…..but then one day an undergraduate discovered it was phonetic and the ancestor of our own alphabet. Suddenly the archives of the Sumerians, Assyrians etc were open.
We have been using phonics for nearly as long as written records, if not as long, and these fools think that they can devise a new way of teaching readin’ and writin’….
It seems they confused learning to read with reading. Once we are proficient/conditioned in phonetic reading we do practice sight reading…but then we also make errors in comprehension as well. Sorta like this capcha thing….it makes more mistakes than I do….grrr.
“Hooked on Phonics” was preceded by “Why Johnny Can’t Read” and, before that, Hilda ? “So Little for the Mind.”
Before ‘whole word’ teaching, the expectation was that (barring those with VERY low iq’s) every child could read. Grammar was a different matter. But reading, well, it was universal, even among the poor and disadvantaged.
I ‘tortured’ my niece by having her read (aloud) poems by Robert Service. She was in grade 7 at the time. She couldn’t do so: she had never heard the words Service used in his poetry. Robert Service’s poetry was at one time, a BEST SELLER. People at all levels of society read and memorized his poetry.
In the 1960s, My father spend a lot of time in construction camps out in the bush. He noticed that men who had been educated in Europe read books. Men who had been educated in Canada, if they read at all, read comic books.
Too many people relying on technology to be intuitive to what they are trying to say.
I see too many people (wifey included) relying strictly on spell check to correct speeling/typing errors. While it works for that, spellcheck does not fix or choose the correct word.
Proof-reading is a lost skill…………..
see…see…see. I won’t pretend to be a good typist……s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g
To quote, “relying strictly on spell check to correct speeling/typing errors? Thanks for the chuckle, DanBC! Maybe your (you’re, yore) wife is right (Wright, write) to rely on spell checkers…
With a German/Mennonite accent it all makes sanse
Math Lab are Lurners > prospective geometry, infinitesimal calculus, algebra, geometry, analysis math& logic, Set theory, Order theory , Group theory, Number theory, string theory, Vector calculus, Differential equations, chaos theory, complex analysis, math control theory, probability theory, vector calculus, differential equations, finance, biologs and economics ~ that’s best Time, Thanks…
You listed vector calculus and differential equations twice.
I must be very bored.
Somehow despite the ravages of “spellcheck” I can’t but suspect that internet usage has improved literacy to a degree.
1) ya gotta be able to read…
2) If ya post like “OK” you are subject to derision…
Just a thought…
Texting?….(primordial scream)…
sasquatch, you’re right about needing to be able to read in order to comprehend material posted to blogs. My spelling is better now that I have spellcheck turned on but then I consider the English language abhorrent as in Ukrainian one has true phonetic spelling.
My guess is that only a few percent of the population read blogs. Most young people text, and looking at their actual texts, I suspect we’re going to have an even more critical problem with literacy in the near future. OTOH, if we’re ever at war with a country that has studied only formal English, I suspect that the texts will work as an unbreakable code.
all words are English words. English borrows any word it needs. Also English has two large root languages Latin and German giving it twice as many words as the next largest language Czech.
I thought a number of years ago that English would be locked down in spelling , apparently the living language of English as opposed to the stringency of French has broke out of the cage again with texted.
I dont think we should oppose this or English could go the way of French or Latin , dying and dead.
Give them some non-linear partial differential equations with some anomalous boundary conditions!
There that’ll learn yah…and it will mess with your head!
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
I recall an associate, Dutch, remarking that Dutch was spelled the way it wuz said….
I countered…”Spell Njmegin.”
I recently read a resume from a *university graduate* seeking application to a teacher education program. She wished to highlight (I am guessing) her experience as a *tutor*, but the resume itself read as follows:
“Torturing high school with English and Social Studies – not for charge;
Torturing elementary school with reading and printing – not for charge.”
The applicant’s first (and only) language was English (after a fashion).
If that’s an example of her language skills, she had indeed use the correct word to describe what she was doing.
I am tortured daily by reading blogs and MSM newspapers!
The lessons we learned by grade six seem to have disappeared from the curriculum.
There,their,they’re.
They become journalists because “Meth is hard.”
“Hole Word Lurners, They’ve grown up and gotten jobs.”
Not at my company. But I’m sure there is plenty of work in the MSM for people with low skill sets.
Quite right,dmorris. Sort of like to,too,two.
@richfisher:
“Meth is hard”
Heh!
In all fairness to people who comments on blogs, we don’t always put as much time into editing as we should. It’s not like we are writing a paper to hand in for grading. I often make errors that I don’t notice until after I have posted whatever it was that I wrote. I would say that a blog comment in an informal form of communication an we can forgive the odd error that we would’t forgive in legal correspondence.
How about rain, rein, reign? Or loosing (losing), dinning room and my favourite, “it’s” used as a possessive. Once saw a full-page ad on the back cover of a magazine, which must have cost $$$, read something like “Best in it’s field”.
There are two Desmond Tutus, they’re to live their lives too.
Agreed, and same here.
Whole Word isn’t that the same as hieroglyphics?
Maybe she did torture her students with her terrible skills!
English language skills are so poorly taught in schools that one may as well encourage kids to grunt. A spelling mistake every once in a while is one thing. What we are seeing is the devolution of man.
I blame this on methematics teachers.
Happy Easter.
Crystal math is for loosers.
Given that the current statists want a totally ignorant and passive sheeple population, mathematics is one of the skills which the statists are afraid people will learn. Hence their need to bust “math labs”. People in the “math lab” might be able to multiply using log tables and that would be a very bad situation for the statists.
Yeah well, sometimes we use bad spelling fer effect.
I really was bemused when this whole language stuff wuz bein’ taught. When parents went to PT nights they were advised to buy their kids “Hooked On Phonics”…….
English and most Indo-European Languages are phonetic…with standardised spelling……with the exception of the Eygptian hyroglyphics and the asian hyroglyphics……
Perhaps the oldest written language Sanscrit defied translation for a long time. The academics assumed it was merely a different kind of hyroglyphics…..but then one day an undergraduate discovered it was phonetic and the ancestor of our own alphabet. Suddenly the archives of the Sumerians, Assyrians etc were open.
We have been using phonics for nearly as long as written records, if not as long, and these fools think that they can devise a new way of teaching readin’ and writin’….
It seems they confused learning to read with reading. Once we are proficient/conditioned in phonetic reading we do practice sight reading…but then we also make errors in comprehension as well. Sorta like this capcha thing….it makes more mistakes than I do….grrr.
“Hooked on Phonics” was preceded by “Why Johnny Can’t Read” and, before that, Hilda ? “So Little for the Mind.”
Before ‘whole word’ teaching, the expectation was that (barring those with VERY low iq’s) every child could read. Grammar was a different matter. But reading, well, it was universal, even among the poor and disadvantaged.
I ‘tortured’ my niece by having her read (aloud) poems by Robert Service. She was in grade 7 at the time. She couldn’t do so: she had never heard the words Service used in his poetry. Robert Service’s poetry was at one time, a BEST SELLER. People at all levels of society read and memorized his poetry.
In the 1960s, My father spend a lot of time in construction camps out in the bush. He noticed that men who had been educated in Europe read books. Men who had been educated in Canada, if they read at all, read comic books.
Too many people relying on technology to be intuitive to what they are trying to say.
I see too many people (wifey included) relying strictly on spell check to correct speeling/typing errors. While it works for that, spellcheck does not fix or choose the correct word.
Proof-reading is a lost skill…………..
see…see…see. I won’t pretend to be a good typist……s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g
To quote, “relying strictly on spell check to correct speeling/typing errors? Thanks for the chuckle, DanBC! Maybe your (you’re, yore) wife is right (Wright, write) to rely on spell checkers…
With a German/Mennonite accent it all makes sanse
Math Lab are Lurners > prospective geometry, infinitesimal calculus, algebra, geometry, analysis math& logic, Set theory, Order theory , Group theory, Number theory, string theory, Vector calculus, Differential equations, chaos theory, complex analysis, math control theory, probability theory, vector calculus, differential equations, finance, biologs and economics ~ that’s best Time, Thanks…
You listed vector calculus and differential equations twice.
I must be very bored.
Somehow despite the ravages of “spellcheck” I can’t but suspect that internet usage has improved literacy to a degree.
1) ya gotta be able to read…
2) If ya post like “OK” you are subject to derision…
Just a thought…
Texting?….(primordial scream)…
sasquatch, you’re right about needing to be able to read in order to comprehend material posted to blogs. My spelling is better now that I have spellcheck turned on but then I consider the English language abhorrent as in Ukrainian one has true phonetic spelling.
My guess is that only a few percent of the population read blogs. Most young people text, and looking at their actual texts, I suspect we’re going to have an even more critical problem with literacy in the near future. OTOH, if we’re ever at war with a country that has studied only formal English, I suspect that the texts will work as an unbreakable code.
all words are English words. English borrows any word it needs. Also English has two large root languages Latin and German giving it twice as many words as the next largest language Czech.
I thought a number of years ago that English would be locked down in spelling , apparently the living language of English as opposed to the stringency of French has broke out of the cage again with texted.
I dont think we should oppose this or English could go the way of French or Latin , dying and dead.
Give them some non-linear partial differential equations with some anomalous boundary conditions!
There that’ll learn yah…and it will mess with your head!
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
I recall an associate, Dutch, remarking that Dutch was spelled the way it wuz said….
I countered…”Spell Njmegin.”