138 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Angry Green Party Rhetoric Fuels Violence”

  1. lol. yeah, watch out. pretty soon you’ll have university professors roaming the streets with sawed-off shotguns, and post-docs setting up sniper nests on the roofs of tall buildings.
    sadly, it appears that some of the readership here is every bit as insane as the delusional nutbag who took the Dicovery Channel hostage.

  2. hmmmmph!…now i know why they say ” don’t be a smart alex”
    dagnabbit alex i taught the kids that formula back when the world had 1/4 the population it has nowadays…
    we had more horses than humans back then….
    say alex……ever wondered why there are more horses’ asses than there are horses ?

  3. van grungy….rhode island forsooth….the whole state is mobbed up….
    ach du lieber Gott…but that’s America for you…

  4. actually alex….i think i told the kids an area of say 14 miles by 14 miles…
    i went at it that way ….
    anyway as vangrungy shewed us it really does make chopped liver of the greeny doxology…

  5. and btw did you know that ALL the roads and malls and parking lots and cities towns hamlets villages etc etc etc account for 6% of the USA’s continental land mass area…..
    i taught the kids that one as well…for all the good it did me…or them…they seem to enjoy being unconscious….playing with their ifones…going shopping…oh well…the whirlwind is coming..

  6. John, 14 x 14 is still more than an order of magnitude off the mark. Did you also tell the kids that the CN tower is roughly 90 feet tall?

  7. minuteman,
    I agree with you,
    think of world war two.
    No matter how advanced our civilization was, at least 50 millions were killed.
    Humans may be thinking logical creatures that have the power to chose but they have also emotions – even primitive emotions.
    Something will happen again, a plague, a war who knows?
    And it may set us back decades or centuries.
    The dark ages is an excellent example, all the knowledge of the Greeks ( to name one ) was ignored, forgotten.
    Humans are deep inside primitive creatures, that is why they lie, cheat, steal, fight, rape, torture, commit murders and… go to war…(and this is the short list)
    No matter how much knowledge they posess or how high their IQ is humans are deep inside primitive creatures not much different than their ancestors who lived in caves.
    A civilization colapse ( or a partial one ) is very likely… especially with Islam… a cult that is stuck in the seventh century and that has people driven by primitve impulses, not knowledge nor reason.
    I’m a Conservative who believe Darwin is right which gets me in a lot of trouble sometimes.

  8. That man might be crazy but one part of his manifesto makes sense;
    Stop illegal immigrants from having anchor babies so they can stay and have more babies.
    Before calling me crazy consider this,
    I’ve never seen anyone be 100% right about everything nor seen anyone be 100% wrong on everything.
    Have you?…( any of you out there )

  9. I can see the Law and Order script now… radical environmentalists tacitly encourage extremists to take violent action, and they get dragged into court.
    Not likely.

  10. I used to look after lab animals fresh out of uni. Every now and then an abnormal behavoir would show up like they would eat their young but our main worry was infection. Every now and then nature gives a tweak to something. Antibiotics have no guarantee of working as with antivirals. It happens most in overcrowded conditions and it wipes out the colony. We have jets. I don’t worry about it but Ma Nature believes in re-cycling with twists.

  11. Okay, it’s confirmed. I AM a terrible person. Why? Because I agree with some of the stuff the greenie wanted… and I am not telling which.

  12. Re the question of how many square miles a required to fit the worlds population, you could fit the entire worlds population in a cubic mile if you allowed each person a 2x 2 x 6 ft space.
    (6.133 Billion and change would fit.)

  13. Take the current population, roughly 6 billion, and divide it out over all the exposed land (habitable or not) on the earth and you get about 5 acres per person.
    It ain’t much when you think about it.

  14. Take the current population, roughly 6 billion, and divide it out over all the exposed land (habitable or not) on the earth and you get about 5 acres per person.
    Be very glad your 5 acres isn’t sand, snow, rock, or ice.

  15. “Maybe Al Gore’s Convenient Lie should be banned like his wife Tipper tried to do with Rock lyrics back in the 80’s”
    Warren Z
    Good point. For the record, fat Al was sitting right beside Tipper at these rock inquisitions. They tried desperately to link a few teenage suicides to listening to some music.
    For a complete review of this, see the excellent documentary: “Heavy Metal: A Headbangers Journey”.
    ————————————————
    I’m surprized nobody noticed BTJ absent from this thread…Ummm?!…

  16. Let’s truly hope they used lead free bullets.
    Yup, I’m sure they used depleted uranium. Now that would be fitting.

  17. You know who John Galt reminds me of? There used to be a poster on another site who called himself “Samuel Clemens.” Well, Clemens had a wit that you could shave a mule with, the poster Sam Clemens? Well, as I said at the time, quoting the real Sam Clemens, that he was confusing the lightening bug with the lightening. Using a handle like that without irony would be like posting on a physics blog as “Einstein.”
    I think that John Galt has no idea how lame he sounds much of the time, and how his choice of handle just emphasizes his lameness. Once in a while he gets off something sensible, but mostly, just assertions without evidence or argument.

  18. TJ ?
    five acres per person?…..wrong as wrong can be….can’t anybody here use a slide rule anymore ?

  19. “Once in a while he gets off something sensible, but mostly, just assertions without evidence or argument.”
    So, in other words, his chosen name suits him perfectly?
    I’m not sure why you feel the need to make personal attacks on the guy, but if you’re going to do it you should at least make sure that your insults make sense.

  20. John, we’ve already established that your math skills are pretty horrible. If you’re going to make statements like “wrong as wrong can be”, you can at least show your work so that we can point out where you went wrong.
    FYI:
    Earths land mass = 148,940,000 km^2 = 36,803,875,500 acres. Now pull out your slide rule and divide that by 6.7 billion, and see what you get.

  21. “So, in other words, his chosen name suits him perfectly”
    How do you figure that?
    I thought I explained why I was making the “attack,” pretentious handles set a higher bar. It wasn’t personal either, it was an attack on his persona, not his person.

  22. “How do you figure that?”
    Because all that John gault / Ayn Rand ever did was make assertions without evidence or argument. They may have been assertions I agree with, in many cases, but (s)he certainly never presented any evidence.

  23. oh just do it for me alex….
    to quote a famous man…’i have found you an argument….i don’t necessarily have to find you an understanding’…
    i dunno but i find picky picky picky quibblers are hard slogging indeed…especially the ones that completely MISS the point being made…
    so lighten up alex my little droog..

  24. Ooh “droog”, the sci fi reference du jour in the blogosphere. I have always been a big Anthony Burgess fan. Enderby was a bit of priceless genius. But as far as giving “an argument”?
    Where exactly? This is your latest that I can see.
    “five acres per person?…..wrong as wrong can be….can’t anybody here use a slide rule anymore ?”
    An “argument” might have shown Alex where he was wrong. Maybe that post is in the queue or something. And don’t you think a slide rule is a little bit of overkill for an arithmetic problem involving only division?
    Instead, what it looks like is the standard response of the liberal: “Reject first, ask rhetorical questions later.”

  25. “I believe that any man made solution to population control will be worse than the problem.”
    Exactly!

  26. Erik Larsen at 5:21pm wrote: “…but for some people to write that they hope he gets shot – it’s a bit out of bounds.”
    Erik, the guy walked in to an office building with kids in it armed and dangerous. With both guns and bombs. I should be concerned for -his- welfare? Are you f-ing kidding me?
    Not only should he get shot, he should have got shot by one of his intended victims as soon as he strolled through the door and yelled whatever lame-ass B-movie crap he yelled. Crazed gunman tries to take hostage, hostage shoots him in the head BANG. Job well done, shame about the wallpaper.
    SWAT shooting him is second best, he shouldn’t have been allowed to live that long. But we live in a dissipated age where people aren’t allowed to think for themselves, much less protect themselves so I’ll take what I can get.
    Fair’s fair, Erik. They shoot at us, we’re damn well allowed to shoot back.

  27. No, John, I didn’t miss your “point”, I just thought it was too dumb to comment on. Here, I’ll pretend to be you for a second:
    If you took every Muslim in the world, and gave him a 1 foot by 1 foot piece of land to stand on, they’d only take up 56 square miles! Therefore clearly Islamic Extremism can’t possibly be a problem, right?
    If you think that you can dismiss a problem just by tossing an equation at it, you’re too silly to take seriously. The fact that you can’t even do the math correctly only makes the situation even funnier.

  28. Right Honourable Terry Tory
    Funny that the media in the 80s made it seem like it was the Republicans who were doing the rock-lyrics-witch-hunt thing.
    Funny because Gore and wife have never been republicans.
    I guess the media was simply lying, as it always does…
    nothing to see…

  29. Erik Larsen prescribes “anti-psychotics”. Fair enough. Can we be certain that Mr Lee would have taken them? Would have kept taking them? How often do we hear of crimes committed by those who either refused medication (a “right” supported by most civil liberties groups) or simply stopped taking them. Perhaps doctors could have helped Mr Lee; perhaps he would have allowed them to help him. The protection of the wider community, however, must be a higher consideration for the authorities.

  30. “The fact that you can’t even do the math correctly only makes the situation even funnier.”
    What is doubly funny is that these are the guys who think a spelling mistake invalidates your opinion.

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