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      2. “Carney is making sure of it. The guy is a mental cripple and flailing around like a shorted out robot.”

        Or, he’s a committed schwabian arsehole who sees himself as the saviour of the new globalist order. In which case, his flailing is The Plan.

        1. oh, but Marmot informs us that Carney is not an idiot.
          Also, see below for more Marmot comments.
          Killer comments.

  2. Utter rubbish. The Canadian Automobile manufacturers Association should do exactly what all American multinational corporations have done … whore yourself out to the ChiComs in … hope … of accessing their Billion man marketplace.

    Stop complaining and start whoring … like your PM is doing. Hope. Maybe. Sure. Someday.

  3. Honestly, do you think even 0.1% of Canadians realize how close Canada’s economy is to be completely devastated? Of course, 95%+ will blame Orange Man, because their pride and arrogance prevents them from seeing the light.

    1. If Trump went ahead with 100% tariffs against all Canadian goods, the Canadian economy would indeed be devastated.

      But so would the American economy. Not nearly so much as Canada, but enough to induce a serious recession and fuel inflation. Republican congressmen, who are facing midterm elections, would panic. The American public would be furious at this completely unnecessarily economic slowdown and be looking to take it out on these congressmen. Congress might then take steps to greatly limit the president’s abillity to impose tariffs in order to contain the damage. Trump would try to prevent such a move, but even if a third of GOP politicians were on board he would not be able to stop it.

      For this reason, I doubt Trump is going to go ahead with this. Even he can see how the dominoes might fall.

      1. The American public would indeed be mad at a pointless trade war.

        But the American public would not consider keeping Canada out of the continent as pointless. They will support Trump in this.

        1. I think you mean “China out of the continent”.

          Currently, US trade with China is five times greater than Canada’s trade with China. China’s already here. This trade deal is innocuous, and will make little difference to those numbers.

          2. Not really. As I said, the US’s trade with China is five times greater in value than Canada’s trade with China.

            And given that Trump will be visiting China in April, with freeing up trade expected to be a main focus, that ratio may well go up.

          3. “US trade five times greater than Canada’s”….except the US economy is over 13 times the size of Canada’s.

      2. Wait. You’re the guy who said Trump’s tariffs imposed on ‘Liberation Day’, April 2, 2025 were gonna CRASH the US economy … because you and your ilk dumped the US Stock market in the most idiotic sell-off in Market history.

        But … you’re gonna be right this time. OMG. You’re too funny.

        1. On Liberation Day, Trump declared blanket tariffs of 25% on all goods from Canada and Mexico that would have been disastrous for all. But he soon backed down, and when the smoke cleared (after a bewildering series of announcements), most USMCA-compliant goods were exempt from tariffs. The exceptions were lumber, steel, aluminium, autos and auto parts (value added only), and some energy products (but only at 10%). The final result was far less total tariffs.

          This can be seen by the fact the tariffs have brought in far less total revenue to the US government than originally projected.

          Also, I don’t have an ilk. I have a moose, a few deer, no ilk.

          1. Marmot, it appears you have a misunderstanding of how Trump uses tariffs as a negotiating tool. It’s a simple carrot & stick approach with the tariffs being ‘the stick’. If a country comes to the table and works out an acceptable deal, the stick is not used. So in the cases where you think he ‘backed down’, he didn’t; he just didn’t use ‘the stick’ because it was no longer needed after he negotiated a deal acceptable to the US.

        2. “But … you’re gonna be right this time. OMG. You’re too funny.”

          Not the word I would have used.

          1. Tariffs of 100% on all goods exported from Canada into the US would cost US$400 billion. The amount of tariffs currently collected by the US on goods from all countries in the world is about US$300 billion. So this is a massive increase that would about double that. That’s a tax the American consumer has to ultimately pay.

            That is going to slow down the economy and raise prices. I can recommend a book on economics if you don’t believe me.

            https://www.amazon.ca/Basic-Economics-Thomas-Sowell/dp/0465060730

          2. Your $400 billion estimation misses one important factor, namely Canadian manufacturers, suppliers and exporters reducing prices to maintain US market share.*

            They produce or handle goods that become valueless if they just sit in a warehouse. It’s best if they go to a tradiational market, even at a lower price.

            Carney’s not going to find new markets for them in the short and probably not even in the long term.

            *That’s what happened during Trump’s first term when he imposed high tariffs on Chinese goods.

          3. And such tariffs would completely destroy the Canadian economy. Who blinks first? Pretty evident.

      3. “If Trump went ahead with 100% tariffs against all Canadian goods, the Canadian economy would indeed be devastated.”

        Most certainly, yes.

        “But so would the American economy. Not nearly so much as Canada, but enough to induce a serious recession and fuel inflation.”

        NO. Not even close.

        Inconveniencing half a dozen US border states in various ways would come nowhere near causing a “serious recession”, especially since Canada would fold *within a week* and come back to the table, hat in hand, BEGGING for another chance. Mark Carney would be turfed so fast his head would spin.

        It’s all well and good to preen, posture and chant “Elbows Up!” and “We will fight Trump!” until you run out of gas two days later, and out of produce four days later. Sudden food, gasoline and service shortages have a way of grabbing the public’s attention really quickly.

        Canada has ZERO CHANCE of winning this. * ZERO *.

        Your TDS-inspired fantasizing about issues that you have proven yourself incapable of comprehending will change nothing.

        1. What would happen is that a 100% tax on Canada imports would almost certainly cause Congress to step in and shut down Trump’s tarrifs. Even Republicans would have had enough. Unlike you, they are not completely insane. They would not see the use in destroying two countries because Trump didn’t like Carney’s Davos speech.

          1. SDA’s Supremo Seer has divined the future; how Congress will act, how the US economy will perform, how Trump’s MAGA base will abandon him, not to mention Trump’s declining health and mental acuity.

            Boy, his uncanny talent means he has all the bases covered, as far as the as the US is concerned at least.

          2. It’s a nice coherent vision, really. He should make it into a novel. “Tom Swift and His Tariff Triumph”, or whatever. I bet the CBC would dramatise it.

          3. “What would happen is that a 100% tax on Canada imports would almost certainly cause Congress to step in and shut down Trump’s tarrifs. Even Republicans would have had enough. ”

            More TDS fantasy, based on absolutely nothing but your own delusions.

      4. Ehem…
        What percentage of the U.S. economy is made up by trade with Canada?
        What percentage of the Canadian economy is made up by with the U.S.?
        *Don’t peek and try to answer on your own first, but the answers are below:

        a. 3-5%
        b. 73-76%

        It’s integrated supply chains that is the real issue.

  5. I agree with what Secretary Bessent is saying, (and it was very good to hear what he said a few days ago regarding AB separating too)
    Premier Ford doesn’t look very comfortable in the above video… didn’t he support the election of Marx Carnage? It looks like Premier Ford is getting a hard lesson in what not to say during an election, as well as what it means to “stand on principles” … that it really does matter who is PM.

    If I lived in eastern Canada, I’d be very concerned with the federal governments’s idiocy on each and every subject matter it has touched upon in this past decade. It seems as if they’ve been very consistent in this matter, like it was all in the plan… It might even force me to switch sides. You’d think that after a decade of malfeasance, the easterners would understand what’s going on in Ottawa.

    Would Canadians really like to drive Chinese built vehicles? Has anyone seen what happens when one crashes into another vehicle? Do Canadians want Ford, GM, Stellantis to fail?
    It seems they haven’t thought this one through. Is there something in the water?

    I doubt the Chinese are going to sue me when I start referring to their vehicles as “chinese pintos” … boom!!

    1. Bessent is light years ahead of a dolt like Carney. As for China EV’s, anybody who buys one of those over produced pieces of crap deserve to die in a ditch during a snow storm.

      “In China, you can buy a heavily discounted “used” electric car that has never, in fact, been used. Chinese automakers, desperate to meet their sales targets in a bitterly competitive market, sell cars to dealerships, which register them as “sold,” even though no actual customer has bought them. Dealers, stuck with officially sold cars, then offload them as “used,” often at low prices. The practice has become so prevalent that the Chinese Communist Party is trying to stop it. Its main newspaper, The People’s Daily, complained earlier this year that this sales-inflating tactic “disrupts normal market order,” and criticized companies for their “data worship.”

      This sign of serious problems in China’s electric-vehicle industry may come as a surprise to many Americans. The Chinese electric car has become a symbol of the country’s seemingly unstoppable rise on the world stage. Many observers point to their growing popularity as evidence that China is winning the race to dominate new technologies. But in China, these electric cars represent something entirely different: the profound threats that Beijing’s meddling in markets poses to both China and the world.”

      The Atlantic, Nov 11, 2025

    2. Did you know that Bessent is gay? because the democrats want you to know that they think that’s the most important thing about him, and their caricature of republicans and/or conservatives should be rejecting him based on that fact.

      3. Everyone knows that. In fact Governor Shithead Newsom’s staff is generating openly homophobic material about Bessent. What are the chances any conservative politician could get away with anything even bordering on homophobia?

      4. I had no idea! I thought he was a pedo. Can’t keep these politicians straight. Wait, let me rephrase that…

  8. The China deal is an excellent one for Canada, and I hope Carney does not back down a centimetre.

    It’s quite modest. 49,000 Chinese EVs a year is only 3% of the total Canadian vehicle market, and those cars might not even sell. Meanwhile, western farmers can sell their produce to China unfettered by tariffs.

    Should Carney back down, Canada will have ceded its sovereignty to the US, which may now dictate what international deals Canada may enter into. And that would only be the beginning of Trump’s demands. Canada would be a vassal state.

    1. Canada is becoming a vassal state to the wrong hard power, you idiot.
      And you recently stated that carney is not an idiot, and you were correct.
      He is a useful idiot, like you.
      Oh, but, soft middle powers will navigate the middle.
      That translates to rightly aligning with the ascendent hard power. You know, the one we share a large border with, the one that shares a common, albeit threatened culture with, and, the one that is not a ruthless belt and road belligerent culture that bought the likes of trudeaus, cretiens and carneys.
      In short, piss off marmot.

      1. First, knock off the insults.

        Second, if Canada is becoming a vassal state to China then so is the United States, which does five times the trade with China than Canada does. Further, Trump is due to visit China in April, with loosening up trade restrictions expected to be a main focus.

        1. Nice try. You say that the US does five times the trade with China than Canada does. But you don’t seem to be able to understand that the US economy is 12 times that of Canada….meaning that the U.S. trade with China is much less than Canada…..and is shrinking.

          1. Well you can mangle the numbers however you want. The point is that Trump can’t throttle trade between China and Canada without looking like a #1 prime hypocrite.

            But Trump doesn’t give a crap about trade between Canada and China anyway. That’s just an excuse. He’s threatening 100% tariffs against Canada because Carney said some mean things in Davos (even though he never mentioned either the US or Trump explicitly).

          2. Ummmmm, try 14 times larger. Used to be 10, then 12, now 14. Bonus points if you can predict the next number in that series. The US is growing at 5%, Canada 0%.

            Bonus round, The US used to have 10 times the population, and 10 times the economy, which made us quite equal in living standards. Now it has 9 times the population and 14 times the economy so our living standards have fallen by ______?

        3. I try to knock off five insults before breakfast. Thanks for helping me meet my quota, jackass!

        4. “Well you can mangle the numbers however you want. The point is that Trump can’t throttle trade between China and Canada without looking like a #1 prime hypocrite.”

          And that would bother him so much (because he really, REALLY worries about what people like you think of him) that he would immediately reverse his decision and apologize. And then resign (in disgrace, of course). And then urge all his supporters to vote for Gavin Newsome for President. Right? Is that your fantasy today…something like that?

        1. I warned everyone that I will eventually p them o.
          Look at it this way: you will never have to woo her; she has a suitable partner. I’m giving you an opportunity to feel relief (dodged a bullet like that one, huh?) and give thanks to a just and loving God that you didn’t wind up with…that.
          Works equally for women too — one look at her partner and one should express deep relief and gratitude that one did not wind up hitched to such a “male” specimen. Yeah, he’s definitely one that I would have made cry back in my younger days, just for the sport of it.
          Makes one thankful for what one has.
          I’m a paragon of kindness, really.

          1. “Yeah, he’s definitely one that I would have made cry back in my younger days, just for the sport of it. <— LOL!
            Makes one thankful for what one has.
            I’m a paragon of kindness, really."

            Never change, jane…you're awesome… 🙂

        2. “UJ, please never do that again. That woman reduced my sex drive by 50%.”

          These people are a perfect example of why I want the Americans to close the Canada-US border *just for one week*.

          Nothing in…nothing out.

          I would have said 30 days but that would collapse our economy completely. I just want all the smug, self-righteous but totally ignorant “elbows up!” morons who keep pushing this delusional fantasy to get a little taste of reality…just enough to jolt them back into the real world.

          (I know, I know…but I can dream, right?..)

    4. according to sources…
      -2025 Sales Decline: After a strong 2024, EV sales in Canada plummeted, falling by 32% in the first three quarters of 2025. As a share of new vehicle sales, ZEVs dropped from 18% in December 2024 to under 9% in 2025, marking a significant reversal.

      Just like boats….the two best days of ownership…..the day you buy it….and the day you sell it

  9. Canadian automakers to pay just shy of a billion dollars annually to the Chinese annually for their spymobiles. (1:30 in video)

  10. What’s with all that french crap on the Ontario propaganda signs? Is it another bullshit bilingual shithole?

  11. L – Ontario, an economy soon to be offered a choice: hospice, palliative or M.A.I.D. ?
    Ontario voters too bamboozled, to realize their vote in April 2025, was a consent for, see above.

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