Misunderstanding Tucker Carlson

Here is an interesting discussion between two gentlemen who I generally respect and watch often. They’re talking about Tucker Carlson’s recent missives from Russia. While they make a few good points, I believe they mostly have misunderstood why Carlson is publishing the videos he has. Here are a few comments on this video that much more resonate with me:

The left/right divide is simply not the crux of the struggle in the West. It’s elitism vs populism.

Pointing out the cleanliness and safety of Moscow’s underground works even better for Western Europe. Until quite recently we had that. Most people who live today in Paris, Berlin, Rome etc. can remember a time when public spaces where clean and safe. Then politics moved dramatically to the left and we have a world in which the lives of ordinary people has become highly susceptible to crime, financially precarious and public spaces look like shit. There is a disconnect between the upper echelons of politics and ordinary people. If it goes on for too long, the consequences could be grave indeed. The majority of people are utterly disappointed with politicians, if that doesn’t change over the next couple of years through democratic change at the top, people will indeed question the entire political system.

It’s not complicated. Our cities are crumbling while our leaders take care of other countries. We grew up being told Moscow was a shit hole. He’s using it for an example of how we’ve been lied to. Also, it shows by comparison how bad cities are. He’s not saying overall Russia is great. He’s simply highlighting how far we’ve slipped. Not complicated.

What do you think?

Update: Related:

h/t ‘richfisher’

106 Replies to “Misunderstanding Tucker Carlson”

  1. In the summer of 21 I was in the village near here, ran into a friend of 50+ years, we were discussing KK (kovid Krap), when I mentioned China. My friend went into a negative rant about “filthy China”, so I pulled out my phone and showed him China. The look on his face was priceless. Yup, the news media is all lies all the time. But some, even in here never learn, rite COLON and unDORK. Several people have gone to Russia, and showed the same thing as T Carlson.

      1. “Ever see the smog in Beijing?”

        Yeah, it’s like Mexico City and a few others where they sometimes have ‘advisories’ not to go outside.

        Probably also the reason that Chinese-Canadians took so readily to the mask mandates here during COVID…they were already used to wearing them.

      2. Joke,
        No smog when I was there, but I did see your antisemitic post in here a few years ago.
        But I’v seen the SMOG in LA , Denver , and good old TO

        1. You’ve got the wrong guy, GYM. I publish the “Antisemitic Post”. And your subscription’s overdue.

  2. Robert…

    I totally agree with you…I’m pretty sure if Tucker saw the insanity we see here in not only the LEFT COAST but pretty much anywhere nowadays of tent cities piled with refuse, drugs, rampant crime with mayors openly pushing racist & globalist policies while increasing Costs on all amenities.
    Chow, Sohi, GoneDYKE – good Cdn Examples thereof.

    Besides Family there are few folks that I still trust, Tucker, Rubin, Viva are among a small number among those I Do…At this point, theres few if any politicians or Snivel Servants among that crowd. Danielle Smith nothwithstanding.

    The Western World has gone to hell in a handbasket…99% of it on purpose & instigated by some very evil shit within our various political systems & shielded by a Global Main Stream Media that deserves to f’ing well HUNG en Masse.

    1. Steakman, your last sentence says what many of us know and feel. I however would prefer to see them well hanged.

    2. If we take Mike Benz at his word, and the U.S. Military Industrial Complex, incl. the CIA, has turned its forces inward on the American people, then it doesn’t take a genius to realize why all the race talk and trans talk is peaking 11 on a 1 – 10 scale. Simply put, if everyone is endlessly focused on that, then few are focused on what the elite establishment are up to.

      It’s beyond sad/pathetic to realize in 2024 that the aims of the Communist Chinese Party seem to be very much in line with those of the U.S. Deep State elites.

      1. John Brennan was a confirmed communist in his younger days and clearly never evolved his political thinking except to mask it while he advanced into ever more powerful positions.

      2. Let me add, Robert … that the young people today are, well, rather distracted by their iPhones and the internet. Few believe in or have any hope for “The American Dream” let alone can afford to reproduce. They are all congenitally distracted and know a lot about nothing and very little about things that truly matter. The generations coming up behind us are the “most likely to believe whatever they’re told by – authorities” than any other before them. It’s almost as if that’s going exactly according so some truly EVIL master plan to eliminate capitalism, and Western FREEDOM. When all hope is replaced, nay … placed in a “benevolent” government that promises to save your life and give you all you need to survive … Nations are doomed. Culture is doomed. Society is doomed.

        And as Tucker thematically lectures … there are those who believe there is a God, and those who believe themselves to be god. It’s the latter who are most likely to accept their benevolent government as a god … who will save us all from COVID … and hell … even Joe Biden will save us all from Cancer (how’s that coming along, Joe?)

      3. “The national security state is the main driver of censorship and election interference in the United States.” Sundance at The Conservative Tree house has been analyzing and describing this in detail for a long time (it’s “the fourth branch of government”). He says a lot of other important things. Has astonishing insight. And contacts.

  3. remembering years of pictures of the USSR as a kid. perpetual gloom and snow , always the Kremlin leaders perched on a platform gloomy countenances , women sweeping the streets with corn brooms

    i was shocked to find that the climate most similar to moscow , was Calgary . not that its wonderful , but its not knee deep in snow all year round .

  4. We moved from a medium sized Canadian city to a rural setting and then from Canada altogether to a small Wisconsin town because it is NOT a shithole. Clean, peaceful and quiet. So far. When they throw out all the old rules, try to take away both freedom and any sense of responsibility, things go downhill very quickly.

  5. Well I think that you . .. . . you servants . . . . should just shut up and do as your betters tell you. They are far smarter than you as shown by the fact that they own so much and you own so little. They are far better than you as shown by the fact that they have their own executive jets and you own a filthy, garbage spewing, climate destroying car or truck. They are far wiser than you as shown by the fact that you are paying them to rob you.

    You should just shut up and let them get on with ruining your life and those of your pitiful families. DO as you’re told. (sarc “off”)

  6. Elites vs The People

    That is exactly what Tucker is exposing. He knows the elites are rotten and they are lying to us. Case in point is the the new Rasmussen study of people who 1) Live in Cities; 2) Make over $150,000 a year and 3) Went to elite universities – Harvard, MIT , Stanford etc. Read it for yourself – just don’t eat beforehand.

    https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Them-vs-Us_CTUP-Rasmussen-Study-FINAL.pdf

    Elites believe the following – some of the questions:

    55% said Americans have too much freedom
    89% said American should have their gas, meat and electricity rationed to “fight climate change”
    85% – 90% said they had a high opinion of Lawyers, Congress, Union Leaders and Journalists
    84% approve of Joe Biden

    These elites are bat shit crazy. We know this and Tucker exposes these lunatics. Best $72.00 my wife and I spent subscribing to his videos. We watch every night during dinner. Just finished the Tucker, Danielle Smith, Jordan Peterson, Conrad Black videos from Alberta.

    As an aside I went to the same prep school as Tucker – St. George’s in Rhode island. He married the headmaster’s daughter and his kids went there also. I believe.

  7. I think it’s just appearances + can be dangerous, and I’ll explain a bit:

    I grew up in E Europe, full Communism. TV was constantly showing how great Communism is (young smiling gorgeous-looking, tractors in the field, smiling workers in factories, grocery stores full of stuff) vs how bad Capitalism is (homeless in the streets, guns, fat old guys smoking cigars, menacing rockets and nuclear mushrooms). It was very easy to grow up fully indoctrinated.
    Same in this case: oh it’s so nice&clean in Moscow, Beijing, Pyongyang. Large spaces, flowers, smiling people. Why can’t we have here the same? Conclusion drawn by most would be that we don’t have enough Marxism, we don’t have gov control of every single aspect of people’s lives.
    Tucker is a smart guy, he may have the reasoning you describe, however the great majority of population in N America is not that smart + has been groomed to think different (neo/eco-Marxism, Islam=religion of peace, DEI, BLM).

    1. But the fact is San Francisco is a shithole. NYC is a shithole. London is a shithole. Paris is a shithole.

      Moscow? Not so much.

      1. Even if we were to ignore the fact that any place not filled with orcs is by default better than any place filled with orcs, those places would still be orders of magnitude better than Moscow.

    2. You may have missed it but the USSR is gone and the West has embraced Cultural Marxism. I doubt we’ve totally changed places but things have definitely changed. I don’t know what’s going on in Russia but I can see what’s going on here and it isn’t good.

      1. Making decisions… limited info…
        As a world leader, how would you take seeing our Canadian Parliament give a standing ovation to a confirmed Nazi?
        It’s not rocket science.
        Seeing it on TV…so it must be true.
        Running over your own citizens with horses… seen it on TV… so it must be true.

        Now how would you deal with people like our current patch of politicians?

      2. 100% ^^

        Who gives a crap about Russia much less the overt corruption of Ukraine. Russia will look after itself, despite the west.

        People need to focus on our own corrupt Oligarcs actively calling us the enemy and the destruction of our freedoms and liberties first before we worry about Russia or anywhere else.

        Only the simplest of sheeple can’t see the obvious and porposeful desintigration of our society to serve the few with a new slave class in a technocratic neo-feudal system.

    3. DanC
      I went to China to see for myself, and hardly saw and face masks, place was neat and clean, fewer surveillance cameras than over here. Yes they are communist, but the fact remains we have been fed bullshit about China, Russia, and damn near every other country the CIA whats you to hate.

      1. Yup, i go there on work every year and the difference between 15yrs ago and now is amazing. Air is cleaner, streets were always clean but cleaner now. Manicured hedges , 4 lane highways, beautiful coal fired power stations, smiling people and u are safer walking the streets alone there than any major city in the western world. Also, no BLM or Gay Pride marches and zero chance of a terrorist attack.

        1. Depends on where you go. Just because you ‘have gone to China’ doesn’t mean you have gone to ALL of China….just the places they want you to see.

  8. I would say “Misunderstanding Russia”. Is a country its people or its government?

    I travelled to Russia many times from 2004 through 2007 and had business interests there worth several million dollars. Always got paid. Always very well treated. The people in Russia were fantastic. Complex, conflicted, not quick to complain about their government, but always heavy in the area of hospitality. That was my experience.

    I could never figure out the driving rules, however. How people could park on the sidewalk and then complain that someone else had blocked them in. Or someone deciding to make a U-turn in the middle of the road, only to get t-boned and then exiting their vehicle with their arms in the air wondering how on earth someone could crash into them during such a maneuver. Or the rotted out Ladas that suddenly became taxi drivers when you raised your hand near the roadway. Or the so-called taxi drivers at the airport who weren’t interested in driving you to your hotel. Or why rock stars needed an entourage of men with automatic weapons at the hotel.

    But the restaurants in Moscow had the highest quality food. Raw oysters from Canada, Champagne from France, Argentinian beef, a “book” disguised as a wine list.

    Outside of Moscow the people were even more friendly. A lot poorer maybe, but friendly. I would always say there were two types of Russians. Those who followed the rules and those who knew how to get around them. I always found the latter to be more interesting.

  9. “Those who followed the rules and those who knew how to get around them. I always found the latter to be more interesting.”

    Could be the same everywhere. I describe the the situation in America especially immigration and crime as the rules will only be enforced on those willing to follow them.

  10. From my perspective this is same as it ever was. Swords and shields. Push and pull. Jiu jitsu. Pendulums swing. Encourage social media until it starts working against your goals? Can they really keep a lid on a boiling pot, however? We’ll see.

  11. Konstantin Kisin uses a great phrase – “woke right”, with which he identifies the same destructive tendency toward cultural self-hatred as seen in the woke left, along with the sad and ridiculous inclination to identify with diabolical entities simply because those coincidentally oppose our own useless and vile “elites”. Freedom rebels for Putin is as laughably mentalist as trans gays for Palestine. The “wokeness” is, of course, the same self-delusion that one’s appreciation of special conspiracy theories sets one above all the “NPCs” asleep in normie land.

    I have a lower opinion of Tucker Carlson than Kisin does. Obviously I can’t read minds, but Carlson strikes me as a disingenuous and cynical snake oil salesman who has identified a gullible niche to exploit (see also Russel Brand). It’s for clicks and the clicks are for money. With plenty of self puffery in the process.

    The lockdowns (and much besides) definitely should have made us mad in the American sense (angry) but some bad / greedy players are seeking to use that to make us mad in the English sense (insane).

    1. “I have a lower opinion of Tucker Carlson than Kisin does. Obviously I can’t read minds, but Carlson strikes me as a disingenuous and cynical snake oil salesman who has identified a gullible niche to exploit (see also Russel Brand).

      I like what he has to say. I think there is something slightly ‘off’ about him, though…his mannerisms, facial expressions and tendency to burst out laughing sometimes strike me as indications of some sort of mental issue.

      (I could be wrong…I’m not a doctor)

      “It’s for clicks and the clicks are for money. With plenty of self puffery in the process.”

      As for the money, he doesn’t need it. He comes from a wealthy family to start with, and has done pretty well for himself by the looks of things. The ego, possibly.

    2. pjf
      There’s that self righteous BULLSHIT , trying judge according to your feelz.
      Tucker is coming along just fine, you not so much!

      NME666

    3. Yeah, don’t believe your lying eyes, trust your sixth sense about Tucker Carlson.
      Please don’t start with the “madness” nonsense, it’s too much along the lines of “nothing to see here” and “conspiracy theories”.

      1. Yeah, don’t believe your lying eyes, trust your sixth sense about Tucker Carlson.

        It also works great for journalists, climate scientists and used car salesmen.

        1. Sometimes they have their moments, but they’re nearly universally blinded by russian imperial pretenses and thus an enemy of civilization nevertheless. Such was Navalny for example, a courageous man, an enemy of Pootin, nevertheless infected with a vision of russian empire and as such an enemy.

  12. Concerning Tucker’s interview of Mike Benz:

    I sent it to a friend with a recommendation that he WATCH it … three times. Yes, it is that astonishing. In addition to multiple views it might not be a bad idea to make notes. At one point Tucker says that he may need a nap after the interview. For me the most fascinating thing was the newly emergent definition of democracy (sic).

    1. Agreed. That interview where Tucker said almost nothing was not only plausible but justification for tearing down the entire US leviathan state, restoring isolationism, and jailing millions of institutionally legitimized tyrants.

      1. It scared/ shocked the shit out of me. It’s a subtle shift, to go from blaming this regime or that regime to putting the blame on a seven decade effort by unelected government agencies.
        I feel stupid that I was even surprised, but there it is. I wonder if Trump knew what he was walking into. I doubt he did.
        We need to look at everything that’s happened in the world since WW2 in this context and see the world as it is, not as we have been taught.

        1. The US and by extension Canada and the free world are defacto under military rule.
          The US intelligence and miltary services have turned the dirty tricks the military used to use on other countries to promote freedom and end communism, inwards and are using it to end what we all thought was democracy here.
          Our elite no longer believe Democracy is freedom of the people. They have created a cyber/information war on their own people to empower what they have labelled “democratic instituitions” ie STATE.
          Our state has grown so large it is now a Frankenstein roaming the village and tearing the heads off of anybody that points at it.
          Everything is a weapon.
          The last three days of Real Coffee w/ Scott Adams has been incredibly enlightening.
          I can not recommend the Mike Benz interview enough.

          1. The last three days of Real Coffee w/ Scott Adams has been incredibly enlightening.

            I was disappointed that he forgot (or chose not to mention) to beware the “documentary effect”.
            https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1622242684617490433

            He talks about it from time to time, pointing out how a piece that is well presented entirely on its own terms and without challenge is maximally persuasive. So you can be absolutely convinced one week that the CIA killed JFK, and the next week that Oswald was a lone shooter trained by the Russians (OMG, them again).

            I should add that I recommend anyone to watch the Benz piece if at all possible; it’s very interesting but should be taken with a pinch of salt. A book-selling sized pinch.

  13. I don’t know if it’s intentional, but Tucker’s visit to a Russian grocery store very much evokes memories of Gorbachev’s visit to an American grocery store, where he was stunned by the variety, quantity and price of goods available to the working class.

    1. Tuckers visit to a Russian supermarket is just one of a couple I have seen. The other two showed the same thing in different stores.

  14. Putin has his opponent jailed, where he dies. Biden et al attack their opponent in every way possible. They are trying to derail, bankrupt or jail DJT where he would no doubt die especially if stripped of Secret Service protection. Meanwhile major US cities are going to hell in a handbasket with crime, homelessness and effects of illegal immigration. I don’t know about Russia but are things better or worse in the USA?

    1. Thomas
      Saw a video, of a meeting between an intel guy (CIA or MI6) were the Russian party was trying to secure funds to start a revolution , that Russian may have been the jailed clown, or one of his associates.
      Can’t verify if the video was real , or propaganda.

      1. Video is real and has been around a long time. It is a close associate of Navalny asking for cash in order to start a colour revolution in Russia.

        1. ^^^^ LOL it is so easy to be a russian propagandist at SDA, DCH does not even have to produce propaganda, as the gullible will shovel it themselves and all the propagandist has to say, even to the most naïve nonsense is “yes it is real” and they will believe it.

    2. Thomas

      You said “I don’t know about Russia but are things better or worse in the USA?”

      That’s an interesting question.

      I haven’t been to Russia, but have a number of friends who were born there, went to school there, did their army time, and eventually emigrated to Canada. None of them want to go back, even now.

      I’ll also note there doesn’t seem to be a rush of people wanting to emigrate to Russia

      Life expectancy in years: both sexes females males
      Canada 83 85 81
      United States 80 82 77
      Russia 75 79. 69.

      It’s an interesting country. I know people who travelled on the Trans Siberian Railway. I always wanted to make that trip, but never got around to it.

      1. From Ukrainian, Russian & other emigres I know, one of the reasons they’re not going back is that their kids were born, or grew up here, and some have grandchildren. Also, the country you left is no longer the same. Everything’s moved on.
        Can you imagine leaving Canada 50 years ago and moving back to what it is now?

      2. I’m sure you’re right. I just don’t opine a lot on things with which I have no experience. I understand that the life expectancy for males is considerably lower due to excess alcohol consumption. Still I’ve never been there and don’t expect to ever go.

        1. Thomas
          That’s an interesting hypothesis. Which begs the question why is there so much excess alcohol consumption?

  15. Better Living through Censorship.
    You will eat bugs, and live in ignorance, and we will tell you it is NIrvana. You will believe us, because you are an over-medicated and intoxicated moron.

  16. I just watched the video. I agree with Robert: these guys pretty much didn’t take a position for or against Carlson or his interview. Yes, some good points were brought up….but no, they didn’t come to any definitive conclusions.

    The phrase “a politician’s answer” pretty much summed it up, I think. The whole thing seemed like an effort to discuss something without really discussing it (if that makes any sense). Clickbait, perhaps? They just love the sound of their own voices? Obviously they are both intelligent and well informed, which makes the whole thing even more puzzling…

    1. So social media was handy when it was undermining people and places we don’t like but when it started to threaten the swamp, it had to be reined in. It took them an hour to explain that. Tucker’s ability to be astounded by the obvious is a little weird.

      1. “Tucker’s ability to be astounded by the obvious is a little weird.”

        Isn’t it? His facial expressions alone are both amusing and confusing…

      2. “So social media was handy when it was undermining people and places we don’t like but when it started to threaten the swamp, it had to be reined in”

        No.
        Please listen to Mike Benz’s explanation.

          1. Social media never threatened the swamp as you say, social media is the swamp.

            “The national security state is the main driver of censorship and election interference in the United States.”

            The shortest most precise explanation is in the Mike Benz interview.
            Closest thing to TV guide version I’ve found.

          2. People using social media to tell the truth about things like the plandemic, the vaccines, January 6th, Russiagate, election fraud etc. now threatens it. That can’t be tolerated. Therefore free speech which was encouraged elsewhere when it suited the deep state must now be curtailed. My comprehension is fine.

  17. Tucker’s not the first Westerner to be amazed at Moscow’s subway. I watched a video a while back wherein a visiting New Yorker couldn’t get over the absence of bums, druggies, graffiti, etc. There’s a YouTuber “Different Russia” who lives in a town outside Moscow. From what she says, they do have those problems, but they’re not tolerated either by the cops or the local population.

    1. I was there a couple years ago and found Montreal’s Metro to be very clean and orderly. Funny thing though, in an officially bilingual nation, the announcements and signage were in French only. As for NYC, the cops and public get in trouble for noticing the problem let alone doing anything about it.

  18. “We grew up being told Moscow was a shit hole. ”

    It still is, and will always be, and it also a Potemkin village orders of magnitude more prosperous than the rest of russia (sans St Petersburg another Potemkin village). There is a reason the horde looted every toilet and washing machine it could get its filthy paws on.

    1. It still is, and will always be, and it also a Potemkin village . . .

      Moscow is no more or less of a shit hole with a facade than any other European major city. It has grand areas and poor areas and downright scumbag areas. It still suffers from the decades of grim communism (to be fair, much of Western Europe suffered from communist architects and planners) but it has the enormous benefit of not being overun by hostile third worlders.

      Russia is well covered by Google Street View so anyone here can go and check its visual contrasts themselves.

      1. “…but it has the enormous benefit of not being overun by hostile third worlders.”

        It does not have that. At least 1.5 million followers of religion of peace reside in Moscow. It is the largest mooselimb city in Europe (if we use the geographic not civilizational definition of the word “Europe”). Besides, when your default is orcs, who needs turd worlders?

        Of course seasonal migrants from Stans and Caucasus was another story, these have stopped coming since the word got out that they were routinely being conscripted to orc forces and sent to meatgrinder in Ukraine.

    2. Natasha’s adventures on YouTube documents the glorious achievements of Russia in her part of Russia, the Far East. Like failure to control yearly floodwaters. Even some large cities, like Yekatarinburg, have undrinkable water supplies. And salaries are apparently very low there as well.

      They have made the 2 largest cities showplaces. Others seem to be starved of investment.

  19. Nazi Germany had fantastic highways and the Berlin Subway was spotless. But, I wouldn’t have moved there.

      1. Actually, apparently that, too, was propaganda. Both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy ran into severe economic issues that caused Italy to jump on the Nazi bandwagon and strike in East Africa, ostensibly for “Lebensraum” for Italian colonists, similar to Libya. The Nazis were suffering serious problems in the late 1930s with energy production and the trains often weren’t merely late, but often simply never turned up, due to shortages of coal, and other critical resources. Hence Barbarossa, as the natural continuation of the war in Poland.

        1. In my brief time in Italy long ago, I was told that Mussolini had not exactly made the trains run on time. Until his time the Italian rail system regarded all timetables as advisory only; trains were to get there as they got there, making sure they got every passenger. Mussolini decided that the international express trains which ran through the borders should henceforth run strictly according to timetable, although purely domestic services stayed as they were. This impressed the neighbouring foreigners without affecting the Italian way of life. It was indeed one of Mussolini’s better and more successful policies, although that’s not really an impressive standard, is it?

  20. Trump is right, all this, as he puts it “Russia Russia Russia” is a diversion.
    You all are falling for it too.

    Listen to the Mike Benz interview I beg you.
    It is life changing.

  21. The comments section here and everywhere from now on will be divided into two groups, discernerable only by those that listened to Mike Benz unbelievably thorough explanation of “US intelligence and military created machine learning AI censorship to destroy the traditional definition of freedom” and rubes being “Squirelled” and censored by the STATE.

    1. I watched the Benz monologue and was not convinced by his overarching theory; it certainly didn’t change my life. I suspect he’s weaving a long tapestry out some short threads. Without knowledge of an ulterior motive I’ll assume he’s a genuine enthusiast. He did sort of remind me of Linux fan.

      Be careful, believing that you are awake to some special knowledge that browbeaten normies are ignorant of is the very definition of “woke”. Nobody should want to be that.

  22. The west is in decline.. No need to pretend that our government gives a lick about it.. They do as they please for reasons only they understand.. Power and monopolies for themselves.. Putin always wins because everybody else dies in jail..

    The difference being.. Russia torments other countries.. We torment our own people.. You cant expand and treat your own people badly.. That happens in decline..

    1. If by torment you mean invade. The USA has had a few of its own moments. It’s all a matter of spin. Putin did to Novalny, more or less, what the Biden/Obama cabal is attempting to do to Trump. Talk about torment.

      1. “Putin did to Novalny, more or less, what the Biden/Obama cabal is attempting to do to Trump. ”

        And the award for the most retarded comparison of the day goes to Tommy.

        Navalny barely escaped assassination attempt by FSB. The medical treatment he received in Germany saved his life. He then returned to Orgrimmar, was arrested on bullshit charges and then slow murdered in prison. Repeatedly tortured, denied medical treatment, having his body and his brain exhausted by endless sadistic brutality and cruelty. Are all orc supporters unfamiliar with the notion of order of magnitude? By comparison, can you tell me how many days did Trump spent in a gulag? You don’t have to be precise, just a ballpark figure will do.

          1. “I won’t bother. …”

            Why not? Why not defend your genius thesis? Explain how Trump has been tortured, poisoned, infected with diseases, denied medical treatment, denied sleep, imprisoned in freezing conditions, kept is solitary, denied even access to a bed during the day in the most infamous Siberian hellholes. Clearly lawfare against Trump waged by a corrupt judiciary and poisoning with bio weapons are the same thing in your book.

            Face it, you should not try making a point, it never comes out quite as you thought it would.

  23. Most of the info Mike Benz is putting out has been around and talked about by other citizen journalists for at least the last 4 years, he does a nice job though of tying it all together. Scott Adams is dummer than I thought if he is just learning this stuff now.

  24. So listen to 4 years of Sundance’s Conservative Tree House or watch an hour of MB “tying it all together”…

    Fair enough.

    1. I see the Independent’s article quotes Hillary Clinton as an expert . Right. Have you checked what the Atlantic has to say about the interview? Highly respected source among elites of elite opinion.

      1. Who cares if they got a pre reaction from Hitlery? Point is that even Pootin found Cucker embarrassingly slobbering.

    2. Insulting everyone who you disagree with is just such a great way to get your point across. Keep on spreading joy and happiness! You must be the life of every party.

      1. Toomy got owned, so goes back to his usual ankle biting style. Keep at it, play to your strengths, making arguments isn’t one, you look a lot like Freddie when you try.

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