When you’re below the thermocline

with women, what’s a little battery?

I remember the day after Fields accused Lewandowski of grabbing her arm the refrain from Trump fans on Twitter was “Prove it! File a police report or you’re lying.” So she filed a police report. Then the refrain was “It was the other guy standing behind Trump, not Lewandowski!” Then new video came out showing, no, it was Lewandowski. Then the refrain was “He barely touched her. No one could seriously believe this is battery.” So now he’s been charged with battery.

That whole “Never Apologize” thing went stupid, real fast. A quick five minute statement by Lewandowski apologizing and explaining that he was just trying to keep up with Trump would have made the whole thing go away.
Going stupid fast seems to be in the air this season.

106 Replies to “When you’re below the thermocline”

  1. Well sorry for jumping the gun and calling you a Trumpet but the amount of ugly I see from Trump supporters these days and the ridiculous justifications of it remind me of the left not the right. Some a$$hole is caught sucker punching a protester who was being escorted out by security and Trump himself states that he is contemplating paying hie legal fees instead of demanding that his followers do not behave like the SEIU goons.

  2. @Colonialista:
    “Try grabbing my wife for any perceived slight and you experience the joy of picking up your teeth with broken fingers.”
    Were you trying for humor?? If so, no success.
    On the one side we have a rude, entitled women cutting in a long line of orderly people and rightly being put in her place. On the other side, we have an enraged husband (presumably you but possibly your wife if she’s large enough) facing assault and battery charges with jail time and a civil suit for pain and damages. You must choose one or the other. (Oh, by the way, the imaginary outcome you portray may not reflect the actual outcome.)
    Are you insane or retarded??

  3. “Jack Layton got away with grabbing a woman in a bar who had the bad manners to get between him and a camera.
    Couldn’t be the ole double standard could it?”
    Jack Layton and the scrag got caught living in subsidized housing despite jointly earning a 6 figure income and suffered little media attention, much of it apologetic. You keep going on about a double standard. What double standard?

  4. Getting between a candidate and the Secret Service is a dangerous thing. She’s extremely lucky they didn’t get to her first.

  5. The lesson here is if you need to grab someone, you may as well beat the crap out of them too.
    In for a penny, yadda yadda yadda…

  6. “If you touch somebody with your finger, you can be charged. Harm is not required, just contact.”
    You are correct in the law. None the less, humans being humans, courts are not sympathetic to frivolous charges which waste the courts time.

  7. The guy punching the escorted one did so because the escorted and his chick had Klan hats on. You might figure a black man taking issue with that. Who knew?

  8. Yup, the “journalist” is a political operative. The accusation will last as long as the establishment hopes to beat Trump, and then will bee silently ignored.

  9. “Were you trying for humor??”
    Grab my wife (or a wife of any self respecting male) and find out for yourself.
    “Are you insane or retarded??”
    Are you just a Trumpet or a wife beater too??

  10. If your wife approached my wife in a threatening manner, I’d more than grab her, I’d slap her to the ground.
    Then I’d slap you to the ground for failing to control your wife.

  11. Nope sorry, not that one, try again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LX4Q643aEU
    With so many shining examples of trumpet behavior is hard to keep up with excuses, I understand.
    Oh and btw, if someone wants to wear a clan costume it is still legal and they still do not get to become punch bags for frustrated trumpets acting out their SEIU fantasies. I know, I know not point in explaining “freedoms of speech” to a trumpet.

  12. Trumped up charges to give Michelle and her bf the fame and press credentials unachievable from their own skill. I don’t know the laws of Florida, but is this out of a citizen complaint, requiring the police to act? I understand there’s no formal charge at this time, which must happen before trial proceeds.
    This seems a very spurious accusation. I have watched the Trump supplied and other videos time and time again and I just can’t see it. She seems to be attempting to cut across Trump’s path with his personnel protection acting to her to move her away. She then waits days to go to the police or show her bruises, she now alleges were caused by at best incidental contact with someone when she entered a security bubble.
    Michelle’s seems like a self-important, wannabe investigative but unemployed journalist type (apparently one can accuse, no proof, just belief required):
    “… she claimed she was assaulted when she worked for Students for Liberty and threatened the organization when they asked her to do work. It’s important to stress here that Fields is pretty lazy. She was fired from the Daily Caller for not doing work. Her famous questioning of celebrities reportedly required a lot of coaching from her Reason.tv videographer.”
    Daily Caller senior editor Jamie Weinstein is Michelle’s on again, off again boyfriend. He’s important and will come up again later. Weinstein and Fields are a wannabe DC power couple. Why did Fields not ask a question of Trump at his forty-minute press conference?”
    Why was she waiting in an area that Secret Service was already clearing? Why did Fields who did not see who tugged her arm ask Lewandowski if he was in the fact the person who tugged her arm? Why did she not speak to a superior about the alleged incident instead of a speaking to a hostile news outlet and a romantic interest right away? Why did Fields not ask a question of Trump at his forty-minute press conference?”
    Why was she waiting in an area that Secret Service was already clearing? Why did Fields who did not see who tugged her arm ask Lewandowski if he was in the fact the person who tugged her arm? Why did she not speak to a superior about the alleged incident instead of a speaking to a hostile news outlet and a romantic interest right away?”
    http://gotnews.com/calling-bullshit-michelle-fields/
    Maybe this is the way she has figured out how to become known since she lacks the ability or work ethic? Cue for the charges of sexism. She wants to play in the big leagues, well here goes. She’s going to receive a sh**storm of negative details about her previous peccadillos, like using the same “I nearly lost my balance” attack claims against the NYPD at an Occupy rally.
    Again, no presumption of innocence for Trump or anyone supporting him. It was truly sad to see Kasich and Cruz use this for their purposes, using a discreditable “charge” against a Trump aide for whom there is zero chance of conviction. How they prove intent in this case should be interesting.
    It will surely never go to trial. Michelle and the bf’s trial has just begun; hope they enjoy their new fame. Sure Trumps feistiness bothers many, but he will act with loyalty to protect his guy. He should probably just let the thing go away, but that’s not his style.

  13. http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/29/secret-service-says-michelle-fields-touched-trump-before-lewandowski-intervened/
    Anyone who gets between the SS and someone they are charged to protect is probably lucky to not have a SS guy sitting on them.
    This is ridiculous. Seems like the war isn’t against women; it’s women declaring war on anybody who doesn’t treat them like little cupcakes (after they act outrageously).
    Swedish girls get assaulted by “refugees” = no battery here. A known sU(t-stirrer like Fields gets her sleeve grabbed = omg! assault! assault!
    And the Trump supporters are the audacious ones? I’m thinking the anti-Trumpers are beginning to sound like the worst of the Occupy sham.
    And for whoever said “touch my wife”; well, if your wife is the sort of uncivil, rude lady to cut in front of somebody in line or otherwise accost them, then yep, I’m touching her (for the record, I don’t like that sort of thing, but then I don’t like rude, uncivil people and operate from the system of “you get what you start”). I won’t apologize either, nor back down (I’m all about equality for the “fairer” sex if they wish to act the fool). I guess that makes me a thug, but whatever.

  14. In case it escaped your attention it was not SS that intervened. Funny how the excuse has morphed from “nothing happened” to “she deserved it anyhow”.

  15. “If your wife approached my wife in a threatening manner,”
    What threatening manner? A disagreement on who waited in the line first (that does not involve your wife just you) is “threatening manner” to you? Are all trumpets comprehension impaired?

  16. “Yup, the “journalist” is a political operative.”
    That journalist worked for Breitbart, an outfit that is all in the tank for Trump. Are you trumpets capable of connecting even the closest dots?
    At this point I am willing to believe the theory that Trump has stolen the stupid ray machine from Obama. No other explanation makes sense.

  17. I felt Trump’s campaign was recently lagging, lacking direction and energy, as before. Now Michelle and her trumped up charges have rescued him and given him something to attack his knee jerk opponents; too bad Kasich and Cruz swallowed the debate, refusing due process or the presumption on this aide and by association, Trump. She made a complaint to police and in our age of PC and anti-rape culture, they have no choice but to investigate. No arrest was made, but a trial date, which won’t happen, was set.
    The reason Corey said she was delusional and didn’t know who she was is because until that night, to him she was just some kook in a yellow jacket trying to get at Trump in a secure area. There is plenty of video showing he at most brushed against her, the Secret Service touched her, as is their job.
    There is zero evidence of battery and everybody knows it. Then again making accusations of battery is nothing new to this lady. Perhaps it’s a busy day but I see little mention Fields has written a book she is now trying to sell. Is this her motivation? Just asking. If she wants to play with the adults she can’t expect to stay in the shallow end.

  18. Anyone who thinks Lewandowski should have apologized, you are wrong.
    Apologizing would have been the worst thing to do.

  19. I’m imagining the media with a Trump presidency – they’ll rave on worse than cbc on steroids when Bush was in office. More popcorn indeed.

  20. SDH i think you are probably right .
    The reason is apologizing is an admission of guilt

  21. Well you can bloviate all you want about what did or did not happen. The fact is nothing of any consequence happened and Trump will capitalize on this over and over and over about how one sided the media is and how fragile and delicate the nation has become. Not sure why this story contributor thinks he needs to bark at every little squirrel though. Someone needs to swat his cute little nose with a rolled up newspaper (thats all they are good for now) and put his muzzle back on.

  22. modern metis girl,
    He contributes becasue he is in the anybody but trump campaign…the problem for him and all of them is the more they try to “expose” trump the more they help him bygiving him airtime…if i was an anti trump media type i would talk about anything but trump but they shoot themselves in the foot free airtime and also they give trump a chance to plead his side of the story and in this case i initially thought it was wrong of lewendowski but now that i can see it was clearly a non event that will be tossed out of court once again this bimbo and the left wing media “expose” themselves as buffoons and simpletons.
    Mark my words if trump wins …if he wins the presidency mark my words there will be mass MASS hysteria uncontrollable hysteria riots you name it on the left and yes someone will try to assassinate him.
    And for as much as i absolutely dislike and cannot stand obama i would be embarrassed if someone tried to assassinate him or succeed …that is not politics at all obama has done alot of damage to america but does not deserve to be murdered or kicked or beaten or spit on or anything.
    The left and some in the cino establishment republican party are getting right nasty and vicious its not good at all.

  23. When he’s assassinated it will be his fault too because his words irritate violent thugs and totalitarians.

  24. “…violent thugs and totalitarians…”
    … but enough about Trumpets alredy, not all of them are like that.

  25. Well said, every time.
    So, now that half the commenters on here are P”Oed at the other half and vice versa. What next?
    It does seem that this whole affair is just another attempt in ongoing hate-fest against Trump by the business as usual RHINO establishment who see their little jig being up.
    The US is going down hill economically and politically real fast, and desperately needs to severely change direction. Trump or Cruz, both are sure as blazes better than another RHINO who will keep the downhill slide going. The RHINOs had control of Congress, the Senate, and the Supreme court and what happened, crickets, the downhill slide just kept going.

  26. I see colonistais picking up where Al in cranbrook left off…lol it’s not enough to say trump ain’t my guy and move on ….nope it’s a pile on and a total slagging of trump and anyone who supports him lol. Typical elitist attitude on display here colonista . You sighting in your rifle?

  27. Ugh me elitist? Really? Elitist? For arguing that one should keep their hands to themselves? Of is it for arguing that they should not have lied about what they have done? Or is it because I condemned Trump for defending his supporters when they act like SEIU rent-a-thugs? For as long as Trumpets continue behaving like Ogabe or Justine supporters I will continue mocking them, didn’t know that was elitist.
    All my rifles are sighted, thank you very much.

  28. Lance is just another cuckservative. He would have apologized thinking he was some white knight and Fields would have milked it for all it’s worth. All we need now is a bikini pic. Not of Lance, but Michelle.

  29. ” put his muzzle back on”
    But, putting on a muzzle didn’t stop a yapping dog from messing the spaces around him, or himself.

  30. Colonista
    Why are you silent when Bernie supporters smash windows and shut down speeches.
    1 trump supporter makes a stupid decision and you go ballistic. Lol.
    And yes you sound elitist very much so . Just say you don’t like trump or support him and move on. No need to call his supporters trumpets Ect Ect like they are foreign to you they are human beings that support someone you don’t. They are not smarter or stupider than you they are not racists or bigots anymore than any other supporter of any other candidate.
    By your constantly slagging trump supporters instead of singling out one guy who did something wrong you do the exact opposite …massive amounts of leftists supporting Bernie smash windows assault speech goers shut down speeches Ect Ect and you say it’s one or 2 bad guys when it’s mobs of hundreds …then literally one guy on camera who sucker punches someone and you label everyone a trumpet and say we are all violent.
    Then have the nerve to shit talk those you disagree with like you know better ….you are an elitist at least you are acting like one. Simply state your point which is I don’t like trump because……and move on. Do you see trump supporters in here talking shit about Cruz supporters or Rubio supporters? No just the candidates themselves. And that is fine and well. But you think like a liberal …..those who think or beleive different than you well surely there must be something wrong with them right?
    Get lost man. You sound right foolish…and I generally like your comments and beleive you to be a pretty conservative guy but you are letting your pride get in your way of just shutting the f up and moving on .

  31. “Why are you silent when Bernie supporters smash windows and shut down speeches.”
    Because it goes without saying that I despise everything the red diaper baby and his supporters stand for.
    In this thread I have addressed specific comments from specific trumpets. Comments that endorsed and excused SEIU-like behavior as long as it was our side that did that. I have also addressed Trump supporting and endorsing this behavior. I will continue doing that.

  32. It is not as if he ate a communion wafer at a funeral, or something serious like that?

  33. Wow, the Trump hate is really getting ridiculous over a total non-issue. Good Lord, some of you have truly gone around the bend. This place is going to blow the hell up when he wins.

  34. I’ve seen the video more times than the Zapruder film – Sorry, I’m just not seeing it.
    I get that people don’t like Trump and that’s fine but don’t pi$$ on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
    It’s insulting.

  35. So, the Occupy Trumpsters who have so much to say on this thread can wrap their heads around this little factoid that surfaced this morning…

    “…But speak­ing on condi­tion of anonymity, a member of Trump’s Secret Service detail told DailyMail.com on Tuesday that Fields touched Trump twice – and was warned by agents to stop – before Lewandowski pulled her away….”

    There are a number of good strategic reasons why Trump team would encourage pursuit of this charge. Not the least of which is the “transparency” of a real investigation. If you’re not bringing your “A” game to the Trump battlefield, you’ve already lost…

  36. I just watched 12 seconds of video. Given the battery standard offered, I saw at least four chargeable offences. Field in fact battered a photographer when she bumped against him. When asked for his footage, the photographer in the red shirt denied he was at the event, but when outed, said he saw no battery on anybody’s part, but had apparently “lost” his photographs. KC Finney’s link shows the chicanery of this whole affair, with a Clinton Democrat DA involved in charges with clear political motivation.
    I sense a big lawsuit for malicious prosecution which won’t be hard to prove as we learn more and more about the players involved in this obvious attempt to derail Trump. Did I mention Field is pitching her new book right now?
    As far as the “transcripts” are concerned, they remind me of a phone video a tenant tried to present at a tenancy branch hearing for the damage she did to a place: “oh look over there, a bug, oh that’s disgusting.” The arbitrator wouldn’t touch it, contrived nonsense that it was. Then the tenant got mad, had a hissy fit so the arbitrator closed the hearing (oh yeah she lost).
    How long before Michelle Field’s tearful, make it up as you go, “I can’t take on the whole system.” No just use it, along with negligent GOP and opportunistic Dem establishows. I know Trump says things people hate, therefore their violent predisposition is his fault. Of course, colon-ista, even though attendees are told beforehand to leave the various Bernie supporters, black lives matter and Occupy thugocrats to security staff. Why are only Trump haters allowed to be angry. Here’s another angle for all, from someone actually at a Trump rally:
    “The anti-Trump protesters were “…verbally violent at the door, yelling ‘EFF Donald Trump’. I mean being outrageous. Um, a very very uncomfortable feeling. I mean people were directly yelling at me as if I’m a criminal. And all I’m trying to do is hear what the man has to say. I didn’t wear anything supporting Donald Trump. I was very neutral with this black shirt and khakis on.
    “I got inside it was peaceful, initially. The shocking thing is that everybody seemed to be peaceful. There wasn’t a lot of hatred and maliciousness going on and lashing out at the protesters. Initially there was nothing like that and I didn’t get that impression at all. When, but the thing, the thing that stood out to me was the protesters–from the door and then some of them snuck in…”
    “During the event, I mean these people were acting a fool. I’m talking about cussing and screaming. You guy’s seen some pictures. There was somebody wearing a Ku Klux Klan hat, saying ‘Eff Donald Trump,’ flipping people off. The group that I posted were yelling ‘Eff Donald Trump!” in front of these kids. They had families down there, I seen this one lady covering her daughter’s ears. Because the people were just outlandish and out of control.” Tatum said of the protesters: “These people are the most hateful, evil people I’ve ever seen. I could not believe what I saw.”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-black-tucson-cop-shocked-by-evil-behavior-of-trump-protesters-praises-restraint-of-trump-supporters/

  37. More on the ‘battery’…
    “I’ve been installing IV lines for over 30 years and I’m telling you this is NOT her arm,” writes Matthew Beals, CNMT MBA. “It appears to be the arm of an obese female. No veins. Active people have them popping out everywhere.”
    Beals continued: “Looking at the arm there is significant fat tissue from the elbow up. Also a complete lack of vasculature (no visible veins). This is the arm of a sedentary adult obese female most likely a diabetic.”
    We looked for photos through Michelle Fields’s Instagram and can’t find evidence that she has a mole as the photo pictured here.
    http://gotnews.com/tag/jamie-weinstein/

  38. I have seen real racism!.. Racism is “Insane hatred with homicidal intent”. The people who throw those names around without cause are mentally challenged, or pure EVIL…..or both
    The feeble minded “name callers” that dress-up in hoods WILL attract the real thing… and they are not exactly pretenders. Disrespect can be deadly to Sesame-Street over-aged toddlers.

  39. Michelle Fields …
    claimed she was assaulted when she was with the students for liberty group
    claimed Senator Allen West sexually assaulted her, she later recanted
    claimed Leonardo Dicaprio manhandled her
    Claimed Lewandowski threw her to the ground, which the videos show is complete lie.
    She is a crazy woman, she should be charged with something as it can not be legal to do what she does.

  40. For those of you comparing this with someone grabbing your wife’s arm at the grocery store, you need a reality check; Trump receives death threats regularly
    your wife does not.

  41. No, the person who needs a reality check is the person who brought up the grocery store example as an excuse for Lewandowski first lying and the going full retard on the issue. Because reasons or somethin.

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