77 Replies to “How Sociology Majors Destroy the World”

  1. Aaron @3:27 – that sounds great.
    It depends. A lot of people get into anthro now because they want to do forensics – blame CSI etc. I fancied archaeology (stupid! stupid!) But not to get too off topic… At an undergrad level, and from what I’ve seen of the postgrad level too, it’s a lot of squishy, made-up stuff about how other cultures are nice and like to share. Just boring fluff – “marxiology”, as an academic I know characterized the Humanities. It’s completely “non-judgmental”, in the sense that Bushman hunter-gatherers are in no way to be thought of as operating at a less sophisticated level than, say, the Florentines of the high Renaissance. Not, of course, that you’d study Europeans.
    The only interesting bits are topics like, say, Navajo kinship-marriage patterns and so on; the honest-to-goodness, how people organize themselves information. And even that needs to be taken with a bucket of salt. Nobody’s dug up Margaret Mead and staked her yet.
    At the post grad level it gets into the seriously unreadable theory laden “praxis of power-dynamic re-interpretation…” blah blah.
    I’d like to add that 8 out of 10 archaeologists are:
    a] certifiable flakes with severe ADD
    b] barking mad neo-hippy leftists or
    c] highly abusive drunks. (b may overlap with either a or c.)
    I don’t think that’s too OT as we’re meant to be talking about how useless degrees are useless.

  2. I have two years college diploma in Math and physics
    I have also engineering degree I took 4 courses in Economics as elective courses too I like it.
    With 6 courses in masters in IT (information technology) and diploma in computer programming which I never liked it
    I know Canadian agriculture in some areas not all
    I like political science and history and Geography and study of religions
    So many thing help so many thing or courses waste time for people co op education is best to learn and work while you study and find fast and easy way to learn is important.
    ======
    Job is not only what courses you are taking while it can help you brain exercise more like body need exercise to be in shape
    Science is priceless and study and learning science in so many subjects is good and possible but you need to focus in one or two majors all the time as knowledge is important
    So as behavior some times too much self confidence and low self confidence lead you to criminal mind and /or bad behavior but key point is total package to get good job
    Take the job is matter of so many factors
    Finding a good job is only opportunity and May good luck not necessary all courses you took
    The key points for all government home work is to how to keep the job for long period of job is matter of knowledge research and upgrading and good behavior I still have weakness of hate working with stupid or regular people directly which some times you must do that or train some one to pass the message for you some times doctores must deal with patients or engineer work with labor workers are you ready to work all kind of stranger in public is question you need to ask before take any question public job and private job are seperated from each other how to bring up your talent to put environment around you with understandable people not with strangers
    study of Sociology helped to reduce my weakness and know people before I talk to them
    Government is not idiot or bad they are confuse for their direction and how to keep it in long period of time steady growing keep changing is not benefit anybody so far as keep change government every 4 years I believed it is waste time some times and resources and not used those experience to get develop for further correction. You know it all but facing government who judge you for your background and race or where you come from people with less education made money today with people who had have lots of education but not originally are Canadian are bring question what is waste doing it all !
    I like helping people if I can and not get frustrated

  3. Oh, there’s a d]; creepy dead-eyed careerist hacks who’s “work” consists of “networking” at conferences on University money.
    SOME archaeologists are very nice.
    Okay, I’ll shut up now.

  4. “In a culture where we must pass everyone, total morons get to the level hard workers used to get to.”
    OT/
    It’s interesting that you say this today. I just had a conversation with my 9yr old yesterday. She told me the teacher held a “class meeting” and that that kids who failed the class will be “held back” next year. You can imagine my surprise when my daughter told me about this class meeting. My wife and I wondered if the teacher is bluffing, trying motivate the class, or softening some of the kids up for the upcoming bad news.

  5. Regarding the history bashing: what would a study of history of finance revealed about current conditions as of 2007?
    I know that it’s possible to read the relevant books on the side, but there’s a lot of ’em. Studying that branch formally would have amounted to the same thing.

  6. Daniel ~ start here: Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds (1841). Of course, that requires understanding; most people would rather just complain and blame everything on something else, such as “government” or “socialism”. But are not governments made of humans? Are not humans social? In other words, the problem (to the degree that there is a problem, of which I am not convinced) is humans: so study anthropology, or look in a mirror 😉

  7. we have the governments we have have because most voters are uninformed idiots. that applies to history and thing else you would care to mention.

  8. Sociology: bad bosses and law makers destroy the world
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  9. So let’s see if I can summarize the discussion so far:
    A good liberal education in things such as history, philosophy and literature is useless crap — never mind that so many individual counter-examples can be cited to overturn the generalization.
    Yes, I think that pretty well gets it.
    BTW, a friend of mine, head of a biology dept. in a major Can. university, recently acknowledged to me (after I pressed him hard about it) that a proposal to the National Science and Engineering Research Council of Canada which takes a sceptical view of global warming/climate change is very unlikely to receive funding, despite its overall merit.
    So, since the study of science at Canadian universities has clearly been sold out and politicized, it too can be classified as “useless crap.”

  10. Old white guy — that would depend upon your chosen profession.
    Major of the much maligned English sort here: (yes, I did switch from vet med to English in a mental burp of laziness; yes, while I pulled very good grades with some work in vet med, I pulled great grades as an English major with a lot of procrastination — plus no 8 a.m. labs, and I could ride horses every day and get paid for it, and go drink with my buddies; what wasn’t to love? — I was a stable punk).
    I have no one but myself to blame for my lack of cash now that I’m all grown up and the only real job I can get is teaching. Then again, with all the animal rights nuts, I’m not sure my original dream job would have been without its share of headaches.
    Nonetheless, and all blathering aside, here lies the problem, I did take hard science courses and my English profs were old school and believed in the canon and the laws of aesthetics as laid down by classical Western civ; they also believed in scientific theory and rational thought (I had some good profs). This does not market well in today’s educational sphere; not at all, not one little bit. To actually think or promote thinking is a verboten act.
    Therefore, folks in my particular field who actually think don’t usually wind up with jobs in their profession, or they don’t get very far (once in a great while a rare one will break the ivory ceiling). And this points to why the field/major has become a “worthless piece of crap”, the people who are usually awarded the cherry jobs, the publication of their material, are the ones who like as not follow the party line to a tee, even if the product of their academic endeavors really is worthless, politically motivated crap, and then they go on to teach along those lines, and…vicious cycle, straight ahead.
    — thank goodness I also know how to run machinery and fix things, like tractors, and do office work and balance books; it’s kept me at the very least employed/employable (and I suffer from fewer ulcers and headaches now). Thank goodness for being a barn rat; it’s helped me more than my college education!

  11. Narrow interests = a small mind.
    Read widely, and often. No discipline has a monopoly on wisdom. Only a fool would reject out-of-hand great swaths of human knowledge.

  12. I like his reasoning for which “business” degrees are worthless, and which are not. I wonder if he knows that in most business schools, the difference between a HR degree and Accounting degree is 8 courses. One of his charts totals to ~135%…

  13. @Vitruvius (5:14 PM)
    I reviewed it so long ago, my work’s been demoted to a text file.
    Back at ya:
    Manias, Panics and Crashes – Charles Kindleberger.
    Money Of The Mind – James Grant
    Two I haven’t read but are highly recommended:
    The Art of Contrary Thinking – Humphrey Neill. [Instead, I read a hot-off-the-presses book on the same subject, around 1990. I can’t even recall the title now.]
    Early Speculative Bubbles and Increases In The Money Supply by Doug French. This fellow took one of those economic history degrees; he’s now a senior officer at a bank.

  14. Quite so, Daniel, which is why Marcus Aurelius said:
    “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority,
    but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane”.

  15. what absolute garbage. The richest people I know (net worth of $10m or more- and 1 who is a billionaire) all have Philosophy degrees plus an MBA.
    it’s not the degree, it’s what you do with it. I know plenty of moronic mech engineers.

  16. Not just old people are acceptable targets. Short, fat white guys are acceptable targets for society as well.

  17. mathematics is the one discipline immune to bluff, fakery and huge grey areas. it is like currency, everything can be boiled down to dollars, ie a NUMBER assigned to its value. some more so than others.
    on the topic of numbers, some of the numbers in the posting dont add up. also life ISN’T that black and white.
    except in the ultra- arch- right wing.

  18. The preponderance of junk diplomas in the ranks of the civil service is a problem.
    Philosphy majors, poli-sci majors, and history majors (I KNOW a few myself) who use their brains and go into the world to work and earn their keep are NOT the problem chumpy.
    And BTW There are PLENTY of MBAs who aren’t capable of running any business anywhere but into the ground. I’ve seen them in action .. every last one playing by rote from the playbook of the program (which I’ve been through) … not one bit of creative ability or an original idea among the lot.
    As for the Captain’s take on History majors …. unless you intend to stay in academe there is no point in majoring in History. There IS a point in learning history and IMO it should be mandatory in all areas that in order to get accreditation History has to be a component of the courses.
    Of course … it should also be mandatory that anyone who teaches history NOT be a raving propagandist.

  19. Aaron @ 3:27, that stuff is paleontology. Now that was extremely interesting stuff, because it was based on real science. The rest of it was just glorification of non-Western cultures and how perfect they are as compared to the West – cultural relativism – and how they were all screwed up by Western imperialism. In fact Western cultures weren’t even considered worthy of study. They were just the bad guys.

  20. chumpdog @ 8:11, I’m betting it’s the MBA that got him where he is. Philosophy is a good foundation, better than anthropology, that’s for sure, but only if it’s topped off with something practical. My BA is only one of three degrees that I can list after my name when I’m feeling self-important. The other two are in real practical professions for which there are real jobs.

  21. Louise @10:31 – Yes. Paleontology or paleoanthropology. I should have mentioned that before my rant. As you say, real science, and very interesting.

  22. Doug, I never said to dispense with the study of history. I said that a degree in history is almost worthless as the basis of a career. Unless you plan on becoming a history teacher/professor, or an author, a degree in history doesn’t do much for you. Naming some historic mathematicians or scientists does not justify a history degree. Their contributions are studied where applicable in the appropriate fields of study. When you study Descartes in history class, you won’t be studying the tangent line problem and seeing how calculus evolved from his work. That will be done in math class. And the work of Descartes and Newton can be studied without learning about the individuals, thus separating the useful mathematics from the interesting but not so useful history of the two individuals.

  23. “mathematics is the one discipline immune to bluff, fakery and huge grey areas. it is like currency, everything can be boiled down to dollars, ie a NUMBER assigned to its value. some more so than others”
    Just to play Devil’s Advocate: where did the square root of -1 come from?

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