36 Replies to “An Alberta Independence Poll Goes Horribly Wrong”

    1. it doesnt *matter* what TROC thinks. any more in face of kaybecks blackmail.
      it matters what bloody alberta thinks. playing the audience for suckers.
      do that in Canaduh to win.
      but dont let them take you with them alberta.

  3. Why do I get the feeling results they aren’t expecting is going to scare the sht out of alot of people. 🙂

  4. Quebecers and Maritimers want equalization money, and Ontario has figured out that they’ll have to cough up a lot if Alberta separates.

    1. Canada could EASILY survive the separation of Quebec. In fact, Canada would do much better having been cut loose from the boat anchor. Canada would NOT survive the separation of Alberta not only for economic reasons, but Canada would be physically split and would likely end up with BC splitting itself. There should really be a referendum of which province should be forced out.

    2. I was quite shocked to discover that Ontario (16 million people) also gets equalization payments of 17 million dollars per year. They also are a bunch of grifters!
      “Don’t spend money you do not have!” is my mottos, wish all levels of government thought the same way.

  5. Huh … and imagine that … the MAGA acronym needs no modification! Welcome to the fold Albertans

    1. Make Alberta Great At last?
      Wife just got back from Ontario,they “know” Alberta cannot separate ..
      And that the Western hicks are too stupid to “understand their place” in Can Ahh Duh.
      “Best country in the world”..
      Alberta needs to play Planet D for douce,as advertisement for Independence from such fools.
      Thanks again Unknown Jane!

      Can Ahh Duh actually encourages these kind of Chicken Dancers to vote..
      They outnumber Western Tax Payers…We will never get through to them..
      These are Not See’s .
      They will not see,for to do so,would require them to grow up..

      Separation into an Independent Nation is the least bloody path open to us,for our Eastern Comrades have a proven track record..

      1. “They will not see, for to do so,would require them to grow up..”

        Yes indeed. There are none so blind as those whose Iron Rice Bowl depends on them not-seeing.

        It occurs to this Ontario resident that the only growth industries in Ontario are government and stealing from government. Everything else is shrinking and fleeing to the USA. I hear that illegal drugs are doing pretty well.

        Meaning that the Elbows Up crowd are strongly benefiting from the ways things are, and nothing short of a revolution will shake them from it.

        #Trump is a revolution. This is why I like what he’s doing in Canada, which is kicking the Laurentian Elite in the tenders. He’s done more to fix Canada than the CPC ever thought of doing. Slapping #CarkMarney around and saying “51st State” to #ShinyPony was f-ing brilliance.

        #Western Separation is another revolution. Long overdue. It’s about time Canadians stood up for themselves instead of waiting for #TheDonald to do it for them. That’s why I support it.

        If Alberta and Saskatchewan really do go through with it, the result will be the destruction of the Canadian Big Government business model. It’ll be OVER.

          1. “Pierre even seems to have found his gonads lately hopefully he keeps it up.”

            Nah…he has just done his usual thing, after waiting long enough to see which way the wind is blowing: he released an oh-so-carefully worded statement that appeals to both sides while promising absolutely nothing concrete to fix the problems. Typical PP.

        2. “He’s done more to fix Canada than the CPC ever thought of doing. Slapping #CarkMarney around and saying “51st State” to #ShinyPony was f-ing brilliance.”

          And exactly the kind of things he is so well known (and well documented) for doing. For years now. People who somehow fail to understand this (hi KM!) are either woefully ignorant or just outright liars.

          1. “People who somehow fail to understand this (hi KM!) are either woefully ignorant or just outright liars.”

            As time goes on, it is less and less possible to be that ignorant. Even the dumbest of the dumb can’t miss everything that’s happening.

            Furthermore, I don’t think they could be merely lying. For what? Trolling so consistently isn’t normal, they’re always on point. Actual trolls are all over the place, they’ll say anything. These guys are all banging the same drum, day after day.

            Paid to lie. It’s a campaign.

            So these days I just look at what’s happening right in front of me, I look at who’d telling me it isn’t happening even though I can see it right there, and I take notes.

            So far my notes are that the CBC and many government sources are sounding exactly like the guys in Mumbai, Singapore, Pakistan and China pretending to be from Alberta.

            Yes, we can see you.

  6. L – Some polls are for dogs, the small yappy ones, who imagine themselves to be Irish Wolf Hounds. But as the referendum gets nearer and the globalist fiends become more desperate. They will send out a giant monster. Then Alberta will require a Beowulf, as her champion.

    1. Sadly, Manitoba “used” to be great, but years of NDP governments have ruined the province. Perhaps there are pockets of population who are NOT grifters, they can come. Wobbly Canoe can stay at home.

    2. Better be here before That Great Day in the event the borders close up tighter than a Nun’s hooha!!

  10. Soory Alberta, Ontario and Quebec just can’t quit you. They will never let their cash cow go.

    1. but why does the issue expressed as ‘a’ ‘lets’ ‘b’ do ‘x’?
      how does the ‘letting’ creep in in issues of autonomy?
      ‘let’ is B.S.
      ONTQUE is far too accustom to the ‘letting’ nonsense to see the referendum for what it is.
      numbers showing a drive towards unilateralism.
      it just needs to evolve from implied to explicite.
      and that depends how much of the Canaduh parasitic mindset has lodged itself in the alberta psyche.
      there were united empire loyalists after all.

  11. I apologize in advance for raining on everyone’s parade. Here’s why I don’t see Alberta ever becoming a sovereign entity outside of Canada. There are many reasons, and these are but a few:

    1. Alberta’s Premier (Danielle Smith) is on record as being opposed to secession in any capacity. She’s a politician who isn’t 100% committed to that change. She is playing this as a typical politician in that she won’t commit. Her approach is to give the “I won’t stand in the way” spiel. Instead, she anticipates an opportunity to gain concessions from Ottawa that she will use to promote herself in Alberta.

    2. Secession of a Province is in direct violation of the Canadian Constitution (which is interpreted by the Liberal Supreme Court). It would require a new amendment to the Constitution, and considering that most other provinces would be damaged by Alberta’s departure, even conservatives in those Provinces would be against it.

    3. The Clarity Act (established in relationship to Quebec own efforts) is purposely written in a vague way by the House of Commons such that the Courts (ultimately, the Liberal Canadian Supreme Court) decide terms such as “CLEAR majority vote” and “CLEAR will of the people.” The word “CLEAR” was put in there for this very reason.

    4. First Nations have indicated they would initiate legal challenges, as many treaties were made with the Crown, not the province, making unilateral separation illegal. There are already 3 Treaty decisions by the Supreme Court in favor of the FIrst Nations.

    5. Refusal to recognize any and all of the above would result in Ottawa invoking the Emergencies Act relative to Insurrection. THAT is why you can’t have a waffling politician as a Premier who isn’t committed 100% to secession.

    On top of all of the above, the entire process would take well over a decade (most purposefully). The longer it continues, the more difficult to maintain the momentum to follow through.

    Simply put, I don’t see it happening.

    2. So … if a majority of Albertans want out … and the Crown, Courts, and Savages refuse…? Then what? Erect an Albertan Wall? Hold Albertans prisoner? In the manner of the Soviet Union of Socialist Provinces?

      I will petition MY President to bestow blanket refugee status on every Albertan who wants to flee. Welcome to America, my friends. Welcome. We have plenty of RED Provinces, err States that comport with your values.

    3. Orson ,you may be 100% right on all of those things.
      Does not matter,Albertan’s already know that all bets are off.
      There will be no negotiations made in “Good faith” by Ottawa.
      Every western citizen already knows our future,under the status quo.
      War has been declared and it was not the tax paying citizenry who did so.

      1 Danielle does not matter,she can leap to the front of the parade or be swept aside.
      2 Canadian Constitution? Totally useless document.
      We have no rights nor freedoms under this rubbish document and will abandon it.
      3 Clear? Oh I think we shall be very clear.
      5 An emergency will be declared by Ottawa ,for sure.
      Alberta Independence is a national emergency,for Can Ahh Duh is bankrupt as soon as Alberta stops handing over wealth.
      A real genuine “National Emergency”,to which the Western response will be priceless.
      4 Treaties as written.
      And we shall see how the actual Albertan Indians respond,rather than the professional victimhood clowns.

      And of course,we know how Canada treats genuine votes to separate,by our countries endless funding of The Ukraine,who,after the eastern regions voted to join Russia, shelled them,as Canada cheered and supplied help.

      Alberta and Saskatchewan will end up declaring Unilateral Independence,because they can, because they must.
      And Canada will enable them,by their never ending theft,abuse and duplicity.

      Thus making most of the “problems” you list irrelevant.

      1. correctamundo. it just needs TROC to get so gridingly BAD under the hell-bent-over-a-cliff LIEberals the die is cast. writing onthe wall time. stay and get pulled down. decision time.
        thus all the rational arguement dont add up to a hill of beans, AB cesseds.

    4. The day after the referendum Alberta declares independence. The next day we fire all the federally appointed judges and appoint a whole bunch of rednecks. The Canadian Supreme Court would be of no interest to us.

    5. Orson… not looking for an argument, my argument is with Canada…

      1. Premier Smith may resign after a vote for separation, I don’t think she likes it, she may want to not be known as the one who led AB out of confederation. Someone else will take that job.
      2. I don’t have great respect for Canada’s constitution, AB separation may go against it, (it doesn’t say we can’t, and it doesn’t say we can) but the last time there was a great kerfuffle over it, it took about 4 years for the courts to rule that the emergency’s act was unconstitutional and now, a couple months after this, the gov’t hasn’t done anything about it, it’s absolutely a non issue in the MSM, and only some right wing blogs care at all. This passed without the gov’t caring AT ALL.
      If Canada has to re-write its constitution and it takes them 30 years to do so, that’s not Alberta’s problem, maybe it’ll take 50 years? …. that’s indicative of Canada’s law makers being tier 2 people who should do something else with their lives instead.
      3. A “clear vote” is 50% + 1 That’s all. Newfoundland joined Canada with a 52% vote, that’s hardly a sweeping majority as well, but it remains a “clear vote”.
      4. I think Canada’s treatment of First Nations people is too close to what South Africa did to its black population and people should start calling it what it is, “northern apartheid” … those people residing on First Nations lands will be voting as individuals, something their hereditary chiefs would do well to recognize. The age of kings is long past.
      5. I expect The President of the United States will recognize Alberta as a nation very soon after a successful referendum. Pres. Harry Truman recognized Israel 30 minutes after Israel’s declaration, and their houses voted for it a few months later. Tier 2 Canada isn’t going to say to The President that he can’t recognize Alberta. They don’t have the balls, and Canada isn’t going to do anything about this.
      6. For Alberta, it may all happen in a matter of weeks after the referendum. For Canada, I expect they’ll be wringing their hands over “what to do” for years after this break. The elected people will say glib quotes saying how they stand for Canada, even while these same cowards refused to do anything to stop it while Alberta was headed towards this referendum. How could they stop it? Offer Alberta the same deal it offers to Quebec, and offer all citizens of Canada equal representation for their MP’s and Senators. Address the major problem of equalization. Stop taking a decade to get a pipeline to the coasts approved and completed. After we separate, they’ll take that long to come to an agreement with themselves as to what they can do. Canada deserves their representatives who refuse to take a stand on principle, and they’re going to get that for years to come… Maybe they could look around for a decent constitution to adopt as their own, Canada certainly isn’t capable of writing one for themselves. They should decide what the word “fairness” means before going too deep on this document.

      Canada will have a major funding problem, a vehicle and general manufacturing decline which they need to address, as well as Sask. possibly wanting to separate, and Quebec is promised a referendum within 2 years of this autumn’s election. Perhaps they should ponder why all these issues surfaced while #Libranos were at the helm. Figure it out Pumpkins.
      It’ll be a lot easier to come to an agreement when it’s only BC, Manitoba, Ontario, and Atlantic provinces to argue, and all having #Libranos type governments they can all get a room and continue to fellate each other as they’re accustomed to.

    6. “Simply put, I don’t see it happening.”

      Seems to me you’re looking at the process as the only thing that’s important, Orson.

      Generally if a people want to form a nation or overturn the one they have, they all get together and say “F- your process!” and then sh00t anybody who says different.

      What’s Ottawa going to do if Alberta stops paying taxes and puts a border point on the TransCanada? They’re going to do -nothing-, because they’ve got nothing to do it with.

      I agree that it won’t be happening within the legal framework Ottawa has set forth. But I think it could easily happen if the #Lieberals just keep tightening the screws for another couple of years. Let them dump another half-million Indians in Edmonton. It’ll happen.

  13. “Recent reports show nearly 80% of Canadians oppose Alberta’s secession”.

    Sorry, ROC, just like a tapeworm or other parasite about to be ejected, or a mosquito about to be slapped, you don’t get a say

  14. The folks who write and post the polls for Toronto Morning X/Twitter, won’t be voting in the Alberta separation referendum, and just a small note on their 80% oppose whatever, that’s the same percentage of Canadians who said yes to the government jabs during covid times.

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