One might have thought that the following headline would sit well with all Canadians:
Stephen Harper announces tougher measures against sex offenders
Legislation will also create publicly accessible database of child predators
Apparently not. Vancouver radio station CKNW has been talking about it all day. Here’s a sampling of the comments on their Facebook page:
I don’t agree with anything Mr. Harper says or thinks or does.
This is nothing but pandering on the backs of child sex abuse victims, the tories had their chance with C-10 and failed miserably for ideological reasons, now they’re in poop up to their ears and hoping to turn this into an attack on opposition, they are no worse than the child abuser they purport to protect us from. I’m more worried about the level of fraud and corruption in the federal govt at the moment. i will not be distracted by such an obvious attempt to change the channel
The reason why haRper dosnt care about why they do it, is because harper dosnt believe in science or research, only oil, thats why, lol..
A public database is a great tool for vigilantes.
Rather than letting them out so we can track and trace them, why not indefinitely detain them until they are no longer sick in the head?
Let’s not bother with the Courts then. Free pitchforks and torches would be much cheaper to provide for everyone! At least the murderers will have a chuckle while enjoying their peace and quiet.
This proves that “Liberal” is a mental illness.
HDS now has a clinical basis, it will cause you to go to any lengths to defend child abusers…
Let me guess the detractors to the legislation, say we should treat them like fish…catch and release!
The logical conclusion of HDS won’t end well, to have a moral view is now deemed anathema.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Perhaps liberals could treat the “illness” of child sexual abuse by providing free underage prostitutes since similar treatment works like a damn for heroin.
The only problem that I have with creating lists of people who are offenders is it does infringe on their rights(debt paid to society and all that). But at the same time, society itself has a right to be informed of X person that’s been convicted. In the end, it’s similar to the RIDE programs. The benefits to society outweigh those of the individual, and as such the restriction and revoking of some freedoms/rights to benefit society as a whole win out.
The second poster was a party hack. The others,are either thick or pedophiles.
The issue I have with the list is that it appears at first glance to give the falsely accused and wrongfully convicted’s nutbar accuser a permanent rolodex listing for their victim.
It’d be nice if the system worked 100% of the time, but there’s really no point in just assuming it does and not considering scenarios where it doesn’t when writing policy.
Why, yes. A public registry is indeed a great tool for those determined to do the work the liberal-infested courts refuse to see done, namely, of giving pedophiles and other perverts the only “treatment” with more than a leftist’s chance of getting into heaven of working.
Now that’s settled, why are the left so determined to let sodomites marry and go on the record as being shameless perverts? I must confess that having the names and addresses of unrepentant sodomites will come in handy when their neighbours are finally able and willing to do what is just in the eyes in the Lord and rid the world of sodomy.
I can’t imagine why the sodomites themselves thought this was a good idea for a moment, though. Is putting on an obscene mockery of a wedding and humiliating their families so thoroughly worth that much to them?
Not really sure why one would want to label individuals under the age of 18 who took nude pictures of themselves as “sex offenders”? Presumably there just aren’t enough people for the police to be watching so it was necessary to increase the size of the criminal population after removing all of the paper criminals created by C68 through the destruction of firearms registry information.
Criminalizing the possession of a particular sequence of bytes on a hard drive is so repugnant that I have little faith in a non-totalitarian future. Seems that all a totalitarian politician has to say is “think of the children” and the majority of the population follow lemming-like away from freedom.
Perverts……..
Sex offender registries don’t work and are pretty evil actually. They are a continuing indefinite punishment after the sentence is served. This is another good example of Harper fiddling while Canada burns.
Whoever made that statement should be watched when approaching playgrounds!
Yeah, well they have HDS, we have Dick Slater.
Actually, Robert, there is a germ of sense in one of the comments you’ve posted. Why aren’t we locking these people away for lengthy terms after they’ve molested a woman or a kid 2, 3, 4, 5 times rather than have them serve yet another 23 months then loose them on us again? There is considerable learned thought out there that says most of these people are not “curable”.
Where is Canada burning?? In the minds of the Quebecois perhaps–outside of that we’re doing pretty good!
please spare me.. How about HATE CRIME and DANGEROUS OFFENDER..
You leftists sure love to brand your political prisoners for life, but not the pedos..
So clean up your own back yard before you lecture others on removing peoples rights..
No Surprise LAS comes to the defence of sex offenders and pedophiles again.
Of course this has nothing whatsoever to do with defending Islam, right?
You can always count on the “Liberal” Left, LAS, and John McCain to protect pedophiles, especially murdering ones like Al Qaeda whenever and wherever they can.
The Liberals opposed the raising of the age of consent from 14 to 16.
For years.
How can anyone vote against that?
Huffington Post Canada is pretty much dedicated to Harper bashing. They seem to try to run at least one Harper story a day to give the Harper Haters a chance to vent. Any excuse will do. A story on Harper opening a hospital is as good as any.
It really is infantile.
No registry period,
If you don’t want them on your streets then vote someone in who will keep them in prison.
I could. Why should age of consent be so high? 15 is good enough.
now slathering DICK, be carefull with what you say, as god reserves the rite to judge for himself and I would hate to see wind up in hell by default. I don’t want to have to put up with you to eternity!!!
No registry period,
If you don’t want them on your streets then vote someone in who will keep them in prison.
We tried that,(PMSH) and all the leftards heads exploded at the idea of keeping the poor dears in jail. And let us not forget that the leftards are responsible for murderers being free on our streets.
So how many times did YOU help vote Turdough and his ilk into power?
For those who think sex-offender registries are a good idea, take a good long look backwards into your life and see if you’ve ever been drunk and had a piss in public. I know of at least one person who performed said act and, instead of being charged with the crime of being drunk in a public place, was charged with indecent exposure. Because of the latter charge, he’s now a “sex offender”.
So, while urinating in public is not something that one wants to encourage, the bladder stretching effects of 12 beer coupled with a singular absence of public restroom facilities in Canada make it an activity that drinkers are forced to engage in. Being labelled a sex-offender for such an action is the height of stupidity especially when such a label requires one to register immediately when one moves or face jail time.
The solution to the predatory pedofile is to simply put them among the general prison population and let justice take its course. Having talked to a number of ex-cons, this is the one type of criminal they can’t tolerate in their midst. If Canadian society is too squeamish to eliminate such individuals permanently, toss such criminals into the nearest maximum security prison and the inmates will be happy to help solve the problem.
Yeah, LAS, that’s great.
When your kids turn 15 we can find some nice middle aged gentleman to give them a good shagging just to break them in.
Who knows, maybe you’ll cut out the middleman and do it yourself.
Meanwhile, stay off the playgrounds, my friend.
“The second poster was a party hack. The others,are either thick or pedophiles.”
Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
There is a reason why the “good old days” were actually pretty good.
Harper lives rent free in their heads they just can not let it go. He drops this and off they go.
Dude the “Grey” in my name does not refer to my age, I never voted for Mr. Trudeau. Possibly my mother and grandmother voted for him or his ilk, but i doubt it :O)
Yes what constitutes a sexual offender is horrifying….
The registry in the us does not give a synopsis of the crime and people have no idea what little will get you on it.
Wasn’t there a cross burning in BC some time ago? Is it still a raging inferno?
as usual, the same LIV crowd make the same stupid type comments. I would like to see one of them (or maybe all of them) wind up on such a list through no fault of their own, and then spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to only find that they have no chance of having their name removed from that list
Bill Good is the poster-boy for “Useful Idiot”. He generally works 5 out of 7 days. I think it’s pretty clear his recreational reading is “Superman,. He ‘gobbles up” all the global warming pus. He had a lady scientist on his program today, and he is so childlike when it comes to people with an education. He can’t understand, all the greenies he interview’s depend on warm-ism for their living. His producers must be immature lefties.
Premier Kathleen Wynne and her friend, accused child p0rnographer, Benjamin Levin, helped develop and push a radical sex education program and yet, have not been burned publicly for any of it:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/top-ontario-education-official-and-premiers-appointee-charged-with-making-c
Carry on.
Premier Kathleen Wynne and her friend, accused child p0rnographer, Benjamin Levin, helped develop and push a radical education program and yet, have not been burned publicly for any of it:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/top-ontario-education-official-and-premiers-appointee-charged-with-making-c
Carry on.
Like I said….perverts….
They may come in different flavours but they support each others perversion….
Eli, that is a very slippery slope that you tread, namely.
“The benefits to society outweigh those of the individual, and as such the restriction and revoking of some freedoms/rights to benefit society as a whole win out.”
That statement has been and can be used to justify any government infringement of an individuals rights. The rights of the individual have to be absolute or government encroachment, step by tiny step, will take them all away.
What I would like to know is why PM Harper is getting the nth degree of criticism over this and Wynne and her pervert friend aren’t publicly pilloried?
I think we know why.
I have to echo Al in Ottawa on this. This is exactly the excuse totalitarian governments use to justify taking freedoms away and enslaving the population. “For the good of the people” can become “enemies of the people” very quickly as we have seen numerous times during the last century.
Another bullshit move by Harper to keep his sheeples happy. Concurrent sentences has merit but the only pedophile lists should be of those in prison or dead. In other words…..
Convicted pedophiles need long prison sentences. Repeat pedophiles need to be executed.
Anything less and we will endlessly continue to offer our children up as fodder for sexual predators. But that’s not Harper’s concern, getting re-elected is.
Canadian Observer, very good points. Given the recidivism rate of pedofiles, really the only way of dealing with them is either tossing them into jail and throwing away the key or killing them. Castration and anti-androgens are another option but such methods might “violate their rights”.
What I think is happening in actuality is the statist looking for an issue that most people are disgusted by and using it to pass totalitarian legislation. The prohibition against possession of child pron makes absolutely no sense: it could be used as evidence if the individual who possesses it is in the photographs, but on its own it’s just bytes of information on a hard drive. The real reason for passage of such legislation was to give statists a legal means of snooping on peoples internet communications and searching peoples hard drives. The NSA is apparently now seeding bittorrent movies with kiddie pron images giving police a means of arresting people for possessing illegal materials that they don’t even know they have.
If the problem was sufficiently serious that such draconian measures are called for, then one would expect the perpetrators of such crimes to face the death penalty. Considering their propensity to videotape their sex acts and exchange them with other perverts, they’re basically providing all the evidence they need to convict themselves. The only options they should have are (a) being handed over to the parents of the children they abused, (b) being put in the general prison population or (c) hanging.
It’s time to ask PMSH some serious questions about why punishment for such crimes is nowhere near what disruptions are occurring in society because of the “danger to children”. The presumption that everyone is a pedofile unless they prove their innocence with a criminal records check at their expense is a perversion of justice where it used to be innocent until proven guilty.
A sex offender registry makes a helluva lot more sense than a long gun registry. I have 4 grandchildren of the age for predation by a sexual creep. Absent of specific and substantial consequences should any of my kids’ kids be molested, I’d kill the SOB before I’d see him given a chance to do it to another child.
Bravo on Harper for recognizing that these sickos deserve no respect and that children deserve to be protected.
Shame on those who advocate for the abuser.
The left should agree to let the victims families decide with Sentencing Circles, just like they do for the aboriginals.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1337495
I know how I’d vote.
“So, while urinating in public is not something that one wants to encourage, the bladder stretching effects of 12 beer coupled with a singular absence of public restroom facilities in Canada make it an activity that drinkers are forced to engage in.”
Who knew drinkers were forced to urinate in public.
Self-discipline helps, or is it too much to expect?
Loki >
Great points as usual.
I wonder what Islam will decide what is tolerable or offensive to posses on a computer once the Liberal Left allows them to impose Shari Law in western countries.
I’ll bet the list will be long.
To Be sure Canadians need to guard against government’s access to their private information; on the other hand, convicted violent felons need to be dealt with. So until our Liberal legal system puts them safely away from society the public needs to know where they are.
Loki;
Sure throw them in jail for life or execute them. That makes sense to you and I but PMSH has to deal with the reality he faces. Not only would tough sentencing like that never fly in today’s world but Canada would be crucified by those arbiters of world conduct the UN.
According to the BCTF perverts can be cured and everyone deserves a 2nd, 3rd, 4th … chance.
LASsie said: “They are a continuing indefinite punishment after the sentence is served.”
Gee LASsie, maybe you should explain why this is a -bad- thing? The kids they bugg3r3d have to suffer their whole lives from it, why does the offender get a break?
That said, the list is a stupid idea because its A)worthless for controlling offenders and B) one more thing government officials will punish innocent people with. As Loki said, taking a slash by the side of the road will get you on that list if you have a cop/Crown attorney who doesn’t like you.
Endless jail seems reasonable, since government minions clearly can’t be trusted to do things properly. Its hard to bring an innocent man back from the dead, right? Capital punishment should be delivered by the intended victim when the crime is attempted, or not at all.
CT >
“….Canada would be crucified by those arbiters of world conduct the UN.’
They (The UN) don’t have a problem with China, N. Korea, or Saudi Arabia dealing with thier violent offenders any way they choose.
Just say’n I wouldn’t hold allot of water in what the UN thinks.
Al, you are so correct. I mean, while we’re at it, why not bring back the “Scarlet Letter”? Or get the Jews to wear yellow Stars (not the Hassidic, etc. ones with their long hair and black dress, just the sneaky ones that try to pass among us)? Let’s have every alcoholic forced to wear a martini-glass tatoo – what company would hire such a potential liability? Surely their need for profits outweighs an individual’s opportunity to reshape their life.
Lists/symbols, etc. – it all smacks of pre-crime. Let’s stop hounding innocents who’ve done, or are doing nothing wrong (I’m lookin’ at you, RIDE patrols), and focus on really, truly penalizing the criminals.
Thank God the foaming-at-the-mouth TUFF ON CRIME nutbars here didn’t get their way in the ’80s or there would have been innocent people killed. There were dozens of people falsely convicted of child molestation on the basis of what child psychologists ‘evidence’, whereby the psychologist would implant false memories into the ‘victim’ and the falsely convicted would go to jail. Thankfully they had the sense to keep them separate from the general prison population in case you know something came up like reason to disbelieve the evidence.