41 Replies to ““I Don’t Care, I’ve Got Nothing to Hide””

  1. Priceless!
    Perfectly explains it for Low Information Voter
    And may it spark a twinge of doubt in a few of their fuzzy little brains…

  2. There are just three inches of white space. Is it supposed to be blank? Is it some kind of subtle point? Or am I missing something?

  3. If you have nothing to hide can I install a camera in your bedroom? How about your teenage daughter’s?

  4. The good news is that the same technology that allows the government to stick its oversized nose into your business also allows this.

  5. PRIVATE individuals cast SECRET ballots to elect the PUBLIC GOVERNMENT; so they can spy on you in SECRET, thereby violating the FREEDOM & CONSENT of the GOVERNED.
    What could possibly go wrong; other than turning the country into the “UBER-STASI” police state?
    Nixon bugged a hotel room and they called it “Watergate”, the “OWE-bama-Nation(tm)” bugs the entire world and they call it “Hope & Change”.
    Let’s call it what it is: The ABANDONMENT OF HOPE, to the CHANGE OF TYRANNY.
    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
    US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 – 1790)
    The Revolution of 1776 is now officially dead in Boston’s tea party harbor…as Patrick Henry noted:
    “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
    The “OWE-bama-Nation(tm)” would prefer the electronic concentration camp, as it is sure to extinguish freedom; because, after all, the nation state needs to know what brand of skivvies you wear to cover your nether regions. That is about all the privacy they need to invade, not to mention the TSA agents who cop a feel every time you board an airplane.
    What the government needs is a good boot to the gonads, because they have gone WAY TO FAR…
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  6. Frankly I have a hard time giving a crap about this. WTF did people think the NSA does? And OMG! My facebook/google/yahoo/microsoft isn’t private! Shocker!

  8. I totally agree.
    Off topic … anyone know how to hack into an NSA database to get that girl’s phone number? Asking for a friend.

  10. The UK, USA, Australia and Canada were all part of Echelon. Echelon recorded/monitored phone calls for each other to get around messy things like the CIA and FBI areas of operation.
    The internet monitoring may just be an extension of this. It is all only data after all.
    I saw the UK admit participation of the phone recording, has anyone asked Canada’s government about this yet?

  12. Max said: “Frankly I have a hard time giving a crap about this.”
    Well Max, you may be giving a crap about it real soon when the cops start handing out speeding fines, red light fines, careless driving fines and etc. based on the second-by-second location monitoring of your cell phone. There IS A RECORD of every single second you’ve been in your car for the last few years, and sooner or later some cube-farm cowboy is going to suggest after the fact fines for speeding etc. based on that permanent record.
    There is a permanent record of every cell phone that has entered a particular building too. If they match up credit card bills with that, they can know the name of every single person who EVER went in to Bill’s Gun Shoppe at the corner of Spruce and Bruce in Moose Antler Saskatchewan and what they bought. Or Madame Natasha’s Exotic Massage Palace across the street. Did you get a happy ending? They’ll know if you paid for one.
    We’re not talking about your Facebook page here. This is the complete record of every place you’ve been to, every person you’ve spoken to or even went into the same store with, everything you have mailed, everything you have done on the internet from every private email to every pr0nz site you -ever- looked at, since around 2005. That’s not the potential damage Max, that’s what they have ADMITTED.
    The potential is a complete digital, searchable record of everything you’ve said into or even near an electronic communication device since the 1990’s.
    Giving a crap yet? No? Ok, try this.
    In the same year, you visit a sporting goods shop where you buy gunpowder, a kitchen store where you buy a pressure cooker, Home Depot where you buy nails, and a tailor. It so happens that the tailor was also visited by Mohamed Al Mohamed the terrorist, on a different day than you. But close enough in time that he could have left you a dead-drop letter or other message.
    Some software program connected those dots and now you have the local SWAT team kicking in your door at 3AM. You bought the gunpowder to reload for cheap target practice, the nails were for the backyard deck and you bought the pressure cooker for your sister, so you have “nothing to hide”. Cops are still busting down your door.
    That’s the best case scenario, where the surveillance system really truly is being used for catching terrorists. See if you can imagine them using it to identify, track and punish people who aren’t sufficiently “Christian”.
    How about now Max? You giving a crap now?

  14. First, some perspective:
    From 1946 to sometime in the early seventies, the OSS/CIA opened (and presumably read) every single international first class piece of mail going into and out of the US (according to the seminal book on the CIA – legacy of ashes)
    The gathering of metadata has been approved by the scotus. Many on the right – high Hewitt and Andy mcarthy being two – defend the practice.
    Personally is see the practice as being fine as long as the executive – the WH and the CIA and the NSA – act in an ethical manner.
    And that’s the rub – scum like Obama and company and minions of RMN, LBJ and JFK would think little of using the metadata as a starting point for politically – rather than national protection – purposes.
    I think what is needed is to punish abusers of this access to metadata as a crime of treason – it is after all, a crime against all americans – with punishments that are as severe as possible.

  15. These imbeciles will be the first human fodder swept away in an authoritarian pogrom.

  18. Certainly seems like we are losing the battle against terrorism since we are now being attacked by the administration hired to protect us and the so called vanquished enemy has already won in destroying the freedom we once took for granted. Maybe it’s time to change the National Anthem because the words no longer hold true. If Al Qaeda surrendered tomorrow and swore on the Koran that they will never again attack Americans or their interests, would any of these intrusions by our own people against their citizens be repealed ? I would hazard a guess and say no. They are on a roll and the sheeple are compliant. The hunger for control has now taken on a life of its own and we are all potential enemies of the present administration. Forward.

  19. And that’s what we do every day in several aspects of our lives…
    It’s not fail safe. But it does – without question keep us safer from our enemies than would otherwise be the case.
    If – and for now it remains “if” – the Obama admin tapped into that meta-data for political purposes – including preventing access to Muslim group data – then they should be imprisoned. As I stated above punishment for such actions should be heavily predjudiced.

  21. What the government needs is a good boot to the gonads
    …and just where would you find the government gonads to kick?

  23. If there is one thing that I appreciate it is consistency. I’m wondering how everyone feels about the “other” leak, that by Bradley Manning which has been called the “biggest leak of classified files in the nation’s history.” What I mean is of course, how is it that someone can roundly condemn one and yet very much defend the other(pick your own to defend). I’m asking how are they different, not in detail but in principle? Shouldn’t they both be viewed as the same?

  24. Gord Tulk said: “It’s not fail safe. But it does – without question keep us safer from our enemies than would otherwise be the case.”
    Gord, I must respectfully but strongly disagree.
    Thought experiment: What is a bigger threat to your daily life?
    A.Radicalized hillbillies from Pakistan or the Sudan who barely speak English and whose idea of a weapon of mass destruction is a pot full of nails.
    B. A government who knows exactly who you have talked to and exactly where you have gone since 1995. Plus all the other stuff they already have, like your health care records, driving record, police record, school record, census data, CCTV intercepts, and on and on and on. That’s what we 100% know they already have.
    Its not fail safe. Its 100% UNsafe. These are the same people who continue to persecute Gary McHale for merely criticizing the Ontario government over Caledonia. These are the same people who created the Gun Registry scam, the Ontario windmill scam, Adscam, and every other d@mn scam you can shake a stick at these last 20 years. These are the same people that persecuted Ian Thomson and threatened him with jail for defending his house against a firebomb attack.
    Metadata doesn’t sound like a big deal until you realize a lot of it is cell-tower ping data. Your phone pings every tower within range every few seconds, the whole time that its turned on. Its the exact same idea as the locator bracelet they clamp on the ankles of prisoners, except that it works -better-. Apple reports the ability to locate an iPhone to within -feet-, good enough to know which aisle of the Walmart you’re in. GPS bracelets are good to within yards, so they know you’re at-or-near Walmart.
    Its searchable. You can run a search to see if Gord’s phone has ever been within 100 yards of The Phantom’s phone. You can search to see if Gord has ever been to Tilsonberg Ontario. You can identify every single person who attended any location, be it a building, park bench, fire hydrant or spot in the middle of nowhere. You can identify every customer of the rub & tug upstairs from the pool hall on Dundas street. You can see if Gord Tulk was speeding on Monday June 10th, and if so where, and how much the fine would be. Oh, and for these guys finding out who The Phantom is (or who Gord Tulk is) is about three keystrokes. That’ll get ’em a picture, license plate and present location.
    This is a big deal. Its not in the planning stages. Its done. They’re going on with it RIGHT NOW and have been for quite a while.
    All that to protect me from hillbillies with pots full of nails? Sure, I believe that. Like I believe in the Tooth Fairy.
    And quite frankly, this is something I voted CPC to -prevent-, and here they are they’re doing it anyway. I’d say more because I’m pretty freakin’ cheezed off, but its being archived forever, so I won’t.
    Needless to say, I need to find a new party to vote for, who doesn’t consider it reasonable to spy on its own citizens 24/7/365. That ain’t going to be the Lieberals or the NDPee either, they’re both good with this. Guess we make one.

  26. David, Bradley Manning passed on classified material, including US diplomatic cables and classified US army reports pertaining to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and in so doing put national security and the lives of both American soldiers and foreign informants at risk; it’s a bit like a WWII era US serviceman informing the Germans about the location and arrival times of allied ships. Eric Snowden, on the other hand, released information about the US government spying on US citizens, on US soil.
    Put simply, one is akin to acting as a mole (whether that was Manning’s intention or not) on behalf of America’s enemies, while the other involves leaking to Americans information about the extent to which they are being watched by Big Government in their own country.
    In light of the IRS scandal, which showed a highly politicized administration treating American citizens who hold different political views as enemies, the latter information is valuable to freedom-loving, constitution-respsecting Americans. The information Manning released was/is potentially valuable to America’s enemies.
    It’s a distinction with a difference, in this case.

  27. I thought it was a great video, and she sums up the gist of her video in the last few lines by saying something like Islamic terrorist want to take away our freedoms and the government wants to protect us by taking away our freedoms. Something wrong with this picture.

  29. Ken (Kulak)…bingo.And what the little twit doesn’t realize is the biggest threat to her,and us,is gubermint!

  30. My understanding is that what is recorded is the number called, time and duration. To access this data requires a court order. Actual conversations are not.

  31. That “little twit” knows exactly where the threat is and has a great way of putting it out there. There is a lot of wisdom coming from that cute little mouth. She is talking to her peers who are generally brain dead on this potential threat but are prone to take warnings from someone in their own age bracket. I think she’s great.

  32. Jay: just to be clear, the name “Echelon” is an invention of the media. The program never had a name, and I suspect never will. Likewise, the security clearance to access information from it also does not have a name…you either have it or you don’t, and very few people in Canada have it.zm5qm7

  33. Did not watch the video but she has something to hide everyone does. To all those busy bodies monitoring this site. Good Night and remember the system is monitoring you to.

  34. Subject Obama to same scrutiny. Why doesn’t he lead by example?
    There is no need for this invasion of privacy nor does it do anything to track or prevent terrorism or catch anyone related to it. That was never Obama’s intention. If he was ever a servant for the people, this would not be a going concern. It is, however, one of many things the electorate must remember about him.
    I would like those who voted for Big Brother-in-Chief to own what they so proudly voted for- a police state without the brown shirts.

  35. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/10/cbs-news-u-s-state-department-cover-ups-range-from-prostitution-charges-to-drug-rings/
    “WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – Uncovered documents show the U.S. State Department may have covered up allegations of illegal behavior ranging from sexual assaults to an underground drug ring.
    CBS News reports that is has unearthed documents from the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS), an internal watchdog agency, that implicate the State Department in a series of misconducts worldwide.
    The memo, reported by CBS News’ John Miller, cited eight specific examples, including allegations that a State Department security official in Beirut “engaged in sexual assaults” with foreign nationals hired as embassy guards and the charge and that members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s security detail “engaged prostitutes while on official trips in foreign countries” — a problem the report says was “endemic.””
    Hence if the State Dept. needs prostitutes it is reasonable to assume that they have the reproductive faculties known as gonads…on the other hand given that no one is responsible for the plethora of scandals presently plaguing the US govt. one could reasonably make the assertion that they are all political eunuchs. LORD only knows where they keep the VI*GRA to satisfy all the State Dept. employees supplied with hookers.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  36. Ok, but here a tidbit from 2003, or 4 can’t remember exactly.
    Was training some RC’s (RCMP) and during the lunch break one of them said wait a minute and pulled up my MC (MasterCard) record and showed I was at Walmart and got some toilet paper and other things a couple of days ago, (or was it yesterday?)
    Wasn’t suppose to show me, but hey we were shooting the breeze and I got to know them pretty decent and so he wanted to prove something.
    And he did.
    But that was 10 years ago in Canada.
    So nothing new here, move along.

  39. Yeah well, I recall Morontario’s brief daliance with photo-radar. It is held that this was a major factor in defeating the LIBRANO government and electing the Harris Government.
    Despite a whack of LIBRANO whinning…..photo-radar remains a political 3rd rail in Morontario politics…..even to that favourite rervenue maker…red-light cameras.
    Folks get offended by the speed cop hiding in the weeds….
    This wide-band surveillance is not a small political issue….it just p****s too many folks off.

  40. Welcome to the 21st Century
    *Our Phones ~ Wireless
    *Cooking ~ Fireless
    *Cars ~ Keyless
    *Food ~ Fatless
    *Tires ~ Tubeless
    *Dress ~ Sleeveless
    *Youth ~ Jobless
    *Leaders ~ Shameless
    *Relationships ~ Meaningless
    *Attitude ~ Careless
    *Wives ~ Fearless
    *Babies ~ Fatherless
    *Feelings ~ Heartless
    *Education ~ Valueless
    *Children ~ Manner less
    Everything is becoming LESS but still our hopes are
    ~ Endless.
    In fact I am ~ Speechless
    Not mine but worth sharing. How we turn this around is beyond comprehension.

  41. Gathering all this information is a waste of resources. They say it is to connect the dots. The fact is they rarely connect the dots and when those dots are in plain view for these so called intelligence agencies they seldom act on them.
    I do not wish to sacrifice what privacy I have left to fight the implied threat of terrorism when the agencies charged to to do so perform so poorly.
    Take the case of the Boston bombers. They knew these guys which is why we found out so much about them so quickly. Why? Because they already had the information at their fingertips and failed to act.
    If we allow this vast intrusion into our privacy to happen, the terrorists have won and ironically we are creating the intrusive and tyrannical society that they aspire to.
    In the meantime, protect your privacy.

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