In The Immortal Words Of Tasnim Aslam* – “Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence”.
The top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee says Thursday’s hearing on Islamic radicalism could be used by terrorists to inspire a new generation of suicide bombers.
Thursday’s hearing on Islamic radicalism could be used by terrorists to inspire a new generation of suicide bombers.
~some top donkey
This top donkey better get a body guard because he has just ignorantly dissed the prophet Mohammed and the Koran with this statement.
No hearing held by infidels is ever going to inspire Islamic radicals to terrorism more than the prophet Mohammed and the Koran.
. “New York Republican Rep. Peter King says the focus on the Islamic community is appropriate because Islamic terrorism is the primary threat facing the U.S.”
Hm, the Republicans seem to differ with the Democrats on this file.
Obama should just enact Sharia law and get it over with. The slow death of the American way is too painful to witness.
They’ll be nice to us,really.
One thing I truly hope out of this:
That these hearings will finally break the back of political correctness which would in turn provide muslims the message that the United States will back and protect them if they come forward with information and will hunt down and prosecute the homegrown terrorists and their leaders.
Right now, their silence is deafening and lack of collaboration is very troubling…
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breaking: university of ottawa police
open fire on saudi… wait a minute…
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Rapists rape and Terrorists terrorize, that’s just the facts, but let me get this straight. If you suggest that how a woman dresses might draw unwanted attention from a creep, then you’re a Neanderthal; but, if you suggest a dialog about Islam might draw unwanted attention from Muslims, you’re a progressive thinker. Hmmmmm….
Fcuk Islam!
Right Honourable Terry Tory: “That these hearings will finally break the back of political correctness which would in turn provide muslims the message that the United States will back and protect them if they come forward with information and will hunt down and prosecute the homegrown terrorists and their leaders. Right now, their silence is deafening and lack of collaboration is very troubling…”
So it’s not enough for Muslim Americans to be law-abiding citizens? It’s somehow now incumbent on them to police their own communities and actively fight “home-grown” terrorism?
If so, why aren’t all Italian Americans expected to root out the Mob? Why aren’t all Hispanic Americans expected to tackle the Mexican drug trade? Why weren’t Irish Americans expected to fight the IRA?
Terrorists need little reason to do anything. Whether the hearings were held or not, homegrown terrorists would still be planning car bombs, ect.
For the longest time, the public at large has pretended that Islam is rosy and nothing bad would happen at all. We’ve never had the luxury of really believing that now or then. If Muslims don’t want to be labelled as terrorists, they can clean house. We can help by having their back. We won’t accept extremism and neither will anyone else.
Don’t accuse Daddy of beating up Mommy or he will do it again! Sorry, this is a
Oops, pushed “Post” too soon. Sorry it was a bad analogy. Should have deleted. My apologies.
Those Islamic terrorists need absolutely no words from anyone to encourage them. They will quite happily blow their own and our asses to oblivion with or without comments or words from anyone. What they should be meeting about is how do we identify said terrorists before they detonate so we can shoot them or something before they do the dirty deed.
Paul Szabo is our man.He’ll get to the “bottom”of those “_slamist” terriers…
The soft arse, was all a-twitter trying to grind Mulrony down. A true mans man …yick!
funny, that the left are too thick to see the irony in their own response…
Careful, because the religion of peace will want to blow us up for looking into reasons why they want to blow us up…
Davenport
mmmm…yes they are! If you’re aware of criminal or treasonous activity it IS your responsibility to do something about it. The silence from many demographic groups (not all racial demographics) causes great harm to those who are terrorized in their own communities. This has a disproportionate effect on the women of these communities.JMO
BTW, this expectation would also apply to a white Muslim. This isn’t about race, it’s about the likelihood of having helpful information and who would have such information.
Islam is a religion of pieces, fingers, toe’s, arms………………….
Math – 85% of the worlds 1.3 billion Muslim’s are “moderate” = _________ who are not!
Of those who are “moderate”, what percentage feel entitled to western land and culture by their own cultural ideologies, Islam or otherwise? How many are simply offended that westerners don’t accept their status within their cultural cast system?
The CHRC is the weapon of choice for the “moderate” Muslim to crush everyday Canadians who do not accept the Islamic grand scheme of things. When that fails, the “non-moderates” take on the task.
If so, why aren’t all Italian Americans expected to root out the Mob? Why aren’t all Hispanic Americans expected to tackle the Mexican drug trade? Why weren’t Irish Americans expected to fight the IRA?
~Davenport
I agree with you Davenport that Islam is like the Mafia, Mexican drug trade, and the terrorist IRA all rolled into one.
(I like your analogy)
I’d like to point out, though, that Islam isn’t a race like Italians, Mexicans, or the Irish, but unlike the Mafia, Mexican drug trade, or the IRA: Muslims are born into Islam and their penultimate role model, the prophet Mohammed, was indeed a very bad man just as though he was in the Mafia, the Mexican drug trade, or the IRA.
Nice rebuttal Oz.
Here’s Fear. Where is Hope?
The “fired” objects turned out to be “rubber bullets”, says MSM. Yup.
“Fear is building and looks like there is a good deal of rotation out of stocks into Treasuries,” said Thomas Roth, executive director in the US government bond trading group at Mitsubishi UFJ Securities (USA) in New York.”
Friday is AlMoh’s “Day of Rage” in Saudi land.
Stay tuned.
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“Dow tumbles below 12,000 mark after Saudi police fired on protesters”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/markets/wall-street-shares-slumps-on-saudi-arabia-crackdown-fears/story-e6frg91o-1226019506310
http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2011/03/10/wisconsin/#comment-148084
More loopy liberal logic, if we discuss Islamic terrorism it will cause them to become Terrorists. Yea that’s some illiberal logic all right.
Oz: “I agree with you Davenport that Islam is like the Mafia, Mexican drug trade, and the terrorist IRA all rolled into one. (I like your analogy)”
It would help if you actually understood the analogy. I’m not comparing the Mafia, the Mexican drug trade or the terrorist IRA to Islam, I’m comparing them to radical Islamic terrorism. The fact that you can’t tell those two things apart is your loss.
Indiana (far away from) Homez: “mmmm…yes they are! If you’re aware of criminal or treasonous activity it IS your responsibility to do something about it. The silence from many demographic groups (not all racial demographics) causes great harm to those who are terrorized in their own communities.”
As it happens, Muslim Americans are already the single largest source of tips that have brought terror suspects to the attention of US authorities (sanford.duke.edu/centers/tcths/about/news_release20110202.php).
I’m not comparing the Mafia, the Mexican drug trade or the terrorist IRA to Islam, I’m comparing them to radical Islamic terrorism.
~Davenport
Islam is an extreme radical religion.
All of it.
The prophet Mohammed was a terrorist.
All Muslims strive to be like Mohammed or they aren’t doing Islam properly.
The word “Muslim” means one who submits to Islam as invented and defined by the prophet Mohammed in the Koran and Hadith.
It really is that simple.
The fact that you can’t understand that is your loss.
There is no radical Islamic terrorism, there is only Islam.
Your reference at 6:29 goes nowhere useful.
Do you not know how to link the information directly?
Davenport – “As it happens, Muslim Americans are already the single largest source of tips that have brought terror suspects to the attention of US authorities.”
While I didn’t find that specific nugget of information at your link, it did report that tips from Muslims “led to a terrorist plot being thwarted in 48 of 120 cases involving Muslim Americans.” Okay, good. But then of course, since pretty much no other “community” is actually producing much in the way of terror suspects…
Davenport>
I agree with you Davenport, Islam is like “The Mob”!
Start deporting Muslims and close the borders to all Muslim Immigration, student visa’s, and outgoing aid to Muslim countries.
I’m sure you would stand with the German chancellor and UK Prime minister in saying that “Multiculturalism has utterly failed”! Muslim immigration has spearheaded that failure and it’s time to reverse the trend before it’s really too late.
Davenport
[………If so, why aren’t all Italian Americans expected to root out the Mob? Why aren’t all Hispanic Americans expected to tackle the Mexican drug trade? Why weren’t Irish Americans expected to fight the IRA?…….]
They are stupid. Not reporting known criminal activity is a crime….assessory before and after the fact.
You started it when you hit me back.
suicide vests, huh?
I know where there’s a few gravel pits they can go to and test their vests for, fit, comfort and function.
This gets back to Kate’s point that failure to riot is a failed conservative policy. Leftists aren’t used to groups which actually use violence openly and they haven’t a clue how to handle it. Back in the old days, the mafia would gun down prosecutors it couldn’t bribe and terrorize people enough so no-one would dare go after them. Organized crime now seeks a more peaceful “businesslike” image and might explain why a lot of them are ending up in jail.
The best thing that can happen is that we piss off a lot of islamofascists and they make good on their threats. In the US, they won’t get very far unless the US government starts going after Mormons if islamofascists blow themselves up in crowds of people.
Indiana – I recall Shelly Winters in her autobiography said that those strappy little heels she used to where when they went out on the town were called her FM shoes. Don’t need much of an imagination to figure out what that stood for!
Davenport says: “It’s somehow now incumbent on them to police their own communities and actively fight “home-grown” terrorism?”
You betcha. First, if the Islamofacists are bringing so much disrepute to the greater community within which they swim, it is incumbent on ‘good’ Muslims to cast them out by any means necessary.
Secondly and more importantly, Islam is by it’s ver nature antithetical to free will. The Quran, hadiths and suras are Gods divine word, not subject to individual interpretation, adaptation or personal understanding.
So ‘good’ Muslims (well integrated Canadians) are actually ‘failing’ in their faith because they have decided for themselves that like Catholics, Baptists and Mennonites, their faith is tempered by their own experience and the application of their faith within their social/cultural context.
OTOH, what a good percentage of Muslim believers considered to be ‘good’ Muslims are those who see the Quran as inseparable from how they live every aspect of their life, regardless of geographic , social or cultural context. For them, we are all infidels who must eventually accept subjugation and shariah.
The former ‘good’ Muslims are welcome in my neighbourhood, but I expect them to help me identify and get rid of the latter ‘good’ Muslims who have no interest in me other than as a potential convert or absent that, a jizya payer and slave.
Re: Davenport’s comment above.
This from a piece a jihadwatch:
Steven Emerson: Muslim groups like CAIR, ISNA, and MAS, not Rep. King, are responsible for fomenting hysteria.
Last paragraphs:
Critics have taken issue with King’s focus on one religious minority. But, in fact, in previous years, Congress has held numerous hearings into various ethnic subcultures that have spawned illegalities – including the Italian mob, Hispanic drug cartels, black and white prison gangs, white racists and neo-Nazis.
Headlines about King producing “panic” in the rank-and-file Muslim community are nonsense. The only panic is that being strategically fomented by groups with an interest in spreading fear. They, together with their mainstream media friends, have falsely alleged that: one, there is a war against Islam by the United States, and two, the FBI is secretly instigating Islamic terrorism by use of informants.
These are dangerous fictions.
Lest people like Jess and Davenport think the idea of the Ummah is all a joke – these people are as serious as a heart attack:
http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/the-khilafah/structure/338-council-of-the-ummah-majlis-ul-ummah
From the Council of the Ummah
“It is forbidden to force non-Muslims to convert to Islam but they are forced to live under the system of Islam as dhimmi. Living under the Islamic system is the best dawah for them as they witness for themselves how Muslims conduct themselves in economic, politics, judiciary etc . This is not oppressive and you should not be ashamed of the Islamic conquests that took place simply to make Islam sound pleasing to the ears of non-Muslims. We have a distinctive way of life that can be proved to be from the Creator Allah (swt). Once this belief is in place and someone submits to the will of Allah (swt) ie becomes Muslim then they accept whatever the sharia determines as good or bad regardless of their inate biases. Any arguments you want to be bring must be based on the sharia texts.”
Me No Dhimmi: “But, in fact, in previous years, Congress has held numerous hearings into various ethnic subcultures that have spawned illegalities – including the Italian mob, Hispanic drug cartels, black and white prison gangs, white racists and neo-Nazis.”
I have no problem with Congress looking at the problem of radical Islamic terrorism in the US. My issue is with people — like Right Honourable Terry Tory, and No Guff — who say that otherwise law-abiding Muslim Americans somehow bear a special extra responsible to deal with homegrown radical Islamic terrorism, any more so than any other law-abiding US citizen.
With the Italian mob, we expect everyone to report criminal activity if they encountered any, not just Italian Americans specifically. Likewise, with white racists and neo-Nazis, we expect everyone to report criminal activity if they encountered any, not just white Americans specifically. And so on with any other type of criminal or terrorist activity associated with an identifiable group.
But that’s exactly what many people, here and elsewhere, are expecting with Muslim Americans and Islamic radicalism — that Muslim Americans specifically need to actively address the problem in order to prove their loyalty as American citizens.
It’s not surprising that this is happening, just sad. After all, it continues a pattern of demonizing and overgeneralizing one’s perceived enemy — whomever that may be at any particular historical moment — that literally has been repeating itself for thousands of years. You might think that we’d have learned something after all this time of making the exact same mistakes, but no, apparently, as is always the case, this time it’s different.
Davenport, you’re just trying to hammer out a point where one doesn’t exist. Of course anyone regardless of race, sex, creed, orientation, religion, skin-colour, height, immigration status or taste in salad dressing should report possible terrorist or organized crime activity to the authorities. Muslims are the only people likely to hear about potential Muslim terrorism through the grapevine. Likewise, Mennonites are the only people likely to have come across any info on Mennonite terrorist activity, and it is their duty as patriotic citizens to bloody well report it. Let me tell you, if there ever is any Mennonite terrorism, I fully expect some Mennonite to report the heck out of it. If they start pulling some kind of Mennonite omerta cr@p, I’ll be the first to cry “shannanigans!”.
Honestly, Davenport, I never really agree with you but you are smarter than this. Smarter than lame bromides about “learning” and “percieved enem(ies)” and “overgeneralizing”.
Black Mamba: “Let me tell you, if there ever is any Mennonite terrorism, I fully expect some Mennonite to report the heck out of it.”
Because they happened to heard about it and a law-abiding citizens, not because they are Mennonite per se.
It is one thing to say that the people most likely to hear about Mennonite terrorist activity are themselves Mennonites. That much is likely to be true.
It is an entire different thing, however, to say that all Mennonites are therefore expected to actively fight Mennonite terrorism in order to demonstrate their loyality to the US, and that failure to do so can be taken as an indicator of their tacit complicity in said terrorism.
It’s a subtle distinction, Black Mamba, but while I never really agree with you either, I too believe you are smart enough to recognize it.
Davenport said: “If so, why aren’t all Italian Americans expected to root out the Mob? Why aren’t all Hispanic Americans expected to tackle the Mexican drug trade? Why weren’t Irish Americans expected to fight the IRA?”
Uhm, they -are- expected to do these things when they come to live here. And historically, immigrants from these places have done exactly that.
However lately we’ve been treated to the open fundraising efforts by all kinds of off-colour outfits like the Tamil Tigers, eagerly supported by Tamil immigrants here in Toronto but also by our very own Liberal Party.
The distinction being Davenport, that as bad as the Tamil Tigers are, (and the old IRA, the Sicilian Mafia, the Mexican cartels etc) they do all their dirty work back home in Sri Lanka. The Islamists do theirs -here-. WE are their enemy, not some other bunch back in the Old Country.
So as usual, you are attempting to obfuscate things because you just can’t stand the idea that people must be called to account for their actions. The concept of duty must drive you bananas, girlie.
Muslim Canadians -must- contribute to the security and safety of Canada the same as the rest of us, it is their -duty- to do so as Canadians.
Credit where credit is due, so far Muslim Canadians have been very forthcoming with the authorities about militants planning things. We have to date had zero successful Islamic terror attacks here in Canada due almost entirely to Canadian Muslims dropping a dime on @ssh0les they hear planning things in mosques.
So Mr. King of NY calling on American Muslims to do their DUTY as Americans is not out of line. Failing your duty deliberately most definitely is “tacit complicity in said terrorism”. This call to duty is long over due.
Like 20 years overdue, pretty near. The sonsabeatches blew up the WTC the first time in 1994, King’s hearing should have been 1995 the latest. Except Slick Willie decided to just sweep the whole thing under the carpet.
The Phantom: “Muslim Canadians -must- contribute to the security and safety of Canada the same as the rest of us, it is their -duty- to do so as Canadians”
Yes, the same as the rest of us. That’s the reasonable expectation, right? No more, no less?
That’s what I said Davenport, and that’s what I meant. I also said that here in Canada, Muslims have indeed been doing their duty as one would bloody well expect them to. In The USA however, not so much if results are anything to go by.
However as the results have as much to do with deliberate and pervasive -sabotage- by Democrat politicians and civil servants (remember The Wall, Davenport) I’m happy to cut Muslim Americans some slack.
Except for the Ground Zero mosque. Those guys need to be tared, feathered and run out of town.
Bottom line Davenport, if the enemy of all is hiding in your group y’all need to work harder to dig him out, because your group is the only people who can.
There’s nothing wrong with A) saying it and B) asking one particular group of people to up their game.
Besides, it isn’t as if these jihadi creatures are careful not to kill Muslims when they pull their atrocities, is it? Self preservation, anyone?
Davenport changed his point and pretends it’s a super subtle point only he can detect; he didn’t realize other people will point their finger at their own side.
I don’t trust the leftards.
Liberalism is a brain disease.
Apparently Davenport has no concept of the responsibility of any organization or entity to ‘police yourself’.
If you’re a lawyer and another lawyer is egregiously and consistenly behaving in an unscrupulous fashion, you have a greater duty than ‘non-lawyer’ citizens to demand said lawyer straighten up or get out. Why? Because otherwise he/she will bring disrepute to the profession, fairly or not.
Muslims know what goes on in their mosques while non-muslims do not. If they see their local Imam prosletyzing in ways that are antithetical to Canadian vales they have a greater duty to speak out because they are privy to that knowledge.
To suggest that Muslims have no greater duty or role to play in ferreting out and condemning radicalism is simply silly. Human nature determines that greater suspicion will fall on their community if they identify more with the Ummah than with Canadian society.
Like it or not, underlying self-preservation is the question: are you with us, or are you with them?
Davenport, your percieved moral high ground will not keep you safe if Islamization remains a rising tide.
If you want to see sharia go to Britain or Canada.
That’s what being progressive results in.