See? Canadians are embracing our new multicultural mosaic – right up to our judiciary.
While she’s on probation, Magomadova can’t own weapons and will undergo counseling for depression. She’s also been ordered to attend anger management classes.
Because, as Whoopi Goldberg* might say – we know it wasn’t murder– murder.
Indeed. “I have always maintained that if Robert Latimer had let his wife start the truck nothing would have happened.”
“..but decided against jail time saying that would be more about vengeance than justice.”
If I ever find myself in front of a judge I hope I can use this.
No justice with our Canadian liberal infected “judiciary”
She should have been deported
I have a lot of trouble with this.
Without getting unnessassarilly morbid…….
Asphysia/strangling is not an instantaneous event. In practice 2-3 minutes….not a spur of the moment thing at all.
Murder is defined as “with malice aforethought”.
Due to the protracted time involve the opportunity to cease and desist is present.
In practical terms, this “mother” had ample opportunity to cease and desist and did not opt to do so. IMHO this falls more into homocide than manslaughter.
This not an act of ommision or negligence……
Boy, once news of this tough sentence gets back to Chechnya, i’ll send a chill through any immigrants who think that Canada is a haven for criminals….
What absolute mockery of justice! Aside from the obvious sex-bias of the judiciary, the focus on the murderer as victim instead of the murdered as victim is particularly mind-boggling.
The defence that won the day: The murdering mother lost her husband in Chechnya and her son has a terminal illness, therefore she should be absolved of killing her daughter.
.Un.be.lievable.
3 years probation…..
So.. How many other daughters does she have an opportunity to strangle?
note the religionists are all in favour of the wet noodle.
which begs the Q, if right wing extremist fundamentalists are all from the right wing, how does SDA square this? hmmm? how do you reconcile that the Jesus-is-the-only-saviour, aka the-buybull-says-it-so-I-believe-it gang are so soft on crime?
curious minds want to know.
I have always maintained that if Robert Latimer had let his wife start the truck nothing would have happened.
It is quite possible that one has to have a mind for it to be curious.
Mark Peters and trappedintrudeaupia say it well.
Damn straight, Speedy.
Speedy
[….I have always maintained that if Robert Latimer had let his wife start the truck nothing would have happened…..]
Yup. Like the guy who assaulted his wife by beating the ****** out of her hand with his face.
A male with a restraining order against his X is likely to be arrested if he calls the constabulary because she is busting in the window….
Beem there…….
Issue free scarves
What a crazy upside down country Canada is.
It hands out next to nothing sentences for criminal activity by Women and non-whites and throws the book at non-homosexual White males.
Doesn’t she have a severly disabled son? Ergo the only mistake Latimer made was killing the ill and severly disabled child, I guess if you fit into a special Minority group you can kill your healthy kids with impunity. Latimer was the victim of a witch-hunt, organizations and activists representing the disabled went after him with utter venom.
There are days I hate what the leftards have done to this nation.
“The judge rejected self defence, but decided against jail time saying that would be more about vengeance than justice.”
Someone needs to hang the victim’s corpse around this black-robed retard’s neck to remind them that justice is about compensating the victim for damage. Eye for an Eye tooth for tooth, life for life.
Isn’t that what multi-culturalism is all about? The right of all individuals to believe that all other beliefs and peoples are inferior to their own? Of course girls are dispensable, if the mother’s belief system says so. Who are we to judge who she can kill, or own as a slave?
Ouch, tongue got stuck in my cheek there for a moment. We’re Canadians, and that’s why we can tell her what to do if she comes here. It’s called “the law”, and “justice”, and it’s supposed to be blind.
Whatever happened to prison being a punishment? I guess as long as this wasn’t an honour murder everything is alright.
This women was having trouble with her daughter and the daughter wound up dead. This woman has a terminally ill son, when will SHE determine that he is too much trouble??
There had better be an appeal of this . . simply appalling.
Maybe the judge thought she was Native Canadian?
“To be kind to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent” Adam Smith a Scot said that 250 years ago.
This must be appealed another Trudopeian mind fart.
The message is: a little bit of murder is OK.
will this set a precident in the courts for Honour Killings?
In a discussion with my grandson,late term abortion came up.He was in favor of it for all the usual reasons.I said that I agreed with him,in fact I sais that a mother should be able to kill their children up to the age of consent.He was taken aback by my statement.I said it to show him the slippery slope but I didnt realize that we had reached that point in actual fact in our judicial system.
Gay marriages, murdering your kids with impunity, sex ed to kindergarten children, reverse racism, rewriting history, these are all wonderful ideas brought to you by the left.
I have always felt that when a judge does something like this he should be forced to house the person in his own home for the duration of their probation.
From time to time at SDA, the question comes up as to whether or not Harper is sufficiently conservative enough. Incidents like this should remind us of the alternative.
This McGill Alumni site indicates that Sal J. LoVecchio was appointed Justice of the Court of Queen’s Bench for the Judicial District of Calgary, April 1995. McGill University. 1995: Cretien appointee.
Additionally, the Vancouver Sun mentions the word that some reports are self-censoring.
Magomadova, a Muslim, admitted at trial to having a deadly confrontation with her troubled 14-year-old daughter Aminat at their home on Feb. 26, 2007.
According to this judge, punishment equates to vengeance equates to an injustice. During those probation years one MAY reflect upon having killed someone while on vacation somewhere.
God love this judge for teaching me about justice.
“Magomadova can’t own weapons”
Did no one tell the judge she used a scarf to kill her daughter?
UN. FRIKKIN’. BEE. LEE. VA. BULL.
At least we won’t have to pay to feed her in prison. But we’re going to have to pay for her anger management program and her counselling for depression.
I’m with TJ: Have Magomadova move in with the judge and his family or into the house next door and make him live with this criminal.
I figure that I, of British heritage and a Christian, were to strangle one of my daughters, I’d be looking at a prison sentence. “Justice” in Canada is a total joke. No wonder so many international criminals and misfits want to come here.
We might as well put up billboards in foreign countries saying “Criminals/Misfits of the world! Come to Canada, where the mean streets are just waiting for you! Bring the people you hate and kill them — for free! You’ll never see the inside of a prison! We’ll pamper and back-rub you, counsel and coddle you, all at the hard-working taxpayers’ expense! We’re such nice, multicultural boobs, we’d LOVE to give you a Canadian passport! Come one! Come all! Walk all over us and watch us smile!”
Kyrie eleison.
The judge actually applied Sharia law to this woman, not Canadian law.
The daughter shamed the family and therefore the mother had the right to do this.
This is the beginning of what Sharia will do to this country.
The decision in this case may be legally sound but it is also morally bankrupt. It speaks to the moral corruption of the entire ruling class. This includes not only the judiciary but an entire class of people indoctrinated by the universities which are dominated by “progressive” values.
What we are witnessing is the result of 70 years of a Gramscian inspired “long march through the institutions”. He was a Marxist, of course.
Whether they, or we, realise it or not, our ruling class’ world view is Marxist dominated. And don’t think that your own world view is not, to some degree, contaminated by this too.
Those of us who are old can only look back with chagrin at the direction of the cultural tide.
If you fall into a fast tide you cannot do nothing or it will take you to your doom. If you try to fight against it you will fail because it is too powerful.
In fact, for my generation, our biggest mistake was to try swim against the tide. What we should have done was to swim with the tide and use our strength to get out ahead of it.
I am quite old a will die soon. Any insight that I have gained in this matter comes under the category of “too soon old and too late smart.”
For those of you who are younger I can only say: Use your energies to get out ahead of them. You can’t out muscle them. You are going to have to out smart them. The ballot box can only do so much. You are going to have to embark on a “long march to reclaim the institutions”.
Don’t waste your time trying to subdue the big institutions. Go after and reclaim the thousands of small “Societies and Foundations”.
An excellent and extended essay on this subject: America’s Ruling Class and the Perils of Revolution by Angelo M. Codevilla is up at the American Spectator.
And here is the lovely Rona Ambrose stating that we all must speak out about “honour killings” and defend young people in these muslim and other religious families that will kill or injure them. Guess this POS judge didn’t get the memo yet or probably as a liberal elitist he sees the bigger picture far beyond our peasant eyes.
It is always the daughters that are beaten down, bagged and closely watched, wonder why that is?
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Tory+minister+continues+speak+against+honour+crimes/3283649/story.html
I read this little book* twice. Soon, thrice.
* “Private Production of Defense” by private property anarchist (anarcho capitalist) Hans-Herman Hoppe.
“She testified Aminat never really adjusted to life in Canada …”
It is also obvious her mother has not adjusted to life in Canada too, kick her out now!
Dave – I also noticed during that press conference that they stated that there were a dozen or so “honour killings” in the last 10 years. I suspect the actual number is WAY higher. There were 7 young women killed last year in the Kingston/Gananoque area alone.
This MUST stop. If you are not going to live by the laws of OUR land, then go the f**k back to where you came from. Or even better – don’t come here in the first place.
Deep breaths, blood pressure down….
Oh, and they can take that judge with them.
Many things come to mind reading this article.
First, regarding Kate’s point, I said this a few weeks ago: If you’re a woman and you’re going to be murdered or raped, hope its by a white-guy, else you have little hope for justice.
Second, so for the protection of Canadians this woman can’t “own weapons”. For someone who murdered her daughter with a scarf, the ridiculousness of this restriction goes without saying. If we ban all of the scarfs, people will just start murdering with mitts! Perhaps we should be looking at the murderers, not their weapons of choice eh?
Finally, the judge “rejected self defence” as a defense; yet, “decided against jail time saying that would be more about vengeance than justice.”
What a bunch of isht! Justice and vengeance are not mutually exclusive. Justice would be this woman’s head on a stake for all to see. THAT might make people think twice!
“The devout Muslim mother claimed Aminat came at her with a knife in the sewing room where she prayed several times a day.”
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Suspended+sentence+provokes+outrage+killer+Calgary+mother+avoids+jail+time/3284889/story.html
an appeal is said to be in the works…
You guys miss the point. It was actually a love killing. It took 2 1/2 minutes to kill her. It was done because we all know the “Religion of the sexualized” Would never murder for Islam.
Thought for the day. If this where any other group except Muslims, what do you think would happen to this Womyn?
For some comparison to the Robert Latimer case, where it was widely reported in the media that the judge in that case had no option but to find for 2nd degree, and that the minimum sentence for this crime was life in prison with a minimum of 10 years before parole.
http://www.robertlatimer.net/letters_and_articles/tracy_and_eloise.htm
Perhaps if they opened safe Hijab exchange centers in Muslim areas these young women would not put themselves in a position where they deserve to be killed to regain the families magnificent Muslim Honor.
Is there any consideration for a “long scarf registry” in Canada or would that lack the requisite respect for Islam?
Sadly, this doesn’t surprise me at all. A lot of the people I went to law school with were already disconnected from the real world and years spent thinking and living in a manner detached from practical realities has made them worse.
I suspect this judge would be shocked to learn that anyone thought this sentence was was the least bit wrong.
This CBC link:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2009/09/14/calgary-trial-magomadova-mother-daughter-murder-charge.html
Is attached to BlazingCatFur’s post on the story. It goes on in some detail about how the daughter was a bit promiscuous (who’s the judge of that?) and maybe took drugs and once – at the age of 13 or 14 – assaulted a teacher.
Blaming the victim. We’ve all heard of that, right? And it’s a bad thing, right?
If a child in early-to-mid adolescence is emotionally disturbed, as this girl seems to have been, it is almost invariably because her family is severely messed up.
In my reading, this nutty Magomadova woman screwed up her child, murdered her (how could this killing possibly have been a “beating gone wrong”?), and basically got away with it because she’s Muslim. She’s dysfunctional trash who happens to come from a culture where child-murder is not necessarily frowned upon. And our justice system tries to understand/is terrified of said culture.
Rev. @1:19 – “love killing” or “love crime”: the logical extension of the “hate crime” concept. Good coinage.
anne (not from cornwall), I am sure you have talked to people about islam as I have and most believe it is just a religion that when they spend time in our society they will embrace our ideals. My friends on the left refuse to see the danger of islam even though they read what is happening in Europe and around the world and now see hijabs everyday and burquas throughout Toronto in muslim areas.
You are right in thinking the number of “honour killings” is way underreported as it is in the UK. How can any woman wear a hijab, closed shoes, long sleeves and long pants and walk beside her man wearing shorts, sandles and golf shirt in Canada and not question why?
So why is it that the words devout Muslim are missing from all of the Canadian media reports of this case? First time I heard of it was after reading a Fox News item. Seems like my “honour killing” comment earlier(@10:15) wasn’t that far off.
Texas Canuck, … “devout muslim” is included in todays Calgary Herald link I provided above, as well as information that the knife armed victim intruded the muslima’s prayer space / sewing room.
I don’t know if intruding a muslim prayer space is part of the defense. In yesterday’s newspaper coverage of this, “muslim” or “islam” wasn’t included, today there is only the one mention of it, with “devout” as if that is supposed to imply “very religious” or pious? I don’ know, it all stinks.
yeah, I’m surprised too…
This is not the least bit surprising. Female, member of protected group, progressive judge, hell yeah she gets off.
Why do we think there’s all this CRIME going on in our cities? Because this is what happens to them when they do crime: nuttin’!
“..but decided against jail time saying that would be more about vengeance than justice.”
That says it all, this judge sees justice as being all about punishment and nothing about deterrence.
This was another ‘honor killing’ but since it was committed by the mother and not a male member of the family it was OK ? The Canadian Justice Business is a travesty.