| For all the media victory dances claiming widespread public support for enviromarxism, there’s nothing quite like a trip down to the grocery store to restore one’s sense of reality. |  |
Because, so long as consumer demand keeps this Reigning Queen of Supermarket Super-Packaging on the shelves, I contend there’s
little to worry about.
As the numbers show, vehicles with a rating of 30-plus miles per gallon have suffered a dramatic drop in sales. For the first five months of 2010, sales of vehicles with that 30-plus MPG rating have dropped by 10 percent compared to the same period in 2009. Overall, these high-efficiency cars accounted for four percent of the market in 2009, but now only hold a three percent share.
Heh. We’re winning.
Considering that 2009 was a bad time for auto sales, it is worse than a 10% drop. That 10% is compared against a bad year. When you look at the market share, sales of these vehicles is down 25% … 4% to 3%.
Trev
Bubble packing the twisty bulb. HeeHeeHee!! Inhale the Hg from the one you broke tying to get it out.
I think this is likely coincidence not correlation regarding Kate’s “we’re winning” comment. In my view, stable gas prices at under $1 per Litre, or in other words “the market” is responsible for a drop in the sales of such cars. After all, if you take away the financial stick, who’d want one of these mini-cars?
This is why it’s imperative for the American government to distort the market. If you consider the governments assurances to the auto manufacturers that the demand would be there, and after all but forcing them to build the high mileage vehicles; one can see that the governments very survival depends on tax extortion at the pumps, to drive the demand for these vehicles. The vehicles the government told the manufacturers to build.
Rest assured that once Barak and company pass their Carbon tax, and the price of gas rises back to 08′ levels or higher; those cars will become popular again.
There is allot at stake for this government with regards to the Carbon tax.
Those vehicles are unpopular not because they are fuel efficient, no.
They are, because who wants to pay $18K before taxe$ for a Fit or Prius, when one can get a Civic for just as much, but that would be actually a vehicle, not a tin can death trap???
It might be funny to bash fuel efficiency, but in your rage you are forgetting that higher demand results in higher gas prices. I am paying for your truck driving habits.
“we’re winning.” Sure, destroy the environment, after all we only live here. Humans have to be the most self-centered, hubris filled members of the animal kingdom there are. Who cares about the environment, humans will destroy themselves, unfortunately wiping out hundreds of other species and ecosystems in the process.
“I am paying for your truck driving habits.”
I’ll go right out and idle it in your honour.
And then, I’ll find a gopher to two dimensionalize in your name, T.
See how it works? Every time you post a comment, a rodent dies.
“Heh. We’re winning.”
Yeah, because excess garbage and wastefulness is a good thing.
T, it’s actually the other way around.
The plants are slowly killing us and committing suicide by depositing carbon from the atmosphere into the ground. If we’ll let the plants to continue that way, Earth will turn into another Mars.
We have to reverse the process and burn C into CO2 just to survive. You are barking at the wrong bush.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/heartland_conference_establish.html
Long, but excellent article over at American Thinker, summarizing the collapse of AGW. Forward it to your friends.
> I’ll go right out and idle it in your honour.
That will be in your honour, unless someone else is paying your gas/diesel fuel bill.
Aaron
Free market Aaron, suck it up princess. What else would you like to dictate how much of and what I can purchase to suit your needs?
T
since we’re only destroying the environment in your imagination, I can simply say “GOOD”.
Furthermore, nobody has yet been able to explain to me how mine and my kid(s) lives are negatively effected by the extinction of the Do-do bird. So screw the birds, bears and pu$$ies. Yeah I meant you T!
Our local town council just passed a bylaw effective July 1st/2010 that the maximum allowed bags of garbage per household per week will be two standard 75 litre bags. Any number over that or larger bags and the household will be charged $2.00 per bag and that charge will be applied to their water and sewer bill. Same applies to a person taking garbage to the land fill, a fee will be collected at the gate. This is a proactive measure and I am happy to see it implemented. Reduce, reuse, and recycle.
> What else would you like to dictate how much of and what I can purchase to suit your needs?
If you were right, there would be no such concept as education.
T,
Your favoured measure will only result in increased dumping in the community and extra co$t to the taxpayer, i.e. you. But your attention span is too short to see it coming.
Hmm, I’m in the market for a new vehicle, shall I buy a small economical import or a HEMI powered car made in Canada? Choice is good.
So T’s town is acting just like T, T recycles and reueses the samll old arguements post after post.
Yet somehow T hasn’t leared to reduce It’s trolling regardless the number of time’s we’ve pointed out the error of It’s ways.
(I refer to T as an “It” because I do not know T’s gender, “It” is a catch all, fitting for male, female, eunuch or anything in between.
If you were serious T, you’d be advocating for the abolition of income tax in lieu of a consumption tax. IF, you were serious about conservation.
Al
it’s acceptable in English to apply a generic “he” when the gender is unknown, regardless of what the Femzoids say.
Here in the Comox valley we have curbside garbage, recycling and yard waste pickup. Garbage & yard waste is weekly and recycling is bi-weekly. So we have these standard garbage trucks, diesel powered, picking up the unsorted recyclables. Drive 20m, stop, pick up recycling, drive 20m stop, pick up recycling, all day long, 5 days a week. These diesel trucks are working at their most inefficient way possible and are spewing carbon into the atmosphere. The recyclables are taken to a sorting depot. They are then shipped by truck to a central location and eventually end up on large ships going to China, India etc where the product is recycled, (likely in an environmentally damaging way) Then the products made from this are shipped back to us by carbon spewing freighters to fill our stores with more junk that ends up back in the recycling bin. This doesn’t make sense.
What Mike said.
If people were truly serious about conservation, they would decry materialism and use well-constructed products made in their own country. I find the people who clamour the most about “green” causes waste things like there is no tomorrow. How many non-fair trade soy lattes in paper cups were consumed in the brightly lit atmosphere of some Star Bucks establishment with pretentious jazz music blaring out and all typed on a laptop made in China for some silly blog?
Throwing out fees is just another way to get money. If someone had a more efficient plan for garbage collection, I’m sure he would be ignored because it wouldn’t line someone’s pockets.
“Humans have to be the most self-centered, hubris filled members of the animal kingdom there are.”
I hope your including yourself in the “self-centered, hubris filled”. Humans have the ability to make the ultimate sacrifice in the name of nature: walking into the woods and killing one’s self. And yet so very few environmentalists are truly committed.
The dirty little secret of environmentalism is that there are a few billion to many people, and their ultimate end goal is to reduce the population, yet they are never very keen on sterilization or ‘early life termination’ when its their friends/family on the chopping block.
If I could afford a Ferrari Enzo (8 mpg combined) I would own one, and I would happily drive it.
I also care about the environment.
I don’t see these two things as mutually exclusive.
T apparently is BTJ too…Kate’s pet troll.
T’s alright with Guvments living off trash by taxing it. Two sets of rats are involved when it comes to garbage: Govments and the rodents at the land fill.
Here in Ontaxio a few years ago, the population fell for a McGuinty trick where he put a 0.5 tax on all bottles of booze and wine (Beer had it for decades like everywhere else). If you want your 5 cents back you now have to drive to a Beer store to exchange the empties. Most large cities in Ontario already had a recycle program where these bottles were put in. Most people I know don’t bother returning these as it’s not like beer. Wine and especially booze bottles are less frequent.
Guess who’s making money off something that was mostly already working for the environment?
The first set of rats.
Ontarians did’nt even shrug a shoulder…
I can’t understand why t would be bragging about those municipal standards. we’ve been adhering to a much stricter set of standards – ex. one bag a week – for years. This means I am the self-righteous environmentalist, and t is a low life hypocrite. Right? At the very least, he should be petitioning his council for a one bag limit.
“Heh. We’re winning”
So says King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia or Hugo Chavez. Nothing says success like puting petro dollars in your enemy’s pockets.
“Here in Ontaxio a few years ago, the population fell for a McGuinty trick where he put a 0.5 tax on all bottles of booze and wine (Beer had it for decades like everywhere else).”
What are you talking about; it’s a 20 cent deposit – and nuissance too.
Kind of makes you want to drive by T’s house with your pick-me-up truck and add a garbage bag or two to his pile.
I live on the outskirts of a community, like T’s, that charges per bag for garbage. Their sanitation department is regularly called out to the countryside to pick up the droppings from their eco-friendly citizens. But, I am sure it makes everyone there feel really proud for helping the environment.
T What town do you live in? You have proof of this policy? Just curious if its true or you are just blowing better than thou hot air.
“I’ll go right out and idle it in your honour.”
Wow…are people seriously calling such irrational and childish actions ‘winning’. Good for you, three cheers for managing to do the opposite of what is rational…Yay to not thinking!
What is so amazing about using way too much packaging? How hard is that to accomplish? How
much human ingenuity does it take to over package some crappy preserved food? Just so it can get buried in the ground..the landfill, another amazing feat of human accomplishment (HA!). Praising mediocrity is one the deepest evils in todays world.
What would you worry about anyways? What scares you people so much about human advancement?
Do whatever you want…I’m not suggesting that anyone should take away anyone’s individual rights…what I am suggesting is that people start to rationalize and think rather than relying on faith in a certain opinion to guide decisions. Strive to be better, don’t praise mediocrity.
By the way, a honda civic is very fuel efficient..it’s the decision to drive a truck or SUV when you don’t use it like a truck or SUV that is irrational.
Don’t worry…. The drugs and chemicals in fast ‘food’, junk ‘food’, prepared ‘food’, and consumer items in general, causes cancer, lower male birth rates and more birth defects. The problem will solve itself. Your great grandchildren will mine landfills for the resources, and likely pray to Allah five times a day when they’re not cursing you for the mess you made of the planet.. The future that the uber-consumerist society is creating won’t be pretty.
Osumashi Kinyobe: I didn’t think my entry needed translation. Send me your e-mail address and I’ll forward my future posts to you for editing and clarification.
mike
“.it’s the decision to drive a truck or SUV when you don’t use it like a truck or SUV that is irrational.”
Un-controlled, irresponsible marketing causes a dumbed-down population to do the irrational, all in the name of increasing profit and the growing attitude of “Phuck the future, what did the future ever do for ME?”.
“Un-controlled, irresponsible marketing causes a dumbed-down population to do the irrational, all in the name of increasing profit and the growing attitude of “Phuck the future, what did the future ever do for ME?”.”
Nice name by the way. I think it even goes deeper than this. School doesn’t teach you how to be rational, it teaches you to try and fit in with the crowd and memorize tasks…which leaves you waiting for someone to give you a job so you can buy all those things that make you like everyone else. I don’t think people even really think about the future enough to say phuck it.
And we are on the cusp of winning big time.
Over the next ten to fifteen years much of our trucking industry to what is now super-cheap, practically unlimited natural gas. Think 30 cents a litre gas/diesel equivalent taxes all-in. As 70% of our oil use currently for transport we can expect a collapse in the price of gas and diesel inthe mid to long term.
Make mine a 2011 300c (Chrysler) 400 HP 400 ft lb with an 8 speed trans and AWD. – still gets 30 mpg at 125 kph.
“I don’t think people even really think about the future enough to say phuck it.”
That’s pretty evident by reading your mess you put on display here.
mike – at the risk of translating for Osumashi Kinyobe, her “what Mike said” expressed agreement with you, and what she wrote subsequently was not an attempt to clarify anything you said. (It’s an idiom, see.)
As for BTJ, I suppose it would be futile to beg everyone to ignore him the way we should be ignoring T, whom he may or may not in fact be?
Sorry, Mike. I thought I had agreed with your assessment.
I am in the same boat with Gus.
Living on the outskirts of Brampton and observing dumping along all major roads leading into the farmland.
I actually caught one of the enlightened environmental types dumping on a farmer’s driveway and signed an affidavit for his prosecution. Hoping he paid close to the maximum $5000, not something like $20.
Guess what – Brampton has a 2 bag limit AFAIK (unless changed to 1 bag recently – I dunno, I am not affected) and charges $4 for taking stuff down to a processing plant.
It is apparently too much for the population which supposedly supported the above measures. They prefer to risk being fined. It is really too bad the farmers can’t shoot the dumping crowd with sniper rifles.
yeah, saving gasoline is bad. Only environmentalists want to save gasoline. I like paying out the @ss for fuel. Maybe if we all burn a little more then we can increase demand to the point that they set up a few more offshore drilling rigs.
And we will keep winning until rerality sinks in to the eco fascists as long as i have a say …..
I am in the market for a f-250 7.3 ltr diesel 2000-2004 or an f-350…either or i have herd good and bad about the 6.0ltr diesel of that same year and yes i am serious if you know of one or have one for sale let me know . or an old 1950-1970 big block chev truck full size .
Paul in calgary.
As a conservative, I try to avoid wasteing anything.I will reuse or recycle as much as I can.
I think most conservative minded people share that distinction.
It’s the new enviromentalists that seem to be the wastefull ones.They have the bigger house,the fancy hybrid and take more vacations than I do.
I would think that being self sufficient would create a smaller footprint than relying on a bloated governmaent.
150 litres a week? How many Kraft Macaroni boxes is that T? My city states you cannot put a lot of things in the trash including lawn clippings. You can pay to have a second green container for yard waste. Compost is compost no matter where and how long it takes. Most ignore the rules and save the truck an extra trip.
FYI…. I’m not a he or a she – as a pre-op transsexual, I prefer to be referred to as a Heshe. Thanks in advance. And go environmentalists – you folks rock. Only cheap right-wing idiots illegally dump on the roadside instead of paying that extra $2 when they cannot restrain their impulses to commit acts of fundamentalist consumerism.
ohhh “T” would you just shut the hell up and go away ….i pray that they screw up your sex change and turn youi nto a well hung manly man …and pump some conservative blood into you and turn you into a gun totin ,right wing conservative freedom loving woman loving sex machine with no testicles or well as they do in .L.A. with dog’s now fake plastic testicles so you at least feel like a real man . maybe you can see what us right wing warm blooded people see.
you dipsh%t!!!
Paul in calgary.
The plastic testicles thing was soo you can’t actually reproduce cause we really don’t want to deal with you all over again in anther generation….leave that to the real conservatives .
Paul in calgary
Yeah, Kate, go let your truck idle, that’ll sure show’em. I promise to be more amused that you think you’re making a point with such a ridiculous and costly antic; an antic that only results in you refuelling before me. Can you let it idle for a really long time? I want the $$$ you’re wasting to really add up.
Letting your truck idle because you support copious oil extraction is like saying that you like guns and will therefore shoot yourself in the face to prove it.
Smalldeadminds, I reckon.
It’s all good though, because you’re “winning”. Silly lady you are. LMAO.
I live in Richmond Hill, just north of Toronto. We have a four bag limit; after that, you pay $2 a bag. However, we only get pickup once every two weeks, so it effectively is two bags a week. We also have three recycling bins – one for bottles, one for paper, and one for organic material. It doesn’t bother me; once you take all bottles and paper and organic material out, two bags are plenty for me.
And Mike – sorry, I disagree with you. Cans and paper are recycled by Ontario firms. Considering the amount of electricity used to smelt bauxite (let alone the energy needed to mine it), recycling cans probably saves energy. Aluminium mines are not conveniently placed next to large cities, so the finished product has to be trucked in big, carbon spewing (to use your term) trucks to factories. I think the trip to the recycling depot is shorter. Same thing with paper; it’s probably cheaper to recycle than it is to log (although logging won’t stop; some high quality papers can’t be made from recycled fibre).
And really, what makes more sense? To throw your garbage in a hole in the ground, or to make useful products from it? I agree with Rob – doing more with less is my motto. I studied engineering, where that’s our goal. I think fighting recycling is just stubborness.
“Over the next ten to fifteen years much of our trucking industry to what is now super-cheap, practically unlimited natural gas. Think 30 cents a litre gas/diesel equivalent taxes all-in. As 70% of our oil use currently for transport we can expect a collapse in the price of gas and diesel inthe mid to long term.”
I think the long-term energy source for transportation will be electricity. I could see natural gas being the next fuel though, taking over the role of gasoline sooner than later.
“As a conservative, I try to avoid wasteing anything.I will reuse or recycle as much as I can.
I think most conservative minded people share that distinction.
It’s the new enviromentalists that seem to be the wastefull ones.They have the bigger house,the fancy hybrid and take more vacations than I do.
I would think that being self sufficient would create a smaller footprint than relying on a bloated governmaent.”
What a great comment. A true conservative view for a change. It’s not the ‘new environmentalists’, it’s the type who need to be up with the latest trend (fit in) and don’t really think for themselves. The type with more money than sense…they have no philosophy…they just listen to the loudest voice.
Re-cycling is a scam for the most part.I agree with Kevin to a point. Cans make sense. There is no market where I live for cardboard, glass and stuff. Even most of the newspaper is chucked. Where the scam comes in is ‘environmental’ charges. A dime for a plastic bag at a hardware. Fees on milk cartons, paint cans, oil changes and the list goes on. They used to supply those things as part of the cost of doing business. Did your oil change place drain into the street? Nope gubmint takes another slice of the cake.