Those dogs weren’t screwing those old people – they mauled them to death.
“You are more likely to killed by a bolt of lightening than by a dog,” said Adam Goldfarb, a spokesman for the Humane Society of the United States. “It’s one in millions.”
There have been at least 20 deadly dog attacks in the U.S. this year, 22 in 2008 and 33 in 2007, Goldfarb said, compared with about 75 million owned dogs. Many dogs that turn vicious aren’t necessarily pets but kept for hunting or breeding, or as guard dogs.
Dogs that attack also typically are not spayed or neutered, which can contribute to aggression, Goldfarb said. He said it’s likely the dogs in the Georgia attack weren’t sterilized.
Canine ticking time bomb – how long before she kills?
The Humane Society of the United States – now using dead bodies as propaganda billboards. Do yourself and your pet a favour. Don’t give these animal rights zealots your money, unless lawyers are among your favoured charities.
What is wrong with you lot this morning – no one have their coffee before they posted? You’re going at each other over inanities and missing the point…
They were WILD DOGS – ergo, NO OWNER to spay or neuter them. Moreover, Kate’s attempting to point out what has happened to the human society – they’ve gone so left wing that common sense has deserted them. Wild dogs will act more like wolf than your neighbor’s Yorkie not because they haven’t been spayed or neutered but because they are wild and you’re now food.
Additionally, as Kate illustrates with the picture, hunting dogs (i.e., labs, golden retrievers, spaniels, beagles, etc) cannot be arbitrarily labeled as aggressive (it’s a none too veiled shot at the hunting community).
Decades ago in La Ronge, a pack of dogs savaged and killed a little girl who was playing in her back yard. When dogs are not looked after and left to run wild, they are no longer your little backyard pet. These were just mongrels–no particular breed and not owned by anyone. Until that event, it was quite common for uncontrolled dogs to roam the streets of that town.
goodomens. Kelly insulted a several times before she apologized. To me that makes the apology quite phony.
Jonesy. That’s a typical rich kid comment. Someone insults me, I hit back and now I’m trash because I’m not from your side of town.
How about this. Jonesy you’re a moron. Jonesy your parents are cousins. Jonesy I didn’t mean to offend you. Sorry. See all better.
“Wild dogs will act more like wolf than your neighbor’s Yorkie… because they are wild and you’re now food”
There are no – as in zero – recorded instances of wolves hunting and killing people.
They haven’t just “gone left wing”.
The Humane Society of the United States isn’t a humane society at all.
They’re an activist group that runs no shelters, focusing almost exclusively on drafting anti-breeding legislation, organizing breeder “busts”, etc.
gord: Your inferiority complex is hanging right out there.
Black Mamba: who made you central scrutinizer?
Kelly: I kinda agree with your first comment.
Wild dogs are a good reason for concealed carry especially for seniors.
I own a cat, dogs are far too needy, they smell bad and they bark.
Mornin’ all.
Dogs are dogs. To ban a breed of dogs is wrong. I’ve seen bad dogs of just about every breed there is on earth. Some of those little suckers are extremely mean but, being small, are overlooked.
Also, a dog’s loyalty is to its pack. It is only loyal to a human it perceives as its pack and its loyalties will change if its pack is defeated or destroyed, or else the dog will die. This is animal nature and people have named it loyalty but it is really just a commitment from the dog to stick with a pack that provides the necessities of life for it. These are not human emotions from a dog, they are instincts that evolved to benefit their survival in a pack.
In my opinion, a good dog is one that will never bite a human no matter what. There are reasons that dogs bite but there are no excuses. This is the same opinion I have on human criminals. There may be reasons that they commit a crime (poverty, abuse, etc) but there is no excuse.
I agree that we have to hold owners of dogs responsible for their dogs’ behavior. In the case of wild dogs, use guns to humanely dispatch them.
“Aggression in a hunting or guard dog is basically an important character trait, so yeah, these type of dogs aren’t spayed and neutered.”
~Oz
some of you guys need to stop pretending that you know about dog breeds and do some research.
Hunting dogs bred for aggression?
Oh boy.
~the bear
Where did I say they were bred for aggression?
The second difference in a hunting dogs training is the training goal itself. While it is desirable to almost completely remove aggressive behavior in a companion animal, it is advisable to leave some of this instinct intact for hunting animals. The reason behind this is simple. These animals spend long hours and sometimes days in the field and may encounter danger from wildlife or even wounded prey. Also the first time your untrained dog hands you a squirrel that is stunned and not completely dead, you will understand the reason for leaving the aggressive instinct in the animal.
FROM
http://information.i-love-dogs.com/dog-articles/dog-training/3650.html
I could give you more links, but some of you think you already know everything.
I have 2 gun dogs, American Water Spaniels.
They are aggressive, high spirited dogs, even in old age.
Posted by: Kate at August 19, 2009 10:45 AM
That is exactly what they are.
Hmmm…humane society – dogs killing seniors….Obama’s new health care plan. Obama says he’s humane but wants to kill seniors (or a least have them plan for their own demise, a least once every 5 years) using the Dr’s as dogs for his humane approach. Ppl thought Obama was a golden retriever – apparently he’s a pit bull.
What is up with Obama putting his age as 52 on his myspace page. Does it make him more “senior like” thought he was born in 61 and just had a birthday. Perhaps he is baiting birthers.
Momar @10:55 – “gord: Your inferiority complex is hanging right out there. Black Mamba: who made you central scrutinizer?”
I can’t remember, but I pass my powers on to you; you seem to be getting the hang of it.
Looks like this thread is going to the dogs… badda boom!
Not-stirred-enough’s endorsement of fellow Hamiltonian gord, speaks volumes.
Momar, why would you need a “concealed” weapon? Just put a holster on the walker let it hang out there and maybe scare away human curs too.
With the exception of Disney creatures, any animal gone feral and especially with packs are beyond domesticating.
Posted by: Jason at August 19, 2009 10:41 AM
**Wild dogs will act more like wolf than your neighbor’s Yorkie… because they are wild and you’re now food”
There are no – as in zero – recorded instances of wolves hunting and killing people.**
Jason you bleeped outa turn and have forever lost your credibility.
That nonsense is an urban myth, as valid as CO2 AGW. Our literature is rife with instances of wolf attacks….from proverbs like “The boy who cried wolf” to old favourites such as “Peter and the wolf” to “Little Red RidingHood”.
These were based on fact.
Prior to the introduction of firearms, wolf attacks would regularly destroy entire villages in Eastern Europe.
Feral dogs are much more dangerous than wolves because they have little or NO FEAR of humans.
I have it on good authority that a .25 auto is not much help against an attack by feral dogs…..recommended—-a rifle of at least .30 cal or 12Ga with AA buck.
The problem is you are dealing with a 4 legged Kamakaze…..wounding is just not sufficient.
A surveyor was killed by wolves in Saskatchewan about 3 years ago, just weeks after another wolf attack that was successfully fought off when help arrived.
And by the way –
Certain commentors cease and desist with the personal insults now.
>By the way, the Inuit would kill any dog that was aggressive to human beings in order to breed that trait out of their working dogs. So there is a requirement for aggression in dogs.
Kate at 10:45 a.m.
You are so right with that comment!!!
And the best piece of advice I have seen for a long time is “TO STOP GIVING THEM MONEY” and that includes taxpayer money.
er…that would be *stats* of Neo’s. (typed too fast. sigh.)
Now I’m certainly no expert on dogs and I can’t comment on whether or not one breed is more aggressive than another. However, the most vicious and anti-social dog that I have ever encountered is our chihuahua, especially if he’s eating. He’s been like this since birth and no amount of love and attention can adjust his bad attitude. Fortunately his bark is obviously much worse than his bite. Cesar Milan would have his hands full with this one.
Interesting that Gord “asshat” works in a neighbourhood with mostly pit bulls, un-neutered and on long leads or running free, but he doesn’t say that he’s ever been attacked by any of these dogs. So what is it Gord? Are you just some sicko with a phobia of dogs?
hamilton went to the dogs long before the pitbulls arrived
and why are all the fools picking on gord for pointing out a valid observation on dog/human charater mix????
In fact, the “pack mentality” seems to prevail in human relationships too. Witness the attacks on Gord by writers who had nothing to do with the initial skirmish.
“The Humane Society of the United States isn’t a humane society at all.
They’re an activist group that runs no shelters, focusing almost exclusively on drafting anti-breeding legislation, organizing breeder “busts””
That’s quite true. For those of you interested in a humane society, the American Humane Society is a completely seperate organization that deals with animal welfare and not the PETA type crap.
Jason: well-known case of morning jogger killed – and eaten – by wolves on Long Beach.
gord – sasquatch got it: who needs a .25? 12-bore safer and more efficient, and totally legal. 😉
I lived in St Catharines some time ago, at the time the old pound was replaced with a spankin new one. this was aroundabouts 1988.
but apparently sumbudy at the lincoln county humane society warn’t pleased with the new digs because it had a rather mysterious fire and burned up soon after.
some people are never satisfied.
“Wild dogs will act more like wolf than your neighbor’s Yorkie… because they are wild and you’re now food”
There are no – as in zero – recorded instances of wolves hunting and killing people.
Posted by: Jason at August 19, 2009 10:41 AM ”
Yup,Jason.You lose this round,buddy.
Besides the surveyor Kate mentioned and the jogger…between the year 851 to 0600 hrs,Feb 18,2009,there have been 4411 VERIFIED killing and consumption of humans by wolves. 80 % were prepubescent children, 16% women, and 4% men.
Posted by: batb>
No offence batb. Was just light humor to make a subtle point.
Although I have never found any personal use for the “little rodents” I used to have a great Border collie/ Healer cross that was the most amazing animal I have known.
Never fenced, never wandered the community, never barked, responded to hand signals for communication, great with kids, and a natural bird hunter. Very sad at it’s untimely demise when it was 8 years old.
The Glengarrian>
“And the best piece of advice I have seen for a long time is “TO STOP GIVING THEM MONEY” and that includes taxpayer money.”
The climax of the issue! Hence the left loves their socialism, where you have no say in where your taxpayer money goes. It goes where they want it to go.
You earn it, they take it, and then they spend it. A little like Bono aid to Africa.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/18/new.zealand.dog.bbq/index.html
How do you like your mutt,rare or well done?
No offence taken, Knight 99.
I’ve heard that border collies are the smartest dogs (they amaze me) and next to them are … poodles! Poodles are also bird dogs; they retrieve birds shot down in the water — or, at least, that’s what they were bred to do, thus the crazy “hair cut,” to keep their body heat in.
Our little guy never had a poodle cut and used to look like a mini-sheepdog. He’s gone now, too.
Sigh. I still miss him.
Michael H Anderson, Justthinkin
Mea culpa.
That’ll teach me to believe the National Geographic chanel…
National Geographic has a similar love affair with sharks as it does with wolves and other top tier predators.
Have you ever met a grizzly bear or timber wolf in the wild?
No?
Then why would you miss them if they all became extinct?
I canceled my subscription to NG when I could no longer avoid the conclusion that they’d become a print organ of the environmental movement. Plenty human-hatin’ in those pages now.
Oz – wonder who really believes these asstard pseudo-stats about extinction rates anyway? What, there are millions of field biologists out there doing headcounts of every one of the known 1.6 million species on this planet (rough guess of about 12 million as yet undiscovered, new ones found every day)? Nonsense. Here’s what I suspect happens: a new species is found in the rainforest, maybe not abundant to begin with. Some masochist of a zoologist devotes himself to living out there as funding permits, and observing this critter, notes that habitat loss seems to be affecting it. One day he can’t find the teeny beetle or fungus any more, and he reports an extinction.
Two problems: he doesn’t KNOW it’s actually extinct, and (surprise surprise) he doesn’t have the resources to observe the entire Amazon rainforest to find out. It’s just been (he observes) extirpated from whatever minute region of the forest he did have the resources to observe.
What happens next is the really stupid part: statisticians decide as a result of such reports that “25 (or whatever) species are becoming extinct daily.”
On the other hand, it might just be a colossal ugly lie thought up entirely by the Green Ministry of Truth.
You’ve got to keep the dogs away! You’ve got to keep the dogs at bay!
Posted by: Oz>
“Have you ever met a grizzly bear or timber wolf in the wild?”
Yes.
and we should miss them when they DO become extinct. Remember when that day comes, Calgary will resemble a little Mumbai India. How nice.
gord speaks the truth about north hamilton, even if he’s a bit steamed. Try walking off burlington street at night sometime, and then come back and let’s chat.
And a .25 isn’t doing squat against an enraged pitbull or rotweiller, sorry. You need a .357 with good aim, or if you had a 9mm you’d better empty at least a half-dozen or more into him. Even then, I’d drop the mag, reload & blow a few more holes, just to be sure.
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