Elizabeth “Tanks On Parliament Hill” May As Environment Minister?

Six senate seats for the separatist BQ?
Premier Wall, you need to be calling an emergency meeting of your cabinet to draft whatever legislation it takes to protect our resource industry from these crackpots – now.
Contact your Sask Party MLA here.
Update via Bourque “BREAKING: BC Premier Gordon Campbell denounces Coalition putsch: “Stand back, think of Canada !” …”

210 Replies to “Elizabeth “Tanks On Parliament Hill” May As Environment Minister?”

  1. Dont feed the Troll’s
    They are making the rounds in record Numbers
    Yah iam talking about you KenB

  2. “Even if the West separates you people would still hate the government.”

    Mike’s probably a Liberal or Dipper or some other class of moron, but he has a point.
    What’s more, we would hate it for much the same reasons.

  3. Layton sees Obama the socialist getting into power in the United States based on lies, deceptions, and omissions, and he figures he should be able to so himself. He probably figures the twit, Dion, will fail as leader, and his narcissistic self will assume the role of Prime Minister of Canada before too long – his ultimate goal.
    Canadians certainly didn’t vote in a coalition of socialists, wannabes, and Canada-haters, so what makes those members of Parliament think Canadians have lost confidence in the Government when Canadians overwhelmingly voted in the Conserative Party and not them?

  4. Consumer strike, right now.
    Suspend all purchases of non-essential goods and services. This will minimize GST revenues flowing to this Frankenstein being bolted together in Ottawa.
    My wallet is closed until we have an election.

  5. The GG has to reject this document to form a coalition. It cannot concevably work on behalf of Canadains’ interests since one of the parties did not run nationally and whose stated intention is seperation. To allow the Bloc to be part of this coaltion and having the balance of power is like a legislature in one province passing bills that take affect in another. While the 3 main federal parties do not have representation in all parts of Canada, they did field a slate of Candidates from each party, giving Canadains that choice on the ballot. The Bloc were not on any ballots in any part of Canada outside Quebec therefore they have no authority – moral or otherwise – to be given this type of power on behalf of the rest of us.

  6. I already hear from friends in Ontario that Albertans and Harper are to blame really, for wanting a triple E senate (as if that was the issue). We hear more of the “tanks” and “soldiers in the streets” issue. No I stand by my remark: a LOT of Onations despise the west. And if it were just taken for granted that we are better and more sophisticated this putsch would have no support.

  7. “My wallet is closed until we have an election.”

    I’m not sure that’s terribly effective, but if it was organized and ably lead into a public protest it could help a lot, especially if it got publicity and popular sympathy.
    At least you’re not advocating tax evasion, i.e., crime.
     

    “The GG has to reject this document to form a coalition.”

    That would be nice.

    “To allow the Bloc to be part of this coaltion and having the balance of power is like a legislature in one province passing bills that take affect in another.”

    But optimistic.

  8. “My wallet is closed until we have an election.”

    I’m not sure that’s terribly effective, but if it was organized and ably lead into a public protest it could help a lot, especially if it got publicity and popular sympathy.
    At least you’re not advocating tax evasion, i.e., crime.
     

    “The GG has to reject this document to form a coalition.”

    That would be nice.

    “To allow the Bloc to be part of this coaltion and having the balance of power is like a legislature in one province passing bills that take affect in another.”

    But optimistic.

  9. The whole of this coalition is not so much to get rid of the Conservative government as it is to get rid of Harper.
    Scott Reid gave away the game when he mentioned that the objective is to kill Harper. Notice that he didn’t say kill the Conservative Party, or even kill this particular government.
    The whole coalition idea, as I mentioned before, is built on quicksand. I doubt that many Liberals truly buy into the idea. But it does have a purpose: to try to drive a wedge between Harper and his caucus, and hopefully humiliate him into resigning. Then he can be replaced with a more pliable leader like Peter McKay.
    The role of the MSM in all of this cannot be underestimated either. Their rabid partisanship is almost overt at this point. They hate Harper too and want him gone because he mostly ignores them. He does little to brush their egos and they resent it bitterly.

  10. “I am from Ontario — for more generations than there has been a Canada. And I must tell you westerners — Albertans especially — something. We despise you.” by Ken B.
    This is true – an Ontarian actually speaking the truth….Good Lord mark the calendar.
    When my son was attending University in Ontario, a lone Albertan boy who stood up when all those from Alberta were asked to do so, as each province was asked, and he was mercilessly booed. We had just moved to Alberta, so my son stood up for our previous residence, but he was totally amazed at the hatred expressed for Albertans.
    It is called envy – the east has always hated the west because we are successful, and they are not.
    I’m all for separation….where do I sign up?

  11. I’d rather spend $30 million for an election that would provide needed stimulus in several hurting sectors of the econmy than have the coalition spend $30 billion of our tax money on a hasty stimulus package that may not work.

  12. Joanne,
    Layton is only doing his job, which is to get into the the PMO. For Layton to become PM he must get rid of the Liberals. He has been assailing them from the outside for several years with little effect.
    But things have changed big time for Jack.
    Dion has now opened the door and invited Jack in, who can now start eating the Liberal beast from the inside. Think of Alien
    After the separatists (both Quebec and western) Layton is going to come out the biggest winner in all of this. The Conservatives, depending on how they play their cards, can come out winners.
    For the Liberals there is only shame and decline in their future.

  13. SYF,
    You seem to see the point without actually seing it.
    Ontario voted in 1/2 conservatives then you ask “what about toronto.” That’s the other 1/2.
    It isn’t Ontario that are the f’ing wankers – it’s Toronto. Dump Toronto, and we’re to the right of BC, SK and MN.

  14. “No, learn your lesson. Ontario despises you, sad to say. ” Ken B speaks for himself.
    Speaking as an Ontarian, I like Westerners just fine. Twits like “Ken B” are whom I despise.

  15. Agree with Dennis.
    I’m still waiting for Iggy or Rae to come riding on the proverbial white steed and rescue the Liberals from the treason of Dion, who would throw Canada under the bus and bed with the Separatists.
    Then I wonder if either of them is actually that smart.

  16. “I’m all for separation….where do I sign up?”

    You realize, Joanne, there’s a not insignificant chance a boy from Ontario would kill your boy from Alberta if a separatist movement gained hold and your son joined or was pressed into service?
    I know that sounds harsh, but it’s also true, and could be so for many mothers. Think carefully.

  17. Posted by: Christoph at December 2, 2008 3:49 PM
    Straw man bub. Naw, same infected boil on our collective rump. Telling people to take a percoset, a couple of shots of vodka and to just chill out isn’t gonna cut it. This ain’t the Canada of 1965 anymore. The population is less pliant, the media is finally refining its’ peddling of emotion in the information age, and the Gen Y’s and below are disconnected and singularly driven for self.
    As to your second point? Same difference. A majority of Westerners don’t want to separate.
    Not yet. But as I said, it is an inevitability. Whether 10 years, 50, or 100, it is an inevitability.
    Explorers, settlers, pilgrims, and others left Europia to seek freedom, liberty, and opportunity from the old ways of old europe. Whether vestiges of serfdom, hereditary lineage, or good old fashioned patronage and butt kissing, those who came to seek a better life sought to escape from the repression and pre-defined stations in life that were determined by others.
    That drive will never be suppressed. Even if we run out of land running away from it. Thus, a war will begin.

  18. ian vaughan – because the leadership contestants all have publicly declared that they support the putsch and coalition.
    bartf – yes, it seems that the cabal has gone totally insane. Our Senate, already a corrupt haven for Liberal patronage-appointees – is now, not to be reformed and made democratic, but made corrupted even more, as payments for political sycophants and deadbrained followers. Six seats for the Bloc. That’s giving seats to a party not to the person; and a party dedicated to separation from Canada.
    A seat for Elizabeth May, in return for urging her voters to support the Cabal.
    Are these people stark raving mad? Is there something in the Ottawa water? Have they forgotten that we are a democracy and that they can’t take over our government and set up a fraudulent unelected govt, bent on using our money to bribe and buy support?
    christoph, please help me. Take as a premise that I have ‘no sense’. You say that the coalition is legal; that it’s constitutional. Please help me. I cannot find anywhere in our constitution anything about a coalition, legal or illegal. Please cite the Canadian constitution and tell me where it talks about coalitions. Thanks.
    Jose- coalitions are not a fact of life in democracies unless their governmental structure operates that way – as in Italy or Israel, etc, where they have proportional representation and many parties. In these cases, the party with the highest votes/seat count, gets the right to form the govt, which it does via coalitions.
    This is not the case in other countries, which use the Westminster system of democracy or the US style. In these cases, the party with the most seats/members elected gets the right to form the govt. Period. They do not set up a coalition. And this has nothing to do with a minority or majority; just, the most seats.
    But, this putsch is now moving into the realm of pure insanity. Handing out Senate seats as plum rewards, setting up its plans to reward its unionites with taxpayer money. All, all, without the will of the electorate, and indeed, ignoring that will.
    And why? Just over a fiscal update that asked for financial restraints within the govt, the civil service, and the political parties who refuse to raise their own funds and prefer to feed off the taxpayer? But this was planned long before any mention of these restrains, long before. The tactic was to be used on ANY financial Motion put to the House – it had nothing to do with the Motion, but with the Agenda of using a financial Motion as a means to take Power.
    Insane. And frankly, evil. We are not a third world nation of oligarchs taking over our government. We are a democracy and the government rests on the will of the people. We did not vote for a coalition. Each of us voted for a separate party.
    For example, in one riding in Toronto, you had Peggy Nash NDP running against Gerard Kennedy Liberal. Against each other. Not a coalition. We did not vote for them both; we voted for one party only.
    And we do not want to be a colony of Quebec, which is being made into the Imperial Emperor of Canada, with the lone right of allowing Motions to be passed or not. We are not a colony; we are a free nation.

  19. Well my little friend Christoph, I must tell you that my children are adults – probably much older than you. All are extremely well educated – in lucrative positions and pay high taxes that are going to support your schooling. Not to worry I have no influence on them anymore.
    As for you, your prove from you statements you are uneducated and ignorant. Won’t respond again

  20. A Newfie here.
    A great many people and the MSM are saying looking at total vote from the last election supports a coalition
    The Conservatives cannot be taken down by the Liberals and NDP alone. Most Canadians don’t want anything to do with the NDP or Layton. Fewer still want anything to do with May. Most do not want Dion. The Bloc is a separatist Quebec party. Very few (no real Canadians)Canadians want them. This is a coalition of people that no one wants except the Ultra Left. The GG has to see this.
    The Canadian people must be shown how far to the left this coalition must be in order to survive. I don’t believe most Canadian realize what this coalition will bring. I hope to see the coalition fail right from the start but if they succeed they will ultimately bury themselves. Surely there must be some moderates in the Liberal party who sees this.
    regards
    Dan

  21. Dave, you are an idiot. I don’t despise westerners. But a LOT of ontarions do. My point is if westerners feel that — well they have cause.

  22. By the way there was a great post on the national post website today
    “Needless to say, the mere fact that something is legal doesn’t make it either right or desirable. If the endorsement of the Conservatives in the 2008 elections was far from unequivocal, the rejection of the Liberals in general, and their leader, Stéphane Dion, in particular, certainly was. Whatever Canadians wanted six weeks ago when they went to the polls, what they clearly did not want was a Liberal prime minister, especially Stéphane Dion. If this is what they end up getting, constitutional as it may be, it will be a mockery of democracy”
    regards Dan

  23. Canada is at a crossroads and the GG had better get it right.
    If she accedes to the wishes of the troika to govern, ( as per their agreement, they have outnumbered the conservatives ).
    But here is the rub – Canada will have it’s first defacto communist government.
    A fact of life, accept it, Canadians, we will have joined the ranks of Cuba, Venezuela, and China in governance ideology!!
    Because Taliban Jack and marxist Duceppe were plotting a coup long before the financial “update” by Flaherty, the scheme to dump the conservatives and gain control was well planned.
    The GG must allow the people to decide in another election.

  24. “Surely there must be some moderates in the Liberal party who sees this.”

    One would hope. But one wonders where the optimism comes from.
    My optimism is with swing voters, and conservative supporters being enegized. I hold out little hope for engaging the majority of NDP/Lib/Bloc supporters in actual thought.
    It’s hard enough here.

  25. Bob Rae: Hello, Office of the PM-Elect, how many I help you? (listens) Sorry, if you want a final decision on that, you’ll need to speak to the Bloc Quebecois. One moment, let me transfer you. (hangs up)
    (To Ignatieff) You know, Ig, the last thing I wanted to deal with was people asking me to get back to them on final decisions for things.
    Michael Ignatieff: How do you think I feel? I’ve painted this office fourteen times in the past three months – The Laytonites tell me I keep choosing “colors of oppression and imperialism” and want me to soften things up, while the Bloc tell me they want it to be all “pure laine” coloring. I went down to the local Canadian Tire and asked for it, and they gave me a funny look and just handed me some eggshell coloring.
    Rae: At least you’re not sitting on the phone forwarding calls ten hours a day. I never had it this bad when I was Premier of Ontario. All I had to do was go down to any Toronto University, find any gaggle of budding progressives, and they’d fall all over themselves volunteering to do my work for me. I’d go skinny dipping instead. With Rick Mercer.
    Ignatieff: Please, I don’t want to hear this story again…
    (An argument is heard outside the office door, whick opens. Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe, and Stephane Dion enter, arguing)
    Jack Layton: Look, it’s neccesary we do this. Otherwise those pro-choice, misogynistic, right-wing Christian conservatives might get back in control! And who knows what they’ll do to us! I mean, its awful, they’re going to try to show that actually working for more than six months out of the year won’t kill you! And besides, how could I deny Canadians the pleasure of seeing my mustache every day during their Reeducation Studies course? I spend a lot of time on this thing, you know! It’s not just so Olivia says I don’t look like an egg!
    Stephane Dion: Iz dunno, what doos you think, Gilles?
    Gilles Duceppe: (shrugs) Does Quebec get more transfer money for it?
    Dion: Iz don’t tink zo, ze West, zey are already mad enough dat dere teamz be moved around..
    Duceppe: Look, just because we made it more equal for zem peoples of Canada to enjoy ze hockey – ze Flames can go play in Quebec City for half their home games, and the Oilers can play in Hamilton for half of theirs, then switch through ze season after their players subsize ze Arts Foundations in Montreal. Dats not my fault we ‘ad to sieze them ‘as a lesson to ‘halberta.
    Layton: They’re funded by evil Oil Companies, we had to redistribute them to the rest of the country to make it more fair!
    Ignatieff (aside to Bob Rae): Did you already get refills of Laytons prozac and xanax prescriptions? He’s in rare form today.
    Rae: They’re on his desk along with the model representation of Alberta and Saskatchewan, and the model Godzilla.
    Dion: Well, we know what be best for zem anyhow. Poutine in every pot, plus ze ‘appiness of knowing dat the Conservatives were evil terrorists.
    Ignatieff (aside of Bob Rae): When did that happen?
    Rae: You don’t think we’re going to stop with lollygagging our way into office, did you? Might as well do some reeducation while we’re at it.

  26. Isn’t there something in our laws that makes it illegal to bribe people with personal enhancements in exchange for support – like cabinet posts, senate seats, billions more for their province?
    I’m just saying – are there no laws or is our federal government just a pork piggy bank to buy support with YOUR money when you can’t earn it on principal alone?
    Anybody know what the law for political inducements are?

  27. By the way there was a great paragraph in an article on the National Post website today.
    “Needless to say, the mere fact that something is legal doesn’t make it either right or desirable. If the endorsement of the Conservatives in the 2008 elections was far from unequivocal, the rejection of the Liberals in general, and their leader, Stéphane Dion, in particular, certainly was. Whatever Canadians wanted six weeks ago when they went to the polls, what they clearly did not want was a Liberal prime minister, especially Stéphane Dion. If this is what they end up getting, constitutional as it may be, it will be a mockery of democracy”
    Regards
    Dan

  28. “Isn’t there something in our laws that makes it illegal to bribe people with personal enhancements in exchange for support – like cabinet posts, senate seats, billions more for their province?”

    That’s a good question. You’re not supposed to sell a vote in the Commons, but there’s nothing that forbids coalitions or the mutual pledge of support they necessitate.
    It came up during the Stronach defection. I can’t remember the details, but in general, I think it’s illegal to offer something of financial value for a vote in the Commons, like a car or cash.
    But offering someone a position and then requiring them to vote in support of the government — their own government, no less — isn’t deemed to be the same thing.
    Probably government couldn’t function if it were.

  29. “There were rumours that iggy was near rebellion but it seems like he’s been bought.”

    That’s sad as hell.
    I’d love to respect some Liberals and think they were partners in a Federalist Canada at least, but where is the evidence?
    I think they’re partners in stamping down every threat to their power and that is it.

  30. Christoph
    Obviously the poll is bunk, I just think it is interesting. WRT Ontario, I hold the province accountable for their electoral history.
    This has been discussed extensively so I will give you my take in a nutshell. There is nothing wrong with how Quebec or Ontario votes, I support them and their rights. I simply recognize that western Canadian values/morals are not compatible with those in central Canada, what ever “those” are. Further more, the only way we out west will be able to preserve our values/culture is to part ways with those who belittle our values/morals and consider them not valid. Confederation is BAD for western Canada, it is our responsibility to protect our children and our property(resources) from those who don’t share our values/morals.
    WRT to you comment on the poll posted at SDA, you are right, thank-you for making my argument. SDA is predominantly conservative and most of all WESTERN. Always remember, the beauty of western separation is… we don’t give a f’ what those out east think or wish about it. The separatists in Quebec are correct about this: Canada doesn’t work, the split of the country is inevitable. The only question besides when, is: Will central Canada accept western Canada’s choice to leave; or, will central Canada use force to keep us here?
    Separation is not a right-wing strategy, this appeals to many people out west from all political leanings, left, right and center. Think of all the trees we could save if we didn’t send billions to Quebec. Finally, the ace in the hole will be First Nations people in western Canada. Western Canadians and the First Nations out west will set an example for the world and bury the hatchet once and for all.JMO

  31. DECISION
    What should the GG do ?
    Prorogue Parliament (237) 17%
    Hand government to the Coalition (335) 24%
    Dissolve Parliament, call an election (796) 57%
    Not sure (16) 1%
    Don’t care (18) 1%
    Total Votes: 1402
    So Bourque’s little straw poll suggests roughly 74% should prorogue or go to another election rather than handing govt. to a Bloc controlled cabalition.
    Personally, I would go for another election, before handing power to the coalition. Let them run on their coalition platform which is set out in election materials to be announced.
    Should the coalition want power, they should demonstrate they legitimately earned it.
    Any other way, is just a hijack of Parliament.
    Cheers
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    Frankenstein Battalion
    2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
    Knecht Rupprecht Division
    Hans Corps
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North

  32. CTV Poll Update 4:38
    Who would you prefer Govern the Country?
    Conservatives 17606 67%
    The Ndp-liberal Coalition 8635 33%
    Looks like this Non-Scientific Poll is staying the Course and Canadians are Speaking out
    And since the Greens(tanks on the Hill)have entered the equation, Ctv News should Run a similar poll wed. Only stating the Whole Coalition as this poll Only states NDP/Liberal Coalition. And since the Left is insistant on stating their Combined Votes from the last election justifies their OverThrow of Democracy

  33. “Ignatieff if you were ever to Show some balls & show that you Do Love Canada ” — It would be very good for Ignatieff to back off or put a halt to this if he can. It is definitely time to move off of partisan antics and look seriously at what is in the best interests of Canada. The West, clearly would be livid if the coalition takes over, as would many fair minded, centrists Canadians. I think it is only those strongly on the left who are foaming at the mouth to have this happen. This is not a good move for Libs. If Ignatieff can see it, he will be a hero in Canadian’s eyes. Rae, Ignatieff, and Leblanc think they are safe if they let Dion lead on this — they are not — they will wear it in the next election.

  34. Canada is at a crossroads and the GG had better get it right.
    If she accedes to the wishes of the troika to govern, ( as per their agreement, they have outnumbered the conservatives ).
    But here is the rub – Canada will have it’s first defacto communist government.

    Yep. But she’s a leftist who has supported separatists in the past, even toasted them.
    I think the Prime Minister should set up a God-damn video conference call with the Queen and say, “We need a new governor general or the commies take over (I don’t think the Queen supports commies). Here’s my man, Preston.”
    But it isn’t going to happen, now, is it?
    😉

  35. Appointing Lizzie May is only the first step.Actually suspending the election results is the first step, The agreement is for 18 months of ‘carte blanche’ power and then may be re-negotiated for another year. That is 2 1/2 years to purge any conservatives of power and put their own in place. After the 2 1/2 years is up,Ottawa will be firmly ‘progressive’ and there will be little hindrance to extend the deal again. This is how democracies cease to exist.We just saw this happen in Venezuela.I’ll bet Jack was watching their turn to socialism very closely.This is scary, think ‘Jack Layton,President-for-Life,’.

  36. “Personally, I would go for another election, before handing power to the coalition.”

    Oh for God sakes, damnit!
    Why don’t you learn what you’re talking about rather than creating imaginary armies?
    Of course Harper would take an election if he could get one. The Governor-General does not have to give him one after receiving a letter from the other three parties stating they’ve lost confidence in Harper and are ready and able to form a government. If there’s a confidence vote, the government falls and the Jean makes the call.
    Jean was appointed by a Liberal, and she is also a leftist who had to renounce French citizenship, who also is a former separatism supporter… and toaster.
    A little reality, please, Commander in Chief.

  37. “The agreement is for 18 months of ‘carte blanche’ power and then may be re-negotiated for another year. That is 2 1/2 years to purge any conservatives of power and put their own in place. After the 2 1/2 years is up,Ottawa will be firmly ‘progressive’ and there will be little hindrance to extend the deal again. This is how democracies cease to exist.We just saw this happen in Venezuela.I’ll bet Jack was watching their turn to socialism very closely.This is scary, think ‘Jack Layton,President-for-Life,’.”

    I believe that’s quite possibly the goal.
    Layton is as left as you can get and Duceppe is a “former” communist well into his 30s. They appear to have been plotting this for quite some time whether Dion — on the left of the Liberal party — was aware of it or not.

  38. Speaking as one who has always been an Alberta Nationalist I was lulled to sleep and dreamed of a good Canada by the hope that Stephen Harper’s CPC would begin to heal the damage that these socialists, the Liberals/Dippers/Bloc, had perpetrated on my beloved Alberta.
    Yes there is a threat to Alberta today from Ontario, who I have blamed and hated, and the Maritimes, who but for their culture of defeat could have overbalanced the Bloc and given the CPC a majority.
    The secret to Liberal/socialist power has always been divide and conquer. Let us fix a vision of a united Canada together and see if we can buy time for Stephen Harper to show Canada the road to a better future. A future that is safe from the rampant radicalism represented by this so-called “coalition”.
    The past coalition, over 90 years ago, had a chance to return the Canadian body politic to a normal path.
    As we stand at the close of 2008, does anyone of good faith think that this coalition, should it take power, will ever find a path back to the normalcy that has any connection to the hope for the future that most Canadians even vaguely entertain today?
    What do we, as Canadians, really have to hope for and expect in 2009?
    I trust Stephan Harper.

  39. A little reality, please, Commander in Chief.
    Posted by: Christoph at December 2, 2008 4:48 PM
    Reality indeed. This nation is about to be governed by a socialist/separatist/professor government. Despite the desires of the populace, the words spoken during the election, or anything outside of a deal struck between these three players.
    And there is nothing any of you can do about it. Partisan or not.
    The downside of this chaotic period, is that the Conservative Party will be finally swallowed by the Progressive Pink Conservatives – ending the entire exercise that Manning and Reform started. First course in this banquet is Harper. The rest will fall into place. Eventually.
    That is the reality.

  40. “If there’s a confidence vote, the government falls and the Jean makes the call.”
    Those of you haven’t e-mailed or called her office, do so. If you have, do it again. Be polite, be clear and check your spelling and grammar before hitting send. “Your Excellency” wouldn’t hurt, either.
    info@gg.ca
    1 800 465 6890
    I don’t know if it will make any difference, but it looks like she’s our last best hope.

  41. For those of you Christians that think rebellion against an unjust gov’t is not biblically permissible read the puritan Samuel Rutherford’s “Lex Rex or the Law and the Prince” or read “a Defence of Liberty Against Tyrants” by Junius Brutus a book poular before the French Revolution.
    FREE THE WEST!

  42. “The question then becomes – Is there now more benefits to leaving than staying? Are the pros for separation greater than the cons?”
    lynnh
    I too am Canadian first and separatist as a last resort.
    Allow me to make your question more concise.
    Why stay?

  43. hardboiled, you forget the part where Duceppe was a communist into his 30s. Posted by: Christoph at December 2, 2008 4:56 PM
    Great. I didn’t know that until today. I wonder if Alberta will be the new Georgia under this bunch?

  44. Section II of the Emergencies Act, formerly the War Measures Act, may apply to this unconstitutional power grab:
    “Declaration of a Public Order Emergency
    Declaration of a public order emergency
    17. (1) When the Governor in Council believes, on reasonable grounds, that a public order emergency exists and necessitates the taking of special temporary measures for dealing with the emergency, the Governor in Council, after such consultation as is required by section 25, may, by proclamation, so declare.
    Contents
    (2) A declaration of a public order emergency shall specify
    (a) concisely the state of affairs constituting the emergency;
    (b) the special temporary measures that the Governor in Council anticipates may be necessary for dealing with the emergency; and
    (c) if the effects of the emergency do not extend to the whole of Canada, the area of Canada to which the effects of the emergency extend.
    Effective date
    18. (1) A declaration of a public order emergency is effective on the day on which it is issued, but a motion for confirmation of the declaration shall be laid before each House of Parliament and be considered in accordance with section 58.
    Expiration of declaration
    (2) A declaration of a public order emergency expires at the end of thirty days unless the declaration is previously revoked or continued in accordance with this Act.
    Orders and Regulations
    Orders and regulations
    19. (1) While a declaration of a public order emergency is in effect, the Governor in Council may make such orders or regulations with respect to the following matters as the Governor in Council believes, on reasonable grounds, are necessary for dealing with the emergency:
    (a) the regulation or prohibition of
    (i) any public assembly that may reasonably be expected to lead to a breach of the peace,
    (ii) travel to, from or within any specified area, or
    (iii) the use of specified property;
    (b) the designation and securing of protected places;
    (c) the assumption of the control, and the restoration and maintenance, of public utilities and services;
    (d) the authorization of or direction to any person, or any person of a class of persons, to render essential services of a type that that person, or a person of that class, is competent to provide and the provision of reasonable compensation in respect of services so rendered; and
    (e) the imposition
    (i) on summary conviction, of a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars or imprisonment not exceeding six months or both that fine and imprisonment, or
    (ii) on indictment, of a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding five years or both that fine and imprisonment,
    for contravention of any order or regulation made under this section.”
    laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/E-4.5/bo-ga:l_II//en#anchorbo-ga:l_II
    There is no precedent for this power grab, making it unconstitutional and the very definition of a coup. According to international law, when a state fails, sovereignty reverts to the people, meaning that any and all agents of the state have no controlling authority over the people.
    Let’s shut down the airports, like they did in Thailand.

  45. “I wonder if Alberta will be the new Georgia under this bunch.”

    Maybe Obama will be like Bush and check the socialists from taking over Canada like Russia tried to take over Georgia?

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