I am coming to believe that there is no such thing as “too much” Garth Turner…
As for Dion, he will move from Calgary to Edmonton, where he’s to have an open, Town Hall meeting on his climate change plan. You might not agree with everything the man says, but you have to admire this about him. He stood up once to the self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing separatist losers in Quebec. I guess he can do it again in Alberta.
Get this man a bigger megaphone!
(h/t to Neil.)
Update
In case you missed it, I’m in trouble again. On Friday afternoon I began receiving lots of emails in French from folks in Quebec telling me what I could do with myself, and what they’d like to do to my sister. That co-mingled with messages from Albertans reminding me that they have the oil and we have the problem. I did some battle on the radio, on Charles Adler’s rant, with people in the oilpatch who think this climate change talk is crap. And, just to cap things off, Stephane Dion called and chewed me out.
But don’t expect him to roll!
Lizzy May, stand by for an important call…
According to the Garth Dictionary, “greedy” means “reluctant to hand over all of their money to central Canada”.
Hostile? in EDMONTON? Is he out of his mind? Edmonton is the only island of Marxist bootlicks in Alberta.
“self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing separatist losers”
that’s so unfair! There was nothing “macho” about separatists…the rest pretty much fits.
Seriously, apparently the liberals have decided to get elected by openly run one part of the county against the other, instead of by stealth. I encourage you to talk up western separatism, but I doubt anybody around here will notice until the pumps dry up.
morgan swift :
You will know when where gone when you see the American wheather map has a funny bump on the top.
Ontario & other regions of course as usual will not be on the said map.
So, distilled down, Garth says Albertans are losers.
Good move Garth, is that official Liberal Party policy ?
Off topic;
I just heard a radio spot from the BC Liberals trying to sell Campbell’s carbon tax, in which it is stated that global warming is causing “firestorms in our forests”.
Firestorms in our forests? Sounds as alarmist as “Soldiers with guns in our streets, in Canada”.
Who got the contract for these advertisements? How much is this costing the taxpayers?
My bet is too much
Perhaps he should also slather himself with barbecue sauce and stand ready near a hot grill… just to speed up the process of Albertans’ reaction.
Can someone link Rutherford ‘s bit on Garth ! today ?
Bill D it’s here at 11am, http://www.am770chqr.com/StationShared/AudioVault.aspxll
So we are just a bunch of selfish greedy losers just like the people of Quebec; this according to the rantings of Garth Turner. Well I hope that the people of Quebec and also Alberta remember these comments in the next election. And, to the people of Haltern please remove this fool from parliament he has been nothing but an embarassment to the Conservative and Liberal parties.
Has no one picked up on the fact that Dijon is having his little talk in Edmonton? Preaching to the choir?
Now if Dijon tried this in Calgary, the home of BIG BAD OIL, then I might have some respect for him.
Seeing as how Alberta already has an abundance of tar, I’m sure somebody could find some feathers to give both Garth and Stephane an appropriate send-off when they leave the province.
Thank you Hunter , I wonder if he’ll post it ……..
Every tine a Liberal speaks, an Alberta separatist is born.
Keep up the good work Garth!
And here I thought all of Paul Martin’s people were pushed out. Apparently the “Alberta can blow me” mentality is still there.
It would be nice to see Stef hang Garth out to dry on this one as well. Would prove Garth belongs only in the Garth party and might show Stef has some testosterone in him.
My bet, Dion makes his own gaffe trying to explain himself again and again. Will he be going to Ft McMurray to speak? THAT would be something
“…self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing separatist losers…”
In other words, anyone who doesn’t believe what’s good for Toronto is good for Canada.
There looks to be some pretty good CPC election advertising copy in that thar’ blog of the Garthster.
Dion will be ignored in Calgary, who’s got time for this Joker.
Unless you pay to see him bob , you won’t . As far as I know the functions he’s attending are Liberal ( fund raising ) events .
Party on Garth!
The gift that keeps ON giving.
“…self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish, and balkanizing…”
Yep, that’s Garth Turner all right.
After reading the comments here over the paste few days, I am now totally convinced:
Within 10 years of western independence, you people will be flying planes into skyscrapers.
Garth is just another mentally ill liberal
the Harper conservatives deserve credit for recognizing that Garth is nuts and kicking him out of the party
“Within 10 years of western independence, you people will be flying planes into skyscrapers.”
Another prime example of Leftist Mental Disorder.
Another Liberal from Quebec wants to force the transfer of revenue from the west to the eastern population. The ‘NEP II’
If the Lib’s were really serious about their plan, gasoline would have been included. Including all fuels would actually impact the real cause of carbon, which is the use of an automobile. Oil sands and the balance fuel/energy production industry exist to supply the consumer with the products for transportation needs, both directly and indirectly. As the Lib’s plan effectively shuts down some marginal production (and maybe even some not so marginal production) which in turn will cause an substantial increases in the cost of fuel and everything we buy impacted by fuel (groceries, heat/cooling, transportation) what is going to happen to all those manufacturing jobs in Ontario where they build cars? Fuel will cost more in Canada under this Liberal plan, because Canada will produce less of it. If Mr. Dion gets elected as PM by central Canada and begins to bring the Green Shaft into law, the West will move to protect its interests, with a new set of financial dealings with the balance of Canada. That could mean a number of things. Our offer to Canada will be one time, decisive, and quick. That is how we do business.
Canada is now at a point where Ontario/Quebec will actually need the west more than the west needs them. And we have the financial resources, people, skill sets, professional class to develop and operate our own economy and parliamentary system. Our biggest issue will be where to place the capital of the New West, not whether we want enter into a new arrangement with the balance of Canada.
Do not mess with the West this time. BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan are in no mood for a new NEP, or the Green Shaft, which has to do more with a shift of Green (cash), then anything to do with the environment.
Yeah, that booting of Garth from the CPC seems more and more visionary each day. I wonder just how long the Liberals can keep going with the likes of Garth and Orchard trying to drag them down from within.
Vous êtes des racistes sans culture qui sont jaloux parce que vous ne pouvez même plus faire la différence entre ce qui vient de vous et ce qui vient des États-Unis. Vous êtes tellement déconnectés de ce que vous êtes que vous vous identifiez aux Tim Horton et aux Canadian Tire parce que vous n’avez pas de culture. Vous nous jalousez, bande d’ignorants et d’obscurantistes.
Townhall meeting?…I’d thought telephone booths were non-existant.
You give that academic weenie too much credit: his trying to preach his green shaft only shows that he is too stupid to get out of the lion’s den. Geesh!
There is some crow pie being served at Garths ! Click on the link to get a piece ……. it’s yummy !
Delicious crow, I must say Bill D. Cat…LOLOL
Looks good on him. This one will stick!!!
Read this link, you will be shocked to say the least.
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/canada_net_censorship.html
Again, this h/t is truly unreal.
Can you update the link Kate ?
Just a little suggestion for you folks out west… when Dion comes to town, get all green carbony and turn off the A/C in the hall.
G-Mail has two (2) amazing scoops up. However, no comments allowed.
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1. “Mr. Turner, 59, was a Conservative(sic) when he was first elected to the Commons in 1988.”
2. “He [Turner] was re-elected as a Liberal(sic) in 2006.”
http://tinyurl.com/5kv9je
Belz, il n y a pas une culture si vous devez le proteger avec reglements comme les lois langue.
Vous etes un bigot et fasciste.
Translation: go f**k yourself, you bigotted fascist. Pardon my french.
There should be a SDA fork for these occasions …….. he’s done .
Stephan Dion called and chewed me out .…… more terrifying words have never been spoken …….fare well Garth , we hardly knew ya .
Belz @6.51.
Tu as tort, Belz. Tu as totalement malcompris les gens d’ici, et de l’ouest.
C’est pas racist de demander, au gouvernement, de lesser libre l’argent qu’on a gagne; de ne pas voler l’argent qu’on a gagne, et repasser cet argent parmis leurs amis.
Huh? Comprenez-vous anglais, monsieur Belz? It wasn’t anybody here who insulted Quebec. It was Garth. And it’s the insecure masses of the GTA who define themselves by a belligerent attachment to anything emblazoned with a red maple leaf in the absence of anything more culturally substantial, not the conservative and western denizens of this blog.
You know you are toast when your name becomes a verb, as in, his political career was progressing nicely until he mysteriously and spectacularly Garthed himself on national television…
With reference to Belz, his comments are common in Quebec, where they view the ‘ROC’ as ‘without a distinct culture’ or as identical to the US.
They ignore the fact that Quebec’s ‘identity’ isn’t specific to Quebec but to francophones around the world. Quebec aligns itself culturally and ideologically to all francophone nations. It isn’t distinct in itself but is merged with all other French-speaking nations.
As a francophone identity, Quebec sets itself up as different from the anglophone identity, and Quebec merges all English-speaking nations into one. Quebecers view the world through the biased prism of language. You are either francophone, which means you are OK’d to live. Or, you are not and are ‘Other’ and irrelevant.
And you are quite right, shamrock; it’s hardly a robust ‘culture’ if you have to censor and forbid any expressions that are not in French.
Didn’t steffi stand up to the separtists by stealing Harper’s clarity plan?
ET, you state that in Quebec, any expressions that are not in French are censored and forbidden. Would you actually have any proof of that? Anything verifiable? I know for a fact that this is not true, so I was just curious to see what you consider valid sources, being the Quebec academic and all that.
Official possition of the liberal Perty of Canada –
Qubecers are “…self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing separatist losers…”
Anyone willing to bet that this isn’t a put-up job? Dion tells Garth to make an outrageous anti-Western remark, so that Dion can ride in like a white knight and give him a big smack-down.
Just like the smack-down that the Obaminator laid upon Wesley Clark after the latter made unfair remarks about John McCain.
Seems to me that the “Green Shift” plan may be a Liberal codeword for shifting all those (remember the green logo) Reform supporters right out of Confederation. And if Dion succeeds in alienating the West that hard with NEP II, his home province is going to have a hey-wait-a-minute moment at someone else exercising the Clarity Act first. And all this flaring up when we’re the most united we’ve ever been, with separatist movements withering away under the Harper government. We’ve got to re-elect the Conservatives for the sake of national unity (among other good reasons).
ET: What a spectacularly ill-informed post. Let me take it apart bit by bit, as a Montreal-born Anglo, who despite living in Ontario for the last 40 years, still has a cottage in rural Quebec which I visit regularly.
First off, Quebec culture is incredibly distinct from other French cultures. The actual French look at the Quebecois with disdain, and with the exception of Belgium, all the other full members of La Francophonie are either Asian, African, or Caribbean former colonies, all of whom have vastly different cultures from either France or Quebec. Quebecois taste in literature, music, TV and film is a blend of US and home grown productions, plus a few French imports.
Let’s take food as another example. I post on a food blog frequently, and two questions that have come up recently are “What food represents your city?” and “What is your national cuisine?”. People from Toronto couldn’t come up with anything (I suggested an apple fritter and a double-double, but I was shouted down) better than a hot dog from a street cart. People from western Canada couldn’t do much better. I’m sure there are great perogies in Winnipeg, but I think tens of millions of Poles and Slavs would dispute any claim to them. But people from Montreal? They had an embarrassment of riches: Steamies, poutine, smoked meat, tourtiere, tarte au sucre, Montreal bagels, etc. (and that’s not including maple products). There’s a culture you can sink your teeth into!
Same thing when they discussed Canadian food. Lots of choices from Quebec, very few from the rest of the country and what was suggested was intensely regional – Newfie screech and seal pie, Maritime fiddleheads, Alberta beef, BC salmon, etc. Ontario was conspicuous by its absence. Now, I love living in Toronto for the incredible variety of cuisines that are available, but everything has been imported from elsewhere, and there are people who define Toronto’s food scene as “the best (chinese/italian/greek/viet/caribbean) food outside of (China/Italy/Greece, etc.)”.
And the Quebecois do have a point; after all, how many times have we had the debate “what defines Canada?”, and how many times have we come up empty other than a wide range of mild to virulent “well, we’re not like Americans”? I don’t think this was as much a problem when I was kid, when the British influence on Canadian culture was still strong. However, thanks to Trudeau’s program of destroying most links to Britain and importing millions of people with no allegiance to anything except possibly free health care and some government cheques, the decline in Canadian identity outside Quebec is palpable.
I have to admit, I feel it myself. I’m still proud to be a Canadian, but day by day, I’m wondering what that means. My father was a Navy man, and I was raised to be proud of the RCN (and our merchant marine) and their role in keeping Britain alive from 1939 to 1941. Today, with the disdain shown for the job our brave men and women are doing in Afghanistan, it makes me wonder. I used to believe we were a society that believes in freedom and the right to express yourself, but with election gag laws, “hate crime”, and the odious HRC’s, it makes me wonder. I used to believe that we were a country that believed in law and order, but with our soft sentences, “criminal as victim” mentality, and the continued support of a party that stole our money to finance their own re-election, it makes me wonder. Finally, I used to believe that we were a country that valued human life, but when we award our highest honour to a baby butcher, it makes me wonder.
Recently in Toronto, the remnants of the United Church met to examine their “mission”. I was raised in the UC in the 60’s, and they have flip-flopped on every key value since then. No wonder their flock is deserting in (aptly) droves.
Canada has the same problem. The “elites” have tossed out all the old values, replaced them with the empty vacuum of moral relativism, and fostered a mentality of “Where’s my cheque?”. (In an incredibly serendipitous moment, South Park is right now playing an episode where Canada goes on strike. In a broadcast to US schools, the Canadian spokesman asked “What is Canada known for?” and Cartman replied “Gayness” to general hilarity.)
In a way, I envy Belz. He knows what his culture is about; do we know what ours is?
ET said: Quebec aligns itself culturally and ideologically to all francophone nations.
Nope, the academic elites in Quebec think this way – the average person just wants to make a living and have all the cool toys that come along with being a citizen of western society.
superb post KevinB…