Oh, Say Can You See?

This is why we despise you.
Richard Ball writes from Charlottetown;

Like all meetings of its kind, last night’s Conservative Party meeting on the Charlottetown waterfront began with the singing of the national anthem. The national anthem is not a Liberal anthem or a Conservative anthem, it is the anthem of Canada, for all Canadians.
Everyone in the room rose and sang, with one apparent exception: the Canadian media.
I didn’t notice this directly as I was busy singing, but we were seated right beside the media area, and the person next to me did notice and told me about it afterwards, saying she felt like asking them if they didn’t know the words.
I had noticed something. When the national anthem was announced, one of the young women in the media group broke into the first line of the American national anthem. At the time I dismissed this as a juvenile attempt at being clever, but, given the media’s left-wing bias and working assumption that Stephen Harper is a puppet of E. A. (Evil American) George Bush, I suspect she was making an in-joke for her media brothers and sisters that she knew would be well received.
In defense of the media, I suppose they consider themselves “not there” as participants in the event; they are there as outsiders, as objective observers. But if that is so, the fact that one of them broke the media oath of silence and sang the American anthem when the Canadian national anthem was announced is a stain on their claims to journalistic integrity.
Or, maybe they just can’t sing.

If anyone can identify this “reporter” or the organization she works for, I’d very much like to provide her the recognition she deserves.

107 Replies to “Oh, Say Can You See?”

  1. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to say that no one in history had ever translated the French to “Oh Canada”. Hell, I’ve translated it myself. But the English lyric that we have is not a translation, nor a “change” to a translation. It’s a completely different and totally unconnected piece of wrting.

  2. I don’t know Joanne, you said “All the professors, in all the universities in Canada are either liberal or communists”. That’s a pretty clear statement, and I don’t see anywhere in your statement where you are referring to anything about “professors of journalists” (Or should that be professors of journalism Joanne?). It may be the topic but “All the professors, in all the universities in Canada are either liberal or communists” does not relate to the topic at all, now does it?
    You may wish to make sure you writing abilities are up to par, so we can use our reading comprehension skills to understand WTF and understand the thoughts you are trying to convey.
    You also said, “Who said anything about contempt for an education and knowledge; I’m educated and continue to pursue knowledge and hope to all my life.” Now I’m not too sure that taking a flower arranging class or two and maybe a scrap-booking course would be considered the pursuit of knowledge. I guess Joanne you didn’t see the posts a few days ago regarding the retirement Saskatoon-Biggar-Rosetown MP and Minister of National Revenue Carol Skelton. I questioned Harper’s leadership when I asked how a person could be the Minister of anything without holding a degree or proof of some sort of training relevant to the position she holds. One of your fellow cons stated-
    “I don’t think Warren Buffet or Bill Gates have degrees. Either one of them could be a cabinet minister don’t you think?”
    I don’t think she’s either one of those people and she certainly hasn’t amassed a billion dollars to prove her ability to run a department in the government.
    Another one wrote-
    “Leave it to alby to muddy the waters on this with “gotta have a degree” crap. Even if I have a piece of paper hanging on my wall, it is really no substitute for CDF or common sense.”
    Now that really sounds like someone who has disdain for education, doesn’t it?
    My favourite
    “I’m a university professor and from experience of other university professors – having a degree means nothing, absolutely nothing, in terms of the ability to think, to be logical, to be unbiased, to be critical, to be fair and even, to have a knowledge of history, of geography etc etc”
    A degree means nothing? With an attitude like that somehow I don’t think the person who wrote this has never seen the inside of a community college, let alone educated himself to the level sufficient enough to earn a living as a university professor.
    You see Joanne, it’s not just you who feel this way. You are amongst the ranks of many cons who have openly shown contempt of knowledge or an education. It goes back over a thousand years to the dark ages Joanne, to the time when the clergy and upper class discouraged reading, because they knew if educated the masses get the wrong ideas. There are many here who think the way you do Joanne.

  3. Excuse me albatros39a, but I read the post first, and then respond to it, maybe you should give it a try.
    Who is showing contempt for knowledge and/or education? I’m showing contempt for the liberal and/or communist professors that churn out their dim-witted clones into the media arena. Grab a clue and ride it.
    You must be from the left because you get yourself all in a knot trying to twist my words. You are a maroon, and yes, it is spelt incorrectly.
    And sorry to burst your bubble, but I know many people with university educations that are dumber than a ton of bricks, but hey you go right on thinking with that closed, chauvinistic mind that that just can’t be so. Wah, wah!!!! I feel your pain…..NOT!!!

  4. Liberalis invocus imperialis sine excludo.
    (One of these days, I should read up on the Dark Ages. I’ve already found out in those thick books I tend to read that there was a proto-Industrial Revolution in the Late Middle Ages. Unfortunately for me, I’d have to plow through a lot of Roman history, as those Dark Ages didn’t spring out of nowhere.)

  5. Gordon, I didn’t present my semi-recollection of the incidental details as “fact” — that’s why I said “…or something like that.”
    If someone says “yadda-yadda,” or “that kind of thing,” or “something like that” it’s not exactly an assertion of factual veracity so your admonition to “get (my) facts straight” is a bit of a reach. And as you noted — thank you — the specific details of her complaint wasn’t the point of my comment anyway.
    I certainly did not mean to suggest that her daughter’s murder at the hands of her husband/boyfriend wasn’t a tragedy, just that a) her personal problems shouldn’t have forced a thousand people — or something like that :>) — many of them elderly, to stand around in a cold hangar for over an hour waiting for Mr. Harper’s scheduled appearance, and b) the media’s coverage of her supposed mistreatment didn’t give with what I witnessed with my own eyes.
    You’re right that sentencing issues, including those regarded the murderers of pregnant women, are relevant to federal politics. So are a whole host of other issues, though — maybe thousands? — and the point is, if I showed up at a Dion campaign rally complaining about Adscam, say, I doubt that it would cause Dion’s appearance to be delayed by over an hour while his people listened to and attempted to placate me. And if his people did that, I don’t think the media would have treated my complaints about other attendees being rude to me or pushing down my placard as being as newsworthy as the campaign stop itself.
    I am sorry about what her daughter’s husband/boyfriend did to her. The circumstances do not, however, land appropriately in the lap of a campaigning Stephen Harper who was, after all, not the prime minister at the time.

  6. EBD wrote:
    “just that a) her personal problems shouldn’t have forced a thousand people — or something like that :>) — many of them elderly, to stand around in a cold hangar for over an hour waiting for Mr. Harper’s scheduled appearance, and b) the media’s coverage of her supposed mistreatment didn’t give with what I witnessed with my own eyes.”
    *******
    We are on the same page with your statement. I was one of the volunteers freezing my butt off outside “for the extra hour” – I shook my head at the media coverage on the incident since my friends who witnessed it said the woman went ballistic to attract the media.
    Just wanted to clarify the facts of the situation so if you ever bring it up in the future, you do not get dismissed because you did not know why the woman was protesting…… 🙂

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