Angry is digging into LIberal relationships so intimate, I hope he’s wearing protection….
Finance Minister Ralph Goodale had an hour-long meeting with senior representatives of Canada’s investment community — at which the issue of income trusts was discussed — only hours before his decision on the issue was announced, CanWest News Service has learned.
An official in Mr. Goodale’s office confirmed yesterday that the previously undisclosed meeting with the executive committee of the Investment Dealers Association of Canada (IDA) took place, but said those who attended left the morning meeting “no wiser” about the decision that was announced later that day after markets closed.
Read all about it.
UpdateFrom the comments;
Joseph Oliver, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Investment Dealers Association (IDA), has written a letter today to Larry Elford confirming that “the matters referred to in his letter are under investigation by the RCMP, and therefore we cannot comment.” Larry Elford’s January 2, 2006 letter to Joseph Oliver had made the following request:
“The IDA, as a self-regulator of the investment banking industry, should publicly disclose who attended the IDA meeting with Finance Minister Goodale on the morning of November 23rd. Since a subset of IDA Member investment banks were active in the unusually high volume and price up ticking in income trusts and dividend paying common shares that began at about noon that day, it is reasonable to anticipate that the RCMP will be reviewing communications and conducting interviews surrounding this IDA meeting with Honourable Minister Goodale.”
Joseph Oliver’s letter further indicates that the IDA is not participating as a collaborating investigator in the RCMP’s investigation of income trusts. This statement is not qualified by any conditions such as “not participating at this time” or “would consider participating if asked by the RCMP.”
(If anyone has a link for that, I’ll add it)
Left the meeting “no wiser” but plenty richer.
hmmmm….
Actually I think its fairly believable that a person can leave a meeting with a Liberal cabinet minister and be “no wiser” than when they entered.
“an hour-long meeting with senior representatives of Canada’s investment community …”
no doubt equipped with Blackberries?
This is 1984 to 1993 all over again. Smacks eerily of Conservative Brian Mulroney’s years as PM.
Potatoe fed Conservatives at the trough.
Odd–are we to believe that these people were so obtuse as not to pick up what was happening, and yet others are credited with making massive trades and profits on a suspicion that Goodale was going to change the tax law? And that this good buddy of Goodale was just topping up his portfolio and was fortunate that he used IT to do so? Talk about having it both ways, eh?
Just as important is the question “Where’s our $1.14 million?”.
http://www.thiscanada.com/2006/01/04/wheres-the-beef/
It’s our money. We have the right to know.
Left the room no wiser, eh? As if……
Where’s Ralphie? Where’s the blog on the CNN mess at the West Virginia coal mine?
I just refreshed my browser and *poof* it’s gone.
Seriously, are you guys ever happy? I get depressed reading this crap. It’s like watching a an accident scene – a morbid curiosity. I’m also waiting for when Kate comes out of the closet (an obvious butch dike).
Whoops…just like the media I didn’t check deeper, literally in this case, I see the blog’s moved from it’s original spot to lower down the page…
*blush*
Did Greystone profit?, if so, then BYE BYE Ralphy Boy. LIBERAL CROOKS, the can of worms is being pried wide open. When will it stop, where will it stop. Jan 23rd Headline ” RALPH GOODALE RETIRES & MARKS HISTORY WITH A LEGACY OF CORRUPTION & LIES “………….Well done Ralph.
ron says 1983 to 1993 all over again mulroney.well guess what we did with mulroney we threw that bum out thats what should have happened to chretian and should happen to martin
“I’m also waiting for when Kate comes out of the closet (an obvious butch dike).”
Poor Ricky can’t handle a strong, intelligent female. If he’s comments weren’t so boringly predictable they’d almost be funny.
Seriously, are you guys ever happy?
Happy??? Rickyboy, happy doesn’t even begin to describe how I feel. By the way, what grade are you in?
40 Below Tory
Rick is Scott Reid.
Iron Lady is right!
his, his comments – preview is our friend
“Seriously, are you guys ever happy? I get depressed reading this crap. It’s like watching a an accident scene – a morbid curiosity. I’m also waiting for when Kate comes out of the closet (an obvious butch dike).”
Is that a typo Rick, are you sure your name doesn’t start with a “D”?
Who has committed a “breach of trust”?
Excerpt:
“Breach of trusts
Terence Corcoran, Financial Post
Published: Wednesday, January 04, 2006
THE CRIMINAL CODE SAYS …:
The following is from Martin’s Criminal Code, 2006: Section 122 (Breach of trust by public officer), plus an annotation.
SECT. 122 Every official who, in connection with the duties of his office, commits fraud or a breach of trust is guilty of a indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, whether or not the fraud or breach of trust would be an offence if it were committed in relation to a private person. R.S., c. C-34, s. 111.
ANNOTATION This offence requires proof that the accused is an official, that the impugned acts were committed in the general context of the execution of his duties and that the acts constituted a fraud or a breach of trust. Where the allegation is that the acts constituted a breach of trust, while it is not necessary to prove corruption, it must be shown that the accused did an act or failed to do an act contrary to the duty imposed upon him by statute, regulation, his contract of employment or directive in connection with his office and that the act gave him some personal benefit either directly or indirectly. This benefit could be payment of money or merely the hope of a promotion or a desire to please a superior. The criminal law should not be used as a sanction to punish mere technical breaches of conduct or acts of administrative indiscipline or administrative fault. What the law prohibits is some act done in furtherance of personal ends, the use of one’s office in a public service for the promotion of private ends or to obtain directly or indirectly some benefit: R. v. Perreault (1992), 75 C.C.C.” (3d) 445, 48 Q.A.C. 303 (C.A.). >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?MFEDY56B
Financial Post
What grade am I in? That�s new.
I have a great life. Great income, nice car, nice job and live in a prosperous area of the country. I use my 2 university level degrees to great personal advantage.
Kate has (as do most of her followers) a high-school education and lives in a dust-bowl.
Who wins?
PS I�m not afraid of strong, opinionated women � my wife is a lawyer. I just find it amusing that the unwashed masses use these blogs to try and make their opinion count. You see, most successful people use their positions instigate and manage positive change. I�m afraid you can�t bring about much change when you �polish helmets� (that�s a euphemism, BTW) for a living. Hmm.. maybe she isn�t lesbian after all.
PPS Don�t worry, I�m not voting Liberal either.
Rick
Should have a P in front of it.
I don’t think I want to live in your positively changed world.
Rick…I’m curious about the obvious part?
In other words Ricky has his snout up Paully’s greasy butt!
It’s a surefire path to the Liebral gravy-train on the backs of the poor tax-paying schlubs not in da Family!
Some accomplishment that is Ricky!
Rick,
We win.
As part of the “unwashed”, I find it interesting you describe yourself by what you have in material terms.
I have a great wife, three wonderful daughters, a circle of friends. Oh, and I too have a great income( much higher than avg.), a nice house, two nice cars and live in a prosperous area(Calgary).
I also don’t USE what I have to PERSONAL advantage, I use what I have to the greater good of all, not just those who have connections.
PS: I am voting CPC and DAMN proud of it.
Ken
Hmmm… I have a University degree, I’m in the process of obtaining a second one, as well as being VP of Ops for a software firm based in Calgary, and have held Senior exec. posts for the last 17 years. I’ve owned 3 companies and taken one public, which trades on the small board now… yet I too use blogs to express my opinion.
I don’t live in a dust bowl, I have a nice house and a nice car, wife is an artist, not a lawyer.
I’d never suggest that people, whether educated or not, should not attempt to express their opinions… tell me Rick, why do you use a nom de’ plume in your email, instead of your real name. Wouldn�t one questing to promote positive change seek validation through name recognition?
Perhaps your quest for positive change requires anonymity? One has to wonder why one who has used their education and advantage to advance such great causes as positive change wouldn’t want to see people who perhaps have no other way to communicate their thoughts and idea’s to promote positive change.
As Beatrice Hall once famously penned “I do not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it”. Perhaps an over-used quote, and oft mis-used, but tragically appropo in times like these. I would think one as enlightened and as successful as yourself would seek rather to encourage people to visit or set up sites like this, and attempt to steer them away from pettiness and towards constructive dialogue. Dialogue is what spares us all in the end.
Negative comments do not represent negative outcome by default, and sometimes through negative attitudes the greatest positive changes can occur. I think the whole point behind blogs is for people, regardless of their stripes, to do just that� Express themselves.
Many do it well, some are fools, but that�s the nature of an �enlightened� society is it not Rick? To suffer fools?
Does anybody want to know how much I’m worth or how many cars I own? … Sorry, I’m not going to tell you. Success is not measured in material wealth and those that do measure it that way are emotionally bankrupt.
Rick, try filling your soul as well as your bank account.
Ricky
My, my, what a cute couple you and your wife make. So Ricky, sleeping with a lawyer must be fantasitc, what does she do…. use her personality as a contraceptive?
When you get around to getting your head out of your ass, you may consider this piece of wisdom. Forget about the few letters you have behind your name…as you grow up the world will teach you the rest of the alphabet.
To all,
After my intial salvo back at Rick, as well as WM’s and Ron’s, I think we’ve got our point across.
Let us not fall into the trap of being diverted off the topic of Ralphie and his friends USING their friendships for PERSONAL advantage(OK
Kate!
Please don’t ban this “Rick” commenter. His personal attacks and ignorant vitriolic comments are an “education” to all who visit here – just not in a way he intends.
Hey, Rick, buddy! Betcha my house, and cars, and truck, and wife, and favorite blogger, are nicer than yours! Wanna bet? Nyaaaaa…
Mad Mike from the Dust Bowl
Two university degrees = drive by homophobic smear. Nice. Hope more of my tax dollars go to supporting university liberal education.
“Kate has (as do most of her followers) a high-school education and lives in a dust-bowl”.
Sigh, once again, Ricky under whelms with his bigotry.
As for the catalogue of your accomplishments, trust me Ricky, you don’t want to go there – you will loose (e.g., I beat you hands down on all counts and I�m a minor player here).
Ken
You’re right, 100%.
Ken…Refresh my memory, what salvo and when?
If you’re going to fire make sure it’s a direct hit.
CSL Martin & flags of convenience: Barbados & etc.>>>
Harper accuses Martin of avoiding taxes
Tory Leader lashes back after saying PM questioned his patriotism
Jan. 4, 2006. 03:13 PM
CANADIAN PRESS
The election campaign’s veneer of civility dissolved a little more today as Conservative Leader Stephen Harper accused Liberal rival Paul Martin of trying to steer clear of paying taxes while in the private sector.
Harper was responding to questions about his own love of Canada that were raised yesterday in a speech by the Liberal leader.
“Mr. Martin has questioned my patriotism,” said Harper, whose frustration was evident despite the cheerful demeanour he’s been working hard to project throughout the campaign.
“The fact is, Mr. Martin lived a good deal of his professional life under the flags of other countries and Mr. Martin constantly tried � and was successful, I gather � at avoiding paying taxes in Canada. That’s the record.” >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?G2DK9371
torontostar via nealenews
regards Ricky….
ROFLMAO.
On the education front I know I beat Rick having undertaken 17 years of university education. But you know, I’ll take the comments of “dust-bowl” Kate over his self-absorbed view anytime thank you very much.
Education is a wonderful thing but it does not de-facto follow that education implies that its recipient possesses common sense or intelligence.
I have lived in the US for many years and one of the things I most admire about Americans is the fact that they really don’t care where you are from or the extent of your formal education. What they really care about is can you do what you say you can and are you any good at it. i.e. do you have the goods in your basket.
My point was not to get into a pissing contest ..
Look � I may have come across a bit harsh. I think life is pretty good to most of us � so my point is – why are we so angry? (heck, Kate screams at her radio!) I�m not usually an angry person � but I come and read these sites, and I get pissed off. Yes, you�re right �I don�t have to read these things� � but it�s like a schoolyard fight between a couple of your friends � you care about the outcome.
I�m also somewhat disheartened by the fact that if we were all meeting in a room together (with Kate leading as the chairman), we�d probably enjoy each others company with civility.
William – You are right – and I agree with your post. As for why I use a fake name/e-mail � same reason that a local Liberal candidate�s campaign office was defaced recently: fear of retribution. As this blog confirms, Conservatives can be some of the angriest, most resentful people� And that�s from someone who is voting Conservative..
What is so damn liberating about these blog things is that the great unwashed are becoming instrumental in breaking up the existing political power structures and the Ricks of the world are having a little problem with that so c’mon folks let him have his pissy little rants, life is changing rather dramatically for him and his kind just now, eventually the truth will set him free! When unprincipled people are removed from positons of policial and economic power you bet attitudes will turn positive!
Rick
“I use my 2 university level degrees to great personal advantage. Kate has (as do most of her followers) a high-school education and lives in a dust-bowl.”
…leading to the clear conclusion that it is not what you have, but how you use it.
BTW, I “follow” Kate because this woman has serious insight and intelligence, is lucid, clear-thinking and logical…the fact that I have 2 advanced degrees (and am a university prof) is irrelevant.
Liberal=great personal advantage
Conservative=think of others
…’bout sums it up.
Henry
Sorry Henry – degrees from the University of Manitoba “don’t count”.. as I’m sure you’ve found out professionally by now..
To quote one of the greats:
“A university degree does not require intelligence, it merely requires scholarship”
-Robert A. Heinlein-
Anyway, the question that should come to mind is:
How this will play out in Ralph’s Wascana riding?
Anybody out there have a feel for the local reaction? If Ralph has lost significant support in this leftist stronghold, the Liebrals are finished.
Liberal=great personal advantage
Conservative=think of others
Henry, At what university are you a mathematics prof?
Rick, I am happy to hear that you live your life in relative luxury. I just hope you know that not everyone is as fortunate.
I’ve been out of school for 4 years (just the one degree – I’m not made of money) and I’m still under heavy debt. There are thousands out there with the same situation. I’m not looking for sympathy; even with debt payments and paying my taxes, I can still make ends meet even if I can’t seem to get ahead.
If you take a second to look at the situation through my prespective, you might understand how angry I get when one-quarter of my hard earned money gets taken off in tax only to be either wasted or to be tucked into another brown envelope for another Liberal friend who doesn’t even need it.
I use very few services offered by the government. In fact, the only time I needed something from the government (a student loan extension), I was turned down and forced to go through the banks for a private loan. Never mind the fact that with my butt in the work force, the government is now one of the first ones there with their hand out.
In short, many of us are angry because many of us have a reason to be.
Well, for the record, I do have post-secondary education, albeit in the trades. While my occupation hasn’t made me wealthy, and I’ve seen my share of ups and downs (I’ve been self employed since the age of 18) – I paid for my home with 48 post-dated cheques and I need only to work a couple of hours a day to provide for my needs.
I’ve also never had a t-4 slip in my life.
Otherwise do pretty much what I want, when I want to, and average 6 – 10 weeks a year on the road – In the past two years, I’ve been to Rio De Janeiro, Philadelphia, North Carolina, and a Bahamas cruise.
Now, as far as the “dust bowl” part goes, (speaking of cultural bigotry!) I suggest you visit my photos page. Almost all were taken in Saskatchewan.
htt-://www.katewerk.com/photoindex.html
Oh, and for what it’s worth, I’m straight. Not that it’s anyone’s business – but I do find it ironic that those leftists who set out to ridicule me consider an accusation of homosexuality to be an insult.
Go figure.
Ninja –
Again, I didn’t mean to start a pissing contest. I’ve worked hard too – I’ve had LOTS of debt and I also haven’t used government services as extensively as my taxes would indicate.
My point is that things are pretty good. You’ll be better of than most people in Canada over your lifetime – and you deserve it. This doesn’t even take into consideration the misfortune of people in the rest of the world.
The Liberals are corrupt and will likely be defeated in a couple of weeks. Liberals and Conservatives aren’t that different – at least in their goals. You don’t help things by being so pissed off and out for blood..
Karl
Here’s a story posted @ Canada.com http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=d96bc07c-245f-4652-86a5-2ed618a8ddcf&k=93493
Funny how canada.com is favouring the “lucky guess” scenario.
I have a question for Libs and Tories alike, and I suppose it relates to Mr. Goodale in a way. Anyway, I ask this here and on other blog sites to see if anyone can give me a better answer than the flaky one I’ve come up with for myself.
Regardless, the question is this:
I was wondering if Martin lost the election to Harper, but Harper didn’t win by much… say for the sake of arguement, it was Cons 121 and Libs 117, could the Libs conceivably pre-empt the House of Commons and a potential minority government under Harper, by aligning with the NDP in a formal coalition, which Mr. Martin would then trundle in front of the GG, stating “I have a stronger mandate based on my alliance with the NDP”.
Is such a manuever possible to do legally? Is it ethical under British Tort Law to do this?
As I read the Constipation, it occurs to me that he could indeed supplant the winning party on the basis of a coalition… hey, I’m no lawyer, but that’s the way it reads to me.
I’m just curious if anyone has a better outcome, as I can’t really find a definitive answer.
Except the guy from UofM, your answer won’t count.. just kidding.
That was actually a really good response, Kate (seriously) Although I’m not a leftist.
I’ve said what I have to say and I’ll stop commenting (for now)..
Smile 🙂
Contrary to his image,
Goodale is not a bumbling fool.
He is a Liberal
therefore he is a crook.
Rick,
Wow.
I am one of the ones that struggles on single income and supports a loving wife who stays at home with 3 kids under the age of 6. (Part of the �other� demographic.) Don�t bullshit me about education and the nice cars. My wife and I are educated, live in Arbor Creek and work the extras to provide as best we can. It�s a choice we�ve made and we�ll reap the rewards later�something I suspect you�ll always be missing.
Kate�s got it going on.
Well spoken: Bullwinkle, William, Boudica
Kate said to have fun � but this got me collared.
P.S. Ralph hands have got to be getting fuller with this one by the moment.
Ron Raw
Joe Clark was a bumbling fool too… and he said in the last election he was voting Liberal… does that mean he’s a crook too:)?
This is still Canada Allen, and a man is still innocent until proven guilty in this country…
“so shut-up and get a rope for the tree”, said the half-cut Tory.