23 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Stinking Giant Mirrors”

  1. More poisonous green shit.

    Every major environmental disaster is the result of a government policy.

  2. Doesn’t it feel like we’re back twenty-two years ago?
    Big subsidies bribing for wind and solar products.

    1. Everything old is new again. Like aviators, except the opposite because PV’s suck and aren’t getting any more economical despite an avalanche of claims to the contrary. That being said, PV’s are better than wind.

      1. UnMe

        PV’s are good for RV’s and small cottages, industrial is garbage…just like the massive array being built at the NW corner of Barlow Tr X 114th Ave SE Calgary.

        Virtue Signalling bullshit…as pretty much anything Gangrene does.

        1. No, someone is getting very wealthy while politicians and bureaucrats receive huge kickbacks. Always follow the money.

      2. Why are PV better than wind … in outer space where the sun shines 24 hours a day yes but in Calgary where the daylight hours will soon total about 8 solar kind of sucks.

        1. It’s at least somewhat predictable.

          The one good application for wind I’ve seen is the device that recharges your car battery. It has some other boutique applications but not much.

    2. Jimmy Carter was ‘fashionably’ putting solar panels on the WH roof while I was in College. The year was 1978, and we were all “going green” back then with solar-friendly design. Eco architect, Sim Van der Ryn was the State Architect for Jerry Brown.

      Shortly thereafter, everyone who had put photovoltaic solar panels on their roof … tore them all down. They rapidly lost efficiency and any worth whatsoever … so they all got binned.

      And now … ever since Obama … we’ve retread the same old inefficient, doomed to failure, “green” “solutions” to our contemporary lifestyles. It’s the same rubbish as it always was. As it has already proven to be. A small part of the marketplace adopted this rubbish in the 1970’s … and then that marketplace binned it all. Why is it any different now? The communist Chinese have Slave labor factories with ZERO environmental controls to rapidly manufacture solar panels for CHEAP. That’s it. Nothing else has changed.

  4. It may be the case that in a few decades they will become recyclable thanks to advances in science and massive ramp up in nuclear power. This has precedent-there used to be huge piles of dead cars all over America until a process was invented to make recycling them economical. Those junkyards are gone now. My vision of the future is little oceans of dead PV panels being eaten by an SMR-nuclear powered plants and converted into something useful.

  5. Hate to break the news to you but recycling in general makes no sense. Car bodies only make sense because they come in one or two tonne bites. About the only other thing is turning rubble into fill.

    1. I know plastics recycling is bunk, but I think metal and glass have some merit, or so I’ve heard.

      1. Problem is if the metal is scattered across the panel. The energy required to melt solar panels is pretty high, for the small amount of metal you could extract per panel.

      2. No, recycling glass at least makes the least amount of sense.
        Glass is essentially heated sand. The amount of energy it takes to transport, clean/recycle glass is greater than the energy it takes to make new glass from scratch.
        Glass in a landfill will eventually revert to its natural state (sand).

  7. Its the same for wind.

    The turbine blades which have a life span of between 0 and 20 years, are recyclable, but the process is limited to 2 companies, and it’s expensive. So expensive that simply burying the blades is orders of magnitude cheaper.E

    As for the “Just Stop Oil” lunatics, if they get their way, there will be no new wind turbines built, as they use a lot of petrochemical products to make the blades, and cowlings.

  8. Some things are recyclable with profit, some are recyclable that make sense.
    Been recycling paper for some 60 or more years.
    Most stuffs are recyclable at loses some at loses so large, there is a shut down on talking about it.
    Recycling of most of the electronics or anything to do with electricity cost way more to recycle than any savings in way of energy.
    It cost a lot, as in great amounts, of fossil energy to recycle stuff.

  10. There are too many Smooth Brains making decisions/declarations these days.
    More than ever, “The Science” seems to be Bullshit.

  11. At my old job we would dump 120 cubic yards of solar panels every day for years, straight into landfill.

  12. Recycling is a catch all term for the capture of government funding extracted from tax payer’s wallets .

    Most people understand recycling to mean breaking things down to their basic components or elements to be remanufactured into a new product. Many of the so called recycling entrepreneurs are actually repurposing diminishing performance products for some less stringent application..

    For example to truly recycle a lithium battery it would be necessary to do the work in an oxygen and water free high vacuum or inert atmosphere because the cells are pyrophoric and ignite spontaneously on exposure to oxygen or water vapour. There are no such commercially viable large scale processes.

    All the supposed recycling processes that one sees touted simply tear down battery packs, test individual cells and then reconfigure into products with less stringent performance requirements. That is NOT recycling!

    Similarly, recycling solar panels is not commercially viable. The energy inputs would greater than the value of the elements extracted. Also you would end up with a huge pile of waste material.

    As they say down south “That dog don’t hunt”

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