Y2Kyoto: Don’t Confuse Me With The Facts


(Note: a reader has emailed to point out that this video was not shot in Copenhagen, but at an earlier date. Though nothing in the post or the video link indicates it was, it’s worth noting that it predates the Copenhagen conflab.)

55 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Don’t Confuse Me With The Facts”

  1. Exquisite!
    Those Brits have a way with words. First, there’s Nigel Farage and, now, Lord Monckton.
    Winston Churchill, of course, is the Granddaddy of them all: “I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.”

  2. Was not W. C. Fields that said that?
    Ideology trumps facts, you can’t hammer nails in concrete.

  3. Hope* and Fear*. Brit Charles Lamb’s words are the proof: Brits do have a way with words.
    Their verbal facility may be their/our saviour again as it was when Sir Winston sent the English language into battle. Why? Words express human thoughts/ideas which precede human actions/deeds.
    “By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?” (Matthew 7:16)
    …-
    >> “Still hope for climate treaty”
    http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/12/15/12157461-sun.html
    …-
    *Hope and Fear:
    “Charles Lamb (1775-1834):
    “Hope* is charming, lively, blue-eyed wench, & I am always glad of her company, but could dispense with the visitor she brings with her, her younger sister, fear*, a white liver’d-lilly-cheeked, bashful palpitating, awkward hussey that hangs like a green girl at her sister’s apron strings & will go with her whithersoever she goes.”
    (Letters of Charles and Mary Anne Lamb)”

  4. Looks like proof positive that AWG syndrome is morphing into a cult. I’m assuming that the Norwegian lady walked to Copenhagen, or at least borrowed Uncle Lief’s boat to sail there. Hope she packed some glogg for the trip.

  5. He made a good point and i have to commend him …he told her to beleive NO ONE witch is rigth do your own research and decide for yourself but i think for the greentards leftists it’s better to just “go with the flow dude” peace man love nature dude !!! mana can’t we all just get along .At least she wasn’t a raving lunatic like most of them are and at least she answered questions more than i can say for any and or all of her supeiriors no matter how uninformed she sounded!!
    Paul in calgary

  6. She’s a dear for doing the interview. Er, I mean, she looks increasingly like a dear in the headlights as the interview progresses. I almost saw the lightbulb come on a couple of times, but she reverts to her religion in the end. Too paraphrase, “I’m just too busy to question the end of the world, I’ll trust those shouted the loudest and longest rather than look into it myself.” The question at 9:20 says it all.

  7. She’s a dear for doing the interview. Er, I mean, she looks increasingly like a dear in the headlights as the interview progresses. I almost saw the lightbulb come on a couple of times, but she reverts to her religion in the end. Too paraphrase, “I’m just too busy to question the end of the world, I’ll trust those shouted the loudest and longest rather than look into it myself.” The question at 9:20 says it all.

  8. She was polite allowed the interviewer and the deconstruction of the Blind Faith called AGW. Questioning someone’s faith is a difficult problem and I have tried to leave their religion and tried to argue about the geopolitical forces that would benefit from the new taxes imposed. If we are not getting “good” use of the existing taxes why do we think adding trillions of new taxes will change the mismanagement and fraud by the government officials?
    Why should we trust the existing corrupt/inept politicians with more of our money?

  9. This woman is very kind to continue with Lord Monckton, who is stellar in his demolition of the AGW articles of faith, one of which she articulates at around 7:55.
    “I have faith in the media…”
    And that, my friends, is FUNDAMENTALLY why we are where we are. The vast majority of the media are complicit in the AGW ruse, toeing the AGW line the same way as this Greenpeace disciple. No critical analysis. No questioning of findings. No serious counterpoint interviews with the scientific community.
    Damn them all.

  10. Finally someone with a voice to speak the facts
    The media is not to blame they just follow the story. The squeaky wheel gets greased the louder i yell the more i will be heard.That’s what the Greenpeace motto should be.(or is the brainwashing still working for you )
    CHECK THE FACTS AS LORD MONCKTON HAS SAID !

  11. It seems Greenpeace and other activists are there to promote some meaningful steps to be taken that will actually affect the climate; the UN and politicians are there to transfer money between nations. In other words, the UN has duped the activists into believing that an environmental problem exists; that will give the UN legitimacy in making massive economic changes…with no real change in environmental practices when looked at on a global scale.
    The UN have been masters of manipulation at this, Greenpeace the useful idiots.

  12. Good natured, honest, and frankly charming.
    I felt sorry for this well intentioned woman.
    The result of an agenda driven popular media reporting in near absolute lockstep. A constant barrage of misinformed 40 second soundbites and brazen headlines will take their toll.
    This line said it all: “I don’t have time to read all the reports” – easy prey for corrupt media which long since abandoned the “news” business in favour of shaping leftist public policy.

  13. It’s the perennial problem with lefty global warming believers. I run into it even in my own work environment where fact checking and access to the scientific literature is second nature. Some people just accept the received wisdom of the press and never question it. The mentality is, “It’s the most serious problem facing mankind today and I don’t have time to do any homework on it.”
    I’ve taken to commending the believers on their faith. I told one that next time the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Mormons come knocking I’d send them over to his place where they’d be sure to get an instant convert. At least it made him uncomfortable.
    The difference between Greenpeace and the JWs: at least the JWs insist you read the source documents.

  14. My favorite line: “If there has been climate change for 4 billion years, why are you against it now?”
    I may have to start making T-shirts with that.

  15. Almost felt for her there, almost, and she was seeing how silly this AGW belief really is.
    She doesn’t have time to check on facts because of her life and job, but has time to travel to another country to protest?
    Schmuck.

  16. I feel for Lord Monckton as he patiently asked his questions and provided facts to the responses from this nice lady. When you are speaking to those who accept things by pure blind faith you have moved into the religion arena and all the facts and invitation to do your own due diligence fall on deaf ears. They just believe.
    I have given up doing this pointless exercise with my lefty friends. Yet every now and again when it hits a personal note like my buddy buying a home in Toronto and having to pay Miller’s new taxes costing him over $8,000 and starts to check the lefties spending of this money. I just smile as he rants on and mumbles that maybe I was right on the greed of the left.
    Reading the AGW comments there seems to be a lot of people expressing that they have been lied to and are pissed off and are finally seeing the light especially as my buddy found when it hits them in their own wallet.

  17. Almost a typical Norwegian, they have been so socialized for 60 years they can’t think for themselves and here is the proof. I have spent a lot of time in Norway when I was younger, if you can stand up somewhat sober at a dance the women drag U out to dance because the boys are passed out on the floor from home brew, because there is no hope in that country. Your job will be at IKEA or a fast food outlet or in oil IF YOUR A LUCKY ONE. Then the lefties that run this embarrassing country take 80+ percent in taxes, I know because the family I lived with were SAS pilots making a lot of money. SCAM SCAM fools like her are Lenins useful idiots, or Gores in this case.

  18. Near the end of the interview, I am not sure whether she was going to cry, had to go potty, or was no longer comfortable in her skin.
    I love to watch people when their world, based on “opinion and feeling” gets dismantled by truth and facts!
    Lady…you can’t handle the truth!!!!

  19. That’s pretty dirty, trying to make her actually think about something. Why not ask her how she “feels” when she hears those things?

  20. Kristen was very polite and hung in there for 10 minutes in a conversation in her second language.
    I thought she was charming, well she charmed me.
    Lord Moncton trying to open minds one at a time.

  21. I too found the young woman to be attractive and charming and intelligent and well mannered but she is gullible and has been totally brainwashed thanks to the MSM. The thought occurred to me that if this woman can be so sucked in by the scam what about other young people that have this nonsense drummed into their heads year after year at school. Is there any hope they will ever see the light?

  22. Money quote from this charming lady:
    “You must be talking about some other planet.”
    A subject she’s obviously familiar with.

  23. Oh my, that exchange from 9:18-9:52 was damning. I had some sympathy for her up until that point.

  24. As I’ve said before, you can’t argue with religion. Facts don’t matter. Climate change is a religion.

  25. Somebody please help me. We need a new acronym for AGW. Something to do with Global Welfare! Isn’t AGW just a sneaky way to shift wealth around in the world? Why is it that the “poor” developing nations are crying the loudest about those stingy “rich” developing nations?
    Go Lord Monkton!

  26. Now, let us take away the positive. I like her, (not just because she was Norwegian, and not just because I’m jealous of multilinguists).
    The debate was tempered and rational. So, if people don’t listen to the facts, whatever. At least she was receiving, not just broadcasting. And that is all that can be hoped for these days, in our politically polarized world.

  27. Jack, AGW = Anglia Gerry-rigged Welfare?
    Lord Monckton is a very charming fellow and that women, as deceived as she was, was quite gracious to do that interview with him.
    I hope she has the grace and courage to check Lord Monckton’s facts for herself.

  28. I thought that was a superb interview. Monckton did a splendid job of making the point without coming off as an ass, and although the interviewee has clearly swallowed the kool-aid she had a good sense of humour.
    The last 30 seconds were particularly good. For Monckton to tell her not to believe him or anyone else probably amounted to the first taste of intellectual freedom that women has ever experienced.

  29. Western Canadian at December 15, 2009 6:59 AM [..Was not W. C. Fields that said that?
    Ideology trumps facts, you can’t hammer nails in concrete.]
    Yeah I agree W. C. Fields….
    Woman to Churchill: If you were my husband I would poison your tea!
    Churchill to woman: If I were your husband..I would drink it!
    Actually I hammer nails into concrete all the time. Check out concrete nails….you just have to hit them very accurately. My ramset does it instantly.

  30. A successful use of the Socratic method by Lord Monckton;i.e., leading your student through to the truth by asking instead of telling.

  31. My suspicion is that this gal was not a random encounter.
    I cannot believe her persistant, pleasant manner….if think she was primed and primped for this role. She is the best they have to project a thoughtful, intelligent image…not a raving lunitic.
    The only problem is Greenpeace talent pool is so shallow that they found poise and demenor but mounted on an airhead.
    Monckton must remember that there is seldom any pleasure to be had in a battle of wits with an unarmed man(woman).

  32. I’m hopeful that charming young woman will, once out of the pressure of the cameras, reflect on the interview and will question her own convictions.
    She wasn’t ignorant, just misinformed ie brainwashed.
    Independently reading up on this controversy, and all the other current issues, DOES take a hell of a bite out of the day.

  33. The European faith in Greenpeace is probably more widespread than in the remnants of Christianity. I recall 20 years ago when Greenpriests were campaigning against BC’s Forest Industry, German tourists would visit and were shocked to see trees on Vancouver Island. “They lied to us” was a common statement. The German auto workers union, at that time (perhaps, still) donated to Greenpeace through payroll deduction. Think about that before you buy your next German manufactured BMW or VW.
    That nice Norwegian lady and millions like her fund one of the worst hysteria pimping / industrial terrorism organizations in the world.

  34. Great interview! Amazed that he wasn’t shouted down or even pushed over. After all to try and wrestle the Kool-aid out of someone’s hands can be dangerous work.

  35. Perhaps there is hope for this lady. Like others, I’m surprised she didn’t launch into a GWB tirade.
    RE:Kathy’s comment
    When I said it, I didn’t get the “LOL” comment, I got flamed, and I was joking!

  36. Indiana Homez – Kathy can say anything though. She’s earned it, not saying you haven’t, but . . .

  37. Love that man.
    This is how conversations should be: polite and factual. The woman, as many have said, has been so duped by socialism and “climate change” bunk that when Lord Monkton calmly explained the facts to her, she was blown away. We see this in our own circles ALL the time. Climate change IS a cult. It’s time for re-programming.
    Kathy Shaidle, I’m a woman and I would vote for Pedro or Sarah Palin. Whoever came first.

  38. No doubt Erik, Kathy definitely has the clout I don’t have.
    I still stand behind my opinion based on the facts(voting statistics) that we’d be better-off today in N.America if women had not been voting. That being said, a woman’s right to vote takes precedence over any argument I can realistically make regarding this subject; but, it’s worth pondering the effects and influence of the largest voting block.

  39. sasquatch: The lady in question, who would poison Churchill’s tea was Lady Astor — Nancy Astor, Viscountess Astor. They had a long-running war of words.
    Once, to a question from Churchill about what disguise he should wear to a masquerade ball, she responded, “Why don’t you come sober, Prime Minister?”
    Not only are the Brits eloquent, they don’t hesitate to voice their opinions, whether or not they offend others (in fact, they rather take delight in putting others’ knickers in a knot). Too bad we’ve deep-sixed our Brit heritage here in Canada because in doing so, we’ve become a nation of wimps.

  40. You can’t reason people out of a position they were never reasoned into in the first place. She is almost every person I talk to and it’s bloody frightening actually.

  41. >>The lady in question, who would poison Churchill’s tea was Lady Astor — Nancy Astor, Viscountess Astor.
    Lady Astor of D-Day Dodgers fame. Probably had a lot in common with Linda Duncan.

  42. I have always marvelled at the amount of money Greenpeace has. After all running those ships isn’t cheap.
    Who’d a thunk a payroll deduction. However it can’t be nearly enough. Especially when pining for a bonus to rival bankers.
    After getting folks to stand around all day in the cold inculcated with religious zeal is hard work and deserves largess of the people to better enable a piety for Greenpeace and the scripture of Gaia
    So

  43. That Lord Moncton is sure a Character.
    We like Characters in Alberta.
    Man do we need politicians like this here.
    In the old day’s this guy would have been a Marshal or Judge. The hanging kind.
    He would make a great Christian Minister by the way.

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