It’s on days like today, with the mercury dropping and a blizzard blowing in, that an urge comes over me to visit the garage and spend a little time with a sleeping Aretha. (From better times).
After all, we share a few secrets. *
329 Replies to “Enriching Their Folklore”
Volik, go tell it to Kinsella.
He uses the same image as a prop to shore up his ‘nazi hunter’ cred.
When Kinsella does it it’s fine.
When Kate does it it’s ‘anti-semitic.
Neither suffered the Holocaust.
Both used it’s images albeit fake.
One is a defender of human rights.
One is a anti-semitic bigot.
Classic Liberal double standard.
Actually Volik it the Holocaust card was one that he was going to play anyway. Kate saw it coming and came up with a sting to expose Kinsella and his playing of the Holocaust card for the self serving, exploitive move that it was. And used an obvious looking fake to do it with which makes Kinsella look all the more foolish.
Warrens co-opting of the Holocaust to use as a stick to beat his oppontents with, when his Liberal government voted for virtually every anti Israel resolution to come down the pipe at the UN, is hypocracy writ about as large as it gets.
Best thread in ages. Agree or disagree with the tattoo post, it still exposes WK as the dimwit he really is. The trolls can’t get past the mock outrage of PC-think to see it for what it is, the best lampoon of a public figure in a long, long time.
this statement speaks volumes:
“How right you are. These wretches make unfounded accusations of racism and bigotry on one hand, while marching in Hezbollah parades, condemning Israel, spewing anti-Zionist rants and supporting Islamofascist racist freaks against Steyn and Levant”
No but it does lend some insight into his feckless tasteless prank on Christians and Stockwell Day.
I see there’s suddenly a lot of members of Kinsella Youth here spreading Big Lies.
Herr Kinsella must be proud of them. I’m sure he’ll promote them to Brownshirts in a hurry!
I want to thank Kate, her readers and commentors. I’ve had more hits related to my participation in this donnybrook the last two days than…ever probably.
Let me leave with this little bag of wisdom: all this left/right stuff has become irrelevant. Don’t you think? How many are really interested or invested in partisan politics anymore? So the myriad insults intended to demean a person’s partisan political preference seem a waste of time.
A few of y’all are very funny, though. Maybe some stand up gigs would be good on the weekends. Finally, on the issues of racism and bigotry, you know what they say about the Foo, right? See you in the cartoons. I’ll check in to see if Kate comes out of the witness protection program anytime soon….
No doubt, John Daly, a childish link-whore like you would not get ANY hits, if you were not such a childish parasite.
All right, guys. Stop feeding the troll.
So while queen kinsella is our scouring arena bathrooms for some merit, any merit, not even fussy if it ain’t his own, his merry band of junior sock puppets comment on this site like rapid little skunks?
Hee hee!
They always name call when losing face on point.
Always.
Wish they’d find a new tactic, yawn, it’s getting old.
Heading for a more adult thread where these babies are seldom heard from. ( or not for long anyway )
WLMR: Hey CC perhaps if you took the time to spell “holocaust” correctly you moral concern over it’s use as a political football may have some validity.
Um, that should be “your”, and “its”.. people in glass houses…
Kate,
I used to have an RD-400. I could get air in the first five gears (often unintentionally!). One time, travelling from Toronto to London, I took advantage of a tailwind and big hill to get it up to 120 mph. That’s the fastest I’ve ever moved without being on an airplane!
But then I got scared and slowed down. The image of me hitting a rock suddenly overwhelmed me..
Mindless. Absolutely mindless Kate. Dead animals indeed but you certainly don’t speak for the folks of Saskatchewan.
WK’s version of free speech is on his site – everyone agrees with him.
No dissent.
No discussion.
No thought.
No tolerance.
No freedom.
No speech.
Ballpoint pen;2 dollars,nice little bike;about $6,000, hoisting a self-obsessed wannabe punk on his own petard;priceless. Way to go.
So, Warren took the bait, swallowed the leader, lead weights (david suzuki approved) and about five feet of 30lb test and now is trying to puke them up.
The only unfortunate thing about this whole story as it unfolds on the web, is that depending on when a person weighs in, is that one must know the story from the start (Warrens’ bathroom graffiti) or that will effect their decision on who is right or wrong/left.
Good Luck Kate, my Nubile Queen !!!
Care to elaborate Klein? Seems it was anything but mindless.
Don’t take any chit from them, Kate! I busted a gut laughing once the joke was explained. What a delightful way to kick some self important pompous arse in the ass! You drove that particular point home with a sledge hammer.
I would like to think that in a country like Canada, we would have better guys than Kinsella defending the Pore Joooos from the evil chit house Nazis that infest the nation.
I was out for a few hours, and have conducted some clean up on this thread to excise a troll and anything resembling a response to same. I don’t know what was deleted – I didn’t read any of them. In the future, refrain from hitting the post key and you may avoid wasting both my time or yours.
KATE
that’s a classic gotcha:-))))
and to all the “I am insulted holocaust survivor’s son/daughter”, grow up!!!!
my father spent 2 years in a C camp, and wuz damn lucky to get out alive as gypsys had the worst survival rate of any targeted group, and I do NOT find Kate’s “trick” offensive!!!
It’s clear in my mind that the motivation behind this post wasn’t to trivial the Holocaust, but to toy with Mr Kinsella. On that score, mission accomplished.
It’s also clear in my mind that Kate isn’t an anti-Semite, and indeed, has consistently defended Israeli interests here on SDA.
Having said that, it’s also clear in my mind that her support for Israel derives not from any particular deep-seated compassion or affinity for the Jewish people — or else she would never have exploited this iconic and highly sensitive image from the Holocaust for personal gain, however clever her ruse — but rather because it suits her purposes. Kinsella is no doubt a buffoon who seized upon the email a little too quickly, and his post-hoc claim to the moral high ground is obviously calculated. But given the highly specific and historical significance that a numbered tattoo on one’s forearm carries for anyone of Jewish descent, Kate’s willingness to risk such great offense simply to advance a personal quarrel is callous indeed.
Kate may very well be a Friend of Israel, but she is a partisan first.
Well done Kate for cutting the trolls!
And a spectacular job of hoisting Warren on his own petard!
I rather doubt that the Red Star in Toronto could find much value in his screeds after the blogosphere pummeling he has taken for the red herrings he tossed in after his obvious embarrassment.
Gravitas?
Not much that I can see, nor I suspect will any MSM in the future.
Mischief isn’t everything …… it’s the only thing .
Stanley:
Josef Stalin killed 10 million of his own citizens.
My mother’s family were luckier. They were sent to Siberia where my grandfather died of starvation.
There is no imagery that the survivors or their children can be offended at … only forgiveness and a realization that there’s a time to move on.
Remember that Jews were not the only victim group in history. There are many sad tales in many cultures.
You’re not as unique as you’d like everybody else to believe. Kinsella can play on that never-ending wailing and never-ending agony that has been allowed to cling and destroy the psyche, instead of letting go and being truly free from something that cannot be changed.
Continue to be haunted, if you must.
Most of my fellow travellers from the former Soviet Union live happier lives in Canada because they realize they cannot live in the past and are content to build a better future here.
Kate: all bulls–t aside, are you going to write anything on this issue (of your prank)? You have dozens of readers who are spinning and interpreting your motivation. I understand how SDA works, having spent the weekend at SDA High being schooled. I understand that you post links, mostly, and then open things up for discussion.
Maybe this situation is worthy of your making an exception. I wonder if you are willing to set aside whatever pissoff you may (or may not) have with folks like me, who have and still maintain what you are about is bigotry, to write something here as regards your thinking on the Kinsella/Holocaust survivor “joke”
You are cruel, Kate. Not that I’m criticizing, mind you, just commenting is all.
Hey Warren, do you see the kind of people that support you? We do.
Steyn, commenting on Kinsella’s anti-Nazi crusade, hits it over the fence “Just because Warren has deluded himself that his somewhat specialized hobby of toilet photography is serving a vital national-security function is no reason for the RCMP, CSIS and Lord Strathcona’s Horse to be dispatched to the stall in question.”
ROFL
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
As Tim Lambert explains, it was last fall when a hilarious hoax purporting to refute man-made global warming was published. The point of the hoax was, of course, to see how enthusiastically the climate change deniers seized on something that was utter rubbish and, to no one’s surprise, a number of them bit. Hard.
The entertainment here was based on the fact that the paper was so clearly, obviously and thoroughly nonsense that it shouldn’t have taken anyone more than five minutes to figure out they were being yanked. So, yes, it was just plain funny to watch folks line up to sing its praises, only to expose themselves as utter cranks because of it.
Now, using the recent Kate McMillan logic, those gullible cranks should have had no one but themselves to blame. Not surprisingly, it didn’t work that way:
Yesterday, I posted not one but two warnings about a fraudulent website that supposedly exposed the theory of anthropogenic global warming as being completely wrong. I posted in my update who the entire thing traced back to. People are still being caught by this scam. Folks, I do not think this was a hoax. I think it was a quite intentional fraud meant to trap some dissenters. This sort of thing will probably become more common – and more sophisticated…
Again, for the search engine records: geoclimaticstudies.info is a FRAUD. Dr Hiroko Takebe of the Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. The study on the effect of benthic bacteria on global warming detailed in the “Journal of Geoclimatic Studies” is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Benthic Bacteria study + Global Warming is a FRAUD.
Hokey smoke, Bullwinkle … that entire production was a disgusting, dishonest FRAUD!!!!!! Well, of course it was, you doofus — it was a beautiful con job to expose a bunch of credulous idiots for what they are, and it worked wonderfully. And yet, notice how the exposed cranks turn the tables and make out the hoaxers to be the villains here.
I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this: When the Right are the perpetrators of the hoax, well, they’re just having fun and setting a trap and anyone who falls into it, well, that’s their fault and pay no attention to that disparaging of the Holocaust.
But when the Right are the victims of what is clearly a bit of comic genius whose only purpose was to expose a bunch of scientific buffoons, well, damn it, that’s just mean-spirited and downright cruel and a fraud and a scam and, damn it, it’s just not cricket!
what you are about is bigotry
Un freaking believable
Some people have said: this joke is in bad taste. There is an implied syllogism there, namely: if this is a joke, then it is in bad taste. But enough water has now passed under the bridge that I think I can safely conclude that this was not a joke, thus since the antecedent is falsified, the consequent is irrelevant.
No, what we have experienced here can be best described, I think, as brilliant satire noir. It is very revealing that the sorts of characters who typically celebrate such noir-ish things didn’t in this case. It is also interesting how the evolution of the evidence was ignored by many of the same people.
In my opinion, what Kate has accomplished here is akin to the pulling back of the curtain on the Wizards of Oz. As to why it takes a philistine engineer like me to explain satire noir to the supposedly arty types? Exactly. Because they are frauds.
Agreed Vitruvius. It is long past time some one pinned his ears to the clothesline and beat the stuffing out of him. I am amazed at the number of ‘conservatives’ who wish Kate’s exposure of WK had not happened because he might get mad and do something nasty.
I hope that Kate’s handi-work gets duplicated over and over again. If it happens often enough to the purveyors of political correctness Canadians might shake off the shackles that have hindered us for so long and once again Canada will take its rightful place on the world stage.
My life’s motto.
“Mischief is important.”
Kate
I would have to say, in this this venture, mission accomplished. Congrats.
After a day of heated palaver I say in the end she’s still a hot chick on a cool bike.
The email to Kinsella made no mention of Nazis, Jews or death camps. This was simply a case of Kinsella jumping to conclusions and making a fool out of himself. Serves the pretentious ass right. He probably fancies himself as another Simon Weisenthal and he seems to believe that there are Nazis hiding in washrooms throughout the country.
But that’s just my opinion. Some people don’t see the black humour in jokes like this…or in posting as Lavrenty Beria.
WK “…but most respondents, conservatives included, are appalled by what she did.”
Is this what it takes? I am liberal and I think WK is a jackass!!!! …. !!!!!!!
Adopting the online identity of a prolific torturer, murderer and sexual predator is not my idea of a good joke.
But hey, the french love Jerry Lewis.
That’s a rather hurtful way to write about Jerry Lewis.
I’m not up on tattoos … when I saw WK’s post, well, I thought prison tattoos. So I did a google search on prison tattoo (hope that doesn’t outrage).
As it turns out, a butterfly tattoo on the ankle is not the most popular in the pen. Just for fun check out 88 (you were paying for it … until Day put a stop it).
Symbolism … it’s what you want it to be.
I’ve been arguing against Kinsella on this topic for a long time, but on this one I’m with him. This wasn’t funny, this wasn’t a prank, this was just a quick and easy way for you to make a fool of yourself in front of the world(or at least, Canadian political blog readers, which is a little like the world). Next time you get a “funny” idea, try not to make the entire body of free speech supporters look like a pack of morons.
Alsadius,
You don’t speak for the “entire body of free speech supporters”. If you feel like a moron …
Congratulations Kate on exposing the fraudulent phony and letting him do it to himself……..Priceless
Just a thought…..You don’t suppose the Nazi photo in the potty could have been faked……No, WK and his ilk wouldn’t stoop that low…..or would they……Just askin’
You rock Kate and the bike is nice too……
Hey
Where’s all the posts from KEVron?
He mildly tweaks KKKaty and the rest of you – and his posts are banished.
Way to defend freedom of speech!
Awww, was KKKate’s feelin’s hurt?
Couldn’t she withstand the tweaking from KEVron?
Awwww, poor bay-beeee!
Ah, I suppose it’s all to be expected. You’re all just a bunch of cowardly racists who haven’t even got the guts to admit it freely like the lowliest white supremacist.
Chief among you is your snaggle-toothed big-butt leader KKKate who’s real brave gunning down an animal or posing on her scooter, but has to delete the posts of KEVron ’cause they hurt her feeewings!
Poor bay-beeeeeee!
So does Jason Cherniak have any problem of being a member of a party that is proud to have been led by a Nazi supporter who had a vicious, bigoted tyrant as a pall-bearer? No?
Right, because they are all loving enablers of continuous crimes against humanity for 70 years. The LPC is a war crime – they deserve the Spandau ballet.
Reading up on the background to this sordid affair, I stumbled across Jonathan Kay’s Feb 7 National post comment (“JK on WK and the fetishization of racial hatred”), in which he describes Canada’s “far right network” as: “any number of obscure groups that seek to kick out the immigrants or blame our problems on the Jews. But dig a little deeper, and you inevitably find the “group” consists of one or two pitiful old cretins operating out of a Yahoo! Mail account and someone’s basement.”
And then it occurs to me that there are a great many commenters on SDA who also seek to kick out immigrants and/or blame our problems on the Muslims/First Nations/blacks/etc.
Nothing more than curious coincidence, I’m sure.
This is fabulous. Seems that a few people think any reference to something disturbing, is “tasteless.” Honestly, I don’t even know what that means. Does it mean that I am never supposed to speak of any subject that can lead to uncomfortable feelings in others?
Sending the image was brilliant. The numbers do not look at all like a camp tattoo. From the email Kate sent, I would have been very suspicious and done some research. Having the number be related to Kate’s motorcycle and the faked photo is priceless.
Excellent job Kate. Mischief rules.
Yeah, volik, that’s probably why all 50 or so of KEvron’s postings were deleted — he was hurting Kate’s feelings.
Either that, or you know, he was a post troll having one-line conversations with himself for the express purpose of shutting down meaningful debate.
But yeah, you could be right. And Kinsella could be a functioning adult, too, but I wouldn’t bet the milk money on either.
wehew…smells clean in here again…someone swept up the troll feces.
Last word on the matter:
We have had a lengthy thread here…I see SDA commentors put out a plethora of reasoned argument to witch I see the free speech haters with leftard convictions (yes Daly you’re one too) only responded with insults, threats, libelois accusation and innuendo and bogus moral superiority or totally irrational illtempered blather. I did see 3 well constructed civil naysayer posts but these were all based in their Christian ethics.
To sum: to this point, there has not been an articulate, civil, reasoned refutation of Kate’s “right to prank a prankster” by the mouth breathers who inhabit the left end of the gene pool AND the same lot who wade in the shallow end of the intellectual pool, have not made a rational defense of Kinsella’s stupidity and the witch hunt for Canada’s vast nazi conspiracy that venal naivity drives…we’re still waiting.
….and uh, Kate; keep the moonbat netting up. I don’t mind well reasoned argument but there were just too many nihilist toddlers in here pooping all over the furnature and screaming over the adults to get attention.
For probably the first time(and maybe last?), I agree with lberia.
Kate’s email to Kinsella was a perfect confrontation of his arrogant self-defined certainty that what HE sees and thinks is The Truth.
So, if he sees a scrawled swastika in a boy’s washroom, he doesn’t think; he doesn’t consider context, he just mechanically jumps to only ONE interpretation – There are Nazis here!
Not, it’s kids fooling around. Nope; Kinsella doesn’t think. The image comes into his view and like a machine, he has only one response: Nazis are here.
The acorn falls – and The Sky Is Falling!
So, Kate showed him up as a mechanical, non-thinker. She sends him a tatoo on an arm. Could be for a gang, could be for a prison, could be for anything. But Kinsella ignores context, ignores multipe interpretations. He’s a mechanical switch.
The emails on his blog were almost 100% not from readers; he doesn’t have that many and he doesn’t allow comments. No, with Kinsella’s ties to Warman and the CJC, they were requests from him to write. They weren’t even written in the ad hoc style of blogging; they were email letters.
Kinsella is an egoistical person, who doesn’t think but reacts according to embedded opinions. His reactions are immediate, without thought, and violent. Notice his constant threats to sue, his constant name-calling…. Let him yell.
Volik, go tell it to Kinsella.
He uses the same image as a prop to shore up his ‘nazi hunter’ cred.
When Kinsella does it it’s fine.
When Kate does it it’s ‘anti-semitic.
Neither suffered the Holocaust.
Both used it’s images albeit fake.
One is a defender of human rights.
One is a anti-semitic bigot.
Classic Liberal double standard.
Actually Volik it the Holocaust card was one that he was going to play anyway. Kate saw it coming and came up with a sting to expose Kinsella and his playing of the Holocaust card for the self serving, exploitive move that it was. And used an obvious looking fake to do it with which makes Kinsella look all the more foolish.
Warrens co-opting of the Holocaust to use as a stick to beat his oppontents with, when his Liberal government voted for virtually every anti Israel resolution to come down the pipe at the UN, is hypocracy writ about as large as it gets.
Best thread in ages. Agree or disagree with the tattoo post, it still exposes WK as the dimwit he really is. The trolls can’t get past the mock outrage of PC-think to see it for what it is, the best lampoon of a public figure in a long, long time.
this statement speaks volumes:
“How right you are. These wretches make unfounded accusations of racism and bigotry on one hand, while marching in Hezbollah parades, condemning Israel, spewing anti-Zionist rants and supporting Islamofascist racist freaks against Steyn and Levant”
No but it does lend some insight into his feckless tasteless prank on Christians and Stockwell Day.
I see there’s suddenly a lot of members of Kinsella Youth here spreading Big Lies.
Herr Kinsella must be proud of them. I’m sure he’ll promote them to Brownshirts in a hurry!
I want to thank Kate, her readers and commentors. I’ve had more hits related to my participation in this donnybrook the last two days than…ever probably.
Let me leave with this little bag of wisdom: all this left/right stuff has become irrelevant. Don’t you think? How many are really interested or invested in partisan politics anymore? So the myriad insults intended to demean a person’s partisan political preference seem a waste of time.
A few of y’all are very funny, though. Maybe some stand up gigs would be good on the weekends. Finally, on the issues of racism and bigotry, you know what they say about the Foo, right? See you in the cartoons. I’ll check in to see if Kate comes out of the witness protection program anytime soon….
No doubt, John Daly, a childish link-whore like you would not get ANY hits, if you were not such a childish parasite.
All right, guys. Stop feeding the troll.
So while queen kinsella is our scouring arena bathrooms for some merit, any merit, not even fussy if it ain’t his own, his merry band of junior sock puppets comment on this site like rapid little skunks?
Hee hee!
They always name call when losing face on point.
Always.
Wish they’d find a new tactic, yawn, it’s getting old.
Heading for a more adult thread where these babies are seldom heard from. ( or not for long anyway )
http://www.no-libis.com
WLMR: Hey CC perhaps if you took the time to spell “holocaust” correctly you moral concern over it’s use as a political football may have some validity.
Um, that should be “your”, and “its”.. people in glass houses…
sorry kate,
http://www.no-libs.com
Kate,
I used to have an RD-400. I could get air in the first five gears (often unintentionally!). One time, travelling from Toronto to London, I took advantage of a tailwind and big hill to get it up to 120 mph. That’s the fastest I’ve ever moved without being on an airplane!
But then I got scared and slowed down. The image of me hitting a rock suddenly overwhelmed me..
Mindless. Absolutely mindless Kate. Dead animals indeed but you certainly don’t speak for the folks of Saskatchewan.
WK’s version of free speech is on his site – everyone agrees with him.
No dissent.
No discussion.
No thought.
No tolerance.
No freedom.
No speech.
Ballpoint pen;2 dollars,nice little bike;about $6,000, hoisting a self-obsessed wannabe punk on his own petard;priceless. Way to go.
So, Warren took the bait, swallowed the leader, lead weights (david suzuki approved) and about five feet of 30lb test and now is trying to puke them up.
The only unfortunate thing about this whole story as it unfolds on the web, is that depending on when a person weighs in, is that one must know the story from the start (Warrens’ bathroom graffiti) or that will effect their decision on who is right or wrong/left.
Good Luck Kate, my Nubile Queen !!!
Care to elaborate Klein? Seems it was anything but mindless.
Don’t take any chit from them, Kate! I busted a gut laughing once the joke was explained. What a delightful way to kick some self important pompous arse in the ass! You drove that particular point home with a sledge hammer.
I would like to think that in a country like Canada, we would have better guys than Kinsella defending the Pore Joooos from the evil chit house Nazis that infest the nation.
I was out for a few hours, and have conducted some clean up on this thread to excise a troll and anything resembling a response to same. I don’t know what was deleted – I didn’t read any of them. In the future, refrain from hitting the post key and you may avoid wasting both my time or yours.
KATE
that’s a classic gotcha:-))))
and to all the “I am insulted holocaust survivor’s son/daughter”, grow up!!!!
my father spent 2 years in a C camp, and wuz damn lucky to get out alive as gypsys had the worst survival rate of any targeted group, and I do NOT find Kate’s “trick” offensive!!!
It’s clear in my mind that the motivation behind this post wasn’t to trivial the Holocaust, but to toy with Mr Kinsella. On that score, mission accomplished.
It’s also clear in my mind that Kate isn’t an anti-Semite, and indeed, has consistently defended Israeli interests here on SDA.
Having said that, it’s also clear in my mind that her support for Israel derives not from any particular deep-seated compassion or affinity for the Jewish people — or else she would never have exploited this iconic and highly sensitive image from the Holocaust for personal gain, however clever her ruse — but rather because it suits her purposes. Kinsella is no doubt a buffoon who seized upon the email a little too quickly, and his post-hoc claim to the moral high ground is obviously calculated. But given the highly specific and historical significance that a numbered tattoo on one’s forearm carries for anyone of Jewish descent, Kate’s willingness to risk such great offense simply to advance a personal quarrel is callous indeed.
Kate may very well be a Friend of Israel, but she is a partisan first.
Well done Kate for cutting the trolls!
And a spectacular job of hoisting Warren on his own petard!
I rather doubt that the Red Star in Toronto could find much value in his screeds after the blogosphere pummeling he has taken for the red herrings he tossed in after his obvious embarrassment.
Gravitas?
Not much that I can see, nor I suspect will any MSM in the future.
Mischief isn’t everything …… it’s the only thing .
Stanley:
Josef Stalin killed 10 million of his own citizens.
My mother’s family were luckier. They were sent to Siberia where my grandfather died of starvation.
There is no imagery that the survivors or their children can be offended at … only forgiveness and a realization that there’s a time to move on.
Remember that Jews were not the only victim group in history. There are many sad tales in many cultures.
You’re not as unique as you’d like everybody else to believe. Kinsella can play on that never-ending wailing and never-ending agony that has been allowed to cling and destroy the psyche, instead of letting go and being truly free from something that cannot be changed.
Continue to be haunted, if you must.
Most of my fellow travellers from the former Soviet Union live happier lives in Canada because they realize they cannot live in the past and are content to build a better future here.
Kate: all bulls–t aside, are you going to write anything on this issue (of your prank)? You have dozens of readers who are spinning and interpreting your motivation. I understand how SDA works, having spent the weekend at SDA High being schooled. I understand that you post links, mostly, and then open things up for discussion.
Maybe this situation is worthy of your making an exception. I wonder if you are willing to set aside whatever pissoff you may (or may not) have with folks like me, who have and still maintain what you are about is bigotry, to write something here as regards your thinking on the Kinsella/Holocaust survivor “joke”
You are cruel, Kate. Not that I’m criticizing, mind you, just commenting is all.
Hey Warren, do you see the kind of people that support you? We do.
Steyn, commenting on Kinsella’s anti-Nazi crusade,
hits it over the fence
“Just because Warren has deluded himself that his somewhat specialized hobby of toilet photography is serving a vital national-security function is no reason for the RCMP, CSIS and Lord Strathcona’s Horse to be dispatched to the stall in question.”
ROFL
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
As Tim Lambert explains, it was last fall when a hilarious hoax purporting to refute man-made global warming was published. The point of the hoax was, of course, to see how enthusiastically the climate change deniers seized on something that was utter rubbish and, to no one’s surprise, a number of them bit. Hard.
The entertainment here was based on the fact that the paper was so clearly, obviously and thoroughly nonsense that it shouldn’t have taken anyone more than five minutes to figure out they were being yanked. So, yes, it was just plain funny to watch folks line up to sing its praises, only to expose themselves as utter cranks because of it.
Now, using the recent Kate McMillan logic, those gullible cranks should have had no one but themselves to blame. Not surprisingly, it didn’t work that way:
Yesterday, I posted not one but two warnings about a fraudulent website that supposedly exposed the theory of anthropogenic global warming as being completely wrong. I posted in my update who the entire thing traced back to. People are still being caught by this scam. Folks, I do not think this was a hoax. I think it was a quite intentional fraud meant to trap some dissenters. This sort of thing will probably become more common – and more sophisticated…
Again, for the search engine records: geoclimaticstudies.info is a FRAUD. Dr Hiroko Takebe of the Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. The study on the effect of benthic bacteria on global warming detailed in the “Journal of Geoclimatic Studies” is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Benthic Bacteria study + Global Warming is a FRAUD.
Hokey smoke, Bullwinkle … that entire production was a disgusting, dishonest FRAUD!!!!!! Well, of course it was, you doofus — it was a beautiful con job to expose a bunch of credulous idiots for what they are, and it worked wonderfully. And yet, notice how the exposed cranks turn the tables and make out the hoaxers to be the villains here.
I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this: When the Right are the perpetrators of the hoax, well, they’re just having fun and setting a trap and anyone who falls into it, well, that’s their fault and pay no attention to that disparaging of the Holocaust.
But when the Right are the victims of what is clearly a bit of comic genius whose only purpose was to expose a bunch of scientific buffoons, well, damn it, that’s just mean-spirited and downright cruel and a fraud and a scam and, damn it, it’s just not cricket!
what you are about is bigotry
Un freaking believable
Some people have said: this joke is in bad taste. There is an implied syllogism there, namely: if this is a joke, then it is in bad taste. But enough water has now passed under the bridge that I think I can safely conclude that this was not a joke, thus since the antecedent is falsified, the consequent is irrelevant.
No, what we have experienced here can be best described, I think, as brilliant satire noir. It is very revealing that the sorts of characters who typically celebrate such noir-ish things didn’t in this case. It is also interesting how the evolution of the evidence was ignored by many of the same people.
In my opinion, what Kate has accomplished here is akin to the pulling back of the curtain on the Wizards of Oz. As to why it takes a philistine engineer like me to explain satire noir to the supposedly arty types? Exactly. Because they are frauds.
appropos of nothing…other than the last one is probably the most relevant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_D7WtOHZd0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4v6qRdnKas&feature=related
Agreed Vitruvius. It is long past time some one pinned his ears to the clothesline and beat the stuffing out of him. I am amazed at the number of ‘conservatives’ who wish Kate’s exposure of WK had not happened because he might get mad and do something nasty.
I hope that Kate’s handi-work gets duplicated over and over again. If it happens often enough to the purveyors of political correctness Canadians might shake off the shackles that have hindered us for so long and once again Canada will take its rightful place on the world stage.
My life’s motto.
“Mischief is important.”
Kate
I would have to say, in this this venture, mission accomplished. Congrats.
After a day of heated palaver I say in the end she’s still a hot chick on a cool bike.
The email to Kinsella made no mention of Nazis, Jews or death camps. This was simply a case of Kinsella jumping to conclusions and making a fool out of himself. Serves the pretentious ass right. He probably fancies himself as another Simon Weisenthal and he seems to believe that there are Nazis hiding in washrooms throughout the country.
But that’s just my opinion. Some people don’t see the black humour in jokes like this…or in posting as Lavrenty Beria.
WK “…but most respondents, conservatives included, are appalled by what she did.”
Is this what it takes? I am liberal and I think WK is a jackass!!!! …. !!!!!!!
Adopting the online identity of a prolific torturer, murderer and sexual predator is not my idea of a good joke.
But hey, the french love Jerry Lewis.
That’s a rather hurtful way to write about Jerry Lewis.
I’m not up on tattoos … when I saw WK’s post, well, I thought prison tattoos. So I did a google search on prison tattoo (hope that doesn’t outrage).
As it turns out, a butterfly tattoo on the ankle is not the most popular in the pen. Just for fun check out 88 (you were paying for it … until Day put a stop it).
Symbolism … it’s what you want it to be.
I’ve been arguing against Kinsella on this topic for a long time, but on this one I’m with him. This wasn’t funny, this wasn’t a prank, this was just a quick and easy way for you to make a fool of yourself in front of the world(or at least, Canadian political blog readers, which is a little like the world). Next time you get a “funny” idea, try not to make the entire body of free speech supporters look like a pack of morons.
Alsadius,
You don’t speak for the “entire body of free speech supporters”. If you feel like a moron …
Congratulations Kate on exposing the fraudulent phony and letting him do it to himself……..Priceless
Just a thought…..You don’t suppose the Nazi photo in the potty could have been faked……No, WK and his ilk wouldn’t stoop that low…..or would they……Just askin’
You rock Kate and the bike is nice too……
Hey
Where’s all the posts from KEVron?
He mildly tweaks KKKaty and the rest of you – and his posts are banished.
Way to defend freedom of speech!
Awww, was KKKate’s feelin’s hurt?
Couldn’t she withstand the tweaking from KEVron?
Awwww, poor bay-beeee!
Ah, I suppose it’s all to be expected. You’re all just a bunch of cowardly racists who haven’t even got the guts to admit it freely like the lowliest white supremacist.
Chief among you is your snaggle-toothed big-butt leader KKKate who’s real brave gunning down an animal or posing on her scooter, but has to delete the posts of KEVron ’cause they hurt her feeewings!
Poor bay-beeeeeee!
So does Jason Cherniak have any problem of being a member of a party that is proud to have been led by a Nazi supporter who had a vicious, bigoted tyrant as a pall-bearer? No?
Right, because they are all loving enablers of continuous crimes against humanity for 70 years. The LPC is a war crime – they deserve the Spandau ballet.
Reading up on the background to this sordid affair, I stumbled across Jonathan Kay’s Feb 7 National post comment (“JK on WK and the fetishization of racial hatred”), in which he describes Canada’s “far right network” as:
“any number of obscure groups that seek to kick out the immigrants or blame our problems on the Jews. But dig a little deeper, and you inevitably find the “group” consists of one or two pitiful old cretins operating out of a Yahoo! Mail account and someone’s basement.”
And then it occurs to me that there are a great many commenters on SDA who also seek to kick out immigrants and/or blame our problems on the Muslims/First Nations/blacks/etc.
Nothing more than curious coincidence, I’m sure.
This is fabulous. Seems that a few people think any reference to something disturbing, is “tasteless.” Honestly, I don’t even know what that means. Does it mean that I am never supposed to speak of any subject that can lead to uncomfortable feelings in others?
Sending the image was brilliant. The numbers do not look at all like a camp tattoo. From the email Kate sent, I would have been very suspicious and done some research. Having the number be related to Kate’s motorcycle and the faked photo is priceless.
Excellent job Kate. Mischief rules.
Yeah, volik, that’s probably why all 50 or so of KEvron’s postings were deleted — he was hurting Kate’s feelings.
Either that, or you know, he was a post troll having one-line conversations with himself for the express purpose of shutting down meaningful debate.
But yeah, you could be right. And Kinsella could be a functioning adult, too, but I wouldn’t bet the milk money on either.
wehew…smells clean in here again…someone swept up the troll feces.
Last word on the matter:
We have had a lengthy thread here…I see SDA commentors put out a plethora of reasoned argument to witch I see the free speech haters with leftard convictions (yes Daly you’re one too) only responded with insults, threats, libelois accusation and innuendo and bogus moral superiority or totally irrational illtempered blather. I did see 3 well constructed civil naysayer posts but these were all based in their Christian ethics.
To sum: to this point, there has not been an articulate, civil, reasoned refutation of Kate’s “right to prank a prankster” by the mouth breathers who inhabit the left end of the gene pool AND the same lot who wade in the shallow end of the intellectual pool, have not made a rational defense of Kinsella’s stupidity and the witch hunt for Canada’s vast nazi conspiracy that venal naivity drives…we’re still waiting.
….and uh, Kate; keep the moonbat netting up. I don’t mind well reasoned argument but there were just too many nihilist toddlers in here pooping all over the furnature and screaming over the adults to get attention.
For probably the first time(and maybe last?), I agree with lberia.
Kate’s email to Kinsella was a perfect confrontation of his arrogant self-defined certainty that what HE sees and thinks is The Truth.
So, if he sees a scrawled swastika in a boy’s washroom, he doesn’t think; he doesn’t consider context, he just mechanically jumps to only ONE interpretation – There are Nazis here!
Not, it’s kids fooling around. Nope; Kinsella doesn’t think. The image comes into his view and like a machine, he has only one response: Nazis are here.
The acorn falls – and The Sky Is Falling!
So, Kate showed him up as a mechanical, non-thinker. She sends him a tatoo on an arm. Could be for a gang, could be for a prison, could be for anything. But Kinsella ignores context, ignores multipe interpretations. He’s a mechanical switch.
The emails on his blog were almost 100% not from readers; he doesn’t have that many and he doesn’t allow comments. No, with Kinsella’s ties to Warman and the CJC, they were requests from him to write. They weren’t even written in the ad hoc style of blogging; they were email letters.
Kinsella is an egoistical person, who doesn’t think but reacts according to embedded opinions. His reactions are immediate, without thought, and violent. Notice his constant threats to sue, his constant name-calling…. Let him yell.