New, on Facebook: Ezra Levant is a piece of shit JEW
Screenshot.
Group members:
Ali Zee – Admin (Calgary)
Usher Ahmed (Calgary)
Super Samer (Calgary)
Issam Zeineddine (Forest Lawn High School)
Khalil Jeha (Calgary)
Hussien Abdulbaki (Calgary)
Abe Rafih (Calgary)
Bassam Youssef (Lebanon)
Issam Khalil (Calgary)
Manal Abdallah (MRC CA Alum ’07)
That should give the bored among you something to do.
Update: The group now looks to have disappeared – oddly enough!
(h/t to The Greek)
We see Jew-bashing hate propaganda from “peaceful, tolerant” Muslims, naturally. Predictable. Wonder if those Muslims identified will be charged with hate crimes and their rights taken away, too? Fat chance!
We see the MSM completely drop the ball, refusing to tell the People what’s going on, in this most historic Canadian and human liberties battle, proving beyond all reasonable doubt that they serve the Leftist state apparatus and radical Islam’s rather than the Peoples’ interests.
We see the Leftist bloggers failing to grasp the meaning of Mr. Levant’s fight for his (and everyone’s) rights. They don’t realise that they’re condoning the fact that Mr. Levant’s rights are being taken away! That’s right: the Left believes it’s okay to take away peoples’ rights as long as those people aren’t Leftists, Islamofascists, homosexuals, transsexuals, murderers, rapists, abortionists…
Only ordinary, non-special, non-extremist law-abiding people can have their rights taken away, as far as “liberals/progressives” are concerned!
Should the children be brought up to the HRC….no…should they be ashamed of what they wrote and supported yes. If it is a joke it isnt funny, if it is a political statement it is sophomoric at best and if it is a real statement of feeling…well I guess we have a problem here.
Best example is to make them defend their statements in fron of their peers and community, espeialy at the school.
As well, this stuff needs to be archived, i am sure one of them will end up in some vague public capacity at some point, running for concillor etc.
As well, there is no equivalence between cartoons and those statements. The cartoons were, well cartoons. They did not state that all Muslims were terrorists, unlike the whole “money and jew” ouvre that these guys are playing with. An old old shibboleth used against jews…..
As well, there commments are targetted at an individual , as well as a group, but mostly because of that persons non voluntary memebership in that group.
IF you took hate crimes seriously and believed in the the Hate Crime legislation you would be hauling these idiots into the tribunal…all of them for joining a Facebook group, while simple and costless, is a form of support. this would be no different than having a membership card in the Ku Klux Klan…you may not ride with them but you have made your support clear.
Personally, it just deserves derision and to have some light shone on it….Perhaps an email to these peoples schools and workplaces indicating that these are the people they are working with and going to school with. Facebook is a public swuare kind of thing so it isnt like you have stolen their diary and are publishing it. And the nice thing about facebook is that people tend to tell you all about themselves.
Where are the usual suspects who find this stuff offensive and normally complain…like either of the Warren’s?
‘what a terrible thing to say. the funny thing is, before 9/11, most of you were busy being worried about the jews until you heard about the muslims. and there ain’t none of you that ever got over the negroes.’
This jeffy davidson is a world-class projector. One has to wonder if the intense hatred he feels doesn’t have him grinding his teeth to powder every night.
Great column this morning in the NP by Lorne Gunter.
Me thinks he reads the comments here /grin
OK, we got Kate (girl) Kathy (girl) Ezra (Jew) leading the Canadian right.
And that’s cool. That’s cool.
However there’s like twelve million non girl non Jewish men out there in Canada. Men of western European and Christian heritage, primarily, heirs to the tradition of Plato.
We talk and think differently than women and Jews. For example, we don’t think people should be criminally charged, or investigated by the tribunals, for using the word Jew. Most white males would look at this thread and think you people are fucking nuts and over reacting.
Speaking for Canadian men, we’re a little disappointed to see you stand up for a Jew so vigorously when the commission has been busting us for 30 years now. Do you not like us or something?
Anyway, it would be cool if there were a blog or something where non girl non Jewish men could talk and stuff. Actually it’s kind of weird that there is no popular white male conservative blog in a country of 33,000,000, I mean really weird when you think about it.
Jimbo
The Boston Massacre and the Woolworth lunch counter sit-ins were also “deliberately provocative.”
Discuss…
looks like the hate group is gone.
Former Canadian, you speak for Canadian men? Was there a meeting I missed?
You, no doubt, have the right to say what you please. That is, after all, what this whole discussion is about. Just know that you don’t speak for this WASP.
Mark Steyn demonstrates with great footwork his self-described verbal stiletto heels.
Yo!
Former Canadian?
What Jim said?
Ditto.
MT
“Speaking for Canadian men, we’re a little disappointed to see you stand up for a Jew so vigorously when the commission has been busting us for 30 years now.”
You sure as hell don’t speak for me. Freak.
Anyone notice a distinct latent homosexual overtone to the rhetoric of this group of suburban Jihadis??
Some Imam should tell these kids that Allah created goats to prevent homosexuality. đ
Right on WLMR , some Imman should explain the little picture cartoon on the screen shot . no pun intended.
In the case of Ezra, I think the word “inquisition” is far more accurate than the word “interrogation”
From Ezra Levant’s blog today, a couple quotes of note:
….the video clips I uploaded were viewed nearly 200,000 times, making them the 5th most watched “channel” on YouTube.
And,
The federal Canadian Human Rights Tribunal has a 100% conviction rate under their thought crime provision (section 13, the “hate messages” section, as it’s called). But I can’t find a single case of thought crime case that resulted in an acquittal in Alberta or federally.
Bingo!, the same stats as Stalin’s and now Putin’s show trials. You’d think just to cover their asses they’d acquit some poor sap once in awhile.
These comments are all pretty interesting, trolls aside, but I think some people are getting caught up in semantics.
While Ezera’s presentation got across his point, I do think that he was pretty close to breaking into a rant. I agree with Tomax that even though he is speaking to a kangaroo court or maybe just a clerk, he could have done it better.
Like a teenager being scolded, after the first few words, eyes glaze over and nothing is really heard. Another point is that if the MSM ever pick up the news, you can be sure the only quotes to come out of it will be the highly inflamitory ones. Valid points would only be aired if there isn’t any Brittany Spears breaking news.
I don’t mean Levant should be kowtowing to these self appointed social engineering demi-gods but don’t come across as a raving nut case either. Having said that from the safety of the sidelines, I must confess I would have probably been led away in irons for what I’d have said.
btw, does Vit ever sleep? He seems to comment (succinctly) 24/7. Must be a Tim Horton’s or other caffine supply close to his abode.
“…but to read some of the non-Muslim responses in Maclean’s or at the CBC website or The Calgary Herald is to wonder how many Canadians are auditioning to be the eunuchs in the new caliph’s harem.” – Steyn
There are obviously a few in the comments section on this blog as well.
Ezra is a lightening rod. Hopefully, with Steyn coming up to bat next, not only the HRC will be exposed for the fascist thought police that it is, but underlying Islamic hatred will as well.
The basic strategy of Islamic appeasers is not to piss the moderates off. The fact is the moderates and the terrorists all share exactly the same Quran, Hadith and Sira. The foundationally violent root of Islam.
There is no moderate Quran to support so-called ‘moderate Islam.’ What we have seen here with these facebook Muslims is that you don’t have to scratch the surface too hard to bring out the underlying hate and racism.
Muslims are taught to hate the Jews in the Quran and Hadith:
They are the devilâs minions (4:60) cursed by Allah, their faces will be obliterated (4:47), and if they do not accept the true faith of Islamâthe Jews who understand their faith become Muslims (3:113)âthey will be made into apes (2:65/ 7:166), or apes and swine (5:60), and burn in the Hellfires (4:55, 5:29, 98:6, and 58:14-19).
(Hadith, Book 041, Number 6985):
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”
Islam is dualistic, because the Quran is dualistic. Moderates can hold one position, “there’s no compulsion in religion.” (Pilfered word for word from the Talmud, BTW). Where terrorists can hold the later Medina position, (Q 9.29) “Fight (and kill) those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Although the later violent verses abrogate the earlier tame verses (Most Islamic scholars agree that Quran 9:5 abrogates no less than 124 verses that command or imply anything less than a total offensive against the non-believers), Muslims can apply either, based on what they want to believe, or who they are lying to (taqiyya, kitman).
It’s absurd and contradictory. But Islam is, if anything, completely irrational.
This is what Dr Habira, a London professor and an ex-muslim, says in his book âGodâs Tearsâ about moderate Islam:
âModerate Islam is more deadly because while the terrorists are clear enemies, the moderates make inroads into `infidelâ lands, and deceive the host cultures until the terrorists could do the dirty work. Without the moderate Islamic façade, the terrorists cannot survive because they will be quickly exposed. History is replete with example after example of this typically Muslim deceitful strategy of advanceâ.
The basis for Islamic morality is also alien. Morals in Islam are simply, whatever helps Islam is good and whatever hinders Islam is evil. Therefore killing innocent infidels in order to defend or spread Islam is considered good and holy. In other words, mass-murder is good, as proven by the actions of their prophet and sanctified by their god.
For those with even a cursory knowledge of Islam, the Muslim facebook page is actually tame.
Troll Davidson,
You notice that for the most part the right ignores race altogether but foolish leftards like you who are clearly obsessed with race are trying to project your own racist fetishes on us?
Consequently leftard, islam is not a race. Islam is a religion. Even a stupid white guilt-ridden liberal a-hole like you can convert to it. You can’t convert to another race.
So… as you are too stupid to live, I suggest you kill yourself.
Re” Kathy Shaidle “The Boston Massacre and the Woolworth lunch counter sit-ins were also “deliberately provocative.”
Discuss…”
Good point, and one well taken.
I guess my best response is that, for me, this concerns more personal feelings. I’ve never felt Ezra was so much being provocative to right a wrong, or make things better. Instead I’ve been left with an uncomfortable feeling that it was more of an attention grabbing stunt, a feeling that continues to date.
The Libertarian in me fully supports his battle against Government encroachment on our freedoms. I’m left holding my nose, however, as I don’t see it completely as a good guy/bad guy fight, and I’m left feeling it’s more about Ezra Levant grandstanding than about someone standing up for my freedoms. Part of me sees him as someone who goes around poking people in the chest. People like that bug me.
Hard for me to explain feelings.
Feelings? Whooaaa whooaaaa whooooa Feelings?
WTF do feelings have to do with having free speech taken away?
I don’t get it. Are you going to wait until they tell you that you’re going away to the gulag for booing a Prime Minister before your “feelings” allow you to see the logic of demanding free speech for everyone?
The hissing snake, Soharwardy, attempts to turn 911 into a victimfest for the worldâs Muslims:
âIslam is a faith of peace, justice and service to humanity as well as a civilizing force for humanity wherever it is introduced and established.â
An obvious and outright lie.
âEven though Islam forbids violence,â
Muhammad beheaded between 600-900 Jews of B. Qurayzah who did not fight Muslilms but were attacked, and they surrendered unconditionallyâTabari, vol.viii, ch. B. Qurayzah; Heykal, ch. the Campaign of Khandaq and B. Qurayzah, ibn Ishaq, ch. B. Qurayzah.
Quran 9:5, 9:29, etc. etc. etc.
âespecially against innocent and defenseless peopleâ
Nobody is innocent unless they are Muslim. (Hadith, Quran, Sira)
âand even though Islam has been in the west for centuries,â
Had conquered part of the west, but not in the west.
âMuslims are still left defending their faith from hatred, contempt, and ignorance as if all Muslims are responsible for the sins of a few.â
Isnât this supposed to be about 911?
Here goes the deflection, based on irrelevant equivalence:
âEveryone knows that many people have and will use religion (inappropriately) and Scriptural verses (out of context) to justify their otherwise evil behaviour. For example, many white supremacist groups use Biblical verses to rationalize their racist beliefs and behaviours and many have very Christian-sounding names for their churches and organizations. Why are they not referred to as Christian supremacists, Christian fundamentalists, or Christian extremists? We live in the age of information. Considering all the information, groups, and other resources available to western world, Muslims should not have to justify, defend, or apologize for the noble faith of Islam. There is no cause, justification, or reason for violence or terror in Islam. Islam, like the truth, speaks for itself.â
Actually, unfortunately for Islam, modern communications are exposing Islam for what it is, a foundationally violent ideology as proven in the Islamic trilogy.
â99.99% of Muslims around the world are shouting and telling the western world that they are too Against Terrorism. â
Really? I suppose the pictures of the 911 Muslim joy and happiness parades from around the world were a mirage?
âThey have also been victim of terrorism, hate and discrimination in Palestine, Kashmir, Chechnya, Kossovo, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, India, Burma, USA, Canada, UK and many other countries but the voice of 1.5 billion Muslims falls on deaf ears. Do we know why?â
Yeah, because your prophet and god command and reward Muslims to kill, convert, or enslave everyone on the planet.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/soharwardy5.html
Re: Johnboy
“I don’t get it. Are you going to wait until they tell you that you’re going away to the gulag for booing a Prime Minister before your “feelings” allow you to see the logic of demanding free speech for everyone?”
Kathy asked me to discuss, and I did. Did you miss the part where I said I fully support his battle against Government encroachment on our freedoms? Read it again if you did.
“John West. Congratulations. You were the sucker who took the troll’s bait. Pretty dumb.”
(BCer, 11:50 PM)
I agree, BCer.
Go ahead John West, hit me with the bricks, too.
Hey, Jimbo, “grandstanding” and “attention grabbing stunt”?, come on, what else is it going to take to make Stalin’s legacy to socialist Canada go away? Think of all of the Little People that have been ground up in that Orwellian tribunal without one iota of attention given to them. Thank God that Ezra has the gravitas, the wits to demand his session be videotaped and the verbal eloquence, so be it if it was laced with sarcasm, to bring his ordeal onto the national stage.
In the old Stalin/Beria days one could obtain a better apartment by denouncing a neighbor. Fast forward to the present and change the motives. What a fabulous weapon handed to any pathetic underdeveloped personality with a score to settle than denouncing a person or opinion that they don’t like than to file a hate crime charge. If you are going to filter this through you feelings, being enraged on behalf of Ezra is the only valid one as I see it.
You really aren’t up to the task of defending the ancient Anglo-Saxon right of free speech and defending the individual against the King. Libertarian, you aren’t.
Former Canadian, I am sure KKK has a blog, if not try one of the Neo-Nazi ones.
“It is permitted to kill a Jew”
An Iranian’s story on leaving Islam:
“At school from the day one we had a special teacher appointed by the Mullahs to teach us Quran and Islamic ideology. There were so many of these teachers and they looked so much like our parents. They couldn’t all be wrong, we understood unconsciously. I remember quite clearly that when I was just 12 years old our teacher told us that it is permitted to kill a Jew. When we brought up the practical difficulties of killing a Jew he hinted that we may like to kill him first and leave the body in some inconspicuous place like our school lavatories. I had two Jewish friends at school. Fortunately I wasn’t of a mind to put the instructions into action. We were still too young to take action by ourselves.”
“questioning in Islam is allowed only if it is intended to increase your conviction. Again I was encouraged to view this as the true spirit of Islam and following the example of Muhammad. I was told that Muhammad himself and our Imams were capable of falling into murderous fits of rage and displaying “outward signs of furious anger.” At such times heads rolled, literally.”
“As I learned more of the language (English) I realised that concepts like humanity and morality have totally different interpretations in the west…”
“Last week it chanced that I was directed by a search engine to this website. The section titled “stories not told before” immediately caught my attention. I stayed up till 5 in the morning and read about half of it. I went to bed and woke up next afternoon convinced that I’m a Muslim no longer.”
“Here I must emphasize the importance of works like this in dissipating the remaining doubts of other would-be ex-Muslims. Cut off as we are from reliable information and scholarly works on Islam, and at the same time being aggressively indoctrinated from an early age, the need for similar material tailored for half-hearted Muslims and also ordinary westerners cannot be overestimated. True history of Islam is an effective tool that deals the final blow to Islamism by laying naked its thread bare foundations.”
“Tell the true story of Islam, save civilization!”
The application of reason, not appeasement, creates apostates from Islam.
islam-watch.org/Emir/Leaving-Islam-When-truth-comes-in-Mullahs-jump-out-the-window.htm
I sure hope that Former Canadian’s name is not misleading, I don’t want any current Canadians like that. In fact, the thought of anyone in our country thinking like that is sickening.
I was just wondering how many of the (ahem) gentlemen who subscribed to this facebook group attend an institution of higher learning where their conduct outside of the campus may be called into question. I seem to recall a university in Ottawa (Carleton?) where you could actually be kicked out of the school for conduct that was contrary to school policies.
Anybody have spare time to do some research and file a complaint to various schools over participation in this facebook group?
It seems to me that the HRCs are being used to promote a certain agenda, because they seem to work. Now, what happens when you use other effective tools…..
What if this conduct got you kicked out of Law School? The system needs help to weed out the troublemakers.
I will do what little I can.
Re: Penny
Once again, did you miss the part where I said I fully support his battle against Government encroachment on our freedoms?
And as for defending ancient Anglo-Saxon rights, you’re right, I’m not defending them, as compared to fundamental human rights, and those entrenched in the Canadian Bill of Rights. They do not distinguish between Anglo-Saxons and Muslims, if I remember correctly.
I agree the HRC should be put back in it’s place, but it’s hardly on the level of Stalin. That’s the same kind of ridiculous hyperbole used by those who compare Bush to Hitler.
But you’re right about one thing – a Libertarian I’m not.
well if any of them are attending a “professional school” then there can be repercussions
Med, dentists, law, if they are going for CA or P eng these things can be an issue since there are professional codes, generally related to work…but if you dont have the designation yet it can be a problem getting it if you kick up this kind of crap.
Imagine if anyone of them is in teachers college, as much as I am loath to call that a professional designation……anyway, imagine one of those members showing up as a student teacher.
As I said above, archive the names….I am sure they will show up again in the next 5 to 10 years.
….”did you miss the part where I said I fully support his battle against Government encroachment on our freedoms?”
Nope.
But, you missed that part where I said “defending the ancient Anglo-Saxon right of free speech“. Muslims don’t have that tradition to defend. Ezra and Mark Steyn are victims of Muslim attempts to muzzle their free speech.
….but it’s hardly on the level of Stalin
Excuse me, we are talking about a government tribunal dedicated to arbitrarily punishing speech with a 100% conviction rate. I don’t like your opinion, I file a complaint, convicted gauranteed. Sure, you don’t go to the physical gulag, but, every other parallel is pretty historically compelling.
The HRC distinguishs between between Anglo-Saxons(no protection status) and Muslims(protected minority status) in its behavior and outcomes, that’s the point here. Here’s how your law is written: “The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.” The CHRC relies on that caveat which basically allows the state to override free speech where the state sees fit.
Just to be clear, for those folks who don’t understand where this HRC road leads, here’s the future, now:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019553.php
And to ‘Former Canadian’ that’d be Robert McLelland’s blog you’re looking for.
“compared to fundamental human rights, and those entrenched in the Canadian Bill of Rights. They do not distinguish between Anglo-Saxons and Muslims, if I remember correctly.”
If you mean by that – Universal Human Rights as enshrined by the UN – these are rights that Muslims manipulate for their own benefit, while subscribing to their own rights as enshrined by the 19th Islamic Conference:
“The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam”
Adopted and Issued at the Nineteenth Islamic Conference
of Foreign Ministers in Cairo
on 5 August 1990.
The Member States of the Organization of the Islamic Conference,
Reaffirming the civilizing and historical role of the Islamic Ummah which God made the best nation that has given mankind a universal and well-balanced civilization in which harmony is established between this life and the hereafter and knowledge is combined with faith; and the role that this Ummah should play to guide a humanity confused by competing trends and ideologies and to provide solutions to the chronic problems of this materialistic civilization.
Wishing to contribute to the efforts of mankind to assert human rights, to protect man from exploitation and persecution, and to affirm his freedom and right to a dignified life in accordance with the Islamic Shariâah.
Article 22
(a) Everyone shall have the right to express his opinion freely in such manner as would not be contrary to the principles of the Shariâah.
(b) Everyone shall have the right to advocate what is right, and propagate what is good, and warn against what is wrong and evil according to the norms of Islamic Shariâah.
(c) Information is a vital necessity to society. It may not be exploited or misused in such a way as may violate sanctities and the dignity of Prophets, undermine moral and ethical values or disintegrate, corrupt or harm society or weaken its faith.
Of which the final two articles say:
Article 24
All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari’ah.
Article 25
The Islamic Shari’ah is the only source of reference for the explanation or clarification to any of the articles of this Declaration.
Penny
The Canadian Bill of Rights, absolutely, and pointedly, does not distinguish between the rights of Muslims and Anglo-Saxons, period.
Re: “The HRC distinguishs between between Anglo-Saxons(no protection status) and Muslims(protected minority status) in its behavior and outcomes, that’s the point here.”
No, that’s not the point. The point has to do with limits to free speech. We should have the freedom to be offensive, as the cartoons clearly are to Muslims, but they would cross the line if, for example, they incited violence or served to deny Muslims the same basic rights as all Canadians.
If the HRC is discriminating against Anglo-Saxons, as you suggest, then that’s a serious problem, but it’s not THIS problem.
Jimbo – for your information that ‘scrap of paper’ you mention, you call it the Canadian Bill of Rights, I am not sure what the proper name is; is a blueprint of the ‘scrap of paper’ that Lenin wrote for the Russian people after he and his terrorists toppled the only Democratic government EVER elected in that country, we should all know what happened there!
Like Cretian, Stalin and his minions modified the ‘charter’ to fit into the real agenda of the writer but the ‘intent’ was never lost.
Canadians had the BNA Act to protect our rights and our freedom before the dark days of the Liberano/Power Corp occupation; this corrupt gang swept our freedom under the rug via a ‘baby boom’ bubble of spoiled demanding teenagers who were indoctrinated by left wing teachers. I am old enough to remember my peers gushing over Turdo – ‘Treaudeaumania’ it was called after the Beatlemania thingie. I was not old enough to vote but I was old enough to yap and much to my shame I remember asking my Dad why he was voting for underwear (Stanfield). Four years later I knew why he had voted for Mr. Stanfield and I apologized for my more than stupid, ignorant remarks – I was saved from treason by one year of age!!
Turdo like Lenin got a grip on the soft underbelly of the citizens – cowards and weaklings and apologists (people like Turdo, himself, who had no war stories to tell because he was rooting – from the safe sidelines of a rich mans kid who bought his way free of the draft – for the wrong side!!) and Baby boomer brats who were sick of the ‘work ethic’ of their very honorable parents and grandparents. Added to the work ethic was the duty to ones country lessons – my parents and grandparents on both sides of my family had been patriots (and many of them soldiers) in both WWI and WWII. – cowardly acts were ridiculed and all grievances about our ‘hard lot’ in life were brushed aside with real hardship stories. Turdo was the answer to our selfish little dreams because he demonized our parents and grandparents by ridiculing everything they did and everything they stood for – the Liberanos even did away with the flag that they had fought for – he did all this in such a slimy, underhanded way that some soldiers were taken in at first.
My hope is that Canadians have finally opened their eyes to what ‘almost happened’ here and will swallow their juvenile pride (as I did) and turn the page on this shameful chapter in Canada’s history. Sort of like the Czech republic has done. The state has no RIGHT to tell citizens what to drive, what to eat, where to sell their produce, what to buy, what school to send their children to, what morals to teach, what clothes to wear, where and when they can smoke tobacco, what to think, what to say….we tell the state all those things and they act accordingly because we, the people, pay the bills.
Many Baby Boomers have gone from pampers to depends without a break for adult hood. They will rant and rave about their ‘entitlements’ (eg Trust Fund fiasco) but they will always vote with their eye on the next guaranteed $$ so say you refuse to pay for them in their depends unless they support a government that will honor individual rights and freedoms and they will shut up and vote for whatever dole they can get.
Are you a Boomer (age 50 to 60) Jimbo?
Thank you, batb (Jan. 13 @ 11:11), for your eloquent analysis of the present situation in our benighted country, which has altogether turned its back on our Judeo-Christian value system: this squandering of our moral capitalâyou canât deny faith while expecting its benefitsâwhich is the underlying root of both our present confusion and lack of will to stand and be counted. But, sadly, even at SDA, no one here seems to notice.
There’s a lot of hand wringing at SDAâjustifiablyâabout how wrong things are going. “Help! The wolves are eating the sheep. We must do something!”
batb has pointed out on this thread the fact that the gate to the sheep pen’s been left open. From reading the many posts since, even those, who deplore the death of the sheep, seem willing to ignore the obvious.
Jimbo, I believe you dissemble: your squeamishness about Levant publishing the cartoons “offensive to Muslims” sounds pretty inauthentic to me. If you support freedom of expression, which you say you do, what’s the problem?
BTW, these cartoons are about as offensive as someone saying to a Christian, “I worship God on the golf course”. (Has anyone ever been murdered for that?) If, Jimbo, you’re really sensitive to religious insensitivity, how about the U of Saskatchewan cartoon, of a couple of years ago, of Jesus fellating a manâI think it was a homosexual actâa la Monica Lewinsky/Clinton? Please direct me to the post at SDA where you deplore this desecration. BTW, what are your thoughts on the Piss Christ (crucifix immersed in the artistâs urine), a statue of the Virgin Mary covered in dung, and the latestâin the news todayâof a depiction of Christ with an erection (not the first)? Where were/are you, Jimbo, concerning these? (Iâm very sure you have no problem with the artists freely expressing their visions. But, what Iâd like to know: are you at all uncomfortable with the hurt feelings of Christians?)
Re my comment, “[T]hese [Muslim] cartoons are about as offensive as someone saying to a Christian, ‘I worship God on the golf course’. (Has anyone ever been murdered for that?)”
I guess, re “golf widows”, maybe someone has committed murder! But that’s a topic for another day, another thread . . .
…back to future.
I read the comments and pondered them as suggested and still stand by my comments.
Ezra lowered himself to the level of the HRC by comments like ‘interrogation’, ‘thug’, and so on.
I’m guilty of loosing it, so not claiming sainthood, yet, but if I knew I was being video taped as well as been seen by Lord knows how many on YouTube, I’d maybe, just maybe act a little more, can I say it, mature.
Let’s put this in a more simpler term:
“two wrongs don’t make a right.”
(Yes yes, but four do. nar nar.)
I don’t agree with you tomax7.
It’s stage craft. These meddlers, operating as they do in the shadows need the full light and weight of public opinion to expose and melt their pernicious and illegal raison de etre.
200,000 hits on YouTube prove it.
As far as Jimbo’s opinion is concerned, he admitted it, in his world, ‘feelings’ trump facts. It’s irrational.
From what spurious segment of society have we heard that before?
irwin, you are entitled to disagree, just like I am without fear of being called a name.
It does however, seem if anyone disagrees with someone who is labeled ‘a crusader’ is labeled a liberal or leftist.
I still say, two wrongs don’t make a right.
While 200,000 hits is nice, it doesn’t prove anything. I can probably point to some animal kittie porn with more hits.
I’m not saying the HRC is right in this, but they are indeed acting on a complaint, which is their job.
Funny, some on here will hoot and holler about some sort of control or group being in place to pass a decision on a native chief guy in another post who called Jews a racist name.
While name calling and bigotry is wrong, we still need some sort of control. Faulty as they may be, at least there is a HRC.
Despite the claims by Ezra to defend free speech he is suing both FFWD and me for $100,000 and why you ask?
Because I wrote a simple letter that was published in FFWD. thats it. He says his speech is covered in political speech- Well I say BS-$#%^&% EZRA!
Why is it ok for Ezra to call Syed nasty names in public, but when I write a letter critical of him I need to be sued.
If you would like more info or donate to my legal fund please email me at merlet@shaw.ca
Tomax7, let’s see if I get this straight, you’re offended that Ezra used the words “thug” and “interrogation”?
Hey, as a man hauled in off of the streets by agents of the state to answer to a charge that should have been dismissed on first sight, expected to be be repectful of this Kafkaesque travisty, spend serious money out of pocket for an outcome that has been 100% non-acquital, Ezra is expected to use polite wording, get real.
Good on him that he carefully crafted an opening salvo to hurl at this ridiculous fascist agency and their agents.
Mark Steyn steps up to the plate next, don’t watch. It will only upset you.
What goes around, comes around.
http://dustmybroom.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1732&Itemid=1
pparently Ezra contacted the rag to get an apology and retraction for the article and the published letter, didn’t get it and is now suing Fast Forward Weekly for the Lowering the standard article and letter writer Terlesky for a combined total of $100,000 for libel.
What does this all mean? Hell if I know as I’m not a lawyer but this looks no different to me then the Canadian Islamic Congress vs Mark Steyn scenario. Maybe Ezra should file a human rights complaint.
Just to clarify, I’m not comparing libel with being offended.
In my world, I’d merge Alberta, Sask and South Eastern BC into one province, country, whatever.
It would become an economic powerhouse.
Manitoba, and Northwestern Ontario, once they decide what fence they want to sit on can join us at any time.
Lower Mainland?
Make pot smoking legal, jackhammer the area off and let them float into a Pacific sunset…
What goes around, comes around.
tomax7, as you’ve added Trelesky into the dicussion at 9;55, at 9:51 on a thread above Terlesky(?) made a appearance, strangely coincidental isn’t it.
A libel suit initiated by an individual in open court versus the HRC kanagaroo court are two different animals. Is Ezra being a hypocrit suing Terlesky, don’t know the details on that case, but, he sure isn’t one in his position with the HRC.
…i’m guilty of throwing fuel on the fire.
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My apology, but I’m not Ezra’s biggest fan.
…as I said, two wrongs don’t make a right.
“Mark Steyn steps up to the plate next, don’t watch. It will only upset you.”
Why should I watch him? I’d expect something like that, so I wouldn’t be surprised. I’d expect something sensational out of Ezra, but I’m not surprised.
What I am surprised about is all the cultist oogling over him at the moment.
People do strange things under the camera lights. Forget who said that, but how fitting.
Tomax, there are many Manitobans that would be proud to call the Republic of Western Canada home. I’m sure you could even extend that line a little farther east to include Thunder Bay.
We’re all just biding our time, waiting for the old Liberals to die off….
tomax7,
You don’t speak for me in this matter … and that’s OK. BTW: I don’t care what what you think of EL … not like I think will have effect on what you think will have any effect.
I may (or not) agree with with EL … but I stand behind him 100%, and what he says (rough sh*t and all), about any phony org (that claims to speak for me … and I’m paying for it) – I agree with.
I can’t help but believe I have met the pseudo-realists … and you are one of them … plus many more of the commenter’s. Pathetic, I think, but I wasn’t trained in PC.