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No opened bridge, no tolls. That’ll hurt the old pocket book.
Now can we separate Alberta? I don’t want to pickup the tab.
No tolls?
Who’s not getting the tolls?
The trolls?
Who dreamed up this bridge scheme?
With every day there’s a new note regarding Canada’s incompetent federal gov’t.
Someone should give PM Marx Carnage a microphone, just wind him up and let him go…
$5.7 Billion who cares?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe_International_Bridge
Eight years for Trudeau to build a bridge? That’s a long time.
The cockwomble shut down construction for several years due to covid.
Good thing it’s not a train.
The familial nepotistic favor-laden gravy train for the underworked unmotivated slightly retarded cousin of America, the Dominion of Canada, is officially over.
Funny. While the US was displaying its underworked, unmotivated and slightly retarded nature by twice electing Obama (Biden as well), Canada had the most conservative government in the world under PM Stephen Harper. Both of our countries suffer from fickle voters and traitorous MSM. President Trump (bless him but ..) drove Canuck voters into another suicidal election of the glossy Liberals with his bad math about how our economies intertwine. We love him but, gawd, how he can screw things up.
I’ll wait for the DTS infected crew to post, so I can get a laff out of them, john shittrick should be hilarious!
Another crown corps doing things that the government shouldn’t be doing if there was any other option.
Do we have any idea how the projects look now that it’s a$6 billion project?
It’s a bridge. Building transportation infrastructure has long been considered a public purview.
Tell that to the liberal role model Governor Hair Gel.
So is health care. How’s that going?
(Go on. Go on. Say that all “the studies” say Canada and Cuba’s health care is world-class. You know you want to.)
You’re saying governments should not be involved in building bridges? Are you taking the Trump administration to task for funding many bridges, like the I-55 America’s River Crossing Bridge Replacement? Or are your criticisms for Canada only?
Universal health care is as much a no-brainer as K-12 education, paved roads and all the other no-toll amenities that we take for granted. The problem in both of our countries is that bureaucracies RULE, whether government or “private”. Health designated monies made available to individuals as free as social security cheques would immediately lower costs and raise service delivery because, .. well, capitalism. The same people always pay; the objective should be greater freedom for the patient and a whole lot less bureaucracy.
I’ve seen more impressive public purviews at cat shows.
Trump is getting more bizarre by the day. I don’t think anyone can read that and think this guy is all there.
American barriers to Canadian goods, notably in lumber and steel, have had far greater affect than Canadian barriers to US goods. Further, their lumber tariffs have repeatedly been found to be illegal both by the World Trade Organization and by the NAFTA panel whose job it is to assess such things. It doesn’t matter. The US still insists on imposing them,
Oh, but the spotted owl ..!!
Imagine that. The Government of Canada built the bridge entirely with its own money, and then had the audacity to use Canadian steel.
This sends a clear message: don’t do a deal with the US government, because they might not live up to it.
Trump is busy burning all of the bridges that he can as he figures that money talks. In business it does, however for everything else you need trust and goodwill. I feel kind of sorry for his next generation of successors.
Trump figures he doesn’t need trust and goodwill when he’s got the most powerful economy and military in the world. But I think he’s wrong. Nations don’t like coercion, and find countless ways to deflect it, often in ways that are hard to detect.
I think Canada-US relations will repair once the Great Orange One is gone. But the call to build more in-Canada pipelines and ports to the rest of the world will have greater impact.
If by repair … you mean another Obama kneeler … or open borders Biden … you’re probably right. But fair warning … 4-years later the American electorate will snap back so hard you’ll be begging for the Trump years.
I’ll take a Bush or Reagan over Trump anyday.
You know. True conservatives.
Well, but the problem is not that you’d prefer Reagan or Bush, it’s that you’d prefer Kamala Harris, as you preferred the Biden Autopen Consortium. When you declare, “anyone but Trump”, the Devil leans over and leers at you like in those old Cadbury commercials, and says, “Anyone?”
No.
The message is:
1. Don’t shit where you eat.
2. Don’t try to screw Donald Trump like he’s the little boys Canadian government employees go to Cuba to bugger bareback every winter.
It’s called leverage, Rat.
You really are stupid.
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Just want to make sure I got this straight. Canada wants a bridge, buys the land for the bridge, negotiates for the bridge, pays for the bridge, pays Americans to help build the bridge, and Trump thinks he should own half the bridge because…
Can’t wait until he claims Alberta owes him billions and part ownership of Keystone.
Canada is going to get its ass kicked big time in a few months. All the whining in the world won’t change it.
And no one will trust the Americans again for at least 40 years.
Too funny. Instead, countries will trust China. Now that’s stupid. Typical Liberal “logic”.
Something tells me 65 years of buying American aircraft has home to an end.
Much of western Canada doesn’t trust the gov’t of Canada, it’s been this way for much longer than 40 years.
So people who have devoted the last century to mindless hatred of America will now devote the next forty years to mindless hatred of America? Wow, serious downside.
Atlantic Canadians are like New England Americans; St Laurence Canadians are like Acela Americans; flyover Canadians are like Red state Americans; and Pacific coast Canadians are just as ding-bat as West Coast Americans. There is no single Canadian identity any more than all Americans are alike. Our 1/10 the size population requires that we export in order to maintain a high standard of living and the very fact that Canadians don’t have a higher standard of living than Americans proves Trump’s (bless him, but still ..) trade figures are selective.
Trump can’t kick Canada’s ass without kicking America’s ass at the same time. Erecting broad tariffs on Canadian goods are a good way to fuel inflation, which would make for an unpleasant midterm. The Republicans are likely going to lose the House, and they might lose the Senate as well. Those two legislatures would then spend the next two years reining in Trump.
In short, making a constructive deal with Canada is in Trump’s interests. Whether he realizes or not is anyone’s guess.
Yeah yeah … lumber prices at 5 year lows here in Home Depot Amurikka. Tariff doom and gloom.
You don’t suppose that would have something to do with a 20% decline in housing starts? Trump is going to get slaughtered in the mid-terms. His constant attention to foreign entanglement is the exact opposite of why people voted for him. Besides, he’s going Biden loopy.
And aluminum is sky high in the US, far more than in Canada, putting US industries at a substantial disadvantage:
https://www.reuters.com/business/tariffs-low-stocks-propel-aluminium-costs-records-us-consumers-2026-01-08/
Inflation. Hilarious.
Funny. Canada depends infinitely more on trade with the U.S. than the other way around. I wouldn’t bet on Republicans losing the House or the Senate. But one thing is sure……Canada’s economy is going to get a serious ass kicking.
Canada would get hit worse than the US, but that’s not the point. Trump is looking down the barrel of a Democratic congress.
No matter what you ElBoWZoS think, the US economy is 13x bigger than Canaderp.
Get used to it, and accept, Trump is a much bigger adversary, and unbeatable.
That’s YOUR problem. Check your ego, Rat.
Carney doesn’t have to beat Trump. Carney just has to stand firm, and let the US beat Trump. If the courts don’t clip his wings, congress might.
That’s your problem, ByTheSea. You think it’s Canada versus the US. No, it’s Trump versus reality.
KM, you have it backwards. Making a constructive deal with Trump is in Canada’s interests.
Canada has the most lose without a constructive deal with the US because neither commie China nor increasingly dystopian Europe will help Canada’s economy much.
Europe can’t even help its own economy much, if at all, and there are increasing reports that China’s is shaky.
It’s not an either / or thing. Both can be true at once.
But a constructive deal here means low or no tariffs for both countries.
I think it’s apparent that Trump wants a deal, considering he has brokered ones with other countries, but does Carney and his backers want one. I haven’t seen or read much indication of that.
Carney doesn’t want a deal, that much should be obvious by now. He wants a spring election and he needs to use the evil orange-man-bad to whip up overly hysterical Central and Eastern Canadians to giving him a majority.
Personally I think Carney and Trump are in it together.
Canada as we know it only exists because the United States didn’t see fit to absorb it by force. The United States didn’t do that because Canadian governments, however much they resented the Americans, knew better than to openly make common cause with sworn enemies of the United States.
The Libranos have two choices. Stop trying to screw the Americans sideways like they’re the little boys French Canadian tapettes go to Cuba to bugger bareback every winter, or step aside in favour of someone who’ll negotiate with Trump in good faith.
Unlike Canada, Cuba is always warm, so come what may, Cubans won’t actually freeze to death in the dark.
1. When did the US become emperialist assholes? So far as I can tell, January 20, 2025.
2. Canada isn’t making “common cause with the sworn enemies of the United States.” That’s a ridiculous description.
3. The United States is due to negotiate trade deals with China in early April. Trump is setting himself up to look awfully hypocritical.
4. Trump has turned into an erratic super brat, and you call Canadians school boys?
5. Canada is a net exporter of electricity and petroleum to the US, and it’s not even close.
Slater – “Canada as we know it only exists because the United States didn’t see fit to absorb it by force.”
The US tried a few time, during the Revolution, the War of 1812, and the Fenian Raids. All three times the Americans couldn’t get home quickly enough because they didn’t like being killed by people they thought they were liberating. Try it again and the same thing would happen. One thing we, and the rest of the world, can safely rely on is the US will cut and run.
Really? Good I’m content letting the tolerant nice people pile up to save what exactly?
Still having American invasion fantasies I see. Oh dear sweet summer child, I wish you blissful dreaming.
And that last swipe did seem rather petulant — do try to stay happy darling.
But I thank you nonetheless with yet another Canadian comment that I can share with my fellow Americans; I just adore watching their view of you sour. It suits the occasion!
Trump had four years to cancel or modfiy the agreement in his first term. Only when the bridge is on the verge of opening does he suddenly demand changes. This guy would have made a great mob boss.
Your opinion on how he operates is a concern for only you.
Remember when coinservatives believed in free trade and honeset dealings? Good times.
This is of concern to any middle power wishing to make a deal with the United States. Trump may find that going back on deals does not put he US in a great negotiating position.
Free trade is an ideology much like marxism — it doesn’t exist in the real world and only suckers believe in it.
We are trying to move away from being suckers; you are just unhappy that your dishonest dealings are not working as well as they used to — cry harder.
Grok, what is STRATEGY and LEVERAGE?
You really are naive and stupid.
When you only look one move down the chess board, my ideas probably do look naive and stupid. But Trump’s threat…
o Harms Michigan if carried out.
o Makes it difficult for Trump to strike future deals, as he’s showing he cannot be trusted to keep current federal agreements.
o Makes it more difficult for the seven GOP congressmen in Michigan to get re-relected this fall.
And there’s no guarantee that Carney is going to be intimidated by this move. Canada has waited decades for a second bridge. It can wait a few more years.
The Michigan GOP has proven very unfaithful to the President; he doesn’t give a damn about them and shouldn’t.
Trump has all sorts of weird quirks and foibles. He writes funny, sometimes he thinks funny, and he’s fairly unpredictable.
If I could vote for him a fourth time for prez, I would, in a heartbeat.
Trump may be seeing intel that is not being shared with the Canadian people; Canadian conservatives have long suspected there are closer ties with China than is stated in public, at least when we have Liberal governments, perhaps even when we don’t. As to what control over Canada these ties involve, what appeared suspicious to me was that they were able to fly in after COVID was already declared to be a pandemic, and there are not entirely clear research and military collaborations. So I give Trump the benefit of the doubt, not having access to that intel myself. If there are no such strings attached, then a lot of what he says sounds like overly exaggerated b.s., and this is how it is likely to play with most Canadians until or unless the truth comes out about Beijing-Ottawa secret agreements. So that’s what we need to be trying to unearth as true patriots here. I don’t trust Canadian Liberals, never have, never will. There are many reasons for them to make secret deals with China, ideological, self-interest, spite. And if they have, they should be sidelined permanently, disgraced, never elected again. Canadians are so far from understanding this, it makes me sick. But as long as some understand, there is some chance of changing the situation.
If Trump was truly worried about Canada getting too close to China, he would:
1. Not object to the proposed trade deal, which is innocuous.
2. Object to the other proposed deals Carney has struck with China involving tourism, law enforcement, and cultural exchange.
3. Bring Canada’s economy more — not less — closer to the US’s. Tariffs drive Canada to seek out deals with other countries.
So I think other things are in play. We can’t reject the idea that he’s still trying to force Canada to join the US.
“We can’t reject the idea that he’s still trying to force Canada to join the US.”
One can only hope.
“We can’t reject the idea that he’s still trying to force Canada to join the US.”
One can only hope.
More whining.
He doesn’t and will never take advice from pompous, duplicitous know-it-alls.
So your dreams of working with Trump are crushed.
Have you ever thought the rot is so deep in the upper echelons of this country, there’s no coming back without some real misery.
You guys sound like 10 years olds that haven’t fought back yet.
So sad hearing people fking whine…. Vote fking liberal , the conservatism you hold onto ( in this country) is so shallow it’s non existant.
Canada is in danger of going down as one of the biggest disappointments in the free world.
Think about it.
This isn’t about the Liberals. This is about Trump.
Carney is just another globalist insulated from consequence he’s a prog.
It sounds as though people want Biden back just to spare us the misery .
We asked for it sorry.
We did.
And nothing can change until Canadians are honest with themselves.
This is a Liberal country the only problem is Liberalism just isn’t what it used to be.
It’s all about Modern Liberals – moral relativism , tolerance , inclusion, diversity, you name the feel good hollow empty infantile values and that’s what this country has become.
This isn’t about your obsessions. This is about MY obsessions!
This particular issue isn’t about Carney.
Everytime Trump does something asinine, which is pretty damn often, his defenders try to divert the discussion. Nope, this is about Trump.
Your taking a position like a smidgen of integrity exists , one can say well it’s politics and that’s such a pathetic argument .
In this country today at least.
It’s not about defending Trump Killer it’s about our country finding it’s spine again, or at the very least what remains of its character.
I could give two shits about Trump I watched McGuinty and Wynne hollow this province out , and look to California as a shining sibling Ford well he’s just a wallowing swine.
Trump’s a bull in a China shop.
The Dems just are more sneaky and do twice as much damage over time.
I’m not defending him his time just arrived.
And ours has too.
Trouble is it’s a reckoning
And it’s historic in the grandest of proportions and excuses aren’t going to change it.
But it’s about whether Trump is meeting standards. We have to look at the behaviour of others to determine what the standards are.
“In particular, we look forward to the expeditious completion of the Gordie Howe international bridge, which will serve as a vital economic link between our two countries.”
~ Joint statement from Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau, February 13, 2017
In case you haven’t noticed, THAT was THEN, THIS is NOW.
A duplicitous twit is now PM, that Trump is toying with.
Get used to it.
You would make a lousy negotiator.
STRATEGY and LEVERAGE,
You have no concept.
Trump has all the leverage. Marx Carnage has none.
Try to Lear.
Why would anyone now want to negotiate with Trump when he does not feel obliged to keep to current agreements? People and nations gravitate to dealing with those they trust.
I can’t wait for Carney to mandate that 10% of all protein consumed in Canada is to be Chinese-sourced insects.
I see KM is furious that his vacation to Cuba was canceled and he won’t be able to spend two weeks buggering a different Cuban boy bareback every night like he does every March Break.
Or maybe he’s just now realizing that the United States are now governed by a healthy heterosexual man who is sick of seeing his country being screwed sideways.
Carney can stop trying to screw the Americans or step aside in favour of someone willing to do that. He doesn’t have a third option. Unlike Canada, it’s always warm in Cuba, so Cubans won’t actually freeze to death in the dark.
Furious? I’m laughing. Trump just made a ridiculous move that will cause Americans — and congress and the courts — to question his rationality even more. They’ll also be seriously annoyed that the president does not feel obliged to keep to federal agreements.
I suspect that Trump will limp this one back like he has so many other moves, while his admirers fight ever harder to defend him.
If I were one of the seven Republican congressmen from Michigan, I would be so pissed at Trump. He just made the odds of their re-election significantly smaller.
Why should we allow a country that has increasingly outed itself as a national security risk to operate a bridge into our country, even to the point of controlling the side of said bridge that is located in our country? Couple that with the longest shared border in the world, which is already headache enough; couple that with WHERE the bridge is located (yes, check a map, look at transportation hubs; now consider what’s been said about your little cartel problem up in the Not so Great White North — the one you Canadians refuse to acknowledge let alone address and think: “asymmetric warfare”).
Get lost! It’s the only answer you deserve.
Also not lost is the namesake of that bridge.
Not one international treaty entered into by Trump will ever have any meaning. None will ever be ratified by the Senate. Pretty soon the Supreme Court is going to declare Trump’s tariffs illegal by a vote of 9/0. Then international relations can return to normal with existing treaties having full effect.
Perhaps. We’ll see.
One big groundhog day. After another.
As long as the trough keeps getting filled.
Yup , that’s noble.
But that’s the average Canadian.
They sound tough but their fighting for the slop bucket.
Crab Bucket.
The Kleptocracy of Can Ahh duh is one big crab bucket
Generally I am amused by Trump colouring outside the lines (read the Art of the Deal children) however I am confused by his strategy here.
Canadian taxpayers have paid for the bridge including the US Border services complex, have used US labour and steel on the US side and has gifted 50% ownership to the State of Michigan and now Trump is demanding half???
Best possible explanation is that Carney is setting up a late spring election and has set on a strategy of deliberately antagonizing Trump (deals with China, review of F35 deal – hint it is going ahead, a consulate in Greenland FFS?) in order to campaign on saving Canada from Orange Man Bad (again). By reacting Trump increases the risk of getting a Carney majority and that is the real tragedy
Perhaps Carney is useful to us. An enemy can be useful after all.
I liken it to Canada can’t afford the bridge. If Canada was smart, it would renegotiate some protectionist tarrifs and sell half of the bridge.
America isn’t in the business of foreign infrastructure ownership anymore and it doesn’t want half the bridge in the US owned by vassal China.
Wow…I see a thread with 60+ comments and I think that there’s a lively discussion going on, only to find that almost half of those comments are from some jackhole trying to dominate the conversation who doesn’t have the good sense to know when to shut up.
Watch the value of the U.S. dollar.
Isn’t that bridge named after some guy who liked to have his elbows up?