Y2Kyoto: Sanity On The Sub-Continent

India reopens 100 coal mines;

The action is just one of the many measures that the country has taken to ensure a seamless supply of coal to power plants that generate more than 70 percent of the electricity consumed by the subcontinent’s industries and 1.3 billion people. Leaders in developing parts of the world are ready to wear a badge of dishonor that climate alarmists award those who reject their absurd policy proposals.

“Earlier we were hailed as bad boys because we were promoting fossil fuel and now we are in the news that we are not supplying enough of it,” said India’s Coal Secretary, pointing to the negative coverage of a media that change colors as frequently as chameleons and the global hypocrisy over fossil fuels.

The post-pandemic economic recovery has sent power demand to unprecedented levels, resulting in rapid depletion of coal stockpiles at power plants and threatening serious consequences both to individual lives and major industrial processes.

30 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Sanity On The Sub-Continent”

  1. That’s good news and a smart move.

    India has a massive solar panel manufacturing industry and they produce quality panels for dirt cheap. So cheap that over 60 percent of all additional power supply new installations are via solar. For them, it makes sense.

    Overall they are being very smart.

      1. They make sense for anyone who wants to reduce their dependence on state monopolies, as well, at least in places like California and Australia, where there is lots of sunlight and rolling blackouts.

      2. Grid scale solar plus 4 hours of battery storage much much cheaper than natgas. And that’s without subsidies. Solar was dumb before but it’s smart now.

          1. Home units are hopeless. Installation costs are stupid and batteries too expensive for small scale. Grid scale is dirt cheap. Unfortunately that means big money controls it for now. I want cheap home solar so I’m not hostage to government, big oil or nut job dick taters.

          2. CGH and SCC we disagree. Which is fine. My bf is an electrical engineer working on these projects and he is ex of a couple of large utility companies so I’m going by what he is saying and what the big utilities themselves are
            saying.

            But do your own research and form your own opinions. I know I was very sceptical until recently.

          3. If grid scale solar is so dirt cheap then why have all the large solar grids gone bankrupt?

            I used to be an engineer and I’ve worked with tons of them. “technically feasible” is not the same thing as “economically feasible”.

        1. No solar isn’t cheaper, and it is not reliable. Saying solar is cheaper is false, without carbon taxes and subsidies, no developed country would use it.

          Why does the west want to throw its money away on this, when education, poverty, infrastructure are all underfunded? Because part of those subsidies become graft that keeps the socialists in power.

          And your own statement acknowledges it is not a plausible sense of power. Only 3rd world countries tolerate the blackouts inevitable with solar.

          Nuclear is the only plausible zero carbon source of electricity, but does not attract political support because it also emits zero graft.

          1. SCC you are mistaken. You should research what is now happening in Alberta with grid scale solar as well as all over the US.

            Solar plus battery is cheaper and that’s without subsidies.

            You still need natgas backup in Alberta in winter and on cloudy days but even with that it’s still much cheaper. I mean of course you do. It’s simple physics right?

            Solar panel costs have absolutely plummeted as has low power density battery storage.

            Start with the Travers Project in Alberta. It’s a 400 MW project. One of dozens now in design, permitting or construction.

          2. SCC, quite so. Every time wind/solar has been introduced on a large scale, customer rates have gone through the roof. Just ask Ontarians who voted non party status for the Liberals last week for the second straight election.

            And in every case where it’s introduced on a large scale, reliability has declined. Just ask Texas.

          3. Hannah, your problem is that low solar panel costs have only been the consequence of slave labour in Xinjiang and Africa. And your claims about reliability are bullshit. Go ahead, cut your utility connection; I dare you.

          4. CGH and SCC we disagree. Which is fine. Do your own research and form your own opinions. I know like you I was sceptical until recently.

            My bf is an electrical engineer working on some of these projects. He is ex of major power utility companies. He says these companies themselves are well aware of the economics and are getting on board big time. It’s actually a bit of a gold rush mentality right now because the opportunities are very attractive.

          5. “Do your own research” is code for “I’m full of **** and have no proof of my airy assertions.”

        2. 4 hours battery storage? What are you going to do the other 12 in winter? Or cloudy days any time of the year?

          And don’t forget the capital costs for necessary backup generators for intermittent, unreliable panels … are they included in this ridiculous “cheap solar” accounting?

          Completely irrational. No wonder you find Allan S’ drivel so compelling.

  2. Tell me again, Stephan Gullible, why we are being penalized for our fossil fuel usage when China and India are ignoring anthroprogenic climate change and we, in Bananada, are responsible for less than 2% of the problem? And why is this FACT never, ever mentioned by the opposition (Conservatives, maybe) in the House of Commons?

    1. The purpose of all these things is to make us poorer, not to save the planet. The great unwashed have no right to fly on vacation, eat good quality meat or drive to pick up their groceries.

    2. Because the “conservatives” are buying up “green” stocks … looking to PROFIT off the climate hysteria. Remember! The largest stock market increases are driven by sentiments … not fundamentals.

  3. It takes a special kind of ahole to intentionally hobble his own energy sector, and special kinds of ahole to vote them in.

  4. This is horrible news. My beloved house cat, Mister Whiskers, jumped out of my lap and ran to his food dish in terror. All that awful, man made, synthetic coal, filling the atmosphere with toxic Carbon Dioxide. Plants will die. Global Warming will be upon us faster than it was going to be! We are all going to die, sooner!

  5. India consumes about 11% of the world’s coal. China, on the other hand, consumes over 54% of the world’s coal. Between them…that is over 65% of the world’s coal consumption annually.

    Why mention this? Because, at the last Climate Summit, the COP26 Pledge to phase out coal from daily use was signed by a number of countries. India and China were not among them. Hilarious!!!

    1. Any time someone bangs on about CO2 I tell them flat out they’re not serious and they don’t believe what they’re saying. Because if they actually believed anthropogenic CO2 was an existential threat they’d be advocating for total war with China and India.

  6. Notice how the western socialist leaders all have the same talking points. Blackie burned jet fuel down to L.A. to discuss with Dementia Joe about global warming, gender equity, and whiny Indian issues. Meanwhile the socialist leader of New Zealand is currently meeting with the socialist leader of Australia to discuss the same things.

  7. “Hydroelectricity accounted for 60% of all electric generation in Canada in 2018,[1] making Canada the world’s third-largest producer of hydroelectricity after China and Brazil.[3] Since 1960, large hydroelectric projects, especially in Quebec, British Columbia, Manitoba, and Newfoundland and Labrador, have significantly increased the country’s generation capacity.
    The second-largest single source of power (15% of the total) is nuclear power, with several plants in Ontario generating more than half of that province’s electricity, and one generator in New Brunswick. This makes Canada the world’s sixth-largest producer of electricity generated by nuclear power, producing 95 TWh in 2017.[4]
    Fossil fuels generate 18% of Canadian electricity, about half as coal (7% of the total) and the remainder a mix of natural gas and oil.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Canada

    Cripple our clean industry with carbon taxes and ship our raw materials to coal powered factories India and China in fossil fuel powered ships.
    Economics do not operate in a vacuum.

    The middle east used to import coal to power their own economies which freed up more oil and gas for sale to the stupid countries.

  8. Thought I had quite a stack of manure at the barn, but Justin’s speech in L.A. is a bigger pile. He ranted against Republicans in the U.S. and Conservatives in Canada for hindering the fight against global warming. And of course praised carbon taxes.

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