45 Replies to “Sober Discussion about the Never-ending Covid “pandemic””

  1. Teachers get paid full salary to stay home and not teach.
    We all know a sure fire way to get them back in the classroom, but it might be a good time to start questioning if these are the people you want influencing and “teaching” your children.

  2. The great redemption arc of Megyn Kelly. Maybe when fox fires the leftist regards in charge and reforms she’ll be back.

    1. She was paid to be pretty, and there’s younger and hotter and hungrier women out there.

  3. I listened to this podcast last night and was impressed enough that I shared it with many of my covid-panicked friends. They are so convinced of the brilliance and infallibility of Saint Bonnie however, that I doubt it will make any impression upon them.

    Many of Kelly’s podcast guests are very good.

    1. It was only ok. The push for untested vaccine was irresponsible but you could tell the Dr. was being cautious with his words. EUA approval is all that has been given. It stands for Emergency Use Authorization. This means you are a guineapig or test subject and there are no promises that it will not do damage in the future. If it is given to elderly the long term effects will not show up before they die. I am sure the Dr. has been warned to stay within bounds when voicing his opinions.

    2. Regarding Bonnie “The Commie” Henry. My friends and acquaintances are similarly smitten and hang on her very words as gospel. When asked, I, of course, tell them my opinion based on my observations of being on this planet for six decades. I tell them that Bonnie has no skin in the game and thus can giver her pronouncements to the spineless union-thug of a Premier Horgan and testicle-free Health Minister Dix with them lapping it up and spewing in our faces. They are shocked I can say such a thing. After all, she is one of us.
      I remind them that she is not at all like “us”. First of all, her salary will never take a hit, ours has. Secondly, she has no children and thus no motivation for legacy and no real understanding of what it really means to a parent when their child’s schooling is effed around with and their economic future has been tanked. She does not feel our anguish because, in reality, screw grandma, We live for our kids. THEY are our future. She lives for her latest fan-adoration hand-made shoes. Bonnie Henry has no future. She is a planned obsolescence wind-up doll who seems to be taking her orders from the contemptible and corrupt WHO and her medical and scientific acumen consists of parroting models that failed every.single.time.
      Regarding those that I am saying this to. I am met with NPC faces. The Lugenpresse has done their job so well.
      What I am saying is opinion, of course, but it not opinion formed lightly.
      P.S. If Bonnie Henry deserves any custom shoes, it would be a pair of huaraches with used tire soles.

      1. Indeed. Same thing with that emotionally crippled Henry, I get that quizzical stare too. “But she’s so calm and nice”.
        So that determines intelligence? I give one , small, crumb of credit, the Commie horde didn’t lock us down, like the east did, but they came close. Nonetheless, they have failed miserably.
        -The survival rate is 99.982% under age 60.
        -Health authorities have ignored HCQ and Ivermectin, helpful therapies. India is using them, and it shows.
        -Health authorities have ignored advising the public to take Vitamin D, Zinc, and other immune boosting supplements. They can’t hurt to take, and there’s a lot of evidence directly related to VitD and woohoo flu.
        -LTCs were not protected, well after the fact. That’s criminal.
        -Those with compromised health and those over 60. Should isolate and take extreme protective measures, but ONLY them. And, government assistance should have been focussed on them, and them only, to keep them isolated and protected. The woohoo flu should have been allowed to run through the population, recommend taking Vit D and zinc, and ride it out. Herd immunity would be achieved much faster,and no need for guinea pig vaccines.
        History will look back on this with disdain, at the rank incompetence of governments and so-called health experts.

        1. Lance, Dan, Bonnie Henry is, indeed, a mere puppet.
          I am amazed at how many people hang on her every arbitrary pronouncement.
          She said something the other day that strains credulity. It was about “human interfaces” being benign at Costco but not in the workplace or in small social gatherings.
          She seems fixated on denying peoples’ desire to get together with a few friends, or to unite in worship and fellowship. It makes me suspect that she resents such things because she doesn’t have friends to gather with.
          Passive aggressive loser with nice shoes and leather jackets.

          1. Stevie, I’m inclined to think they don’t want us socializing, working, attending church etc, because those are the places we discuss current affairs and share thoughts and ideas. Costco and the like is indeed benign as we are just shopping, and protest rallies, (though not the plandemic lockdown protests) but the BLM and Antifa type crap are people with specific agendas and focus. Again, they are not discussing current affairs. Heaven knows, we might come up with ways to subvert their ideas if we socialize, and they can’t have that. If we gather, we might resist more, as a group of like minded individuals are far more of a threat than individuals separated, locked down at home, with fear and scare tactics to try and force us to conform. People like Horgan, Henry, and the others are either complicit in a grander scheme, or they are mindless automatons conforming to the group think ordained from above. Either way, the ultimate intent is to screw with us, to gain control. The real question is WHY! I have a bunch of thoughts on that as well, but that is for other posts, and I think a lot of SDA posters have specific ideas on why, as well.

        2. “But she’s so calm and nice”.
          Really? You didn’t see her on TV back in early 2020? Could barely stand her knees shook so bad and she actually blubbered about COOOVVVVIIID. I’d bet money she’s on some drug regimen right now, to stiffen her spine.

          2. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand that phony “so nice” front she puts on. She’s an emotional cripple, almost always on the verge of tears, especially for her drug addicted opioid crowd. As a typical health bureaucrat, she doesn’t accept LIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY THE SWORD.
            She thinks everybody is fixable, especially by HER actions. Typical Leftist. She hates free will, those druggies have a choice, to get sober and live a productive life, or, stay drugged out, with a rapidly diminishing lifespan. Their choice. Cant fix stupid.

  5. I read that Germany’s Standing Vaccine Commission has determined that Astra Zenica’s vaccine is only 8% effective in people over 65. Why the hell would anyone even take it? My immune system gives me 99.8% effectiveness.

    1. Some politics going on there between the EU and UK. It’s so ineffective that they want to seize doses from the UK.

    2. The “vaccine” is outright theft of public resources plus god only knows what’s in it, especially if Gates was involved.
      He was involved in Africa for a malaria vaccine, turned out it also sterilized half a million young girls.
      In India he was involved with a polio vaccine that permanently paralyzed another half a million kids. (Being challenged by Gates of course)
      No thanks, I don’t need it.
      Merck has walked away from developing a vaccine saying getting the flu and recovering is more effective. Makes sense when 99.9+% survive. That’s where HCQ and other drugs come in.
      What a waste of public money.
      And the cost of the lock downs. I needs to end.
      Heads need to roll, lots of them.

      1. Yeah Bob, I think sterilization has a lot to do with it, and what else might be in it, or planned to be in some future vaccines. Um, no thanks, I’ll pass, even when I’m in the supposed, age red zone.

  6. When science becomes politicized – which it has – the truth becomes something that government ministries determine.
    Fake pandemic, fake systemic racism, fake climate change.
    Put that out there these days and there follows an avalanche of attacks.
    The Ministry of Love has only just started flexing its muscle.

  9. The teachers’ unions do not want their members going back to work in person because the membership have come to quite enjoy drinking at breakfast, and it will look odd if they start showing up for class so drunk or hungover even the grade-schoolers notice.

    It is much easier to disguise a serious drinking or drug problem if your job does not require you to show up sober.

    2. the membership have come to quite enjoy drinking at breakfast, and it will look odd if they start showing up for class so drunk or hungover

      While I taught at Armpit College, there were numerous times when that situation seemed awfully tempting to me…..

  10. An article in the Sat Globe focussed on vaccines. There is an assumption that these are being tested. Presumably large numbers of people (40,000 or so — sometimes less) are given the vaccine. Subsequently a claim is made regarding “effectiveness” (98%, 95% — sometimes less. ) The claims specifically relate to acute symptoms, hospitalization and deaths from Covid. I guess you would need to look at details about the test to confirm, but if it was given to people across the age spectrum, even without the vaccine a large percentage of people will not become seriously ill. Perhaps they had two groups and one had more people seriously sick, so the assumption is that this was because if the vaccine. Or maybe they just compared vaccinated to known incidence. I am simply confused about how they come up with these numbers. And should not a comparison be made of vaccines vs. treatments (HCQ, etc.). We are given numbers intended to increase confidence in the effectiveness of these things, but we are not given information about how those numbers are derived, and given the already low incidence of acute illness and death across the population, I am not confident that they are measuring anything meaningful. Perhaps someone with a scientific background can explain how effectiveness is being measured in these vaccines and weather it is a valid measure.

    1. I watched the Lee Merrit video that Watcher linked yesterday. She raises some questions about the mRNA “vaccines” and how info is being suppressed and at the end of the day you aren’t able to make an informed decision. She gets into why the cats and ferrets used in previous mRNA corona tests ALL DIED.

      They have lied and covered up going back to the Military games held in Wuhan Oct 2019. At this point I believe they are not beyond lying about the effectiveness of the drugs or even people dying like the cats and ferrets did when they were infected by the real bug.

    2. I’m not claiming to be scientific. Looking at the numbers Moderna published, 1.1 % of the non-vaccinated study group came down with mild symptoms and another 0.2% (2 per thousand) came down with “severe” symptoms. We aren’t talking many severe cases to start with. And that’s over a period of ~10 months.

      The vaccine won’t stop people from catching and spreading the virus. But it’s assumed it would prevent the “severe” symptoms. However another 0.1% have severe reactions and/or die receiving the vaccine.

      The WHO’s take is that most of these are old and they would have died soon anyway so there is still a net benefit to people taking the vaccine.

      A 1.3% case / population number puts that 2.5% case mortality number in perspective, i.e., 3 deaths / 10,000 population /10 month period. The vaccine may save the 3 but kill another 1.5.

      Caveat emptor. I’m not scientific.

      1. Thanks for that. I really would like to see someone tackle their claims. Your analysis at least flags that the issue needs a closer look. In addition, I believe that the vaccine makers do their own “tests” and provide their own data. Thus “success rate” for the vaccines is not being independently monitored. Merck pulling out of vaccines is an important red flag. And — regarding: “The WHO’s take is that most of these are old and they would have died soon anyway” — is that not also the case for Covid — it is old people. Young people have a minimal incidence of serious illness from Covid. I think Norway recommended stopping giving the vaccine to the very frail. Well — those are the only ones who would need a vaccine anyway, assuming it even works. Something is very off about the vaccine narrative. Why is no one in the media investigation — if only to provide concrete information so people are reassured. They just provide these nebulous “claims.” from the vaccine makers.

      2. I’m not scientific on COVID, but I just take Vit C plus Zinc and Vit D daily. Dose is 2000 units each. I can’t remember when I hab a code. Stand outside for 20 minutes when the sun shines. Just did it. Temp is +7 in SW Calgary.

    3. Well Linda, I think it’s all about show and tell. They want to show us the vaccine is needed, but if they tell us the truth, we won’t want it. They are deliberately confusing the numbers and hiding the facts, plus changing the goal posts on a regular basis. Again, as I said in a post above, the real question is why! In the beginning, it was, “No, masks aren’t needed” then as we progress, they keep changing the narrative. Currently we are at “double masking”. A month or two from now, it might be triple masks or full respirators, who knows?

      1. So, could a media person or researcher check to see what is involved at Health Canada to get the vaccines approved? I’ll bet they do nothing but read the reports coming from the drug companies. Now in the US, the drug companies cannot be sued for adverse outcomes from vaccines. Now is that also true in Canada? And, since this is not really a vaccine in the traditional sense, how is it the drug companies can still get that protection for a non-vaccine, not properly tested. Someone needs to get sued — or at least be at risk of being sued if the vaccine is putting people at risk.

  11. slovakia and south africa have approved ivermectin to treat covid… here in n america few have heard about this drug….. google dr pierre kory

    1. Thanks for that link, she ties things together pretty nicely and even gives some thought to practical actions individuals can take. Quitting the big banks in favour of credit unions for one, establishing a local social network for food is another.

  13. Wow Robert! How does a (presumably) conservative ‘Lockdown’ blog find an Oakland School Teacher willing to speak in direct defiance of her UNIONISTA bosses? I assume she is making plans to leave the District (if not teaching altogether).

    I, however, have a prediction that the CA Teachers UNION and local UNIONS like the OUSD Marxist UNION are about to change their tune, and reluctantly send children and teachers back to the classroom. Why? Well, Alex hinted at the reason why … class disparity. Socioeconomic class disparity. The wealthy suburban school districts in CA are reopening …

    https://www.ktvu.com/news/los-gatos-elementary-schools-resume-in-classroom-learning

    https://www.redfin.com/city/11234/CA/Los-Gatos/housing-market

    People who live in $2M homes … won’t tolerate their children NOT being effectively educated.

    The UNIONS will soon be seen as selfishly and deliberately harming POOR COC (children of color). While wealthy suburban school districts resume classroom education … because they CARE about their children’s future … the UNIONISTA stranglehold over ‘urban’ school districts will be seen for what it is … HARMING children. Holding POOR COC back. Making POOR COC FAIL. Why? Because the UNIONISTAS love getting paid for barely working from home. The children are suffering … but the UNION only cares about their lazy-ass selves. “Safety” my ass.

    As more and more upper middle class school districts return to the classroom … the UNIONISTAS will get exposed. The poor COC will fall further behind and the socioeconomic divide will deepen. The Marxist Teachers UNIONS will either go back to the classroom … or be revealed for what they truly are … counterproductive to children’s educations. The MARXIST UNIONS will have no choice. Get their fat, lazy, scaredy-cat, asses back into the classroom or watch School Choice wipe them out.

  14. This Plandemic is priceless.
    Stop and review the public pronouncement since March 2020.
    Review what we have learnt independent of government sources since then.
    Observe how “good enough for government” the actions of our helpers has been.

    Notice anything?
    My own take on it is this.
    Health Canada is clueless useless and dangerous.
    Politicians ,of all breeds,are gutless cowards,hiding behind clueless bureaucrats.
    The Free Healthcare System so loved by the CBC types is a long dead festering corpse.
    The rights,responsibilities and freedom to exercise either of the Canadian Citizen are nonexistent.
    If such rights and freedoms actually exist in law or charter,they are so far from the minds of our Parasites that they may as well not exist.
    No one in the Political World represents the adult citizen.
    All of our “leaders and servants” treat all as children and lie deliberately to us.

    Even given the wildest of “benefits of doubt”,these fools and bandits have failed us on every front.
    By this I mean ,pretend that this was a real bioweapon or pandemic,would anything they have done to date have worked?
    Assume that a real state of “Medical Emergency” existed or had existed in March 2020,What did you actually see?
    As in actions not blither from the bureaus.

    Has any “public health announcement” increased your knowledge or made you better informed as to how to respond to “The Dread Covid”?
    Has a single elected politician ,public health official or Media Jabbering Fool addressed us as adults?
    Have you heard the voice of sweet reason cutting through the confusion,hysteria and fear?
    How about some accurate scientifically based information?
    Accurate numbers?
    Now the real face of the State has emerged from this staged event.
    Power over the people.
    Secret detention.
    Police who refuse to identify themselves.
    Emergency Lockdowns,that “do not apply to any level of government”.
    An arrogance from our Masters,who assure us”We are all in this together” as they fine and disappear us then take their “Scheduled and entitled vacations to sunny climes.

    Notice what is missing?
    Not one public representative has arisen to defend the taxpayer.
    Well that is not quite true,however our Presstitutes have done a great job of ignoring and or dismissing such voices.
    The citizen apparently has no voice in this “Emergency”.
    Yet none of those stomping us act as if there is any emergency or even urgency..
    Except to deprive us of freedom to work,travel or engage friends and family as we chose.

    The Kleptocracy or Parasite central,has not lost a days pay.
    Pay raises for the minions even.
    They have used this “opportunity” to borrow billion of dollars more against our grandchildren yet to be born.
    Spending most carefully to reward their fellow travellers with swathes of “free” monies..

    So these last 11 month have been a true education for the lovies who worship political “service” and “Good government”.
    I say a true education as they are usually very expensive and burned into your memory cells.
    Which 2020 ought to be.

    Time to wake up and change some basic attitudes.
    Politics is not a foul world.
    All interactions of free people are political.
    The theatre of the absurd we have tolerated for the last 4 decades is an aberration.
    We have allowed ourselves to be pushed out of the decision making by yammering fools and thieves,unwilling to subject ourselves to the rituals and theatre that local councils and useless busybodies thrive on.

    Well now we are living the consequences,governed by fools and bandits,ruled and regulated by grey minions and told”conform or die”.
    Over a Novel Corona Virus closely resembling a not very virulent flu..99.8% Survival Rate,should you contract it.
    Now that is one hell of a “Medical Emergency”..Eh?
    Interesting ain’t it?

    As I started,the Dread Covid is a priceless lesson for all tax paying citizens.
    The face diapers are on.
    But all the masks are off.
    Do you like the faces you are seeing?

    Fire them all.
    If they will not accept dismissal,then remember “Our Heritage” and other such Canadian nonsense..Madame Guillotine served our French ancestry very well.

    For if you expect to be treated with dignity by these same fools who currently rule,you are delusional.
    They deny you even the right to have an informed choice.
    Or an adult say.
    Lovely .

    The only logical and sane response to all of these power happy incompetents..?
    “Your two weeks are up”.

    2. Good rant. I’m worried about the outcome of the Supreme Court challenge on this. The lockdowns are indeed a violation of human rights, but the excuse will be “protecting public health.” Most worrisome is that if the measures are o.k. ed by the court, it will open tgdfo8r to complete totalitarisnism which is where this is headed. If the court does not put a stop to this, freedom in our country is gone.

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