Wuhan Flu

Wuhan Flu 41 Comments

Random links.

Health Canada has finally approved a rapid test, weeks after rest of the planet.

A second wave in China, blame the Russians.

“What about Sweden?”

An ICU doctor: after a week of service in the ICU, I’d like to get a few things off my chest.

The rise of Karen-ism.

Trump decision coming soon after conferring with governors and other officials.

“Can you imagine Mount Sinai Hospital going to the C.I.A. for help?”

Your own related links in the comments. Keep the chatter down please.

41 Replies to “Wuhan Flu”

    1. “Jobth? Who needth jobth when the cwimate ith at thtake? Don’t people weawithe that the eawth ith on fiwe?”

    1. Yes. We really have the dumbest federal government of all time.

      A quote from the article: “The federal government’s new adviser on Flight 752, former Liberal cabinet minister Ralph Goodale”

  3. Just a quick comment about the “haemoglobin hypothesis” and Dr. Sethi’s comments: I read a review in the Lancet which looked at approximately 200 ICU cases from Wuhan. Of note, the average haemoglobin concentrations of the survivors and the deceased were not significantly different and both were within normal range. This would argue against the theory that there is a new mechanism of disease at work in this regard at least, and per Dr. Sethi’s comments we’re back to basics so to speak with respect to this thing behaving pathophysiologically similarly to other ARDS-provoking organisms. The renal failure he talks about is always a really, really bad sign in any ICU/ARDS patient as it’s often the first sign of multi-organ system failure leading to death.

    1. I appreciate your comments here. I’m trying to stay firmly on the fence when it comes to anything medical, my function is only to share differing viewpoints.

      1. Thank you, Kate. I agree with the idea that if a theory is out there, it’s important to discuss it, neither fully endorsing it nor dismissing it out of hand, but going where the evidence leads us.

        1. Dr D.

          From your Experience in with this Virus and in discussions with other Medical EXPERTS (not talking politicians), is there sufficient evidence to believe that we are dealing with more than one iteration of this thing..?

          I ask this as some ICU folks in the know would state unequivocably that HCQ, Azithro & Zinc absolutely work – where other say it won’t. Some are stating this is 100% ARDS and others just as confident stating its not..with what THEY see being more akin to HYPOXIA.

          How many versions of this are there…? and if there are more than one, does that indicate anything regarding its origin – evolution. DO we have a Type A-B-C situation.? And is that even possible for a supposed Natural Virus.

          Thank you

      2. The balance is challenging indeed Kate. I have listened to many doctor rants…quite a few are endorsing the chloroqinine treatment, based on positive results.
        I am using both my PC and phone for internet, so will have to look up some links. Will gladly share here or in Reader Tips.

        1. More and more testimonials from Doctors and recovered patients regarding the use of Hydroxychloroquine are coming to light, in spite of the Trump hating media that seems hell-bent on keeping this from the public because President Trump suggested using the drug might be beneficial. I have written both my MP & MLA asking if Provincially or Federally any consideration or discussion is taking place regarding this lifesaving drug & they have not responded.
          https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/old-malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine-may-help-cure-coronavirus-study/
          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-rated-effective-therapy-doctors-coronavirus-global-survey/

          1. And there have been more and more doctors saying it doesn’t work. What is needed is proper study, which is happening now. Results will be in soon, but it is far too soon to draw any definite conclusions. There is no conspiracy to keep this away from people, just the fact that doctors don’t want to jump on a treatment that is not backed by evidence. That’s how medical science works, and you benefit materially and directly from this process.

            Let’s hope it works, but you do not have enough evidence to make a case for it yet. You obviously have strong feelings about this, but reality doesn’t care about your feelings. Stop thinking like a spoiled child.

          2. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the ANTI Trumpers will have a tremendous effect on whether certain treatments are tested and eventually approved. I notice that not one MSM Outlet talks about the 3 drug cocktail…only HCQ… and all its supposed Deadly side Effects.

            I find that rather hilarious as HCQ has been around since the end of the War..(1945). Goes to show their level of honesty and intelligence.

            Seems to me the NARRATIVE is that we are all supposed to wait in lockdown till late 2021 – early 2022. Uhuh. And keep Bill Gates and HIS “vaccine” at the Forefront.

            Something just not quite right with that….

  4. “The rise of karenism”…

    The meaning is totally lost in the deluge of eloquency. Get to the fn point, douchebag!

    1. Funny they have issues in North Korea with Covid19..??
      They’ve been in lockdown since 1945..no.?

      One wonders where Crazy Man JONG is….he’s the perfect Candidate to succumb to this no.? Big Fat … I didn’t think they made ventilators capable of handling his bulk..??

  6. This follows the above comment from DrD. I’ve also posted the vid in Reader’s tips because this is an entirely different diagnostic and treatment view.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GYTc53r2o&feature=emb_logo

    This Doctor says IT IS NOT COVID they are attempting to treat, ergo the protocols are wrong regarding ventilator treatment. What the lung symptoms look like are those of HIGH ALTITUDE sickness. In other words, it is a different virus and the early symptoms are not necessarily the same as COVID descriptions. Considering the Chinese Communist origins which have been lies at every level including WHO and the Globalist/Bill Gates vaccine and population reduction agenda, we could very well have a massive medical error operating here.

    1. Same Doc with whiteboard schools Sanjum S. Sethi MD, MPH on ARDS:

      https://youtu.be/6BTxqbf0jpE

      Everything I’ve read bullish on hydroxychloroquine as an effective Covid-19 treatment always lists it alongside azithomycin and, most recently, zinc. And getting on it early. And hard. As a prophylactic, even. Here Sanjum S. Sethi MD, MPH mentions lacklustre results with just hydroxychloroquine on ICU patients. So, late, relatively. Renal failure? Yeah. Seems like something you’d expect if your blood can’t deliver oxygen. Or maybe the ventilator did it:

      https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/491557

      1. EXACTLY my earlier point Hugh….it’s always just HCQ on its own…with the MEDIA parroting the FAUCI line, “it’s not good”..!! & More than just a little bit of ANTI Trump sentiment thrown in to boot.

        1. I’m with you steakman.

          There are at least three studies on HCL, but always alone.

          This ain’t complicated.

          The left needs this to stick around a while, so the and their media enablers will do everything they can to discredit it.

  7. Whistleblower Edward Snowden warns citizens’ privacy will suffer as governments will not handover their new found powers after the coronavirus pandemic is over

    Snowden told Vice that governments could exploit the coronavirus pandemic in order to keep their control over the public.

    The cautionary words comes at a time where officials have set strict emergency laws, increased surveillance and suspended civil rights to limit the spread of the disease.

    Snowden also believes that experts and intelligence agencies knew the outbreak was coming, as he himself has read reports planning for such an event.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8214833/Whistleblower-Edward-Snowden-warns-citizens-privacy-suffer-coronavirus-over.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed

    1. In the USA it would be a good idea to do a physical home check ~ 9 days in, but if they violated the order IMHO the most they could do is restart the clock… And warn them that a second violation would have a financial consequence… Remember that after the Virus reaches it’s peak number.. the infection rate is the daily rate.. It is the daily rate that determines risk factor & an ideal time to test medication/ mitigation results. Once we run out of stupid or clumsy people the daily rate will decrease @ a log rate….The risk factor may never reach Zero

      Last week the idiots in MSM were complaining that a medical bed mattress Manufacture has filed a patent violation….The patent holder MUST defend his patent, or he risks losing same….The quick solution would be that the Government PAY the licensing fee on the Mattress such that the users don’t have to destroy them when the Panic ends… Better if china reached a licensing agreement that allowed them to sell in the USA
      Just a idea , could be wrong

  11. Just so you know, this is not the quick antibody test we’ve been hearing about, the one that you need a pinprick for and will tell you if you have an active infection or if you’re over it but have antibodies, and the one being used in other countries. It is another test machine that will give results in 10-15 minutes but only for active coronavirus infection and can only be used by trained personal since it still requires a swab up the snoot. It was one prepared by Government of Canada employees though, and not a private company, probably explains why they got approved.

  12. Key takeaway from this study is 14% of the German town of Gangelt was infected and there was about 0.37% mortality rate. So despite being a hotspot, that isn’t at the level of herd immunity. Meanwhile, Ontario is shuttered for another month. What will there be to go back to?
    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/
    and in The Spectator
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/covid-antibody-test-in-german-town-shows-15-per-cent-infection-rate-0-4pc-death-rate?fbclid=IwAR0BSc3ffFTzMVUApriAzCfl06Fq4CZcoSNuP56zsry1_38YYWkyf_lNZK4

    1. The politicians have boxed themselves in.
      No one has the balls to be the first to open up their economies.

      1. That is why it has to be Trump and hope for the best. If the U.S. reopens, then others will follow.

        1. If the US opens and Trudeau does not claiming he needs a vacine, I think the provinces will over rule or the public will just say screw this, bills to pay, time to move on.
          They can’t arrest everyone.

  14. Link to another Blog The Greater Fool.
    Ryan Lewenza has a Q&A with his brother Dr. Shawn Lewenza who, in Ryans words:
    A bit of background first. Dr Shawn Lewenza is an Associate Professor at Athabasca University and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Calgary. He is a microbiologist with 25 years of experience researching bacterial infections, with a focus on understanding how microbes cause disease and evade the immune response, as well as antibiotic resistance and discovery. Clearly he’s a real treat at dinner parties!
    https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/04/11/the-science-of-covid-19/

  15. Calgary researchers hope to prove hydroxychloroquine effective in COVID-19 treatment
    https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/calgary-researchers-hope-to-prove-hydroxychloroquine-effective-in-covid-19-treatment-1.4893803

    CALGARY — Alberta researchers have started a large clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) to determine whether administering the drug early in a COVID-19 infection will help people battle the virus.
    The researchers, led by a team from the University of Calgary’s Cumming School of Medicine, will recruit 1,600 Albertans to determine whether a five-day treatment of HCQ can prevent hospitalization for people at highest risk of developing severe complications from coronavirus.

  19. Now that Health Canada has approved the use of this test, the Province of Manitoba is testing it to ensure t will be suitable for use here, test – 1 to 2 weeks then order? I hurt all over thinking about it.

    1. Given how the Feds have treated Manitoba during this epidemic, like confiscating and redirecting Manitoba’s order of tens of thousands of PPE from 3M in the USA, sending only a few hundred and then replacing them cheap defective crap from China instead, I am SO relieved Manitoba is retesting this thing. This test is from Federal labs approved by the Federal government. Manitoba darn well better test it for themselves before using it! The Fed cannot be trusted! Westerners are expendable. They don’t vote Liberal.

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