48 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: I’ll Miss The Greenland Ice Sheets”

  1. My only “climate disappointment” is that there weren’t any teams of climate “scientists” who were stuck in that part of Greenland … begging for rescue from the ICE and DEADLY cold. Those stories always … warm … my soul

    1. Doncha know? That’s proof of global warming, er, global climate weirding. Record highs, record lows. They are all caused by “carbon”.

      1. The brain synapses of Warmists are made of carbon fiber … tough, resilient, and a very poor conductor of electrical impulses.

        Liverpool headed toward the record of Arsenal’s legendary invincibles! Not a single loss.

        1. Oh, I hope we better the record of the “Invincibles.” They had, count ’em, TWELVE draws. Liverpool may not even win the EPL this year with that record.
          I do believe Klopp is chasing two EPL records. That one, to be undefeated, and beating City’s 100 points two years ago. I actually believe that last one is easier to attain. Liverpool have 58 points in 20 games. They need 43 more in 18 games. That requires 15 wins, or 14 wins and a draw. That allows for three losses. OTOH, an undefeated record allows for no losses, duh.
          Anyway, the next EPL match is a week away, and yet Klopp is rumored to start all reserves (Adrian, Milner, Lallana, Origi) plus the kids against Everton in the Cup match. Although that is partly because they have eight players on the injured list, it is a sure sign Klopp only cares abut the EPL and UCL if he still chooses to rotate. If it were me, I’d at least start Alisson, Virgil, and Gomez, just to have a solid defense and keep a clean sheet.
          As to the global warming scam, it has been openly admitted so many times by the warmer elites it cannot even count as slips of tongue any more. It’s not about the climate, it is about wealth redistribution. (They sure don’t live their lives as though they thought global warming was a problem.) They’ll make any stupid claim if they think there are people who’ll buy it.

          1. It’s also all about command and control. We’re living it here in CA. More and more asinine regulations that take away our standard of living … and make our lives more miserable. Take away our disposable incomes as basic fuel and water become unaffordable. The State is crushing the people. Destroying freedom.

  2. But but Greta and Al Gore and the Fake Negro PM of the Fake country Canada said we were all going to melt…. You don’t suppose they would lie to us would they

  4. -62C according to Bing.
    Now my question is;Can Environment Canada’s equipment accurately measure this temperature.?
    Given the stated range of their current equipment is -40 to 60C?
    I no longer trust anyone in our bureaus.
    The equipment Nav Canada installed in the 1990s was junk,so we have no accurate northern temperatures until the mid 2000s when they quietly upgraded,under contract from Environment Canada.
    The ARTCIC IS WARMING at TWICE the rate of anywhere else…
    Easy peasy if you clip anything colder than -40.

  5. Nice to be stuck in AZ ,,,,Nope! no deep freeze here….Palm tree shade & Jackie-D to cool down…

  6. People keep asking me if I think it’s chilly? And I haven’t really had an answer. But now, yeah, I’m thinking it’s chilly.

  7. That -86F is just weather. I’m sure January 2020 will be the coldest ever. With most of Australia burning down they might actually be right for a change ?

  8. See the Canadian weather guys have totally changed our winter forecast for southern Ontario. It was supposed to be below normal code with lots of snow. Now above normal temperatures with rain not snow.

    1. And then at the end of winter, when it will, of course, be cold and snowy, they’ll tell us it was the warmest winter of all time.

      Believe them, not your own eyes.

  9. -60!!! I remember as a young man working in northern Quebec in the winter, surveying and prospecting in frozen swamps, we lived in canvas tents heated by oil-drip stoves, I had to relieve myself when it was -50 so I left the tent to drop my wool pants at the latrine which was a pole tied to two swamp spruce trees… I needed the $400 a month paycheck… you do get conditioned and acclimatized, we’d wash our faces and hands outside with snow, ate lots of ice cream every day.

  12. Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) January 3, 2020

    And an hour later, Ryan Maue again:
    Long range forecasts have 70s in the mid-Atlantic next weekend.
    What the hell happened to winter?

    In a stable climate, the ratio of new record highs to new record lows is approximately even. However in our warming climate, record highs have begun to outpace record lows, with the imbalance growing for the past three decades. This trend is one of the clearest signals of climate change that we experience directly.
    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datatools/records

    1. he’s not that stupid…..temps have been rising for over 200 years…of course there’s more record highs
      ..and of course…the longer you go out…the greater the “imbalance”

      these are smart people….why are they pushing this agenda

    2. Dizzy, it’s not smart to show your mathematical, ineptitude like that , you have rising scale graph for the last long while, so yah, record highs will out pace the lows, are you that stupid, BTW rhetorical question

      1. // you have rising scale graph for the last long while, so yah //
        Spare me your illiteracy. The quotes are from the links

    3. There is nothing wrong with climate change. It’s been going on for millions of years.

      Canada has been a lot warmer (witness fossil trees on Ellesmere Island), and a lot colder (ice age anyone?). Personally I like warmer.

  13. 61 degree’s was Brownsville, tx. temp this morning. had to wear a light jacket. but by noon fed by a warm sun we went up to 76. I sure hope winter is over soon. brrrr.

  14. “Environment Canada’s stations have temperature sensors located at 1.25 to 1.5 metres above ground. … Temperature sensors have an operating range of -40°C to +60°C and are capable of recording temperatures within 0.1°C. All temperature sensors (WIN and Environment Canada) have an accuracy of ± 0.6°C or better.
    Weather Station Locations | SCIC
    https://www.scic.ca › weather-based › weather-station-locations”
    Very convenient for measuring an Arctic Environment.
    Clipping the signal,hence No Record Lows.
    In fact cannot register any “record lows” as outside accuracy of equipment.

    What you figure?
    By design or incompetence?
    I do not exclude “AND”.

    1. You seem to imply that there is some attempt to not record record lows below -40C in order to support the climate warming claim.
      This, even if it were true, would make a vanishingly small difference to the relative numbers of record highs and lows.

      Limiting the records to just Canada [the Greenland site managed to record its record low] there are over 8700 recording stations, with data from [some part of] the period 1880 & 2020.
      About 7% of these are in the three Territories, where one might expect to find extremes below the -40C that you say are the lower limit.
      But the extrema are measured for every day of the year, and only a short period of THAT would be the coldest range.

      So among the 3 million or so daily extrema per year, a VERY small number would even be potentially at issue in your “by design AND/Or incompetence” imputation.
      [As a really minor aside, an over representation of the extreme low temperatures would have occurred before climate change was a general issue]

      That’s for Canada. Given the hundreds of thousands of measurements around the world, I think that a claim that there are more high extrema than low in recent years can be taken to the bank.

      https://climate.weather.gc.ca/historical_data/search_historic_data_e.html
      Station Results – Historical Data

      1. dizzy,
        Take it to the bank if you want it that badly but there still is no “climate emergency”. Recovery from the little ice age means a slight, benign and beneficial warming. How about taking that to the bank, then devoting your energies to real problems.

        1. // Recovery from the little ice means //
          nothing without addressing what caused the “recovery”
          There has to be some force acting on the climate.

          Take a look at this graph of temperatures for the past millennium.
          https://www.co2levels.org

          Click at top left to juxtapose temperatures with CO2 levels.
          And that is a rather large hint as to the recent cause.

          1. There is a long documented record of temp manipulations by the warmistas by McKintrick and others. You cannot trust the warmistas as they tweak the records to fit their agenda.

    2. And it was -42C yesterday [Jan 2] at one of the Alert stations, so lower than -40 can be measured.

        1. // You are aware, of course, that there were lush forests in Iceland, a scant 3000 years ago? //

          From your link:
          “Examinations revealed that the tree stump died very quickly at 89-years-old in the month of June.
          Nearby sediments and data suggest that the glacier itself was the culprit.”
          And can one speculate that the “excavated Under the glacier” really means “the retreating glacier coughed it up”?
          // During the Little Ice Age between 1600 and 1900 AD, with cooler temperatures prevailing in these latitudes, the glacier advanced to about 1 kilometre (0.62 mi) from the coast at Jokulsa River.[1] Since 1890, it has been retreating, retreating a total of 5.6 km (3.5 mi) during the 20th century. // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breiðamerkurjökull

          1. So you’re saying, it’s gotten warmer, without speculating. Do you consider that a bad thing, or do you prefer an ice ages? If you prefer colder, tell us by how much?

      2. In the late 70’s I worked in northern Saskatchewan. Night time lows were -60 F. We checked with the Cree Lake weather station a few times… -64 F sticks in my mind. Our mercury thermometers only went to -40 C….. the mercury was buried in the bubble, well below the -40 mark. Called for the helicopter crew, as fiber glass blades tend to be brittle at low temps.
        Single walled tents and an oil stove. You kept a bucket of water on top of the stove for the anticipated “tink, tink, tink” of cooling metal with ice crystals clogging up the fuel line from the fuel drum outside and choked off fuel line. There’s no life like it. I’ve got stories about some of that Globble Warmenting I experienced.

  15. BOOK THE FIRST POVERTY

    Chapter 1

    Sun and Shadow

    Thirty years ago, Marseilles lay burning in the sun, one day.
    A blazing sun upon a fierce August day was no greater rarity in southern France then, than at any other time, before or since. Everything in Marseilles, and about Marseilles, had stared at the fervid sky, and been stared at in return, until a staring habit had become universal there. Strangers were stared out of countenance by staring white houses, staring white walls, staring white streets, staring tracts of arid road, staring hills from which verdure was burnt away. The only things to be seen not fixedly staring and glaring were the vines drooping under their load of grapes. These did occasionally wink a little, as the hot air barely moved their faint leaves.
    There was no wind to make a ripple on the foul water within the harbour, or on the beautiful sea without. The line of demarcation between the two colours, black and blue, showed the point which the pure sea would not pass; but it lay as quiet as the abominable pool, with which it never mixed. Boats without awnings were too hot to touch; ships blistered at their moorings; the stones of the quays had not cooled, night or day, for months. Hindoos, Russians, Chinese, Spaniards, Portuguese, Englishmen, Frenchmen, Genoese, Neapolitans, Venetians, Greeks, Turks, descendants from all the builders of Babel, come to trade at Marseilles, sought the shade alike — taking refuge in any hiding-place from a sea too intensely blue to be looked at, and a sky of purple, set with one great flaming jewel of fire.
    The universal stare made the eyes ache. Towards the distant line of Italian coast, indeed, it was a little relieved by light clouds of mist, slowly rising from the evaporation of the sea, but it softened nowhere else. Far away the staring roads, deep in dust, stared from the hill-side, stared from the hollow, stared from the interminable plain. Far away the dusty vines overhanging wayside cottages, and the monotonous wayside avenues of parched trees without shade, drooped beneath the stare of earth and sky. So did the horses with drowsy bells, in long files of carts, creeping slowly towards the interior; so did their recumbent drivers, when they were awake, which rarely happened; so did the exhausted labourers in the fields. Everything that lived or grew, was oppressed by the glare; except the lizard, passing swiftly over rough stone walls, and the cicala, chirping his dry hot chirp, like a rattle. The very dust was scorched brown, and something quivered in the atmosphere as if the air itself were panting.
    Blinds, shutters, curtains, awnings, were all closed and drawn to keep out the stare. Grant it but a chink or keyhole, and it shot in like a white-hot arrow. The churches were the freest from it. To come out of the twilight of pillars and arches — dreamily dotted with winking lamps, dreamily peopled with ugly old shadows piously dozing, spitting, and begging — was to plunge into a fiery river, and swim for life to the nearest strip of shade. So, with people lounging and lying wherever shade was, with but little hum of tongues or barking of dogs, with occasional jangling of discordant church bells and rattling of vicious drums, Marseilles, a fact to be strongly smelt and tasted, lay broiling in the sun one day.

    https://www.victorianlondon.org/etexts/dickens/dorrit-0001.shtml

  16. I hope this is more readable.

    BOOK THE FIRST POVERTY

    Chapter 1

    Sun and Shadow

    Thirty years ago, Marseilles lay burning in the sun, one day.
    A blazing sun upon a fierce August day was no greater rarity in southern France then, than at any other time, before or since. Everything in Marseilles, and about Marseilles, had stared at the fervid sky, and been stared at in return, until a staring habit had become universal there. Strangers were stared out of countenance by staring white houses, staring white walls, staring white streets, staring tracts of arid road, staring hills from which verdure was burnt away. The only things to be seen not fixedly staring and glaring were the vines drooping under their load of grapes. These did occasionally wink a little, as the hot air barely moved their faint leaves.
    There was no wind to make a ripple on the foul water within the harbour, or on the beautiful sea without. The line of demarcation between the two colours, black and blue, showed the point which the pure sea would not pass; but it lay as quiet as the abominable pool, with which it never mixed. Boats without awnings were too hot to touch; ships blistered at their moorings; the stones of the quays had not cooled, night or day, for months. Hindoos, Russians, Chinese, Spaniards, Portuguese, Englishmen, Frenchmen, Genoese, Neapolitans, Venetians, Greeks, Turks, descendants from all the builders of Babel, come to trade at Marseilles, sought the shade alike — taking refuge in any hiding-place from a sea too intensely blue to be looked at, and a sky of purple, set with one great flaming jewel of fire.
    The universal stare made the eyes ache. Towards the distant line of Italian coast, indeed, it was a little relieved by light clouds of mist, slowly rising from the evaporation of the sea, but it softened nowhere else. Far away the staring roads, deep in dust, stared from the hill-side, stared from the hollow, stared from the interminable plain. Far away the dusty vines overhanging wayside cottages, and the monotonous wayside avenues of parched trees without shade, drooped beneath the stare of earth and sky. So did the horses with drowsy bells, in long files of carts, creeping slowly towards the interior; so did their recumbent drivers, when they were awake, which rarely happened; so did the exhausted labourers in the fields. Everything that lived or grew, was oppressed by the glare; except the lizard, passing swiftly over rough stone walls, and the cicala, chirping his dry hot chirp, like a rattle. The very dust was scorched brown, and something quivered in the atmosphere as if the air itself were panting.
    Blinds, shutters, curtains, awnings, were all closed and drawn to keep out the stare. Grant it but a chink or keyhole, and it shot in like a white-hot arrow. The churches were the freest from it. To come out of the twilight of pillars and arches — dreamily dotted with winking lamps, dreamily peopled with ugly old shadows piously dozing, spitting, and begging — was to plunge into a fiery river, and swim for life to the nearest strip of shade. So, with people lounging and lying wherever shade was, with but little hum of tongues or barking of dogs, with occasional jangling of discordant church bells and rattling of vicious drums, Marseilles, a fact to be strongly smelt and tasted, lay broiling in the sun one day.

      1. Bullsip: “There are no results for the last time co2 was this high
        Check your spelling or try different keywords

        Ref A: 2326CD5E2FF440C28C44E48292667433 Ref B: WSTEDGE0510 Ref C: 2020-01-05T07:09:05Z”

        In answer to your 1:51 pm post below

  17. Just think what would be happening right now if the CO2 trend had been reversed and we were now sitting at 170ppm. Then there would be an actual global emergency happening right now. That’s how close we were to mass starvations.

    We still need more CO2 in the atmosphere….not less.

    And don’t get me wrong…I’m all for less people. 😉

    1. // Just think what would be happening right now if the CO2 trend had been reversed and we were now sitting at 170ppm. //

      The last time CO2 was at that level was at the end of the last ice age. ~ 20 000BP
      On the other hand, the last time CO2 was at today’s level was 3 million years ago, and sea level was 20 meters higher.
      https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+last+time+co2+was+this+high

      We’re heading out of the Goldilocks zone.

  20. Part of the human condition seems to be that we think what is happening in our lifetime is the first time it ever happened. When it comes to the weather and the climate that is demonstrably false.

  22. It was that cold at the Edmonton International Airport in 2016. Coldest place on the planet that day, -64C.

  23. these temps remind us of various bawdy jokes and limericks related to things freezing up.

    there once was a young esquimau
    tried to make love
    to his girlfriend in the snau
    on being exposed
    he found himself froze
    and said since I cant cum
    I must gau

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