37 Replies to “Wynneing!”

  1. I loved this saying…fits the liberals….

    Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by clean end!

  2. Any Ontario Conservative who doesn’t vote loses the right to gripe about the outcome.

    1. We have achieved majority stupid.
      What does that mean?

      You can only win by appealing to stupid.
      Anything not stupid is guaranteed to lose.
      Therefore there are only two ways to win:
      Promise stupid, implement stupid.
      Promise stupid, implement something else; IE LIE.

      We know that Wynne is fully committed to promising stupid, implementing stupid.

      Ford is polling high; therefore he is promising stupid.

      All that remains to be seen is if Ford is a liar or not. Liar is the only way you get double plus ungood unstupid…

      So I am doubtful that anything changes whether any number of people vote, or do not vote…

      1. So you’re conceding defeat before it’s even held? This is why conservatism loses; folks who have no stomach for the fight.

        1. I agree with your comments both here and below, and I am up for the fight. But I also agree with Kevin below: the biggest threat to Canada, now, is Ontario’s perfidy.

          I am extremely concerned that the Ontario Tories have a blind spot wrt the Ontario NDP: I believe that the former (the Ontario’s PCs), in the past 15 years (or the past 35 years, according to taste) that “the locusts have eaten” (a Churchill reference), have given up their position as the agents of change in Ontario. The locusts have certainly eaten the past few months, which have been an utter embarrassment for our Party, actually.

          On the other hand, I am generally — and genuinely — impressed with Ford, for whom I did not vote for leader (I did not vote, actually, on account of my extreme revulsion at the spectacle of it all). He has promised to re-calibrate the education system (within which, regardless, I’m guessing he did not go too far) and he certainly gets traffic gridlock in the GTA, which is a major problem for everyone in Ontario, as is the education system, in a way that none of the other leaders seems to get (Andrea Horwath’s pontifications in the recent CityTV debate about how she would handle the GTA traffic gridlock was particularly horrifying). He did well in said debate, against opponents who have much more political experience than he has; you may recall that I recently recommended that he not participate in such debates, but now, I am much more sanguine.

          Nevertheless, the realities of the situation are as follows:

          – Kathleen Wynne is done;

          – Many (as in many) of her former supporters will go to the NDP to stop Ford;

          – To dissuade our people and Wynne’s former supporter’s from sliding to the NDP as the agents of change, the Ontario PC Party must adopt (as in NOW) an aggressive advertising program (air war) to remind everyone of the last NDP government in Ontario, which was led by…wait for it…Bob Rae.

          – That advertising campaign must include the tag-line: “If you are thinking of voting for Andrea Horwath, Bob Rae is all you’ll get.”

          -Let’s review the history:

          — “Rae Days” (as in work-sharing), and the so-called “Social Contract”;
          — “I like high taxes”.
          — Double-digit Hydro rate increases (light-bulbs in the mail).
          — Massive deficits (doubled Ontario’s debt in five years, vs. previous 128 years)
          — Non-merit-based affirmative action in the public sector, along with employment “equity”.
          — High unemployment.
          — Doctors and nurses fleeing to the US in search of employment.
          — Cuts in police and mental health care services.
          — “Buffalo Business Booster of the Year.” billboards — featuring a pic of Mr. Rae.
          — “Kills mice (mousetrap pic). Kills flies (fly-swatter pic). Kills jobs (pic of Bob Rae).” billboards.

          and, get this:

          — Followed by the Mea Culpa: “Mike Harris was right. but he shouldn’t have been so mean about it.”

          I say that a sound military strategy includes not only an attack on your principle target, but a solid defence of your flanks.

          Shall we get on with it? If not now, when?

          1. Agree with pretty much all of that. I’m not convinced that the NDP is much of a threat. Since 2002, the Liberals have been steadily sliding left all along. What they’ve done is lose the ‘fiscally conservative, socially progressive’ voter. They’re so far to the left now that I find it difficult to imagine how anyone could imagine moving from Ford to Horwath, and vs. versa. At least not in numbers enough to worry about.

            But this is a minor quibble about tactics. Much more important is I’m endlessly tired with conservatives who won’t support a candidate because he/she isn’t socially conservative enough for them. All that thinking does is spread a welcome mat for another four years of Liberal majority. So we agree, “Enough with the griping. That’s what’s on offer. Take it or leave it.”

            Finally, too many people here lose focus on why elections are won or lost. General rule of thumb: conservatives win when an election is about the economy; they lose when it’s about social policy.

    2. Well, Conservatives in some ridings have the option for voting for the Trillium Party. I think that Ford made a strategic error in dumping Granic-Allen. He looks disloyal and social conservatives are peeved. She was only one person, so she was not really hurting the party that much. Getting rid of her may have alienated enough social conservatives to result in their staying home. I doubt he has gained any new support with the move. The party (according to above tweet) does not have much opportunity for growth, but with a move like this, I see opportunity for it to shrink. Ford may need the social conservatives and he may have lost them.

      1. No, Granic-Allen is a nutcase, a single-issue fanatic. It says nothing about disloyalty. Do try to remember that she was a competitor with Ford for the leadership. He owes her nothing except the back of his hand for splitting his vote. It’s about a party leader not afraid to make tough decisions regardless of the squalling to the contrary. Like it or not, a party leader has the power to approve or not approve candidates. It’s always been that way. Don Valley North is a key riding if the Conservatives are to win. Last thing we need is her scaring off the voters.

        1. Well, the “nutcase” had a lot of social conservative supporters, and now they effectively have no voice. Why would social conservatives come out to vote for Ford? Of course they do not have a home with Liberals or NDP either, so the simple thing would be to stay home. I think Ford has lost them

      2. Keeping Granic Allen would have given the liberals a target to expound about lack of Conservative values. Of course the lapdog Ontario media both print and electronic would have done as directed and beat that drum continually till election day.

        1. She was one person in one riding, and she was a known quantity. As long as the Pc’s did not look like they were dominated by social conservatives, their numbers were holding and her presence was not a problem. She is also articulate and quite capable of defending herself. Now they have alienated social conservatives, and I think it may cost them the election. We’ll see what their numbers look like next week.

    3. cgh: The Ontario Conservatives who don’t vote had better keep their mouth closed if they don’t get out and vote!! Doug Ford is working his a$$ off for the Ont Cons….ONTARIO NEEDS A CHANGE OR IT WILL DIE LOSING JOBS TO USA!!

    4. put a conservative out there and I will vote for him/her. there hasn’t been a true conservative in government in this country in my life time and i was a party member for a very long time. i will no longer vote for the lesser of three or four stupid people. if you don’t embrace my values you don’t get my vote.

  5. With 60% split between the Libs and Dippers, Ford has to pimp the middle for fear of galvanizing them into one or the other. He can swing right if he wins. That’s as good as it gets in the deranged dominion.

    1. true. I was trying to remember if he ever ran for the Liberals in the Hamilton area. Either way, it’s an embarrassment for any news outlet to have him write political “analysis” without a brief disclosure of his background. but what else is new??

  8. It’s astounding to me that after years of devastation by the extremist Liberal rule, support for the Conservatives isn’t 80%. That it’s only at 40% suggests that the populace has been brainwashed beyond the point of return to sanity, and the left will hold power for the foreseeable future.

    1. That is the really sad part of all of this, and the media is the culprit.

    2. Sadly, fully agreed. Ontario is beyond lost at this point. Even if Ford wins, he’ll have such a colossal mess on his hands that he’s likely to preside over ~4 years of brutal conditions trying to restore some sanity to the place, then get thrown out by tantrum throwing voters who won’t understand why Ford had to be so mean to them. That, or he’ll just tack left, and then nothing changes and Ontario continues to swirl the bowl.

      1. This is exactly how I feel. Harris won the election, started to change the province and got voted out as a result. Any government that does what needs to be done will last one term. If they decide staying in power is more important than fixing our province they will try and maintain power by bribing us with our own money.

        1. No he didn’t get voted out. Harris won two majority governments in a row and resigned as Premier for personal reasons in 2002. He turned the government over to Ernie Eves who promptly lost the next election. After Ipperwash and Walkerton, it was questionable whether Harris could have won a third term had he stayed on. But by that time the media and the public sector unions were really out to get him.

    3. I think it’s due to the progressives believing that what’s been happening to all of us, politically, economically and now morally, is good. But there just isn’t enough of it. I suspect they won’t be happy until they have their own private Venezuela.

      These people are extraordinarily stupid.

  9. Harper had “no room to grow.” Trump had and has “no room to grow.”

    The Brexit movement had “no room to grow.”

    Now Ford has “no room to grow,” and the GOP in the House have “no room to grow.”

    IOW representative government has “no room to grow” not because of reality, but fear of statist loss of power.

    Cry me a river. They’re in the same denial as Joe Clark was in 1980 when he predicted a PC majority victory.

    Biased polling, indeed polling in general, only accurate on election night, if that, is what has “no room to grow.”

    1. Quite right. Canadians very rarely leave a government in power for more than 15 years. It should be obvious by now that Ontario voters are indeed in a mood for change. The only real question at this moment is the degree to which Liberal scare tactics will make Conservative voters stay home.

  10. John HORgan…
    Andrea HORvath…
    SEE THE CONNECTION?

    So every NDP leader nationwide, I will just assume they are pipeline protesters.

    Equalization will never end, FYI. The only way a region could save itself from being taken down by Ontario WHEN it defaults is immediate separation from Canada (before Ontario defaults). Anyone have a political leader who has mentioned that?

  11. Reads like an old Pravda report from Olympics.

    “In the sprint finals between USSR and US, our team finished in the second place and Americans were second last”.

  12. To paraphrase C McKenna, I have no time for A-holes who vote Liberal. The province is in a deep, light-less hole financially and all these cunned stunts see are blue skies and sunny ways. “Free” this and “free” that is double-speak, delusional shyte. It will take well over 10 years of real fiscal prudence to keep bankruptcy and or brutal taxation/cost increases from killing the province.

  13. I know I’ll get flamed…like I give a sh!t. Maybe it’s just me – every time I hear Ford talk he sounds like he’s total tool. I’ll be holding my nose checking that box.

    1. I don’t particularly like him either. I did before the campaign started, but he has been a big disappointment.

  14. Granic-Allen’s supporters put Ford over the top. That is a quite reasonable read of the leadership balloting if you followed the voting that day. It’s a minority, to be sure, but one that is needed and part of the winning coalition. Pissing them off is not a good idea; and as a likely PC voter, I would more identify with them than the red tory element that is the bane of the PC’s of Ontario. They’re the ones who get all in a flutter whenever the Toronto Red Star begins tutt-tutting the conservatives for being insufficiently progressive, liberal, politically correct, etc.

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