It’s your life. Be a passenger.
Whence comes this rush to robot cars? Did the public demand it? Or have our betters in the tech industry and in the bowels of the bureaucracy taken it upon themselves to correct our lamentable human failings and, in the name of “safety,” shove these vehicles down our throats?
Uber is probably a better deal for the elderly and infirm than a self driving car.
In the Minneapolis area they have Metro Transit that does door to door service for the handicapped, elderly and infirm. The attendants come to your door, and escort you to the vehicle. They load the wheelchair bound people and secure the wheelchair. They drive you directly to your destination. They unload you and escort you to the door. You can schedule regular pickups for work, and appointments, all for $3.50 US.
Will the self driving car escort you to your door and make sure you get inside safely?. Will it make sure you are buckled up safely? Will it schlep your groceries, briefcase, or oxygen for you?
Will the self driving car mow down Bambi or the bicyclists?
Capcha is ciber (sic) boulevard. Fitting for a discussion of killer self driving cars.
It cracks me up the number of random average joes here who think they have some sort of insight into this technology that the entire engineering departments of Google, Apple, Uber, General Motors, and the rest somehow missed. Dunning-Kruger effect at its very finest.
Kate, we didn’t even get to the uncontrolled railroad crossings, ha ha!
Kate, we didn’t even get to the uncontrolled railroad crossings, ha ha!
It’s not about the engineers, it’s that politicians and the chattering class are the perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
you rang????
Yeah but you have like 6 people in this thread alone claiming it’s theoretically impossible due to some vaguely stated fundamental laws of programming and/or physics.
I’m sorry guys but that ENGCOMP 100 class you took back in 1992 does not qualify you to speak about this with any sort of authority.
Unme and Anonymous II. I expect you live in the 416. Your life experiences are far different from a great number of people in this country. I do realize that 50 % of the population of Canada lives within 400 km of Toronto. So you may well have the majority of the population on your side. But this country is more than 7500 km wide. Your narrow world view shutters you from the rest of the country. Downtown Tirranna and close environs has limited your views. Sure, you may have travelled as far as London, or Sarnia, or even Quebec City.
But you do not understand the rest of Canada until you have traveled across it. And I don’t mean by flying over in a plane. I mean by traveling by car. You will never know this country until you load up the car, or truck, or RV, and see it for yourself. You will never do that in a self driving car.
I do admit that self driving cars could resurrect the downtown night club scene. The days of meeting for a pint are all but gone.
Thank you LC Bennett.
You capture my reservations as well.
Years ago I took Control Systems as part of an Engineering course.
The critical systems will be most interesting, what kind of service life do the promoters envisage?
Throw in road salt,rain,ocean breezes,squirrels,rats,insects and the normal high vibration, high thermal gradient environs of an automobile…
How soon before communication breakdown?
How smart will this system be at 40 below?
The Urban solution has been here for years, several retirement communities already use it.
Golf Carts.
Cheap,reliable and fairly safe.
If the cities can impose bicycle lanes on us,they may as well have “Golden Years” lanes as well.
I’m 70, and I’ll drive myself , thanks. As a dyslexic I should be a piss poor driver, I’m not, I constantly get compliments about my driving. I love driving, and will keep doing so. But I do see a need for self driving cars, especially for A$$holes like Unthing, and libbies in general, those MoFo’s can bludy drive, I know, I keep encountering them on the road!!!
“I liked Pinochet. He only wanted to make communists and leftists go away. A much misunderstood and maligned person.” Me too. That is why the lefties hounded him when they got the chance.
They don’t even have the ability to have self driving trains, which are on tracks.
Deal with it.
Even more to worry about
“Perils of GPU Math For Scientific Computing”
“Or: Nvidia has a brain fart…”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/03/25/perils-of-gpu-math-for-scientific-computing/
Or pedestrians
“Or: Nvidia has a brain fart…
I’d not be so worried about this were it not for Climate Models being ported to CUDA code that uses NVIDIA GPUs for processing and NVIDIA being widely used in the vision and control systems of self driving cars.
Seems the new ones have sporadically wrong math… It has “reproducibility” problems with it’s math.
(Bolding done by me)
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/21/nvidia_titan_v_reproducibility/
2 + 2 = 4, er, 4.1, no, 4.3… Nvidia’s Titan V GPUs spit out ‘wrong answers’ in scientific simulations
Fine for gaming, not so much for modeling, it is claimed”
More at
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/03/25/perils-of-gpu-math-for-scientific-computing/
Or pedestrians
“Or: Nvidia has a brain fart…
I’d not be so worried about this were it not for Climate Models being ported to CUDA code that uses NVIDIA GPUs for processing and NVIDIA being widely used in the vision and control systems of self driving cars.
Seems the new ones have sporadically wrong math… It has “reproducibility” problems with it’s math.
(Bolding done by me)
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/21/nvidia_titan_v_reproducibility/
2 + 2 = 4, er, 4.1, no, 4.3… Nvidia’s Titan V GPUs spit out ‘wrong answers’ in scientific simulations
Fine for gaming, not so much for modeling, it is claimed”
More at
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/03/25/perils-of-gpu-math-for-scientific-computing/
Yeah & you still have to wait 20-40 minutes for that bus, especially where there is no light rail or tram or……. The only way out of that (& corporations are rarely eager for that kind of “freeedom”….yet) is telecommute from home. I know of only one person that is doing that, but only 2 days a week, as the other 3 are mandated in the office.
Other than that, you have to deal with cities that go out of their way, in a northern wintery city, to make driving your automobile to work a war on cars/vehicles. Besides, telcos don’t have the bandwidth that would be needed installed for everyone to do this. Try my DSL “service” barely watch a movie for an extortionate amount of monthly bandwidth fees.
Well said Ward. And with the elimination of income tax it would axe all the other crap that governments try to foist on us using our own money.
“My guess would be the single biggest boost in human productivity would be the elimination of income taxes.”
My guess would be the single biggest boost in human productivity would be the elimination of
incometaxes.There, FIFY.
Oh bullshit. Notice how people here aren’t talking about the spendapolooza south of the border? Because Tangerine Dream signed it, so it must be good. They like big government when it’s on ‘their side’ ie E-verify, walls, immigration restrictions, drug war, etc
Someone said I lived in the 416 that is wrong just another bit of nonsense courtesy of your tribalism. I consider Calgary hometown. I have no desire to see all of Canada, most of it looks pretty empty and boring anyways. I might like to visit Montreal and QC sometime. No interest in Toronto.
Safety? The pilot project just killed a human being. That’s one death in thousands of hours of operation. Human operation adds up to trillions of hours of operation to thousands of deaths. My thumb nail calculation is that the safety claim is invalid.
Oh Joey, joey joey. Are you an entitled millenial that wants his Gig bandwidth for $10 a month?
Sorry, but a certain Telco has built out fibre in Ft St John, Dawson Crk, Quesnel, Williams Lake, 100 Mile, and yes many towns in Alberta, and still underway, get the idea? But if you live in a 1 horse town, it ain’t gonna happen. Pre fibre, in many of these centres, you could get 50Mb on copper, 100 if you were real lucky.
Building it is expensive and takes time, something that entitled millenials are clueless about. It requires the right gut number of REs, OLTs, fibre splitters, DWDMs, etc, to make it all function optimally. Oh, it’s expensive? Pity, what did you expect, it’s a FOR PROFIT business, not a government make work project.
Is the public throwing up some great demand for it?
If you believe the words… not really.
If you look around at actions? Count the number of people reading. People with video on. People talking on their phone. People texting… or all the other stuff they are doing instead of paying attention to driving….
You bet the average person is demanding it. They just dont seem to think they are.