21 Replies to “Shut Up, Tinfoil People”

  1. I don’t know why people fixate on the auto-complete in Google. The rot goes much deeper than that. Try typing in the whole phrase “how can you vote for Donald Trump”, and look at the results. Or simply Google “Donald Trump” and look at the results. The first thing you’ll see will be a new addition – a media block which includes negative stories from CNN, WPA, The Guardian, and the Grey Lady. A sidebar will link you to Wikipedia’s hatchet job on Donald Trump. Below that are a few links to Donald’s own pages, and then below that are page after page of negative story links about him. In fact, you typically have to page through 14 or 15 pages before you find any links that aren’t negatively biased.
    Part of this, they come by honestly; after all, the press aren’t exactly helping.
    The results on Bing are such a close analogue of the Google results that I wonder sometimes if they simply spider Google instead of maintaining their own search. You have to go to DuckDuckGo or Yahoo to see a more rounded picture.

  2. Google and Facebook need to be broken-up for violation of Anti-Trust Laws. These Robber Barons are no less destructive to a Free, Democratic, Capitalist society … just because they aren’t doing it with Iron Horses, Steel production, or Oil. Their monopolies on information dissemination are much worse than the 19th Century Monoplists.
    I remain a proud non-user of Facebook. Never will I EVER subject myself to THAT level of direct assault on my personal thoughts and activities.

  3. It doesn’t do that for me. At all. Either Ezra gets results, or something else is going on.

  4. People still use Google? They never heard of duckduckgo the only search engine that does not profile (i.e. does not collect info on) users? You’re welcome.
    Next thing they tell me that they still use Chrome.

  5. I just tried it and it gave me almost exactly the same results except it offered me info on how to vote for Josh donaldson….

  6. This should be a warning sign….don’t vote for Clinton. It’s an oblique interference in the election process. Any bets this would be happening no matter who was in the GOP ticket?

  7. I tried it and it works. I then typed “How do I vote for Trump” the results gave no useful information so I moved my cursor back to the search bar and in the drop down menu I got,
    “Who actually supports Trump”
    “Why would anyone vote for Donald Trump”
    “Would you vote for Donald Trump pole”
    “Don’t vote for Trump”
    Hmmmm I guess the fix is in.

  8. I tried on BOTH google.ca and google.com and got surprisingly different results. How do “I” vote… brought up Trump and the third string candidates, with no mention of Hillary. Type in how do “you” vote… and my experience was similar to Ezra’s.
    Now, where the hell did I put my tinfoil hat when I took it off last night….?

  9. Question from a tech in-savvy geezer.
    Does the behavior of the search terms reflect a deliberate act at YouTube to distort the issue or simply an aggressive effort by the Clinton campaign to load the deck?

  10. The fix is in and we call this democracy. What should worry people with a thought process beyond a turnip is how close this is to political interference. How close is it to political corruption?

  11. Remember that Google maintains a profile based on your activity, and tunes search results based on that. Try clearing your cache, (log out of your profile if you’re silly and using Chrome), and pretend to be undecided.

  12. If you are going to steal an election, you can’t have the polls leading up to it show that the race is close. If you want the masses to accept it, you have to build the narractive first.

  13. For a while, I was documenting this kind of activity by Google, and collecting evidence of skewed results, and nasty little tricks like hiding or failing to update the number of viewers of a live stream event, or, for example, running a script to slowly decrement the number of likes or dislikes a video receives.
    I gave up, because it’s so slippery; it’s like trying to grasp at an eel. These things are turned off and on, and can change on a daily basis. The counter decrement script, (and most of the comments relating to it on videos) quietly disappeared, then reappeared a couple of months later.
    Search results are inconsistent by design: they change based on your profile, and when people complain. Then just as quietly change back again.
    There’s also this wonderful plausible deniability. Google never admits to any human actors at all, but instead blames “code under development”, or “experimental algorithms”.
    It will be a long time before the great mass of people become aware of this manipulation, and it’s possible that they never will.

  14. C.O.D. – I also tried google.com and google.ca; they both suggested Trump for “how can i vote”. We do know that Google’s algorithms take into account previous search history; maybe my regular hits on AceofSpades and SDA tilted my results.

  15. I tried typing “How can I vote for” and up comes “Donald Trump”. Surprise. But “How can you vote for” still gets you “Hillary”. Strange.

  16. While I realize we are discussing a US election, I do recall working at the polls during a Cdn federal election in the late 70’s when an old drunk walked into the Legion hall and yelled out, ”I want to vote Liberal.” The poll clerk phoned the DRO and was told that we could oust him if we thought it was done with intentions of boosting the Liberal Party. He left it up to us. I let him vote, knowing he was too drunk to know what he was doing, and that the PCs always won this seat anyway. And they won with 69% of the vote.
    So why isn’t the FBI investigating Google?? Easy to see that Google is on the take!

  17. Always the ministry of truth. Anyone who puts “don’t be evil” in their corporate charter… Well you should know by now people generally self label the opposite of what they actually are.

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