49 Replies to “A Glimpse into How PET Jr. Got Elected”
You gotta be kidding!!!!!!
Or they could be the cover for massive voter fraud.
How do we check?
It seems likely that the LIV carried the election for the liberals in the East, but they are LIV, so how could they vote consistently for anything?
Just as many thought Harper was a Liberal, this tends to undermine the concept that LIV carried the day.
So who did the counting?
The same people who allowed masked persons to vote.My confidence is throughly strengthened …Not.
Vote early vote often.
Also I am real curious about the 8 million voters who did not.Who are they?
The Gone Galt Division?
Kids, in other words.
This is gotta be a setup. I know many, many liv and none are quite this stupid.
Assuming these idiots are for real, how can they possibly cast a responsible ballot? Toss a coin? First name on the ballot? Nicest hair?
Oh, I don’t know. Just before the election I had one young, doe-eyed cashier at Canadian Tire tell me that she HAD to get out to vote and keep Stephen Harper out of office, ’cause he’s like a sociopath, don’t you know?
Now THAT result is the true mark of an effective propoganda campaign!
I work for an accounting firm. We issued a newsletter to all our high net worth clients yesterday letting them know how much the increased taxes and new dividend treatments are going to cost them. We also let them know we developed a new strategy to save all that and more. Suck it Trudeau
* “fredr says… one young, doe-eyed cashier at Canadian Tire tell me that she HAD to get out to vote and keep Stephen Harper out of office, ’cause he’s like a sociopath…”
these kids are, in ontario anyway, the product of the mcguinty/wynne education system… a cotton-lined gulag where they are fed socialist propaganda from before their first recess. they are taught that competing & winning is bad, that no one can rise above his peers. meritocracy is a dirty word.
even playing tag has been abolished as it may lead to someone tripping and falling.
abortion is good, anything military is bad.
no wonder these kids are so dumb. unfortunately, they’ll end up being eaten alive by the children of immigrants, the tiger moms who demand excellence from their children.
look at who gets into engineering, law and med schools.
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That interviewer does a great job. I’m still laughing at those stupid dickheads. Betcha everyone of them finished high school and at least a few of them have diplomas or degrees. The mediocrity is indeed the message.
And speaking of dickheads, d’ya suppose Mercer will be doing a “talking to Canadians” skit any time soon?
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
The earliest democracy only let property owners vote.
Time to get back to the roots of democracy methinks.
Women who own should vote too of course.
And at Ryerson University no less! Good grief, what are Ryerson’s entrance requirements? I contend that if we took away all the BS everyone gets a turn, mommy earth, socialist pap and replaced it with mandatory civics class our primary schools would be graduating a lot higher caliber young people than this pack of idiots. I really hope these socialist automatons put more effort into say seeking a medical advise (or spouse) than they do their politicians. The only satisfaction I get out of this is the fact they are so ill prepared when it all goes down the sewer.
Thesse Zombos are too mindfxxed to veven find a polling booth let alone vote in an election
Nope going to have to look elsware for your Lib-zombie -try Brampton.
You expect anything different. Union run schools producing low information voters that can be fleeced.
A few years ago I would have thought this was a set-up and fake, then, I met a high school social studies/history teacher who thought that the “Axle” (???) powers fought Hitler in WWI. So, the fact that someone believes Vancouver is Canada’s capital or that there are 9 provinces does not strike me as odd in the least.
FredR’s hounds obviously caught the scent of blood in the trail. The “effective propaganda campaign” was actually carried out by the media, which, along with unions, conditioned scores of low information voters to recoil in horror at the sound of the name “Harper” or the word “conservative”. Regardless of the effectiveness or ethical stand of “attack ads”, Turdeau’s campaign had no need for that, because the media did the dirty job for him. In these Orwellian times in which we live, I will be keeping a good journal of things that are being said, lest facts be thrown into the memory hole.
He should have done a means test and asked if they watched CBC.
And Trudeau is going to bring in proportional representation. The only PR I want to see is the vote you get by proving that you are a contributing member of society;
-an ability to support yourself
-a property tax receipt
-ownership of a car and a drivers licence
-a PAL permit
and an IQ in the triple digits.
Your ballot is proportional to the number of requirements that you can fulfil, anyone that doesn’t possess at least a sixty percent proportion of these requirements can cast a ballot in the ‘special’ ballot box located in the corner over the round filing cabinet.
As Churchill said:
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
We don’t know if these are LIVs.
He didn’t ask the most important question: “Do you Vote in elections?”
No way in Hell will Justin bring in PR!
The liberals would be in a minority government right now if we’d had it ,and the Liberals know that,as Jean Chretien said,”tell’em what they want to hear,then do whatever you want”.
Rick Mercer made a good living with his “talking to americans” bullshit,so I have to think the producers of this video cherry-picked the idiots from among dozens questioned.
If I’m wrong, our education system is a dismal failure.
“tell’em what they want to hear,then do whatever you want”.
Apparently the new recipe is “Slag the sitting PM and get people to vote against him.”
You could still be correct, though.
Maybe voters wanted to hear and believe that PMSH needed to be turfed.
You’re quite right on this. The Liberals certainly didn’t need to produce and air any attack ads and therefore could be seen as taking the high road. The media did a marvelous job of slagging Stephen Harper and the Conservatives at every opportunity. Vicious, vindictive and, in many instances, completely false attack ads and it didn’t cost the Liberals a dime.
If there is any justice in the world, the media will pay for their treachery in a big way.
GREG.
Would love to have that kind of information, for my investments. Any info is most welcome, in regards to protecting investments from the thieves of the Liberal Party, who hate the 1%ers so much. they will take down the middle class in their quest for destruction
Do you know what we need? Mandatory voting!
Love your sarcasm……………
And womadatory,and homogenized,a bidatory and transitory….. Oh we have that in Quebec and east
I want to retire and move to a country where people are responsible and somewhat intelligent and have a good work ethic because they respect the benefits that their taxes purchase but don’t abuse them.
Anyone have any ideas for a mid fifties white guy? I ask, because I am completely out of f%%king ideas. What a mess the world has become during my lifetime. All the conservative votes I have cast over the years have meant nothing.
Maybe it’s time for me to just start smoking legal pot and milking the system for all it’s worth. The morons in this video can see if they can afford me.
This election changes nothing.
The true power lies in the hands of the 1 percent, the same people that wrote TTIP. With no one out there willing to challenge them, we get screwed no mater who we vote for. As we argue about bobbles,or (right vs left) they run away with all of our money.This whole debt based, fiat monetary system, is a pozi scheme. It’s designed to keep us poor and in a system of forever growing debt, that’s mathematically impossible to pay off.
If you think people of this sort don’t exist in significant numbers because you don’t know many just ask yourself, of all the billions of people in the world, or of all the millions of Canadians, how many do you know? And then, why would you expect to know many of this sort?
I concur Neo, the amount of mis and dis-information that surrounded this election was astounding. I listened to a fair bit of political conversation when it actually arose and was surprised at the ignorance of the voting public. Most didn’t know of finally balancing the books and certainly didn’t realize that Canada has a federal debt(~602 billion) that can be traced back to the time of PET.
I love the people of Toronto! they make a rock look like a genius!
I really should have kicked off with a trigger warning.
My husband and I live half the year in Canada and half the year in the Bahamas. I am looking forward to leaving in the next few weeks. Not having to live in Canada for the next 6 months is now a greater delight. You can retire in the Bahamas, Mexico, any of the Central American countries. Panama is becoming the home of many expats. They will give you citizenship and free healthcare if you have an income of 2,000 or 2500 a month, I forget which. The Bahamas is not as friendly, health care only for children and seniors but only if you are a citizen which costs I think 10,000. Look around. As a friend who now lives in Mexico said to me, “There are lots of nice countries in the world and they are all warmer than Canada.”
Get out the youth vote indeed…
Jesse Watters has nothing on this interviewer, except may be the beach scenes. 😉
Problem is you are probably there
The world is full of shitholes and worse voters
“And then, why would you expect to know many of this sort?”
Indeed. And how many folks do anyone here actually talk to like they do to the folks here, about what they need to talk about here?
(just to stay sane and on the main, to deal with the pain)
I know we here who comment at SDA are a minority.(including the trolls)
But how many people are lurking* who mostly agree with us but do not comment?
(*just reading to know they are not the lunatic fringe because others think as they do?)
>my confession: I was a Lurker who just read my favorite journals/blogs in the early Oughties and was too afraid to comment because I thought that I couldn’t express myself well enough and was afraid of flame wars.
Then in about July 2004 Mark Steyn talked about Little Green Footballs and I started to comment there. Well, as many veteran bloggers here know, LGS was the Flame War epitome of blogs at the time …and I cut my teeth there. Never looked back, and I haven’t visited LGF for many years because Mr. Johnson, whom most commenters including myself thought was onside with the conservative cause, turned 180 degrees on his conservative commenters when the Iraq war seemed to be won by the U.S.
(things aren’t always what they seem)
Well almos,t anyone who is a net contributor to the tax base should be allowed to vote, no public sector employees, no students, no welfare leeches and no inmates should be the rule.
Just need to state here that I have a lot of faith in Kate, Lance, EBD, and Richard in Vancouver who I cannot believe would ever pull a Charles Johnson type reversal. You’re solid folks and I Love You All. LYA*
*My wife writes me little stickup notes because our waking hours are sometimes incongruent and she ends her notes with LYA(love you always) which I joke to her means ‘Love Your Ass’, which ass isn`t what it used to be, …me being 56 and us being married nearly 33years.
Just because we lost does not mean we should be asking for PR. PR is the bigger evil.
First, with PR we would have 108 seats, boo f***king hoo! A Lib NDP coalition. We would not be better off.
Second, you would never have a conservative government unless they won a majority. Good luck with that. In the long run our chances are better with the current system.
Third, PR always leads a situation where party elites are perpetually elected regardless of who wins or loses, and no changes in the party leadership are possible. Everywhere it was tried everywhere it failed.
Fourth PR means that none bothers to represent their own electorate. None is accountable directly to his voters.
Totally agree. A voter should own a stake in the status quo which is affected by taxation instead of being a stake-less beneficiary of taxation benefited by a change in the status quo which is little more than an increase in taxation which does not impact them as tax payers.
As a start, I advocate a user fee to initiate each personal singular individual healthcare inquiry, and if the healthcare concern is ongoing and related to the original specific inquiry then no further fee is required.(additionally, no person who is not a full Canadian citizen should be able to vote or access any Canadian welfare of any kind, including health, housing, or food regardless of their tax responsibilities relating to their beneficiary position of being allowed to work in Canada which, in itself, is a benefit beyond which they had in their home country)
Dear PM Harper,
For reasons unknown, you underestimated the appeal of your opponent and the capacity to ‘do whatever it takes’ on their part to get elected. However, it is time to suck in your pride and consider the future.
For what appears to be a matter of principle, you did not complete the full suite of senate appointments as was allowed prior to the election.
Please do so now and do so with a contingent of people who know and understand what freedom means for Canadians. You have a limited amount of time left so please act accordingly.
Young Trudeau is a threat to the future and safety of Canada. You have a responsibility to do everything you still can to limit the damage he can do.
Perhaps your principle tells you not to do this. Rest assured, your principle is not worth the future of Canada. Set aside whatever ego or arrogance or other personal considerations you have and act for the best interest of the country.
Complete the senate appointments, do it now!
Signed
A Canadian that sees the shitstorm coming….
Can you adopt me and my wife. We’ll clean after ourselves, buy the groceries, and swear at Justinsane once a week.
On a serious note, Belize is supposed to be another nice, warm country, the former British Honduras. Still 8 years from retiring, but, its looking more attractive all the time. By that time, we’ll be ready to go, and leave Canadislamabad behind
Think about what you are saying
Take your pension out of the country, and spend it elsewhere where we get no economic benefit for the people working here. The money you contributed does not cover what you are getting out, its subsidized by me the taxpayer. Support the race to the bottom so we have no more jobs, money, and just debt. The truly me 1st generation, and the reason we are here sick
“Think about what you are saying”
I’m sure Eve has thought long and hard about what she is saying, and doing. I applaud her decision. No sense getting on board the Titanic if your crystal ball is working.
They all know who promised to legalize weed though.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but, if not, maybe Justinsane can BAN Canadians from leaving the country, or maybe they will need travel papers, and a “Checkpoint Charlie” at each provincial crossing point, you know, to prevent those evil westerners that vote CPC from going east, but allowing travel the other way, socialists and muslims must be exported west.
Any other “freedoms” you want to take away, in the name of the Liberals?
Face it, everyone. The Conservatives were totally out-campaigned.
Peter, I have thought about what my husband and I are doing. When the Ontario Liberals brought in the Green Energy Act, we started to look for a place to live. We can not afford to live here over in the winter. The government still gets some HST on electricity and heating oil but our cost is a quarter what it would be if we lived here. I think governments should think about what they are doing. If they want to make heating a home too expensive what do they think will happen? Same thing with Trudeau and his carbon tax. What does he think will happen when it is too expensive to live here? I hope neither the Ontario nor the Canadian government think people will stay here and die. We are helping Ontario by not being here. If we were here we might get sick (certainly in an under heated house), we might get in a car accident on icy roads, one of us might fall walking to the mail box etc. This way we don’t get sick or fall, don’t use Ontario’s health care and if we get sick in the Bahamas, we will pay for it ourselves.
I’ll post these thoughts here because Hoppsing just posted a perfect prompt.
No, the Conservatives were not outcampaigned. They ran a better campaign than the Liberals did. The Liberals ran exactly the same campaign that they lost with the last four times.
The election was determined by the niqab issue, and the Liberals only made that an issue out of absolute desperation (And yes, it most certainly was a Liberal issue.)And it was blind luck that it worked. The Liberals could not have been sure that Mulcair would leap on it first and loudest; they almost certainly did not imagine that it would destroy him as a candidate; and it was only their ironclad control of the media and the close timing of events that let them escape the consequences. Nobody in the wider world knew that Trudeau’s position was as extreme as Mulcair’s; nobody was ever allowed to know. And so once Mulcair had proven the position toxic, the Liberals were able to scramble away before anyone could be the wiser. It certainly showed some discipline and resourcefulness in dealing with an incipient catastrophe, but a competent campaign doesn’t walk into such catastrophes, still less create them out of desperation.
The Conservative vote dropped by less than a quarter million. As reversals in fortune go, that was trivial. As a sign of bad campaigning, it’s meaningless. The best campaign in the world could lose that many votes to a snowstorm.
Mulcair’s self-immolation turned it into a two-way race, and it could have been no more than a desperate hope when the Liberals decided to go for broke. And it turned out that you could motivate enough drool voters to turn up if you push the TV ads hard enough, but no one could have foreseen that; the last decade’s experience taught the exact opposite. It was bad campaigning, but good luck made up for it.
You know, a football game is a contest in which two teams play football, and you find out from the result which team plays it better. It’s easy to imagine that an election is a contest between two campaigns, and the result tells you which campaigns better. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what’s going on.
I see two ways of accounting for what happened; they don’t actually conflict. One is that it was blind luck on the part of the Liberals. The other involves looking at Stephen Harper’s career. First as Opposition Leader, then as Prime Minister, he has presided over a full decade in which parliamentary democracy, which was ended in the time of Mackenzie King and repudiated by the Charter, was effectively substantially restored. The Liberal campaign slogan “Real Change” was not meaningless. Voters had a clear choice; the election was effectively a referendum on parliamentary democracy, and it produced a clear no.
We now move to the next stage in Canada’s repudiation of that concept. Under Mackenzie King, Crown and Parliament became purely ceremonial and we were governed by Cabinet, a committee chosen from elected nominees. Under Pierre Trudeau, the Cabinet became purely ceremonial and we were governed by a presidential PM with such private advisory committee as suited him. Now the office of Prime minister is made purely ceremonial, and we are to be governed by an entirely private and secret committee of which we know basically nothing, and of which Justin Trudeau is not a member. He’s just an actor there to play leader on TV. And we all agree that, as long as his ratings hold, the secret committee will make the laws and run the country and we think about something else.
The niqab issue was central to the campaign, but the election was determined by the immigrant invasion on Europe. The public suddenly realized just how frightening the real world actually was, and recoiled in terror. Given a choice between a real prime minister and a fake one, they chose the fake as a matter of protection. Somebody else can handle the real world, we’ll watch TV, it’s safer.
You gotta be kidding!!!!!!
Or they could be the cover for massive voter fraud.
How do we check?
It seems likely that the LIV carried the election for the liberals in the East, but they are LIV, so how could they vote consistently for anything?
Just as many thought Harper was a Liberal, this tends to undermine the concept that LIV carried the day.
So who did the counting?
The same people who allowed masked persons to vote.My confidence is throughly strengthened …Not.
Vote early vote often.
Also I am real curious about the 8 million voters who did not.Who are they?
The Gone Galt Division?
Kids, in other words.
This is gotta be a setup. I know many, many liv and none are quite this stupid.
Assuming these idiots are for real, how can they possibly cast a responsible ballot? Toss a coin? First name on the ballot? Nicest hair?
Oh, I don’t know. Just before the election I had one young, doe-eyed cashier at Canadian Tire tell me that she HAD to get out to vote and keep Stephen Harper out of office, ’cause he’s like a sociopath, don’t you know?
Now THAT result is the true mark of an effective propoganda campaign!
I work for an accounting firm. We issued a newsletter to all our high net worth clients yesterday letting them know how much the increased taxes and new dividend treatments are going to cost them. We also let them know we developed a new strategy to save all that and more. Suck it Trudeau
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“fredr says… one young, doe-eyed cashier at Canadian Tire tell me that she HAD to get out to vote and keep Stephen Harper out of office, ’cause he’s like a sociopath…”
these kids are, in ontario anyway, the product of the mcguinty/wynne education system… a cotton-lined gulag where they are fed socialist propaganda from before their first recess. they are taught that competing & winning is bad, that no one can rise above his peers. meritocracy is a dirty word.
even playing tag has been abolished as it may lead to someone tripping and falling.
abortion is good, anything military is bad.
no wonder these kids are so dumb. unfortunately, they’ll end up being eaten alive by the children of immigrants, the tiger moms who demand excellence from their children.
look at who gets into engineering, law and med schools.
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That interviewer does a great job. I’m still laughing at those stupid dickheads. Betcha everyone of them finished high school and at least a few of them have diplomas or degrees. The mediocrity is indeed the message.
And speaking of dickheads, d’ya suppose Mercer will be doing a “talking to Canadians” skit any time soon?
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
The earliest democracy only let property owners vote.
Time to get back to the roots of democracy methinks.
Women who own should vote too of course.
And at Ryerson University no less! Good grief, what are Ryerson’s entrance requirements? I contend that if we took away all the BS everyone gets a turn, mommy earth, socialist pap and replaced it with mandatory civics class our primary schools would be graduating a lot higher caliber young people than this pack of idiots. I really hope these socialist automatons put more effort into say seeking a medical advise (or spouse) than they do their politicians. The only satisfaction I get out of this is the fact they are so ill prepared when it all goes down the sewer.
Thesse Zombos are too mindfxxed to veven find a polling booth let alone vote in an election
Nope going to have to look elsware for your Lib-zombie -try Brampton.
You expect anything different. Union run schools producing low information voters that can be fleeced.
A few years ago I would have thought this was a set-up and fake, then, I met a high school social studies/history teacher who thought that the “Axle” (???) powers fought Hitler in WWI. So, the fact that someone believes Vancouver is Canada’s capital or that there are 9 provinces does not strike me as odd in the least.
FredR’s hounds obviously caught the scent of blood in the trail. The “effective propaganda campaign” was actually carried out by the media, which, along with unions, conditioned scores of low information voters to recoil in horror at the sound of the name “Harper” or the word “conservative”. Regardless of the effectiveness or ethical stand of “attack ads”, Turdeau’s campaign had no need for that, because the media did the dirty job for him. In these Orwellian times in which we live, I will be keeping a good journal of things that are being said, lest facts be thrown into the memory hole.
He should have done a means test and asked if they watched CBC.
And Trudeau is going to bring in proportional representation. The only PR I want to see is the vote you get by proving that you are a contributing member of society;
-an ability to support yourself
-a property tax receipt
-ownership of a car and a drivers licence
-a PAL permit
and an IQ in the triple digits.
Your ballot is proportional to the number of requirements that you can fulfil, anyone that doesn’t possess at least a sixty percent proportion of these requirements can cast a ballot in the ‘special’ ballot box located in the corner over the round filing cabinet.
As Churchill said:
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
We don’t know if these are LIVs.
He didn’t ask the most important question: “Do you Vote in elections?”
No way in Hell will Justin bring in PR!
The liberals would be in a minority government right now if we’d had it ,and the Liberals know that,as Jean Chretien said,”tell’em what they want to hear,then do whatever you want”.
Rick Mercer made a good living with his “talking to americans” bullshit,so I have to think the producers of this video cherry-picked the idiots from among dozens questioned.
If I’m wrong, our education system is a dismal failure.
“tell’em what they want to hear,then do whatever you want”.
Apparently the new recipe is “Slag the sitting PM and get people to vote against him.”
You could still be correct, though.
Maybe voters wanted to hear and believe that PMSH needed to be turfed.
You’re quite right on this. The Liberals certainly didn’t need to produce and air any attack ads and therefore could be seen as taking the high road. The media did a marvelous job of slagging Stephen Harper and the Conservatives at every opportunity. Vicious, vindictive and, in many instances, completely false attack ads and it didn’t cost the Liberals a dime.
If there is any justice in the world, the media will pay for their treachery in a big way.
GREG.
Would love to have that kind of information, for my investments. Any info is most welcome, in regards to protecting investments from the thieves of the Liberal Party, who hate the 1%ers so much. they will take down the middle class in their quest for destruction
Do you know what we need? Mandatory voting!
Love your sarcasm……………
And womadatory,and homogenized,a bidatory and transitory….. Oh we have that in Quebec and east
I want to retire and move to a country where people are responsible and somewhat intelligent and have a good work ethic because they respect the benefits that their taxes purchase but don’t abuse them.
Anyone have any ideas for a mid fifties white guy? I ask, because I am completely out of f%%king ideas. What a mess the world has become during my lifetime. All the conservative votes I have cast over the years have meant nothing.
Maybe it’s time for me to just start smoking legal pot and milking the system for all it’s worth. The morons in this video can see if they can afford me.
This election changes nothing.
The true power lies in the hands of the 1 percent, the same people that wrote TTIP. With no one out there willing to challenge them, we get screwed no mater who we vote for. As we argue about bobbles,or (right vs left) they run away with all of our money.This whole debt based, fiat monetary system, is a pozi scheme. It’s designed to keep us poor and in a system of forever growing debt, that’s mathematically impossible to pay off.
If you think people of this sort don’t exist in significant numbers because you don’t know many just ask yourself, of all the billions of people in the world, or of all the millions of Canadians, how many do you know? And then, why would you expect to know many of this sort?
I concur Neo, the amount of mis and dis-information that surrounded this election was astounding. I listened to a fair bit of political conversation when it actually arose and was surprised at the ignorance of the voting public. Most didn’t know of finally balancing the books and certainly didn’t realize that Canada has a federal debt(~602 billion) that can be traced back to the time of PET.
I love the people of Toronto! they make a rock look like a genius!
I really should have kicked off with a trigger warning.
My husband and I live half the year in Canada and half the year in the Bahamas. I am looking forward to leaving in the next few weeks. Not having to live in Canada for the next 6 months is now a greater delight. You can retire in the Bahamas, Mexico, any of the Central American countries. Panama is becoming the home of many expats. They will give you citizenship and free healthcare if you have an income of 2,000 or 2500 a month, I forget which. The Bahamas is not as friendly, health care only for children and seniors but only if you are a citizen which costs I think 10,000. Look around. As a friend who now lives in Mexico said to me, “There are lots of nice countries in the world and they are all warmer than Canada.”
Get out the youth vote indeed…
Jesse Watters has nothing on this interviewer, except may be the beach scenes. 😉
Problem is you are probably there
The world is full of shitholes and worse voters
“And then, why would you expect to know many of this sort?”
Indeed. And how many folks do anyone here actually talk to like they do to the folks here, about what they need to talk about here?
(just to stay sane and on the main, to deal with the pain)
I know we here who comment at SDA are a minority.(including the trolls)
But how many people are lurking* who mostly agree with us but do not comment?
(*just reading to know they are not the lunatic fringe because others think as they do?)
>my confession: I was a Lurker who just read my favorite journals/blogs in the early Oughties and was too afraid to comment because I thought that I couldn’t express myself well enough and was afraid of flame wars.
Then in about July 2004 Mark Steyn talked about Little Green Footballs and I started to comment there. Well, as many veteran bloggers here know, LGS was the Flame War epitome of blogs at the time …and I cut my teeth there. Never looked back, and I haven’t visited LGF for many years because Mr. Johnson, whom most commenters including myself thought was onside with the conservative cause, turned 180 degrees on his conservative commenters when the Iraq war seemed to be won by the U.S.
(things aren’t always what they seem)
Well almos,t anyone who is a net contributor to the tax base should be allowed to vote, no public sector employees, no students, no welfare leeches and no inmates should be the rule.
Just need to state here that I have a lot of faith in Kate, Lance, EBD, and Richard in Vancouver who I cannot believe would ever pull a Charles Johnson type reversal. You’re solid folks and I Love You All. LYA*
*My wife writes me little stickup notes because our waking hours are sometimes incongruent and she ends her notes with LYA(love you always) which I joke to her means ‘Love Your Ass’, which ass isn`t what it used to be, …me being 56 and us being married nearly 33years.
Just because we lost does not mean we should be asking for PR. PR is the bigger evil.
First, with PR we would have 108 seats, boo f***king hoo! A Lib NDP coalition. We would not be better off.
Second, you would never have a conservative government unless they won a majority. Good luck with that. In the long run our chances are better with the current system.
Third, PR always leads a situation where party elites are perpetually elected regardless of who wins or loses, and no changes in the party leadership are possible. Everywhere it was tried everywhere it failed.
Fourth PR means that none bothers to represent their own electorate. None is accountable directly to his voters.
Totally agree. A voter should own a stake in the status quo which is affected by taxation instead of being a stake-less beneficiary of taxation benefited by a change in the status quo which is little more than an increase in taxation which does not impact them as tax payers.
As a start, I advocate a user fee to initiate each personal singular individual healthcare inquiry, and if the healthcare concern is ongoing and related to the original specific inquiry then no further fee is required.(additionally, no person who is not a full Canadian citizen should be able to vote or access any Canadian welfare of any kind, including health, housing, or food regardless of their tax responsibilities relating to their beneficiary position of being allowed to work in Canada which, in itself, is a benefit beyond which they had in their home country)
Dear PM Harper,
For reasons unknown, you underestimated the appeal of your opponent and the capacity to ‘do whatever it takes’ on their part to get elected. However, it is time to suck in your pride and consider the future.
For what appears to be a matter of principle, you did not complete the full suite of senate appointments as was allowed prior to the election.
Please do so now and do so with a contingent of people who know and understand what freedom means for Canadians. You have a limited amount of time left so please act accordingly.
Young Trudeau is a threat to the future and safety of Canada. You have a responsibility to do everything you still can to limit the damage he can do.
Perhaps your principle tells you not to do this. Rest assured, your principle is not worth the future of Canada. Set aside whatever ego or arrogance or other personal considerations you have and act for the best interest of the country.
Complete the senate appointments, do it now!
Signed
A Canadian that sees the shitstorm coming….
Can you adopt me and my wife. We’ll clean after ourselves, buy the groceries, and swear at Justinsane once a week.
On a serious note, Belize is supposed to be another nice, warm country, the former British Honduras. Still 8 years from retiring, but, its looking more attractive all the time. By that time, we’ll be ready to go, and leave Canadislamabad behind
Think about what you are saying
Take your pension out of the country, and spend it elsewhere where we get no economic benefit for the people working here. The money you contributed does not cover what you are getting out, its subsidized by me the taxpayer. Support the race to the bottom so we have no more jobs, money, and just debt. The truly me 1st generation, and the reason we are here sick
“Think about what you are saying”
I’m sure Eve has thought long and hard about what she is saying, and doing. I applaud her decision. No sense getting on board the Titanic if your crystal ball is working.
They all know who promised to legalize weed though.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but, if not, maybe Justinsane can BAN Canadians from leaving the country, or maybe they will need travel papers, and a “Checkpoint Charlie” at each provincial crossing point, you know, to prevent those evil westerners that vote CPC from going east, but allowing travel the other way, socialists and muslims must be exported west.
Any other “freedoms” you want to take away, in the name of the Liberals?
Face it, everyone. The Conservatives were totally out-campaigned.
Peter, I have thought about what my husband and I are doing. When the Ontario Liberals brought in the Green Energy Act, we started to look for a place to live. We can not afford to live here over in the winter. The government still gets some HST on electricity and heating oil but our cost is a quarter what it would be if we lived here. I think governments should think about what they are doing. If they want to make heating a home too expensive what do they think will happen? Same thing with Trudeau and his carbon tax. What does he think will happen when it is too expensive to live here? I hope neither the Ontario nor the Canadian government think people will stay here and die. We are helping Ontario by not being here. If we were here we might get sick (certainly in an under heated house), we might get in a car accident on icy roads, one of us might fall walking to the mail box etc. This way we don’t get sick or fall, don’t use Ontario’s health care and if we get sick in the Bahamas, we will pay for it ourselves.
I’ll post these thoughts here because Hoppsing just posted a perfect prompt.
No, the Conservatives were not outcampaigned. They ran a better campaign than the Liberals did. The Liberals ran exactly the same campaign that they lost with the last four times.
The election was determined by the niqab issue, and the Liberals only made that an issue out of absolute desperation (And yes, it most certainly was a Liberal issue.)And it was blind luck that it worked. The Liberals could not have been sure that Mulcair would leap on it first and loudest; they almost certainly did not imagine that it would destroy him as a candidate; and it was only their ironclad control of the media and the close timing of events that let them escape the consequences. Nobody in the wider world knew that Trudeau’s position was as extreme as Mulcair’s; nobody was ever allowed to know. And so once Mulcair had proven the position toxic, the Liberals were able to scramble away before anyone could be the wiser. It certainly showed some discipline and resourcefulness in dealing with an incipient catastrophe, but a competent campaign doesn’t walk into such catastrophes, still less create them out of desperation.
The Conservative vote dropped by less than a quarter million. As reversals in fortune go, that was trivial. As a sign of bad campaigning, it’s meaningless. The best campaign in the world could lose that many votes to a snowstorm.
Mulcair’s self-immolation turned it into a two-way race, and it could have been no more than a desperate hope when the Liberals decided to go for broke. And it turned out that you could motivate enough drool voters to turn up if you push the TV ads hard enough, but no one could have foreseen that; the last decade’s experience taught the exact opposite. It was bad campaigning, but good luck made up for it.
You know, a football game is a contest in which two teams play football, and you find out from the result which team plays it better. It’s easy to imagine that an election is a contest between two campaigns, and the result tells you which campaigns better. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what’s going on.
I see two ways of accounting for what happened; they don’t actually conflict. One is that it was blind luck on the part of the Liberals. The other involves looking at Stephen Harper’s career. First as Opposition Leader, then as Prime Minister, he has presided over a full decade in which parliamentary democracy, which was ended in the time of Mackenzie King and repudiated by the Charter, was effectively substantially restored. The Liberal campaign slogan “Real Change” was not meaningless. Voters had a clear choice; the election was effectively a referendum on parliamentary democracy, and it produced a clear no.
We now move to the next stage in Canada’s repudiation of that concept. Under Mackenzie King, Crown and Parliament became purely ceremonial and we were governed by Cabinet, a committee chosen from elected nominees. Under Pierre Trudeau, the Cabinet became purely ceremonial and we were governed by a presidential PM with such private advisory committee as suited him. Now the office of Prime minister is made purely ceremonial, and we are to be governed by an entirely private and secret committee of which we know basically nothing, and of which Justin Trudeau is not a member. He’s just an actor there to play leader on TV. And we all agree that, as long as his ratings hold, the secret committee will make the laws and run the country and we think about something else.
The niqab issue was central to the campaign, but the election was determined by the immigrant invasion on Europe. The public suddenly realized just how frightening the real world actually was, and recoiled in terror. Given a choice between a real prime minister and a fake one, they chose the fake as a matter of protection. Somebody else can handle the real world, we’ll watch TV, it’s safer.