50 Replies to “An anniversary I’d rather not mark”

  1. Signed it. There will be nothing done about this, they will sweep this and all related charges under the rug.

  3. Sorry to be off topic but I wanted everyone to see this,
    Amazon.com bans Confederate flag sales as ‘offensive’ but happily sells slave bondage simulated rape contraptions depicting women being tortured and physically abused (WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC)
    http://www.naturalnews.com/050186_Amazoncom_Confederate_Flag_physical_abuse_of_women.html
    If you think selling stuff to debase women is fine but a historic flag is offensive…you might be a liberal…

  5. Signe the petition but those rubberbooted thugs will not be held responsible for their abuses, they never are and never will.

  6. What is your problem with consenting adults doing whatever they want in the privacy of their bedrooms? BTW you do realize that those devices fit males as well… well most of them anyway.

  7. Signed. The Royal Canuckistan Marxism Protectors (RCMP) will never be made to pay for this, and yes, it was the DannyGirl’s traders riding.

  11. I understood your point and it was very very stoopid. They are no more selling “stuff to debase women” than gun store owners are selling stuff to commit murder.
    As for the flag I could not care less except that it pisses off the left so I would keep it juts for that.

  12. I don’t know about the rest of you whitetail hunters but after 30 some years of this political abuse and scape goating , lots of people had enough – they’ve obeyed the last gun law they’re ever likely to.
    Folks will NEVER allow a warrantless police B&E in their home like High River and Slave lake again – the Dudleys will never see easy pickins like that again.

  13. Ya, sign the petition and wait for the mounties to show up at your door to make sure you are ‘storing’ your firearms properly … or some excuse to get into your house and make your life a living hell. Maybe shoot your dog.

  16. Being chased around during the G20 in Toronto after the cops purposefully let their cruisers burn, the gun registry , Caledonia and Hay River means I’ll never trust nor cooperate with cops again, ever.
    They’ve jumped the sharks and we’re dead as a modern liberal democracy.

  17. Heard a rumour the Albertan flag is being updated. The wheat is to be replaced with bananas and oranges.

  18. I am so tired of hearing this story!! And in the end, they did get their guns back and voted Wildrose. !!
    Come now Colonialista–we need more rubber boot philosophy! Or were they jack boots?
    You gotta be a sheep farmer! I won’t go any further!

  20. Yes. But they didn’t get hundreds of thousands of rounds of confiscated expensive ammunition back.
    (theft)
    They also didn’t get justice, and there is nothing better than justice that a government can give it’s people, or then why should a people consent to be governed at all rather than revolt against a tyranny; because without justice, government is tyranny?

  22. From what I was able to find out–there were security issues as to why these weapons (ammo etc.) were confiscated. The flood enhanced the problem by providing an opportunity for looters. We may never know the full story, but I do believe in the RCMP and I trust that they had a good reason to go in there. And they may not have had a choice in the matter! They still are one of the best police forces in the world.

  23. They did not get all of their guns back. A lot of people were “convinced” to turn their guns in for deactivation. Lots of the guns were purposefully damaged, expensive optics scratched and so on. All part of demonstration of power.
    The state is not entitled to take my property for as long as some apparatchik desires it and return it when they feel like returning it.
    Moreover, as pointed above, the ammo was destroyed with no compensation.

  24. “From what I was able to find out–there were security issues as to why these weapons (ammo etc.) were confiscated. ”
    No there weren’t any security issues, the cops cherry picked homes of gun owners and looted them. They left them wide open thus actually creating the security threat.
    “The flood enhanced the problem by providing an opportunity for looters.”
    There was no looting. Breaking into peoples’ houses and leaving them wide open created opportunity for looters.
    “We may never know the full story,”
    Why? I thought you trusted the full story provided to you by the goons.
    “but I do believe in the RCMP and I trust that they had a good reason to go in there. ”
    You’re either an idiot and a lemming or a plant.
    “And they may not have had a choice in the matter!”
    Jawohl, herr kommandant
    “They still are one of the best police forces in the world.”
    Sigh.

  25. “…why these weapons (ammo etc.) were confiscated. ”
    “Weapons.” Right, you know, to a gun owner these are “firearms” or “guns”, these are primarily “weapons” only to a liberal who hates them in the first place. Now FOAD troll.

  26. Colonialista:
    I’ve read many of your postings, and that is why I remain anonymous. You’re either a gun nut, a cop hater or all of the above. It’s people like you that will (in the near future) make owning an sporting arms virtually impossible.

  27. Colonialista:
    PS: And if wasn’t for people like you, they most likely wouldn’t have an NDP government in Alberta.
    The end.

  28. Yes, I am a gun nut and I dislike cops. All my guns are legally owned, acquired and stored according to all the absurd regulations. I jumped through every hoop the state demanded from me in order to issue me the possession and acquisition license and the authorization to transport. I am a registered member of gun a club. As for disliking cops the laws are pretty clear abut it. Ontario courts have recently ruled that “contempt of cop is not a crime”, look it up. I also have a clean criminal record and have never been charged with more than a minor traffic ticket. How will that make owning firearms impossible? How did that gave them an NDP government?

  29. “The flood enhanced the problem by providing an opportunity for looters. We may never know the full story”
    Damn straight we’ll never know the full story, because the government is stonewalling.
    For instance, the number of looters that were arrested in High river was ZERO.
    Opportunity? It was an opportunity for the RCMP to BE the LOOTERS.
    They sure pre-empted those pesky looters, eh?
    Do you know what the difference between the RCMP looting some of your very expensive and hard to get possessions and an unaffiliated looter breaking in and stealing it is to the victim?
    N.O.T.H.I.N.G!
    “And they may not have had a choice in the matter!”
    They are free Canadians and they didn’t have a choice? What would happen to them?
    Were they going to be shot? If they were given an immoral order, they have the right to refuse to carry it out.
    What if they were given the order to shoot you in the face?
    Such an order would only be a difference in degree, not in kind.
    Both are immoral orders to issue and to carry out.
    “They still are one of the best police forces in the world.”
    IF the RCMP are composed of thieving thugs who would carry out such an order, the only difference between them and criminals is their badge of authority, *then IF so, I and Colonialista have not just a right but a duty as born free citizens to be cop resisters and lay out the truth in these matters.
    *IF, conditional

  30. Anonymous >
    It’s easy to look at the law abiding citizens that were victimized by Alberta’s government and the RCMP, and say “poor them”, yet by extension ALL Albertan’s lost as did ALL Canadians.
    Today High River, tomorrow it could be YOU.
    If you think your above the so called “Gun nuts with their weapons” you can rest assured that those “nuts” have all had the mental and criminal background checks, including daily RCMP database scanning. Would you pass that same scrutiny? They do.
    Hope so, because one day it may very well be you that someone in charge takes a political disliking too. They’ll make you jump through hoops to prove yourself an exemplary citizen. At that time you can thank yourself for laying the groundwork for your own repression.

  31. Any dunce who tosses epithets like “gun nut” around as if they have any true meaning pertinent to social realities is part of the problem.
    You realize that legitimate hunters and sports shooters have been brutalized. abused and repressed with this belligerent policing for over 20 years because of this fallacy of “gun nuts”?
    You people are sick.

  32. “You people are sick” sums it up well. Unless he is a part of the mindset that supports police increasingly becoming a politicized oppressor, he will wake up when the alligator comes for him.

  33. The entire “it was all about safety” excuse collapses under the most cursory scrutiny. This was nothing but another example of the RCMP trying to support and justify that part of its bureaucratic empire that is built upon, and sustained by, anti-firearms propaganda.

  34. Anonymous
    Anybody starting out with: “from what I was able to find out….” Did NOT attend the sept meeting at Highwood Highschool and would be surprised to find out you actually spoke with a High Riverite who had either their door smashed, guns confiscated, and upstairs searched: or all.
    I would be happy to chat with you, as a High Riverite whose door was smashed for no other reason…..no trailing of glass into the house, no muddy footprints on main level or upstairs. Why? Because we had no registered guns in the home. My neighbours, not so ‘lucky’.
    You seem to be the person who got his/her information from news outlets who don’t care about the illegal actions of the RCMP during and after the flood. Just because it did not affect you personally does not mean it’s appropriate or legal. And yes, in the future you may be the beneficiary of RCMP illegal actions you deem appropriate in High River. As a Canadian citizen the laws are there to, also, protect me from the state.
    When you know that heat imaging was used to find those left behind, when you know friends whose guns were confiscated from the lock boxes hidden in bedrooms in closets, or houses with doors left gaping and guns not taken…….how dear Anonymous can you tell me…..”From what I know….” and have a clear conscience. You have become a pawn in the spin cycle of the RCMP. For shame.

  35. “Ya, sign the petition and wait for the mounties to show up at your door to make sure you are ‘storing’ your firearms properly … or some excuse to get into your house and make your life a living hell. Maybe shoot your dog.”
    YEAH PRECISELY MINE OWN SENTIMENT.
    I speak from experience. Being a suspicious man (for good reason)…I never revealed anything of any consequence about my firearms (even to my spouse). Then two bigands arrived one evening, conducted an armed home invasion with a more or less accurate inventory…..
    The “Long Gun Registry” was scrapped with provisions that the data be destroyed, however CFO’s openly defied an ACT OF PARLIAMENT and refused to destroy the data. High River looks awfully suspicious that illegally retained data was used to target these RCMP LOOTINGS.

  36. Whatever happened to a good old fashioned BJ???
    Okay I am pissed… Fathers Day went by and…. nada.

  37. There is no doubt that all major police forces in North america have engaged in illegal searches and seizures from time to time. However as a rule what makes them illegal are technicalities. (Ie: Crown Attorney: ”Officer, did you present the home owner with the search warrant, or did his wife accept the document.” Officer: ”Opps-sorry, I thought she was the home owner.”)
    I do not believe this was the case in High River. There were security concerns, the RCMP did what they thought was best for the safety of the public (as they do in 99% of their operations) and that is what I know. I trust the RCMP!!

  38. >”However as a rule what makes them illegal are technicalities. (Ie: Crown Attorney: ”Officer, did you present the home owner with the search warrant, or did his wife accept the document.” Officer: ”Opps-sorry, I thought she was the home owner.”)
    Bullshit. There was no search warrant in the first place and we still do no know who ordered the action or who authorized it.
    You’re just fogging the issue with fabricated “what-ifs” that you’ve pulled straight out of your ass.
    After the security concern(which there is ZERO evidence of) was passed there still is the issue of the RCMP destroying hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition which were the private property of High River citizens and the initial refusal of the RCMP to return the confiscated legally owned firearms which were the private property of owners.
    It’s vandalism and theft on the part of the RCMP and no warrants were ever presented after the incident or we’d know the name of the judge who issued them and on what exact pretext they had been issued.

  39. If the area was declared a disaster zone, police and other officials can enter any property without a warrant. The idea behind that being to allow cops etc. look for stragglers!

  40. They weren’t entering any property, they were entering properties of gun owners and ignoring other properties. They were coming back to the same houses, on some occasion doing it three times or more, with the explicit purpose of looting the firearms and ammo. And they knew the houses were empty from heat imaging before they entered them in the first place. And if there was any doubt (somehow the doubt was gun owner specific, funny that, hugh?) as to accuracy of heat imaging they knew the houses were empty after they broken into them for the first time.

  41. “I trust the RCMP!!”
    Good boy, make sure the jackboot is licked sparkling clean.
    Are you honestly that naive? You trust them? Ugh, so did you trust them when they first told you that they broken into houses of gun owners because the firearms are expensive and they were making sure the expensive property of owners who they cared about soooo much about was protected (unlike jewelry or electronics or or art, oh my they sure must love the ungrateful gun owners). Or did did you started trusting them when they changed the story and fell back on the alleged “security concerns”? What security concerns? Pray tell, do you know how many looters they arrested? ZERO! Can you point out to a single example of a house looted by someone other than cops? And tell me what public they were protecting? The few owners who refused to leave their houses and were repeatedly harassed to leave, or the owners who left and who tried to comeback only to see road spikes on the road and be threatened with arrest if they go back.

  42. Anonymous >
    “….the RCMP did what they thought was best for the safety of the public”
    So what you are saying then is that you believe the RCMP should be brought up on charges of Racism and Human Rights abuses?
    The fact is that they completely ignored the neighboring Siksika Indian Reserve that was hard hit by the floods with nearly a firearm in every home.
    Do the people of the Siksika Nation not deserve the “Public Safety” you claim the RCMP only provided the mainly white communities? That’s Racism!
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/then-and-now-a-year-after-the-alberta-flood-how-are-residents-coping/article19217222/
    Why aren’t you lobbying to have the RCMP investigated for abandoning the Sikiska people to looters, loose firearms, and other safety concerns?

  43. A message to Oz, Anonymous, and other legal experts who posted on this site.
    The reason no charges have been brought forth in this matter is because the Mounties never broke the law. And even if they did, if it was in the interest of public safety, so be it!

  44. “The reason no charges have been brought forth in this matter is because the Mounties never broke the law.”
    Charges? Feck you!
    I know you’re a Cop and if the LAW allows this kind of immorality to be perpetrated on citizens under the Color Of Authority, then you and the horse you rode in on need to go down.
    Just because you Bastids CAN do something doesn’t mean you should.
    You have lost your way. There aren’t enough COPS in the world to tyrannize people who refuse their CONSENT to be ruled by thugs like you and make no mistake, citizens keep the law because they consent to be ruled and because they think it’s right and fair.
    Remove the fair and right, and YOU COPS are in DEEP KIMSHI.
    Above you mentioned technicalities, but A-holes like you better understand that the issue is OUR LIVES and OUR PROPRETY which we spend our lives working for while POS like you live off of our taxed labour like PARASITES.
    Reasonable people would think that would be enough, without you ROBBING US of our property.
    “I am so tired of hearing this story!!”
    Yeah. You’re so damn tired that you’ve been arguing a losing position for 3 DAYS.

  45. ”I know you’re a cop!!”
    You sound like my cousin Hank who was hospitalized for schizophrenia. In the middle of the night, he heard trains. One slight problem. His farm was seven miles from the nearest RR track. . In the morning, he’d phone the CPR station and start screaming at the station master because ”those damned trains” had kept him awake all night!!”
    He was hospitalized in a psyche ward, but sadly there were no drugs for that condition at the time. He later died of a farm accident.
    Listen to me Oz! In the middle of the night, if you hear sirens, please don’t start shooting.
    It isn’t me!! It’s most likely the fan bearings on your AC that need oiling.

  46. “In the middle of the night, he heard trains. One slight problem. His farm was seven miles from the nearest RR track.”
    So you’re a cop and an idiot. Trains can be heard 10 miles away.
    There aren’t any psyche wards anywhere anymore. They were done away with 25 years ago.
    “but I do believe in the RCMP and I trust that they had a good reason to go in there. And they may not have had a choice in the matter!
    There’s the giveaway right there. Of course cops have a choice.
    It’s just that you cops will do any evil thing instead of losing your place at the taxpayer trough.
    If God, by His word, made half of the cops honest tonight, ..they’d arrest the other half tomorrow.
    Are you getting tired yet? I didn’t think you were honest in your first post. 99% of a cop’s job is lying.

  47. Uhh-hello Oz. In rural Saskatchewan, trains ran once or twice a week. Cousin Hank heard trains year round. I lived 6 miles from the CPR tracks near Moose Jaw, Sk. I heard the horn once or twice a year. Here’s the address of the psyche ward at the Union Hospital in Moose Jaw. It’s now called the Mental Health and Addictions Unit. Gotta go–gotta feed the horses!! And this is my last comment!!
    Yours truly,
    Sgt. Steele. NWMP
    http://www.fhhr.ca/MooseJawHospital.htm

  48. “The reason no charges have been brought forth in this matter is because the Mounties never broke the law. And even if they did, if it was in the interest of public safety, so be it!”
    Talk about cognitive dissonance.
    And you’re sending others to seek mental help? You? Seriously? Ok then. It isn’t all that surprising that you know where to find your local mental health center.
    May the stupid stay strong with you.

  49. “Steele, however, disliked greatly what he was ordered to do by the British, which included burning towns and moving the populace to concentration camps.”
    Yeah, that was Sgt. Sam Steele of the NWMP during the 2nd Boer War.
    60,000 Boers,(Afrikaners, Trekkers, Voor Trekkers) mostly women and children, perished in those concentration camps through the most appalling privation.
    But Sgt. Sam Steele of the NWMP ‘disliked’ his duty and still did it.
    Hitler copied what the British and Canadians did there.
    I can see why you have defended what the RCMP did in High River.
    Nice role model/

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