It appears there’s a lot more going on at New York University, Columbia, Cornell and Syracuse than just studying. In a recent article it was revealed that more than a few female students are turning to other sources of income than traditional student jobs like waitressing:
Alex Cranshaw, 22, who graduated from NYU last year, said three of his female classmates had sugar daddies — including a woman whose benefactor financed a whole semester in Madrid. “He funded her tuition, paid for her housing, gave her spending money and paid for her airfare,” Cranshaw said. “She told her parents she got a scholarship. They had no idea.”
These young girls grew up in an environment of supercharged entitlement, told never to judge, and the s-word, “shame”, scrubbed from their lexicon. Why is anyone surprised they turned out this way?
Heh. The University of Central Florida even made the top 5:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20599828/4-michigan-universities-on-list-of-fastest-growing-sugar-baby-schools
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What more could you expect from a country run by the “Whore-in Chief”, lazy, do nothing.The man is a disgrace.
Let me guess, journalism majors?
What a bunch of FLUKES!
an environment of supercharged entitlement, told never to judge,
That’s a non-sequitor. These girls earned their money.
I’d much rather have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother in the NDP. At least she can say she put in an honest day’s work.
It’s “non-sequitur”. And it’s not. The point is they feel entitled to these things and will do just about anything to get them. Stretch that brain, las.
I’m shocked, just shocked that men with the financial means have come to an agreement with attractive younger women to partner with them (even on a temporary basis). Never in the history of mankind has this behavior been seen before (OK Berlusconi excepted).
Given that shows like the “Kardashians” and “Jersey Shore” make up much of Prime time American TV, is it any wonder that no one understands the concept of shame any longer.
Kardashian – fat-assed, no talent to speak of, bimbo, who made a sex tape and is known for preferring African American men. currently worth millions due to her willingness to perform on Camera, or flaunt her fat butt (I think she’s gross personally)
Jersey Shore – odd assortment of Guido’s with orange skin and spiked hair who make it appear all folks of Italian Lineage are semi-literate dipsticks who spend all day admiring their own abs.
why is it a stretch to think young women see nothing wrong with whoring themselves out to a dirty rich guy for money.
Colour me not surprised.
An attractive woman without very much talent, what is she to do? Some will tough it out, some will take the easier route.
It can be very difficult for students on some American campuses. I remember a friend at Penn State taking a student out to a simple lunch, a prize in a competition, and the student, expressing his gratitude, mentioned that he hadn’t eaten in two days. Even McJobs were hard to get in that area.
The student was very square – heading for law enforcement, BTW. On the other hand I once saw a student put $1700 on her student ID card.
Based on what happened in Quebec, I guess it’s better to have students banging horny, rich guys than banging pots and demanding free education from taxpayers.
Besides, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume most students are probably going to have sex during their college years so is this any worse than random hook-ups? The older guys are probably less of a health and safety risk. Trading sx for money and gifts is not anything new or a particularly strong sign of the downfall of western civilization.
If they’re willing to whore themselves out to pay for university, is it a stretch to think they’ll whore themselves out to get a promotion (once they finally land a post-graduation job)?
Kinda sets women’s rights back a few decades don’t you think?
Calling Fluke a whore is an insult to whores who actually work for a living.
I love the hypocrisy of women using their goods to rise up through the world while simultaneously claiming that they work five times harder than men.
“…student was very square – heading for law enforcement, BTW. …”
Posted by: John Lewis
That tells of another thing very wrong. It’s fine to be taking a degree in anything you like if you can afford it for the sake of it, but there is something wrong if you think you need a university degree to work in law enforcement. (There is something even more wrong in law enforcement agencies thinking you need it. If people who are clever enough to get into university can’t be trained to be effective police officers without first getting degrees in sociology, then the recruitment and training is being run by people who aren’t clever enough to run police services.)
To each their own wrt their views on prostitution. While such services are ones I’ve never used and never plan on using, who am I to say about what’s right & wrong about such a contractual agreement between two consenting adults?
But what completely galls me is how these young women seem to be in a state of denial about the fact that they ARE prostitutes! That’s precisely what they are. The example in the article of the one woman telling her parents that the money came from a scholarship is very telling. She knows fully well that her parents wouldn’t approve of their college-attending daughter working as a prostitute so that’s why she made up the big lie.
While I stand to be corrected, I wonder if 95%+ of these women gleefully voted for Obama?!
“If they’re willing to whore themselves out to pay for university, is it a stretch to think they’ll whore themselves out to get a promotion (once they finally land a post-graduation job)?…”
Posted by: soozbc
If they will, they will, university degree or not. And obviously, there will be men who sell them those promotions either way.
“She knows fully well that her parents wouldn’t approve of their college-attending daughter working as a prostitute so that’s why she made up the big lie.”
Maybe. College-aged daughters may not want to share any details of their relationships with their parents. In my last year of school I had an address where my parents thought I lived but I actually lived with my boyfriend. It might be feelings of shame that causes daughters to lie but it also might be not wanting to get into a pointless discussion. BTW, my bartender boyfriend gave me free drinks…so, prostitution or gift?
There’s a strong sense of entitlement and a lack of self-evaluation. This is due to our modern socialization, where children are not judged but praised for their ‘inner expressions’ and are told, repeatedly, of their ‘rights’ and nothing of their responsibilities.
Oh, and what happened to feminism and the equality of women and their right to earn their living and pay their own bills – as do the male students?
geezus, some of U SDA’r are real prudes, U should have travelled with me in the early to mid eightys, you may have had that veil of stupidity removed from your eyes
Robert…how old are U????
What surprises me is that anyone is “surprised” by this. I agree totally with Cyclist. To blame this on the “current” culture is absurd.
Dating myself here, but I couldn’t help remember the famous Point/Counterpoint skit from the first year of SNL re: the Lee Marvin palimony case. Dan Akroyd to Jane Curtin: “Girls, what you’re telling us is when you’re on your backs, the meter’s running”.
Or as the Quebec booboisie might say “Plus ca la change, plus ca la meme chose”
I’m not surprised, and I’m not a prude…my only point is this:
Condoning or shrugging your shoulders at this type of behaviour does nothing to help how women are viewed in the workplace. In fact, it means women won’t be taken seriously and that means they won’t be treated the same as male colleagues and thus won’t have the same opportunities available to them.
It basically chips away at all the progress that has been made over the last 100 years.
I am old enough to remember the more limited career options open to most women 40 – 50 years ago: teaching, nursing, secretarial school. I think girls today don’t realize all that they have available to them that their grandmothers did not.
Regret will follow.
soozbc said: “Condoning or shrugging your shoulders at this type of behaviour does nothing to help how women are viewed in the workplace.”
Lemme tell you something, women are on the whole viewed as a PAIN IN THE @SS in the workplace, and not just by men. I mean by -other women- too. Every stupid, sucky, crybaby PC policy that makes you life hell at work has a woman behind it.
Some chicks want to use their t1ts to have an easy life, let ’em. There are worse things.
dang. Where was my Sugar-Momma when I was in school? Girls have so many choices. One of our female atty’s worked as a stripper while in law school in the 90’s (Ivy League, top-tier). No student loan, and according to her, no regrets. Doesn’t seem to have slowed her career down at all. ‘Skirt work’ does pay.
Phantom…wow.
I think you made my point.
BTW – I’m neither a fan of stupid, sucky, crybaby PC policies, nor people who encourage chicks to use their t1ts to have an easy life. Maybe it’s why I’m self employed.
soozbc, you were right @ 3:33.
Prostitutes, pure and simple. Maybe short term, but still prostitutes.
I don’t think you give men in the workplace enough credit. Men seem to have no trouble differentiating between women who play around and those who did not. I cannot remember any of the first type who advanced because of their physical relationships – I think the sleeping your way to the top is more urban/Hollywood myth than the norm.
I worked with many smart, accomplished women. Granted they were all science-y and down to earth types. Seeing people as individuals rather than a gender or race makes a big difference-#StereotypeNoMore.
Send Theresa Spence and her Gang the link to SeekingArrangement.
Self employed? Me too. Can’t tolerate d@mn fools at work. Male or female, makes no difference. Although to my eye there seem to be a lot more d@mn fool women out there than men these days. Perhaps I’m biased from working in hospitals though, and watching female “highly trained medical professionals” surf eBay all day long and let patients suffer.
As to encouraging women to get by on their “attributes”, it is a phenomenon which happens. Can’t do anything about it except teach your children right from wrong. What other people teach their children, if anything, I can’t (and shouldn’t!) control.
On the bright side each of these young women will eventually discover for themselves why this kind of behavior is a bad idea. As surely as day follows night, they will.
Wouldn’t call it new:
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/10/correction-asu-adult-film-star-did-not-get-her-scholarship-revoked
Sure as hell would hate to see my daughter appearing in a story like the above.
“On the bright side each of these young women will eventually discover for themselves why this kind of behavior is a bad idea. As surely as day follows night, they will.” Exactly.
It may be the easy road now and financially lucrative, but there will be a price to pay in the long run. Seen this happen a couple of lifetimes ago in my first young man stage.
The can’t suffer fools, male or female, at work is also true. Some people, male and female, do though, and brown-nose while they are at it. They are almost worse, as they will stab others in the back, while the subjects of this thread just lay on their backs.
Amen to that brother Phantom 🙂
“…my bartender boyfriend gave me free drinks…so, prostitution or gift?”
Posted by: LC Bennett
It depends on whether he would still get to be your boyfriend if he didn’t give you free drinks. Only you know the answer to that for sure. (If you care to tell e.g. me, I’d take your word for it, but I think it shouldn’t matter to you whether I believe you or not.)
I guess this is the thread that separates the so-cons from the libertarians. As the latter I’ll happily go on record and say I’m fine with that kind of arrangement of between consenting adults. Prostitutes? Maybe, if you want to be nasty about. Whores? Honestly, the 19th century called and would like their word back.
BTW – I’m neither a fan of stupid, sucky, crybaby PC policies, nor people who encourage chicks to use their t1ts to have an easy life. Maybe it’s why I’m self employed.
yup same here. The tradeswomen I work with didn’t have to prostitute themselves to get an education. Of course they were getting a useful education not some silly liberal arts degree. Oh well, it makes for better educated prostitutes, so there’s some good in it.
Well, after 20 years he is still around and no longer a bartender so, no, it wasn’t the main focus of our relationship (although he still mixes and serves the drinks).
The bigger point is that women and men have always had a give and take relationship. I fail to see how a formal relationship is significantly different from the informal one or where the line between gifts and prostitution is to be drawn. Some feminists think marriage itself is a form of prostitution.
I agree with rat. The relationships between consenting adults is their business. They may regret it while others might consider it a worthwhile trade. I am sure lots of students regret their huge student loan debt, too.
LC Bennett
I recall a Irish lady who turn that glass ceiling into a glass bedroom floor. She was smart, good lookin and “flexible”, made it all the way to the top, and stayed on top, even after her BF (one of the principle share holders and CEO) got the boot. I’v also heard of other such sucesses, and say good for them:-))
as to some of the “prudes” in here, I’d love to take them on a tour of the real world:-))))
“Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for Wales?”
Why, Heather, it profits a woman nothing to give away her honour for the whole world … but for Syracuse?
Yes, LAS, they sure did and that’s the problem.
That is an assessment and a half, sir. Why should women get brains and a real job? As long as they pretend to the higher ideals of accomplishment and egalitarianism, they can screw around and be hypocrites.
Now we have a face of those who voted for Obama again.
I was learning how to spell. How about you?
Why is it prudish to question the bona fides of people who are actually- well- whores?
Gee can hardly wait until the day you overhear 4-6 yr old girls playing ‘prostitute’ with their dolls.
“my sugar daddy bought me this diamond necklace that double as a thong’ wheee!
No it isn’t. That’s not a problem. At least not for the rest of us.
A logical step in the separation of sex from reproduction.
What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own lives is none of my business.
Will agree with the rat and LAS, it’s a voluntary arrangement between consenting adults. If we look back over the last few thousand years, it appears that such arrangements between older men and much younger women have been quite common.
What would be news is if women in their 70’s were “sugar mommies” for young male university students.
Well, at least we know how much they’re worth before depreciation sets in…
You don’t see these young ladies telling their stories publicly, and the college financial aid office isn’t promoting it, so keep telling yourselves that it’s OK, no big deal. You don’t really believe it, and neither do I.
Anyone got a daughter doing this who wants to tell her story, sans anonymity? I borrowed the money to pay my daughters’ tuitions, and it was a better deal than this, for my self-respect and theirs.
Anyone outing their daughter or themselves? I didn’t think so.
Theft actually…unless he owned the bar.