The car with the $23,000 battery;
When the new plug-in sales share of the total market is only a pathetic 0.65%, this is hardly shocking:
Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf Prove Tough Resells – Used EV Market Less Than Booming […]
Of course all new cars lose roughly 20% of their value the moment they roll off the lot. But there are a lot of used plug-in-specific problems.
You don’t get the $7,500 federal bribe on the used ones.

To quote Charlie Brown, “good grief”, to hell with the plug in car, I’ll have me a horse and buggy.
What? Kate…you do not have 23K to blow on a car which is going to drive your electric bill up? phil will be so disappointed,you trough feeding farmer(sarc for those to stupid to realize).
Oh. And just how are you going to get rid of them batteries? Flush them down the sewer with the crap from Victoria?
Oh. And just how are you going to get rid of those batteries?
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Push it into a lake and watch it burn..
If the electric car WERE to catch on I see two types of rolling brown outs in the future. first there will be brownouts caused by failures of the infostructure for power distribution that will be unable to cope with the deman. second there will be a plethera of stranded (brownout) units on the road where premature battery failure occurred or the owner tried to push the envelope too far.
Oh you right-wingnuts!
There’s such an easy answer. Go to California or Hawaii and buy one of the abandoned Carter-era wind turbines (they ought to be pretty cheap) and bolt it to the roof to recharge the battery.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html
When the supply of those runs out, there should be plenty more available in Ontario.
If you have your own off-grid source of renewable electricity, then a sparky car might make sense. In almost every other case it just means more dirty polluting coal will be burned to charge them.
It’s 30 below today, my gasoline car will start and keep me warm, a sparky car won’t.
“just means more dirty polluting coal will be burned to charge them.”
#1….coal is now very clean what with scrubbers,etc
#2….you call plant food a pollutant? Work for the EPA?
#3…it’s 30 below….liar.cAGW says it must be at most -25,helping to melt the Arctic Ocean.
#4….nothing is renewable.You must destroy one thing to get another…phsyics 101.Opps.Do they still teach physics?
I recycle as a side job, those batteries have me drooling!!!!!
wait till the watermelons discover that these eco warrior cars a eco poluters, they’ll have a melt down!!!!!
“just means more dirty polluting coal will be burned to charge them.”#1….coal is now very clean what with scrubbers,etc#2….you call plant food a pollutant? Work for the EPA?#3…it’s 30 below….liar.cAGW says it must be at most -25,helping to melt the Arctic Ocean.#4….nothing is renewable.You must destroy one thing to get another…phsyics 101.Opps.Do they still teach physics?
Posted by: Justthinkin at December 18, 2012 6:16 PM
Yer barking up the wrong tree dude if you think I’m one of the CAGW crowd, and now you’ve shown everyone what an idiot you are. All four of your idiotic statements are wrong. It’s not worth my time to disprove them. Go troll elsewhere.
Funny this reminds me of an earlier battery scam.
Remember back in the 90’s when they nailed ya $5 to dispose of your old car battery? What they did was sell that battery to a guy with a truck for $5…who in turn sold them to a larger recycler.
Then they started charging you $5 if you didn’t give them your old battery….same drill…
Scrap large steel case fork lift batteries bring $200-300. This notion of having to pay for disposal of these EV car batteries is just an extension of the whole EV car scam….betcha….
Introduced to much fanfare in 2009, Government Motors — er, General Motors — quietly killed the Chevrolet Silverado Hybrid pickup this week when it unveiled its new, redesigned, 2014 pickup lineup.
http://www.nationalreview.com/planet-gore/335667/green-trucks-stall-henry-payne#
Here the C-Tire charges a non-refundable eco-fee on every vehicle battery whether or not you bring the old one in. Walmart charges a deposit which is refunded when you bring the old battery in.
I’m surprised that plug-ins are .65% of the market.
@ Justthinkin, north_of_60
I think that was mostly sarcasm on justthinkin’s part. I can’t tell if his mistreatment of the 1st law of thermodynamics on point 4 is also sarcasm honestly.
The whole electric car market depends solely on tyrants such as everyone’s favorite Fascocrats and the One being able to sufficiently distort the market to somehow make so-called renewable sources cost-effective versus conventional sources. Current technology and reality is not agreeing with their world view, and they even more idiotically for typical sensationalized knee-jerk politically expedient reasons, revile the clear benefits of immediate application of nuclear to their stated mission of eliminating pollution. Obviously to them it’s not c02 that must burn, pardon the pun, but modern civilization. They are all misanthropic misers.
When I discuss this stuff with progs, honestly, I feel like I’m living Atlas Shrugged.
I wonder what those same envio nuts would say when they have to build nuclear power pants in everyone’s back yard. To power all those electric cars, they want build. Because their solar cells are junk.
@ Just thinkin you have offended the King of the North,you have been declared an idiot by Royal Decree.You must imediately locate the nearest Tree Hugger Mobile that is still capable of reaching 60 KMH and throw yourself in its path.If by some miracle you happen to survive you will be allowed to serve the Royal Household in a position keeping with your level of incompetence.
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