Interesting how about a third of the people care about social mores, another third kinda bend like reeds in the wind, lukewarm.
The last third enthusiastically embrace any perversion that feels good at the time.
All perfectly scriptural…
Anyway, carry on…
Ha ha, you are assuming that all the people who voted PC are the enemy. Not true at all, most were simply voting status quo in a global ressesuon environment or are not fully educated to what has happened to the PC party. Many bought into the WRP demonization. That will change in the next 4 years. It’s a learning curve nothing more. WRP took this election, everyone else lost something.
Damned iPod.
Knight 99, I mentioned to you on the other thread that you should take a look at the Asus transformer tablet with a 10″ screen and a detachable keyboard.
This is not a paid advertisement, and yes it is OT.
Knight 99 @10:42 – 35% was no fluke. Albertan’s were impressed with the WRP but not enough to displace the PC’s.
I guess I wasn’t clear in my previous post.
The WRP should position itself for a run in 2016. What happened yesterday is not necessarily bad. It points out that there is more work to do and that a party who has been in power for 41 years will not be easily knocked off.
Abtrapper>
Right on, there’s the spirit.
Your absolutely right, it takes time. This was a victory for the WRP no two ways about it. Only the “faulty” polls turn it into something that feels like defeat.
That is why the polling seems suspect. They snatched the victory out of hearts & minds, when the results were positive and momentum had been set.
Ken >
Ok thanks, will look at one down the road. Have plenty of different machines for now, just depends where I’m posting from, as to what I’m using.
The little hand iPod is crappy for spelling and grammar with fat fingers, but it fits the back pocket nicely when on the move.
Well, that didn’t take long… Danielle Smith, 16 April 2012: “We have always said the [climate change] science isn’t settled and we need to continue to monitor the debate.” Danielle Smith, 24 April 2012: ““Our members have now seen that some of our policies were rejected by Albertans, quite frankly. We will be revisiting some of those. You can’t run a government if you don’t get sanction from the people…There may also be a stronger statement to make about climate change and our policy around greenhouse gas emissions.”
Davenport >
If you want to throw money at the government because “the science is settled”, they will be more than happy to take it.
It’s a no brainer for the WRP, if you insist on us collecting from you then I guess we’ll have to accommodate.
Businesses forced to pay more will just pass any extra costs onto the consumer. If you want to pay more, you shall.
Looking at the electoral map is seems to be a South vs. North split, with the cities going Liberal and NDP. Clearly WR didn’t get it done up north, so that’s where the problem will be solved.
Somehow I doubt Northern Alberta is going to be all about the carbon cap-and-trade biz. That was a bone thrown to the Eastern media, give them something to bite.
Best analysis on why Wildrose lost by Publius:
“The story of the 2012 election isn’t the failure of Wildrose it’s the collapse of the Liberal Party. Something like 15% to 20% of the electorate abandoned the Grits and moved over to the Tories. At the same time the Wildrose increased its popular vote share from 6.78% to 34%. That’s a 27.22 percentage point shift to their favour. The Tories saw their share of the popular vote slide from 52.72% down to 44% last night. Only a few points off from the 46.8% that Ralph Klein got in his last outing.
However you run the math the conclusion is inescapable. Alberta conservatives left the PCs and went over to the Wildrose. Alberta liberals left the Liberal Party and went over to the PCs. Call it the Wildrose two-step. Now swing your partner round and round!”
The PCs are now the new Liberals. Remember tons of Liberals, primarily school teachers, joined the PCs to vote Redford the leader as she promised them $100 million would be given back to them. Public employees and their allied unions don’t give a dam* about fiscal problems and high taxes as they are fully protected with defined benefit plans and jobs for life. Between 2001 and 2010 95% of Alberta’s revenues went for public sector salaries.
As we see in Ontario’s cities like Alberta’s the voting block is solid PC/Liberal/NDP as this is the primary home of public employees and those dependent on taxpayer largesse. Each election this gets more solid as the takers outnumber the makers. And why not as here are examples of Ontario’s 79,000 making over $100k.
City of Toronto – Plainclothes Police Constable $140,337.39
Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Registered Nurse $146,169.33
Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Nurse Practitioner $118,553.92
Toronto District School Board Teacher, Elementary $130,836.78 http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/pu…
Interesting how about a third of the people care about social mores, another third kinda bend like reeds in the wind, lukewarm.
The last third enthusiastically embrace any perversion that feels good at the time.
All perfectly scriptural…
Anyway, carry on…
Ha ha, you are assuming that all the people who voted PC are the enemy. Not true at all, most were simply voting status quo in a global ressesuon environment or are not fully educated to what has happened to the PC party. Many bought into the WRP demonization. That will change in the next 4 years. It’s a learning curve nothing more. WRP took this election, everyone else lost something.
Damned iPod.
Knight 99, I mentioned to you on the other thread that you should take a look at the Asus transformer tablet with a 10″ screen and a detachable keyboard.
This is not a paid advertisement, and yes it is OT.
Knight 99 @10:42 – 35% was no fluke. Albertan’s were impressed with the WRP but not enough to displace the PC’s.
I guess I wasn’t clear in my previous post.
The WRP should position itself for a run in 2016. What happened yesterday is not necessarily bad. It points out that there is more work to do and that a party who has been in power for 41 years will not be easily knocked off.
premier Allison McGuinty
Just another politician here folks. Get involved.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/wildrose-to-reconsider-conscience-rights-climate-change-policies/article2413350/
Abtrapper>
Right on, there’s the spirit.
Your absolutely right, it takes time. This was a victory for the WRP no two ways about it. Only the “faulty” polls turn it into something that feels like defeat.
That is why the polling seems suspect. They snatched the victory out of hearts & minds, when the results were positive and momentum had been set.
Ken >
Ok thanks, will look at one down the road. Have plenty of different machines for now, just depends where I’m posting from, as to what I’m using.
The little hand iPod is crappy for spelling and grammar with fat fingers, but it fits the back pocket nicely when on the move.
Well, that didn’t take long…
Danielle Smith, 16 April 2012: “We have always said the [climate change] science isn’t settled and we need to continue to monitor the debate.”
Danielle Smith, 24 April 2012: ““Our members have now seen that some of our policies were rejected by Albertans, quite frankly. We will be revisiting some of those. You can’t run a government if you don’t get sanction from the people…There may also be a stronger statement to make about climate change and our policy around greenhouse gas emissions.”
Davenport >
If you want to throw money at the government because “the science is settled”, they will be more than happy to take it.
It’s a no brainer for the WRP, if you insist on us collecting from you then I guess we’ll have to accommodate.
Businesses forced to pay more will just pass any extra costs onto the consumer. If you want to pay more, you shall.
Looking at the electoral map is seems to be a South vs. North split, with the cities going Liberal and NDP. Clearly WR didn’t get it done up north, so that’s where the problem will be solved.
Somehow I doubt Northern Alberta is going to be all about the carbon cap-and-trade biz. That was a bone thrown to the Eastern media, give them something to bite.
Best analysis on why Wildrose lost by Publius:
“The story of the 2012 election isn’t the failure of Wildrose it’s the collapse of the Liberal Party. Something like 15% to 20% of the electorate abandoned the Grits and moved over to the Tories. At the same time the Wildrose increased its popular vote share from 6.78% to 34%. That’s a 27.22 percentage point shift to their favour. The Tories saw their share of the popular vote slide from 52.72% down to 44% last night. Only a few points off from the 46.8% that Ralph Klein got in his last outing.
However you run the math the conclusion is inescapable. Alberta conservatives left the PCs and went over to the Wildrose. Alberta liberals left the Liberal Party and went over to the PCs. Call it the Wildrose two-step. Now swing your partner round and round!”
The PCs are now the new Liberals. Remember tons of Liberals, primarily school teachers, joined the PCs to vote Redford the leader as she promised them $100 million would be given back to them. Public employees and their allied unions don’t give a dam* about fiscal problems and high taxes as they are fully protected with defined benefit plans and jobs for life. Between 2001 and 2010 95% of Alberta’s revenues went for public sector salaries.
As we see in Ontario’s cities like Alberta’s the voting block is solid PC/Liberal/NDP as this is the primary home of public employees and those dependent on taxpayer largesse. Each election this gets more solid as the takers outnumber the makers. And why not as here are examples of Ontario’s 79,000 making over $100k.
City of Toronto – Plainclothes Police Constable $140,337.39
Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Registered Nurse $146,169.33
Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Nurse Practitioner $118,553.92
Toronto District School Board Teacher, Elementary $130,836.78
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/pu…