Listened to this last night live, as was Kate. She texted, “This speech is crazy good.” I was told to get it on SDA ASAP. It took all night. Israeli PM Netanyahu. It is worth the wait.
Listened to this last night live, as was Kate. She texted, “This speech is crazy good.” I was told to get it on SDA ASAP. It took all night. Israeli PM Netanyahu. It is worth the wait.
I was so tempted to put SCOAMF up with a juxtapose, but that would have been too unfair to Bambi. You can see SCOAMF:http://youtu.be/A0rFbP6KvxY
THIS is what a leader looks like.
This does appear to be slowly but inevitably coming to a head. Israel understands what the stakes are, Obama not so much.
THIS is what a leader looks like.
Posted by: grok at March 6, 2012 9:54 AM
Could not agree more,grok.The Western world could take some lessons from the Israels regarding dhimmitude,and self-preservation! I wonder if Zero has got a call into his shrink.It must be a MASSIVE blow to a narciccist to have his butt handed to him on a platter. Of course,with a wounded pride and sense of greatness taking a shot,might make him(Zero)really go off the deep end.Maybe ET can add some insight???
There wasn’t any nuance in that.Israel will not live under the threat of annihilation,nor should they just so others can feel good about themselves.
Obama knows precisely what the stakes are.
Just an observation but I wouldn’t want to mess around with Mr. Netanyahu’s silent friends.
Skip forward to 8:25. Until then it’s just thank yous and pats on the back.
Listen to that speech . . .
then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0wbH5KVPrPo#t=3s
Really got their back, doesn’t he.
Natenyahu’s speech was a direct confrontation of Obama. Can Obama handle it? Heh.
Note how Netanyahu began his speech referring to and thanking ambassadors, thanking both sides of Congress (and remember, Obama disparages Congress as his Opposition); and thanking students, citizens from the various states. But..he doesn’t thank or refer to Obama, The Great One. Nor to Obama’s Sec of State. Nor to Pelosi who also spoke there but advocated ‘talks’. Hmm.
Then, he goes on to state that ‘no-one is talking about Iran’. That has to include…Obama. And only then, after all these other references, he brings in Obama, by defining Obama’s stance FOR HIM! He tells everyone that Obama is ‘committed to preventing Iran’s obtaining a nuclear weapon’. How can Obama deal with this public description? Note that Netanyahu then goes on to describe a nuclear Iran and the disastrous concequences.
He openly mocks those who accept Iran’s self-definition of their activities as ‘only dealing with medical projects’. He disparages those who (like Obama who is not referenced) prefer diplomacy and sanctions. Where does this leave Obama? Does he reject Netanyahu’s description of him as ‘committed to preventing that weapon?
He can’t deny it, for that would make him, Obama, appear pro-terrorism. It would also make him appear stupid (those medical isotopes?), and weak.
Then, Netanyahu sets up a comparison between the Jewish Congress asking the USA to bomb Auswitz – and its refusal as ‘asking for worse German reactions’. And, he states that ‘the US of today is not the US of 1944. Heh. He’s setting Obama up to Either be exactly like 1944 – or not.
And, he openly stated that Israel and Netanyahu were not subservient to anyone. That’s another confrontation – where he declares that he is not subservient to Obama.
Remember, Obama has made it clear, by his actions – ignore his sophist words – by his actions towards Israel and Netanyahu. Remember his keeping Netanyahu waiting while, he, Obama, had some other meeting? Remember all his dictatorial orders to Israel to ‘do this and that’. He’s being told: Get Lost.
Now- how will Obama, who is a malignant narcissist, react to this? There are two reactive modes of a narcissist, when he feels he cannot control AnOther. Note that the essential Being of a Narcissist – is that he MUST control other people. Must control them.
If he can’t, an immediate reaction is anger – and Obama is a malicious and vindictive person. But another reaction is to move into a state of unreality where that Other Person who can’t be controlled – literally ceases to exist for them. I suggest that Obama will move more and more into an attitude where for him, Israel ceases to exist. He will do nothing.
BUT – that malice and vindictiveness is still there. He might move more and more to the Iranian side and actually, try to set himself up as Their Friend.
The thing is, with Obama, you are not dealing with an individual who operates by rational and intelligent processes. Obama is, after all, extremely ignorant of history, of political theory, of economic theory. He’s ignorant of the ME history, ignorant of ecological realities there, ignorant of demographics etc. And he has no interest in learning anything.
Obama operates within the mythic tales he’s learned as a child in a rapidly socialist and anti-American environment – and – within his increasingly pathological narcissism which requires that he control and dominate others. So, his reactions will be psychological not rational, not for the well-being of any peoples – Israeli, Persian, Arab, Amerians. It’s all about Him.
We are used to thinking, quite rightly, of Israel as fighting on the front lines in the war for civilization. But it’s time to recognize that Israel, under Netanyahu, is now the West’s leader in that war.
I’m with Texas Canuck, I don’t think they are they are there to carry papers…
ET you hit every point dead on.
THIS is what a leader looks like.
Exactly what I thought while watching. A truly great man.
ET: How does Obama’s near-subservience to certain world leaders fit with your theory?
I agree that Obama seems narcissistic. The subservience is something I’ve seen in western liberals who take the side of xyz oppressed group and then place that group above themselves. Can you readily explain this side of the man in conjunction with the narcissism?
A war rally in zeros front yard,love it.
The fact that Obamba and Sarkozy have been caught trashing the man privately, you know he’s a good and decent person.
Very well put,ET. But question.Is barrack trying to set himself up as the new and better Chamberlain,or is he just trying to sooth his own battered ego?? Personally,I don’t know which is the more dangerous to Western civillization.
green mamba – I don’t see Obama’s bowing to the Saudi Prince or the Japanese Emperor or… as his personal subservience.
I’d suggest that he’s doing two things. First – he’s showing them USA subservience. At these these events, he ‘was’ the USA; he represented the USA, not himself. And so, he was defining the USA as subservient to them.
At the same time, he, as Himself, was defining that he was on their side and also recognized the USA as subservient.
That’s a powerful role for Obama. He, personally, is defining the identity of a nation, the USA. And he, personally, is stating that it is subservient to these other nations. That’s ego building for a narcissist.
ET: Thanks – makes a lot of sense.
This is a statement saying that Israel will go it alone. Things are going to get very messy in the coming months and years.
I’m puzzled by the the syncophancy toward ET’s simple (and obvious) summary of the speech.
I’m struck by the contrast between her correct excoriation of Obama’s foolish, naive and destructive attempt to befriend Iran and her tendency to do EXACTLY this with her persistent and delusional (and downright galling, to be frank!) view that Israel failed to “enable a Palestinian state”; her refusal to understand that unilateral concessions (land for nothing!) to the Pali-nazis are just as suicidal as Obama’s moronic appeasement of Iran.
just thinkin – We have Obama comparing himself to Lincoln, Roosevelt, Reagan, Martin Luther King, Ghandi. He’s certainly not self-defining himself as Chamberlain!
And he’s not ‘soothing his own battered ego’. A narcissist can readily talk himself out of any attacks on him. As I suggested, Obama will probably ignore Israel from now on; it won’t have any existence for him.
I’d suggest that he is, emotionally, anti-semitic. I’m not saying that he is this ideologically for my view is that Obama has no ideology.
He is psychologically a socialist – not ideologically a socialist. That is, he hasn’t thought through socialism on his own, read the various tracts and thinkers, and decided that it is, in itself, a constructive policy. He’s a socialist because it is the only political ideology that sets up Rulers over the Ruled. And Obama defines himself, and needs to be, within the set of Rulers.
At any rate, I think he’s psychologically anti-semitic, based entirely on his upbringing. Obama doesn’t examine his opinions; he just ‘has’ them.
He is certainly pro-Muslim which is OK in my view – but, he doesn’t examine his opinions and therefore, is unable to see that the Islamic world of today, of the real world, isn’t the one of his childhood emotional attachment to its songs and fictions.
Obama is psychologically incapable of ‘living in reality’, of interacting directly with reality. He lives in a fictional world – and I mean that – a fictional world entirely of his own making. He cannot interact directly with people – he has to control them. He cannot accept real hard facts about this external world; he has to control the outside world and make it fit into His World – which is one which he can control.
So- beyond being intellectually ignorant of the Middle East (and everywhere else), Obama is psychologically unable to deal with the reality of the Middle East. The FACTS of Iranian imperialism, of Islamist fascism, of terrorism – he can’t accept them as objectively real in themselves. He thinks that all he has to do is ‘talk to them’, which is to say, to REWRITE their behaviour in His Fictional Words – and their actions will exist within His Fictional World. He’ll be in control.
He can’t relate to the fact that ‘the real world exists quite independently of him. When such a situation emerges – Obama moves into the phase where he utterly ignores that objective real world. It won’t exist – because he can’t transform it into his Fictional World. I suggest he’ll do that with Netanyahu and Israel.
Now- what his Administrative Gang will do – I’m not sure. Surely they saw that Netanyahu had openly defined the US and Obama – for them – and pushed them to the wall. Will they accept this? Or, will they, like Obama, turn their backs?
Just like his last speech in the US, Bibi portrays a confident leader, and I think this will be the last visit to obama. The message was clear, from here on in Israel is playing alone, there is only America it could have turned too and it remains to be seen if Israel can wait until the US elections to see if there is a change in the US position, either way Bibi made it clear again, time is not on their side, either covert or in their face Israel’s options are running out.
They have waited and seen the spineless doctrines of the west, how apt that he brandished those papers, Israel and Bibi will not let history repeat itself, I think he just told us all one last time, Israel has waited long enough.
The perfect storm is on the horizon.
me no dhimmi – hey, are you actually saying that the only reason that people have liked my comments on Netanyahu and Obama is because THEY are sycophants? That’s rather insulting to them – never mind to my own rational outline!
As for my oft-repeated criticism of Israel, which is galling to you (sigh, I’m not apologizing)- that Israel is at fault for not enabling a Palestinian state – I stand by that view. Israel, in my view, had the greatest to gain by setting up a Federation, made up of two economically federated states, Israel and Palestine. This would have greatly reduced if not nullified the ‘upfront’ reason of the other ME states for their hostility to Israel. The reason it didn’t wasn’t because of Palestinian violence (you are ignoring settler violence and ignoring the effects of the occupation) but because of the aquifers and land of the W Bank. I’ve outlined this many times before.
As I said, the conflict in the ME can’t be reduced to only a conflict between Israel and Palesinians or Arabs.
You are ignoring the imperialist ambitions of Iran, a Persian, non-arab, state. You are also ignoring that not one ME nation has ever assisted the Palestinians – and you are ignoring the tribalism of the ME – which views Palestinians as ‘the lowest of the low’.
To reduce this whole complexity to a view that ‘if only the Palestinians’ were nicer and wouldn’t throw rocks – is naive. That’s not the real problem there. And the result of Israel not taking the initiative and dealing with the situation – is that Iran and its network in the Hezbollah and Hamas, – which is its cover for its own imperialist ambitions – has been greatly strengthened.
Knowing that Obamas sympathies lie with the Muslims, it must keep him up at night knowing he is between a rock and a hard place when it comes to supporting Israel. Look at the Jewish celebrity list that could put huge holes in his chances for re-election
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_actors
Then look at the Muslim celebrity list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Muslims
The simple logic should tell him on which side his bread is buttered on. Add to that, New York has more Jews (think Wall St.) than Israel and it’s not hard to see where he has to say all the right things when it comes to supporting a country he probably hates. As a supporter of the wrong side it must be driving him nuts, but there is little wiggle room except to stall and and say all the right things until he is forced to do something meaningful.
Wisdom, strength, loyalty, integrity and decorum.
I believe we’ve just been warned to brace ourselves for war in the ME.
me no @ 12:36:
Save your breath. ;~|
Thanks Lance; Cheers
I picked up a bit of scuttlebutt from the old boy net a coupla weeks past and it surfaced on PJ media over the weekend.
IRAN probably has a working bomb….tested in North Korea.
Nork devises are plutonium based but the last 2 unheralded underground tests leaked uranium isotopes…..not plutonium….
My take is a crude devise is a relatively small issue….one light and compact enough to be a missile payload involves a much more complex process. In fact it is doubtful neither the NORKs, Indians, nor the Pakistani’s have yet to have this technology.
That said…..Hiroshima and Nagasaki are signal evidence that even a crude nuclear weapon is a dangerous thing…..despite it being as obsolete as paratroops in 2012.
Remember as early as June 1944, paratroops had evolved into elite ground troops. German fahlsturm were deployed in Normandy as ground troops….as were US paratroops later at Bostogne.
The lesson is that todays cutting edge methods are obsolete tomorrow. The laser guided smart weapons of Gulf I had been discarded for GPS based weapons by Gulf II….
It’s called “A Passing Advantage”…..
No insult intended ET to you or SDAists. But you’re not the go-girl on the Arab-Israel conflict.
You’ve been consistently wrong on the Arab-Israel conflict (once arguing that the Six Day War was due to water!) and you’re wrong on Obama.
Wrong in the sense of serioulsy incomplete:
Obama is a marxist. All marxists are narcissists, unless of course you believe that they really are about “empowering the Prols” and not about personal aggrandizement. .
You are utterly wrong on Obama not having an ideology. He is, without question, the most ideological president ever.
UNLESS … UNLESS … Obama is a Chauncy Gardiner of Marxism in that, miraculously, ALL his actions and pronouncements just happen to perfectly co-incide with marxist ideology!!!
Should have said New York has largest jewish population outside of Israel.
peterj: It’s wrong to assume that American Jews will vote primarily on the issue of Israel, despite the fact that a grasp of history might make it sensible to do so.
Many of the anti-Israel activist groups are headed by Jews. (I’ve had a couple of arguments with such people and the bottom line is that they are antisemites, even though they don’t realize it.) Jews being generally liberal, have exposure to the current “criticisms” of Israel and are affected by it. Probably the majority are not politically aware at all and will vote Obama, just because they have always voted Democrat.
IRAN probably has a working bomb….tested in North Korea.
Good thing Israel stole the nuclear technology a few years ago…not that they’ll use it, they need their enemies as much as their enemies need them. Hard to feel sorry for the top dog…
I finally had a chance to listen to the speech and Kate was right.
Not feeling sorry for Israel at all. They will be fine. They are not the ones in denial.
They will be taking good care of themselves.
I’m actually convinced that they really don’t care where Obambi sits on this issue. They don’t need him.
BTW…we are seeing Bible prophecy ‘happen’.
No, me no dhimmi – when you say I am wrong, on the Arab-Israeli Palestinian conflict, you are thereby assuming that YOUR view is ‘the truth’. I reject that. I consider it to be just – your view – just as mine is – just my view. Period. I’m speaking for me and I hope you are speaking only for yourself. And are not assuming that your view is a Universal Truth.
I happen to consider that water, and its control, is a key variable in the I-P situation – and this has been an ongoing problem for many years even before the formation of the Israeli state. And a key cause of the Six Day War was the Israeli diversion of Jordan River water to the Negev. Syria was attempting to stop water into Israel as well.
What bothers me is that you reject my right-to-my-view, by arguing that YOUR view is the only valid one. I disagree.
You and I also totally disagree on Obama’s socialism, which you claim is ideological and I claim is strictly psychological.
I also disagree with your view that ‘all marxists are narcissists’. I consider such an opinion logically weak and empirically unprovable. After all, that might also, logically, suggest that IF you are a narcissist, THEN, you are probably a marxist. I doubt that. And don’t confuse egoism with narcissism – they are totally different.
And as I’ve said before, my view is that Obama is not an idealogue. He hasn’t an intellectual thought in his brain – he HAS a lot of opinions, embedded there within his upbringing, but he doesn’t have the intellectual capacity or curiosity to examine them. As such, he is not, in my view, an idealogue.
I repeat, Obama is most certainly a socialist, but he is such because in my view he psychologically can only function in such a political infrastructure of Rulers over Ruled.
So – you have your views and I have mine. I suggest we can debate them, but, we have to acknowledge that this is a debate. Not an assertion of ultimate truth.
Me No Dhimmi, “You are utterly wrong on Obama not having an ideology. He is, without question, the most ideological president ever.”
I agree. It’s chilling to read the material being posted on the Breitbart site. Obama is NOT NAIVE. He and his comrades are ideological thugs who mock the traditional values and principles of the USA.
And, of course, he brings up the book of Esther, the only Book in scripture that is wholly fiction, but allowed to remain in scripture as a lesson.
Every other Book of the Bible has a second witness in other Books. Not so with the book of Esther. Never so much as mentioned.
Even secular history noticed;
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Esther
He had me @8:58.
No wonder Barry hates him. Netanyahu is a real man. What the hell is Obama?
I do have questions about this “bombing Auschwitz” business, though. Not that I doubt the account; and I’ve heard similar anecdotes (half-understood by me, as this one is) about Churchill. I just… if they had bombed Auschwitz, wouldn’t they have killed all the prisoners? Now remember, I’m just a dumb blonde, so anyone who feels inclined to expand on this point should type slowly.
So Israel is going to do what is necessary to prevent Iran from finishing its nuclear development program. And Obama said that the US has Israels back. He’s backing them into a corner.
No wonder the markets are tanking.
Watched Netanyahu’s speech last night. He’s a strong, intelligent and charismatic leader. Obama is no match for him. The two intense bodyguards were TANKS. I’m sure they’re needed.
All leaders have close similarity
let’s check similarity of
Natan Yahoo and Ahmadinajad
they all speak well
they are quick anger
they proof they love thier nation and hateful toward other nation
they are liar like pinocio
they have army and love war
they will pay big money to police and jewish crown of each country to spy on their side
they used religion to leglized thier action and crime
…http://ourlatinamerica.blogspot.com/2009/07/notable-quotable-liar-liar.html
Islamist lawmaker fired for nose job surgery I guess that is reason Ahmadinajad do not do nose job but natan yahoo did or may need better nose
jewish crown Hellena Gluzman
They actually wanted the rail lines bombed that took the Jews to the death camps and we said no.
There are so many comments here that have gone deeper then I could but Netanyahu’s message was clear, USA support us if you want to but Israel will be taking the lead.
I hope his reception by Harper was more positive and honest then what he’ll be getting from Obama.
PS
The telling comment in the letter from the US was something like “it will just make them (Nazis)more vicious and vindictive, dangerous.”
As wise person once said, “Pleasing your enemies doesn’t turn them into your friends.”
By the way where did that quote come from? I love it!
Natan yahoo when he entered to this salon for his speech the music like
music of Iranian kingdom playing and entering
How much Natan yahoo like land and land of Iran sound more Iran wait for new King Natanyahoo enter and take new land broker
I think this Natan yahoo love land more than Israel
this is like new Iran will welcome
so funny
and he always start from his wife Sarah
he scared of his wife
for wonder reception
lol
@ greenmamba at March 6, 2012 1:25 PM
” It’s wrong to assume that American Jews will vote primarily on the issue of Israel”
You are absolutely correct but I did not have “primarily” in mind as most Obama supporters are woefully ignorant on….everything. But the US jews are well represented in Hollywood , Wall St. and in circles of power. We have seen the power of Hollywood to influence the global warming brainwashing and as recently as the Keystone pipeline activism. There is a lot of power and influence that could go against Obama if is not careful and he will need all the votes he can get. He knows it.
Hmmmmmmm
ok
Is that lol at the end of your piece a nervous laugh indicating that this is what you want to believe but are afraid is not true?
Your comments about Sarah make me think that you are afraid of women and do not understand a man who does not fear them but joins them as equals.
@ ok at March 6, 2012 2:42 PM
Whatthehellyoutalkingabout?