48 Replies to “The NDP & CBC vs. Canada’s Energy Industry”

  4. Why the hell is the CBC above reproach? The governments of Canada are held to account 10 fold in comparison.

  5. It’s “malice”, Ezra. The CBC is so wrapped up in socialist utopianism they’ve completely lost their objectivity.
    CBC’ers don’t have to worry about the economy,WE all work to support THEM,so if they can shut down the pipelines to preserve B.C.’s (not) pristine wilderness,so much the better.
    James Moore is supposed to make an appearance at a Conservative Party function later this month. If they don’t ramp up the “donation” to more than I can afford,I intend to ask him why he is giving the CBC the kid gloves treatment.

  6. does CBC give a rat’s patootie for the long-suffering taxpayer who pay billions for this giant propeganda machine ? – one day sweet Je–s !

  8. It’s amazing that such “smut” not only exists but is broadcast on Canada’s state broadcast medium. Is there no way to stop these maniacs?
    Canadians that listen to the radio or perish the thought, watch CBC TV, have no reason to believe that they’re being lied to by this hostile to Canada agency.
    Only in Canada would this fly. In most of the Socialist countries that they seem to want Canada to be, they would be dragged out and shot for such anti-national interest comments.

  9. The CBC is a Government agency..Period… The complaints go to the PM and Harper must answer to the People…CBC is beyond it’s date stamp…
    If you the people look for others to do something about CBC it will just continue without any Canadian due diligence. The CBC is an UN/EU propagandist

  10. Every time the CPC folks call me looking for more money I have a chat about “fixing the CBC or no more from me”
    They are slow on the uptake but they seem to understand do what we want or no money.

  11. What would it take to corner the CBC/Liberal/NDPQ/Envirofascist agenda, and make them answer adult questions, such as:
    Given your pre-disposition to increase, raise, and enlarge multiple government handouts, largesse, jobs, and giveaways, where do you expect the additional, EXTRA tax revenue to come from, to fund all your pet projects, without borrowing against future generations?
    This is the question they refuse to answer, because it makes them unelectable.
    Being business friendly is anathema to them, yet it is what is necessary. Encouraging business, increase job prospects AND increases government revenues, without raising taxes.
    And the Oil Sands, and accompanying pipe lines are essential to that process.
    I was called the other night by the fundraising arm of the Conservative party, but told them I will contribute FOR LIFE, if they gut the CBC. Until then, I am waiting, chequebook in hand, ready to sign.

  12. After all the work Ezra has done for the Harper gov., I hope that have the good sense to follow up on these stories. You have a majority, you have the Senate, now get busy doing the things we elected you to do. Time’s a’wasting.

  14. I am so glad that the ethical government of Canada is willing to support ethical foreign owned oil companies to sell our natural resources to the ethical Republic of China. Then, Canada is ethically able to purchase oil from Saudis or other freedom loving Middle East countries because it “too expensive” to refine our ethical oil in our ethical country. Because everyone knows that ethics are fine if they don’t cost a dime.

  15. Dippers acting like treacherous cretins siding with Canada’s enemies – seems to be an ongoing trend. First Taliban Jack now a leader who runs with the global fascists who run the OPEC oil catel.

  16. mao- Why would any sensible oil company invest in a refinery, when the political climate appears to be solidly anti-oil? The only way to get a refinery built, is with government money, and nobody would vote for a party that gets involved with “big oil”. Refineries are a non-starter. Eastern Canada made its own bed, when they shunned Canadian oil for cheaper Saudi oil. They invested in tanker terminals, and not inter-provincial pipelines. Not a great move, in hindsight.

  17. Peter Foster, in today’s Financial Post http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/01/19/peter-foster-follow-the-money-then-expose-the-misinformation/ calls the CBC “…the unofficial CBC opposition…”.
    You and I, through our taxes fund this political and environmental activist “news” agency, yet do not get a tax deductible political donation receipt for their advocacy on the nightly 11 pm news.The CBC is not held to any standards applicable to an active political party in Canada on financial or legal constraints. They also have a pipeline into the Suzuki Foundation, an environmental advocacy “charity” through George Stromboulopoulous, who sits on their Board of Directors http://www.davidsuzuki.org/about/board/.

  18. coach – we can’t forget that there would have been some among Eastern Canada that wouldn’t have expected the west to stick around. Western independence seems to raise its head as an option every twenty years or so when the leading parties get particularly egregious, and since the west seems to be the source of political innovation in the country, those in the east who see “oh yeah, we’re gonna really stick it to them this time…” might see a separation vote (a la Quebec) as a possible outcome.

  19. Good answer from ‘coach’, I couldn’t have said it better.
    I too tell the Conservative party to clean up the bias at CBC if they want any more money from me. I’ve made it very clear that until I see objective reporting from my tax supported news network then they’ll get nothing from me. I do it in writing, because talk is cheap, and difficult to forward to those who make the decisions.

  20. I hope, mao, that you aren’t living in one of the ‘have not’ provinces which delivers social services to it’s residents equal to the services the Alberta government delivers to it’s own citizens because that ‘have not’ province receives Alberta transfer payments.
    That might be a conflict for you if you believe the drivel you write.
    Because everyone knows that ethics are fine if they don’t cost a dime.
    ~mao
    Does everyone know that?
    Well that can be your little secret.
    Oh, and you might want to learn the difference between ethics and morals.
    A person’s moral code is unchanging while the ethics he or she practices are other-dependent.
    example:
    -consider a criminal defense lawyer.
    Though the lawyer’s personal moral code likely finds murder immoral and reprehensible, ethics demand the accused client be defended as vigorously as possible, even when the lawyer knows the party is guilty and that a freed defendant would potentially lead to more crime.
    summation:
    ethics dictate that the needs of others, as described by the duty of office, be served before the office holder’s personal moral position.
    That is why these people at the CBC, who violated the ethics of their office, should be fired.

  21. So it’s ethical to sell oil to a corrupt, oppressive regime but it’s not ethical to buy oil from a different corrupt, oppressive regime? It appears that ethics are very flexible when you’re a Conservative.

  22. lberia, perhaps you could tell us which government or political party realistically promises to do absolutely zero business with regimes which have any human rights violations so that we could vote for it.
    Oh, and you seem to be as ignorant of the definition of ‘ethics’ as mao is.

  23. I’d feel better about taking money from the Chinese than giving money to the goat-fornicators.

  24. “…ethics dictate that the needs of others, as described by the duty of office, be served before the office holder’s personal moral position.”
    Posted by: Oz at January 21, 2012 4:44 PM
    So the needs of the corrupt Chinese are more important than holding a high moral position? Yet it is ethical to invoke ahigh moral position when it comes to buying oil from the courrupt Saudis?
    Don’t think that most people haven’t noticed the pretzel-like logic of this position. And Ezra “Goebbels” Levant can propagandize all he wants, all he is doing is driving more nails into the coffin of the Northern Gateway Project.

  25. coach, you are mixing up your politics with business. Oil companies do what’s cheapest for them in order to make the most profit, ie. Alberta oil to the US and not to eastern Canada; foreign, “unethical” oil to eastern Canada. They don’t care what a Quebecer may think of Alberta, or vice versa. If it was worth their while, they would build a pipeline and/or refinery in eastern Canada.
    On the otherhand, oil companies and their stooges in the Conservative government have been trying to sell Canada’s morally superior oil to the US. Inconvenient enironmental concerns in the US have created delays, so now the target for our morally superior oil it a . One which happens to have a large stake in Canada’s oil industry. But that’s ok, because selling oil to a corrupt regime known for it’s human rights abuses is better than buying oil from a corrupt regime known for it’s human rights abuses. Well, that’s what we like ro tell the Americans. We will continue to send our money to the goat fornicators while selling oil to criminals.

  26. ROTFL… make that: goat-fornicating terrorists.
    I don’t see the Chinese vowing to kill the infidels that don’t share their beliefs. As for their ‘human rights violations’, they’re not telling me how to live my life and I don’t have a right to tell them how to live theirs. There are plenty of ‘human rights violations’ in our country too. Look at how the Chief and Council on some reserves treat the people who aren’t related to them.

  27. So the needs of the corrupt Chinese are more important than holding a high moral position? Yet it is ethical to invoke ahigh moral position when it comes to buying oil from the courrupt Saudis?
    Do you ever think of the needs of Canadians, lberia?
    Does Canada need to sell this oil?
    Yes.
    Is it the ethical duty of the Canadian government to protect the Canadian economy and find a buyer for the oil.
    Yes.
    Tell us who we should sell it to rather than the Chinese, lberia.
    Who is going to buy it if not the Chinese?
    Nobody, that’s who.
    The Chinese, without our oil, would not be more humane and the Canadian economy would probably collapse so you could starve in the dark and cling warmly to your imaginary moral high ground.
    Selling to the Chinese in the absence of an American purchaser isn’t a position of choice, it’s a position of necessity.
    You, lberia, would deny Canadians the necessity of having a purchaser for their oil.
    That is immoral.
    Your position, lberia, is that it is more ethical for the Americans to choose to buy Middle Eastern oil than to choose to buy Canadian oil, lberia.
    It is therefore your position that Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. are more moral nations than Canada is.
    You should move there, lberia, we really don’t deserve you.

  28. I don’t care if the people who run refineries in Eastern Canada choose to import oil from the Mid East instead of building a pipeline to the West. I don’t buy their products, it’s my choice. The fuel I use comes from Canadian wells and Canadian refineries. No goat-fornicating-terrorist oil in my tanks. The fuel I use keeps my neighbors employed, food on their table and a roof over their heads. The Eastern bastards can freeze in the dark for all I care.

  29. Hahaha, I’m not surprised you missed the point, oz, what with your twisted logic guiding you.
    My position is that the Harper government is hypocritical: the US should buy our oil because it is “ethical” as opposed to buying oil from the Saudis. Yet, we buy our oil from the “unethical” Saudis, and we want to sell our oil to the “unethical” Chinese. If the Harper Gang is so concerned about “ethics”, we should be developing our own oil for our own consumption.
    Harper used to have a moral stand when it came to China; now he has shown that like all prostitutes, he will do anything for the right price.

  30. we buy our oil from the “unethical” Saudis
    “we” who? The government isn’t buying the crude oil. As pointed out above [pay attention, details are important], where the crude is purchased from is decided by the people who run the refineries. Only a libtard socialist would believe that our government should dictate to a company how to run their business. Eastern refinery managers might be unethical, a lot are in Quebec so it doesn’t surprise me. Place the blame where it belongs.

  31. I don’t buy their products, it’s my choice. The fuel I use comes from Canadian wells and Canadian refineries. No goat-fornicating-terrorist oil in my tanks. The fuel I use keeps my neighbors employed, food on their table and a roof over their heads.
    Posted by: North of 60 at January 21, 2012 6:11 PM
    Like you have a choice…you will buy whatever the gas station sells, or you will walk.

  32. It’s “we” because when the Government of Canada gets involved in promoting for or against something on behalf of the oil industry, they are representating Canadians. Harper will soon find out how many Canadians don’t agree with the government promoting for the oil industry above all other considerations.

  33. You know, the government of Canada should just cave to the enviro-nazis and announce that in solidarity with our western brothers, all tanker traffic servicing eastern and central Canada will be banned. Crude sources supplied overland from Maine terminals will be stopped due to the prospects of spills.
    I should know, those east coast waters are treacherous, I sailed on oil tankers in those water 40 years ago and man you don’t wanna be there in a blow. Rocks, too and yeah icebergs. Ooooooh scarey!
    Have all offshore drilling suspended because it’s just too dangerous, too. We’ll just stop production from western Canada and any thoughts of pipelining any more oil or natural gas – well, anywhere. TOO DANGEROUS and someone might put an eye out and affect the level of health care in this country.
    Make you happy and warm all over Iberia and mao?

  34. Iberia is right! We should refuse to do business with any peoples that Iberia doesn’t personally approve. That way we will find out what Iberia’s price is.
    I won’t make Mao’s mistake. Here’s the /sarc for Oz and offmymeds.

  35. Like you have a choice…you will buy whatever the gas station sells, or you will walk.
    Nope, I can do a little research and see what refineries supply the stations in my area and choose for myself. Besides that, I make some of my fuel from recycled veg-oil and stale-dated aviation fuel. Only ignorant fools have no choice.

  36. even with the sarc tag on that left a dirty taste in my mouth… where’s the Listerine? Or better yet, the steel wool?

  37. It’s “we” because when the Government of Canada gets involved in promoting for or against something on behalf of the oil industry, they are representating Canadians.
    From what I can see the government is doing nothing for or against the practices of Eastern refineries. If no regulations are violated the government has no say against what private companies do.
    So, show us where the Government of Canada is promoting the practice of Eastern refineries importing crude from the Mid East. Verifiable references only, not personal opinions. The bluff has been called, now put up or shut up.

  38. What gordinkneehill said @ 5:29 and North of 60 said @ 6:01 & 6:39.
    It is becoming more apparent every day that the Marxist rat’s nest at the CBC needs to cleaned up in some way.

  39. Intelligent consumers can make informed choices about how we choose to spend our hard-earned dollars. For example I can choose not to buy Shell oil products because I don’t condone their shoddy environmental practices in Nigeria; I can choose not to buy Esso products because their shoddy management practices caused irreparable damage in Prince William Sound. I can choose to buy Petro-Can products because their stations around here get their fuel from the refinery in Edmonton. I chose to buy a wood splitter from SplitFire, a Canadain company instead of an import model from MalWart. Sure I paid a bit more, but the SplitFire unit is a much better design and my money stayed in Canada to help Canadians.
    The aggregate total of the consumer choices we make affect business all over the world. We can support Canadian industry or we can support globalization. The choice is ours.

  40. The unelected public sector now considers itself to be the official government. The politicians we elect are supposed to be their puppets.

  41. Keep in mind that if the Conservative government of Stephen Harper wanted to act on this, it`s a simple matter of a cutbacks to CBC funding. And that hasn`t happened.

  42. Meghan Leslie is my MP, sadly. She dresses like a 20-year-old – it’s quite startling when you see her face close up. (Wrewr, hiss.)
    “Harper used to have a moral stand when it came to China; now he has shown that like all prostitutes, he will do anything for the right price.”
    Posted by: lberia at January 21, 2012 6:21 PM
    Has that been your experience?

  44. For those interested in a historical perspective on why western oil is not sold in eastern Canada I suggest reading about the National Oil Policy, not to be confused with the NEP, of 1961.

  45. I turned down a donation request twice from the CPC with the comment “when you cut funding to zero for the CBC” Silence and then hangup on the other end. Someday someone at the CPC will listen!!!

  46. Black Mamba: Meghan is my MP as well. She is bright, personable, incredibly hard-working, and a good constituency representative.
    Because she is part of the loopiest wing of the loopiest party in the country, I would very much like to see her replaced as MP for Halifax, but if the last election was any indication of what is to come, she will own the seat for quite a while. In the all-candidates meetings, she made mince-meat out of the insufferably arrogrant Liberal *Dr* Stan Kutcher and the hopelessly out-of-his-depth Conservative George Nikolaou (who seldom knew even the basics of the Tory platform.
    The CPC in Nova Scotia is in a sad state; the best hope for Bluenose Conservatives is that the rest of the country will help keep Meghan as a personable, hard-working *Opposition* MP.

  47. Roseberry – she may well be a nice person. I’ve only spoken to her very briefly. I’ll take your word that she does well by her constituents; I couldn’t honestly say I follow local politics very closely for the most part. But her stand on the oil controversy is unconscionable, and she really seems to be going out of her way to make it a personal crusade. (And yeah, the other two do seem useless.)
    I realize the clothing comment was catty, but that was honesly my overwhelming impression of her the one time we met. I mean I don’t care – I’m not that b*tchy. She can dress like Carmen Miranda in a bikini if she wants. I’m just not fond of the socialist NDP.

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