25 Replies to “Poland Possesses The Largest Coal Reserves In Europe”

  1. Poland also has very large natural gas reserves that they are developing with fracking technology.
    Maybe the Russians won’t be able to hold Europe hostage with their threats to turn off the taps on the natural gas they ship to Europe.

  3. OK….I can’t resist…
    The EU energy policy, Germany’s especially, seems to be written by Don Quiote rather than by Cervantes….or is it t’other way round?
    Dreaming the impossible dream….

  4. I had read a report that the Israelis had discovered a massive gas deposit offshore Mediterrean. It was to change the ME economic order. Can you just imagine Israel shipping gas to Western Europe.
    Could be bogus as I have heard nothing since.

  5. Poland has a lot of shale gas however at the moment there is a major propaganda campaign going on against its exploitation – by Gazprom and Greens.
    BTW. that propaganda was successful in France which this year officially banned the use of hydraulic fracturing for the exploration and exploitation of shale gas and shale oil.

  6. I can’t even call this the law of unintended consequences, given that everyone with two brain cells to rub together saw it coming.

  9. McParland is wrong about one thing. Germany doesn’t get 13% of its electricity from renewables. They represent 13% of its generating capacity. The proportion of electricity from renewables is much smaller.
    What’s amusing in all this is that Poland is starting the process to build its own reactors. So not only will Germans be shutting down their lowest cost source of electricity, they will be importing at a premium coal-fired generation from Poland and more nuclear from France.
    Who’s happy about this? France. The power rates in Germany just went up, and EdF will clean up. Who loses other than Germany? Italy. They’re already buying as much electricity as France can ship them. The price for Italy’s electricity just went up as well.
    Sasquatch, the energy policies of every country in western Europe are insane except France.

  10. The biggest problem with nuclear power is the accompanying Luddite/Greens that prevent their initial construction and then their timely replacement with better technology. That Fukushima had no fatalities for a reactor of that generation is a credit to the technology as opposed to say a certain “organic” farm in Germany that killed thirty and sickened thousands.
    Isn’t it ironic, that as a result of the Green’s 40 year long war on nuclear power that Coal is still King in the US, and much of the rest of the world.
    Dittos to cgh. On this file, France is the most civilized nation on the planet (80% Nuclear and one of Saskatchewan’s best uranium customers).

  11. John, and just to add sauce to the mix, France owns one of Saskatchewan’s two operating uranium mining companies, Areva Resources.
    And just to add to France, it has a closed fuel cycle, meaning that it reprocesses all of its used nuclear fuel into new fuel, along with the used fuel of a number of other countries. And it has one of the world’s two operating fast reactors. And finally, it’s the host of ITER to demonstrate fusion.
    The world is truly stupid about energy safety matters. Number of fatalities from nuclear since Chernobyl, zero. Coal? Thousands. Oil and gas? Hundreds. Hydro? Hundreds. Renewables? Dozens.
    So what does Germany’s eight reactor shutdown mean? That Germany is the stupidest nation on the planet in energy policy.
    John, your comments about the green slime is entirely accurate. Patrick Moore and James Lovelock both predicted that the anti-nuclearism of the luddites would simply produce greater demand for coal.

  12. I think the tolerance of the Greens goes way down the first time the general public has to reset their alarms, clocks and other time pieces, due to black outs, more than once in a week.
    This green crap is tolerable right up until it starts annoying people.

  13. meanwhile, at home….
    given the track record so far…get ready for an early, vicious, winter…
    Expect your typical fall weather in the upcoming months, the Weather Network says.
    Western Canada, including the territories, “will slowly transition into winter,” while cooler-than-normal temperatures are expected for coastal areas in B.C.
    Rainy weather will continue in eastern Canada. An active storm season will mean the effects of several tropical storms will batter the east with higher than average rainfall. It’s expected there will be between 14 and 19 storms during the hurricane season, which wraps up Nov. 30. That’s up from the usual 11 storms.
    Shifting weather patterns in Ontario and Quebec means days will alternate between warm and cold.
    “Overall, a near normal fall is in store for Ontario and Quebec,” the Weather Network said in a release Tuesday.

  14. cgh – The new green Luddites will not be satisfied until there are no operating nuclear plants, coal is verboten, gas stays in the unfracked ground, and rivers return to run their natural courses.
    The logical conclusion I reach is that the energy resource that remains available after these eco-dreams come true is so diminutive that it supports the only merest fraction of today’s population living in a post-industrial society.
    If one turns one’s hand to The Grand Cull, one must operate in stealth mode, lest the cullee’s awaken, rise up, and stomp one’s pompous green ass.

  15. The world is being run by crazy,mean,stupid and vicious people.
    Also greedy!
    They will not be satisfied until the common denominator reduces all human life to it’s lowest population and the ‘earth’ has been restored to it’s pristine,”orginal” form…whatever that was, sans human beings… except for THEM that is.
    THEM being the elites who presume to dictate to the rest of us that it is better to get into a food line than farm in California if it threatens a little silver fish.
    OR if you live along the Missouri river you have to expect that sensible policies of flood control
    will be ignored in favour of policies designed to ruin your life and farm to return the floodplain to it’s pristine primordial self.
    And, if you have an easily accessible means of clean, cheap and safe energy, you must reject it in favour of some harebrained green scheme proven to be very expensive and completely ineffective.
    WHEN will we stop listening to the drivel and stop this nonsense?
    This is not a war to save the earth.This is a war on US.
    Anybody read The Hunger Games?
    (almost makes one long for a pet T-Rex!)

  16. Are the pro-nuclear folks deliberately ignoring the huge nuclear waste disposal problem? And fracking is too dangerous, it causes earthquakes and pollution and will ruin our water tables. We are facing global disasters, we must all start rationing our energy and resources, stop the politics holding back cleanups and population control, and quit sniveling about how hard it will be to live without certain things. Soon there will be no choice, Mother Nature is fed up with the human race, what good do we contribute to the planet? We have practically ruined it, we have fouled our own nest.

  17. Irene, there is no nuclear waste disposal problem with respect to science and technology and even cost. There is only the political obstructionism of greens like you preventing perfectly workable solutions from being implemented now. To use your own word, stop ‘sniveling’ and get out of the way of implementing those solutions. Otherwise the rest of us might suspect that all you greens are good for is blocking solutions to anything.
    JB1000, I would like to agree with you. Problem is, most people simply phone up to complain to their local distribution utility and rarely stick the blame where it really belongs, with Greens like Irene. Arthur Hailey’s 1979 novel Overload (he’s the author of Airport) illustrates the problem.

  18. Irene Ujda –
    May I suggest you go to a library, and research the topics of coal reserves, oil reserves, and other types of energy before posting your opinions? You are entitled to your opinions, but you might persuade a few more people if you didn’t post such utter fallacies as fracking causes earthquakes.
    You express a desire to see governments engage in population control. Are you suggesting a one child policy, or denying care to the elderly? What rights, if any, does the individual possess in your ideal society?

  19. I can’t even call this the law of unintended consequences, given that everyone with two brain cells to rub together saw it coming.
    Posted by: rabbit
    Apparently Politicians are immune to brain cells working.
    Following Obama into the darkness.
    This is a great example of why people in the past have killed their own leaders. Whom God Judges, he first gives a depraved mind.
    How long will Texans stand for brown outs by a Political token giver? Germans for the fools who made them sit in the dark?
    These people who think you can just wish energy appear are the real disaster.
    They should ditch their slogans, & do some real research!

  20. Irene
    Thanks to folks like you, hysteria pimping organizations like Greenpeace have acquired far too much cash. The “huge nuclear waste problem” you refer to has been contained thus far in two Olympic sized swimming pools for all of Canada’s reactor history.
    Yucca Mountain in Nevada has, at a cost of $13 billion dollars (paid by nuclear power rate payers), been constructed as a technologically safe, long term storage facility. Thanks to voters like you, Obama arbitrarily shut it down soon after winning the election.
    With Coal as King (sorry Irene, most people don’t consider total deindustrialization and resulting mass genocide a desirable lifestyle choice), thanks to people like you, the coal fuel cycle alone will continue killing thousands of people who would be alive if the nukes planned back in the seventies were online.
    Irene, this site has too many engineers, scientists and other professionals for the comments of someone apparently only qualified to parrot popular hysteria to be taken seriously.

  21. never mind all that..the wheels are about to fall off the ‘global warming’ bandwagon…no moonbat can go long without their puff…and at two pounds of C02 per joint, they’re responsible for more than all the cars,planes and buses put together and they’re not going to give THAT up…
    from nationalgeographic.com
    Marijuana: High on Megawatts
    Drug use can lead to dangerous addiction, crime and other societal ills, but another big downside goes relatively unrecognized: Drugs drain resources. The production and trafficking of controlled substances consumes not just money, but energy, water, and forests as well. From cannabis, cocaine, and heroin to methamphetamine and the leafy drug khat, chewed for its mild buzz in parts of Africa and the Middle East, humans’ pursuit of an unnatural high is anything but green.
    When it comes to wasting megawatts, marijuana is the greatest offender. According to a 2011 study of indoor pot-growing operations, growers in the United States use about $5 billion worth of electricity to power lightbulbs, ventilation fans, dehumidifiers, and other appliances to mimic outdoor growing conditions. That’s the output of seven large electrical power plants, or one percent of national electricity consumption, wrote Evan Mills, a staff scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who performed the study independently. Smoking a single joint, Mills wrote, is worth two pounds of carbon dioxide emissions.
    “Some commercial growers probably don’t even see the irony of the environmental damage they are doing,” said Martin Bouchard, a criminologist at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, Canada. Bouchard uses utility company records to quantify the electrical draw of indoor grow operations in British Columbia, which, like Northern California, is a major hub of pot culture and production (the province’s high-potency marijuana is known as “B.C. Bud.”) By Bouchard’s math, the average “indoor grow” operation in his city uses 210 kilowatt hours of electricity per day. That’s three to eight times the electricity used by an average Canadian household.
    This electricity drain hasn’t gone unnoticed by law enforcement on the lookout for illegal grow operations. Chris Jakim, a spokesman for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, said tracking the electricity use of suspected growers is “just one tool” the agency uses to build cases. But Jakim said many growers have gotten wise to their energy trail. To avoid detection—and sky-high electrical bills—many growers steal electricity, Jakim said. “They tap right into the main line to circumvent the meter,” he said, “which is a very dangerous process.”
    — Joseph Eaton
    Published August 29, 2011

  22. and what’s a hollywood celebrity without their nose candy ?
    no prius or electric car can offset the oil they’re shoving up their noses…..
    Cocaine: The Petroleum Connection
    For decades, academics, policy makers and environmental activists have warned that the cocaine markets of North America and Europe are fueling the destruction of rain forests in Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia. In Colombia alone, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime estimated that 62,000 hectares (240 square miles) of land were under coca production in 2010. When land is cleared for coca, the area surrounding it becomes an economic hub, in turn causing more rain forest destruction.
    But cocaine’s environmental destruction and energy use does not end with farmers clearing pristine land for coca plants. Farmers also use a number of harmful insecticides, fungicides, and fertilizers (some of which are petroleum-based) to grow the plants. Petroleum products are also a key ingredient in the process of turning coca into cocaine. To extract the drug from the plant, farmers mash coca leaves and soak the paste in petroleum products such as gasoline or kerosene. According to the U.S. State Department, as many as 85 quarts (80 liters) of kerosene are used to manufacture every kilogram of cocaine that makes its way to the street market.
    Published August 29, 2011

  23. Irene ignorance is bliss….
    Besides Canada’s puny hot nuclear waste inventory after 50-60 years….
    From cgh post..
    “France, it has a closed fuel cycle, meaning that it reprocesses all of its used nuclear fuel into new fuel, along with the used fuel of a number of other countries. And it has one of the world’s two operating fast reactors.”
    Indeed besides shutting Yuka Mountain..OBOZO has banned reprocessing and breeder(fast) reactors….actually any new reactors…
    BTW…the notorious Chernobyle accident actually proved the Greens favourite hazard the China Syndrome is a myth/fabricated fantasy.
    After the molten core had melted it’s way through the concrete it was too dilute to be critical. Chernoblye melted core now lies in the parking lot…covered by a mound of gravel.
    Fraking has been practiced for 30-40 years with no proven polution of aquefers, earthquakes or your other fantasies.
    Most of the hazard with coal is the simple, regretable fact that mining is a dangerous activity. Open pit (anethema to Greens) is the cheapest and safest.
    Your bl**dy windmills are racking up a casualty rate similar to underground mining….t’other day a guy fell off a tower—he could not fly and his air-brakes failed.
    Irene…I bet you fear “the fire that lives in the walls”….electricity.
    You are an enemy of the people!

  24. What I’ve never understood is why cannabis needs to be grown indoors? Using huge amounts of electricity to mimic the sun is simply stupid. For thousands of years cannabis plants have collected natural sunlight and converted it to THC and other isoprene based compounds so sought after by watermelons. Perhaps there should be a movement to promote “organic” cannabis grown outdoors.
    I guess I’ve got a way to go before I equal the electricity consumption of pot growers as my air conditioner and home computer network consume a mere 70 Kwh of electricity daily.

  25. Well, loki, the one time I tried it, outdoor cultivation worked wonderfully well, but since the plants at full growth were visible from the Yonge Street subway trains, it got too nerve-wracking to keep up for any length of time.

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