Now is the Time at SDA When We Juxtapose

January 9th, 2011: Giffords can open her eyes, but because she is on a ventilator she can’t speak, said Rhee.
(Oddly gone this morning) Here’s an alternate link … or here.
January 12, 2011: President Barack Obama says that Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has opened her eyes for the first time since being shot through the head on Saturday.
The president says it happened a few minutes after he left her hospital room Wednesday evening.

107 Replies to “Now is the Time at SDA When We Juxtapose”

  1. He should visit her again.
    By then she’ll do cartwheels, find another galaxy withe her naked eye, leap tall buildings,and see through concrete walls!
    OBAMARAMMA THE MESIAH, PRAISE GOD!

  2. haven’t heard the speech, but it was enough for me to see the opportunistic t-shirts, and know from the live-blogging that there was far too much cheering going on for this to be a ‘memorial’ service. Perhaps Krauthaumer et al could put the text into context: Obama was exploiting the attack on a Democrat. No feeling for the other families that lost a loved one.
    CTV comments last night were a Palin bash until a few of us commented on the pep rally theme then ‘presto’ …comments closed.
    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20110112/tucson-arizona-shooting-aftermath-110112/

  3. Knight99, thanks I needed that … those.
    I shall pass on the toast this morning.
    Quite simply, I’m amazed that you guys actually watch Obama speeches only to discover later that you’ve been HAD.
    I won’t be HAD. I GET this cat on a deeply visceral level. Listening to this cat is like going to a time share “seminar”.
    I realize this is closed-minded, but there it is.
    It’s also closed-minded to demur from engaging in “debate” with lefties. But there it is. You can’t debate with raw emotion.
    I’ve taken the measure of the man. He is a man of LOW character. I knew this even before he got the nomination.
    Damn those naive conservative praisers.

  4. ccon
    I disagree with your analysis as far as the GOP needing the economy to tank. IMO, it’s quite the opposite. A rebound in the economy will in fact be a confirmation of the GOP and the Tea Parties argument for lower taxes for everyone. The MSM didn’t do BO any favors beating him over the ‘tax breaks for the rich’ reaffirming the Left’s desire for higher taxes.
    Where I do agree with you, is the likelihood of BO serving a second term. I suspect that the American people will be loathe to give any political party a majority in all three branches of the government. I expect to see GOP majorities in both houses and BO in a second term as POTUS. In my view, that is where the smart money is.
    In the end (2016) BO will take credit for the work of the GOP houses et la Bill Clinton and so on.
    It’ll be deja vu all over again.
    Man I love saying that:)

  5. MND, I did NOT watch or listen to the speech (the sight and sound of Obama makes my skin crawl and my blood pressure rise): I had Ralph Vaughan Williams on VERY LOUDLY while my husband started to watch. The Indian grandstander was too much for him and he changed the channel.
    I’ve written Paul at Power Line, who wrote about the speech last night, “. . . in my estimation, President Obama delivered a brilliant, spellbinding, and fitting speech . . .”
    I then quoted some of my and ET’s comments on the fiasco of an event we witnessed last night. I also wrote, “You’ve also written, ‘The best thing about the evening, even better than Obama’s speech, was the news he delivered that Rep. Giffords today opened her eyes on her own for the first time since she was shot.’ Would it still be the ‘best thing’ if it isn’t true? (And, even if it were true, why should Obama get any credit? Her doctors should. I’m truly surprised that you allowed Obama a pass on his usual, crass opportunism. **) . . .
    “** Paul, are you aware that this claim by Obama is apparently a LIE? Check out this January 9th article: [I then linked an article.]
    “There’s more here than meets the eye, Paul. The words may have been OK—and I don’t even concede that. But words spoken by an untrustworthy person, no matter how enticing, are not reliable.”
    Then I saw that Governor Christie has also praised the speech! I’m dumbstruck: is there some “Let’s all get along now” meme from formerly reasonable pundits, who used to see right through Obama? If these people are going to fold their tents after one honey-filled impostor of a speech, we’re done. I’d really like to know what others here think about the almost blanket approval for the speech from these people.
    (Indiana Homez, please clarify if this name and “Spindiana” are the same person. Thanks.)

  6. Like Bluetech, I stopped any attempt to watch or read the speech or the analysis of same after seeing video of “fans” running to get good seats and T-shirts, banners and crap at a memorial service. Shallow, base and tacky just don’t cover it.

  7. Early this morning I posted a comment on the NYT Caucus Blog site with the link to the Sonoran story published Sunday that reported that Rep. Giffords had opened her eyes. It was not published.
    I think it is now safe to compare the NYT with Frazier’s Golden Bough.

  8. lookout wrote “The sight and sound of Obama makes my skin crawl and my blood pressure rise.”
    Not to mention the dozens of other derogatory and descriminatory comments about Pres. Obama and the First Lady that appear on this site on a regular basis.
    A: Looking at someone and having your skin crawl and your blood pressure rise constitutes a serious mental and/or medical condition. Perhaps you’re afraid of medicare, (among other fears that you obviously harbor,) however I’m sure the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. will see you if you’ve got $7500 US up front for a basic exam.
    B: The hatred you’re spewing serves but one purpose. To fortify the left’s convinctions that widespread hatred and negative propaganda from the right was the direct cause of Gabrielle Gifford’s (and other victims) shootings.
    C: If the tests at Mayo come back OK, and you still hate Obama that bad, why don’t you just go to Washington and burn a cross on his lawn. Then they’d have a good reason to lock you up once and for all.

  9. Time to juxtapose “W’s” Virginia Tech. speech with “O’s”. I’m sure that after last nights hootenanny there are a lot of Americans that are truly missing W.

  10. The link for the Sonoran Chronicle now does not work, but it is accessible by cache if one does a google search. Coincidence, of course.
    Imagine the howls of Shame if Pres. George W Bush did something like that?

  11. lookout, could not agree more! Obviously you understand the rigours of good mental hygiene and that each individual has a responsbility to protect it. Really, again, I’m amazed at the masochism of some folks (Erik Larsen/HuffPo, others watching and sputtering about the latest CBC outrage, and now listening to this speech). To what end? For what purpose?
    It’s not unlike staying in a dysfunctional, abusive relationship because you hope that the other person, who possesses some good qualities, may reform.
    BTW, I share your oft-expressed view of PowerLine which I consider a very adult website.
    I think many leading conservative want to be BIG.
    I think it’s a mistake to be BIG when dealing with vicious marxist thugs who’ll merely exploit your BIGNESS. I’m with Kate’s metaphorical expression “not showing up to riot” is a failed conservative policy.
    Perhaps, too, being BIG is some kind of defensive mechanism, some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

  12. Did you notice Gifford’s husband rubbing his chin after Obama said that he had his permission to share the good news – touching or rubbing the face is known as a “tell” indicating deception, clearly Mark Kelly was not comfortable with the charade.
    Yeah, this wass about the same time I was rolling my eyes and resisting throwing the remote at POTUS.
    Sick dude.

  13. good point me no d
    Before I was in the engineering/construction industry I spent my entire adult life in the service/retail industry where there is an expectation of clean and cordial language. Needless to say, this expectation doesn’t exist in the eng/cost industries. I learned very quickly that you must fight f’bombs with f’bombs else you’ll not get your point across. Unless you speak the same language as those you engage, your likelihood of successfully getting your view across is almost nil. So yes, being the BIG guy doesn’t help when you’re dealing with little weasels.

  14. MND, music to my ears (eyes?)! Yes, it seems like some kind of Stockholm Syndrome: very strange—and it seems to have happened all at once to nearly all of the usually reliable commentators, like all those birds falling out of the sky. (But I thought that Charles, Mark, Paul, Chris, and others like them wouldn’t be fooled, like the simple-minded birds, by hype and razzle dazzle.) I’d be really questioning my own instincts and knowledge, if the consensus here weren’t monumentally the same as mine. So, why are the commenters here in tune with what they’ve always said, while the public commentators seem to have taken a holiday in a faraway, politically correct land? As Yul Bryner used to say, “It’s a puzzlement.”
    An old saying: “You can’t turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse”, or how about “A leopard doesn’t change its spots”? Even IF the president’s speech seemed like a silk purse, one would think the non-lefty pundits would remember the “sow’s ear” (a metaphor, for the mentally challenged folks here) who made it: I trust NOTHING apparently altruistic that this Marxist opportunist does or says
    Rob @ 12:14: In one clip I saw, in his walkabout after the serv. . . I mean campaign rally . . . Obama hugged Mark Kelly, Giffords’s husband. Kelly’s body language—stiff and quick to end the embrace—seems to confirm your analysis that he was very uncomfortable.

  15. lookout – I agree with you; I can’t watch or listen to Obama. His manipulation of facts and the audience, his constant misinformation and his messianic evangelical rhetoric (he DID listen to the Rev. Wright for 20 years!!) – I can’t listen to such ignorance and arrogance.
    The event was a pure campaign tactic. It was not a memorial. It was an act of locating Obama among The Victims of the Right. Never mind his pablum talk about ‘not attacking those who differ from us’. Wow – that was a clear tactic of setting up a gulf, a huge division – between WE (Together WE thrive..all in blue Democrat colours)…and ‘them’.
    Did Obama, for example, two-three days ago, step in and speak against the hate-fest on the media? Nope. Not a word.
    But his speech last night didn’t refer to ALL Americans – those who agree with his socialist agenda and those who disagree. It was a clear divisive speech. WE…versus…them.
    It was a disgrace. As I said, I can’t listen to or watch him, because his blatant and obvious manipulation and messianic narcissism…is unwatchable.
    What will happen? I think that Obama is separate from the Radical Democrats who run him. That’s Soros, Pelosi, Reid, etc. Each has their own agenda, but they use Obama as their ‘hold-on-power’ so they can insert statism, or bleed the taxpayers…
    Obama himself is intellectually and ideologically empty. A total blank. His focus is only on Himself and the cheers of the crowds. He gets petulant and anxious without those cheers.
    I think that, as pointed out above, the GOP will take both Houses of Congress. Their agenda is not: Together We Thrive…which is a collectivist rhetoric disallowing questions and diversity. The GOP agenda is: Commonsense.
    And I think Commonsense will win; it’s based on reality, while the Democrat socialism is pure utopian fiction.
    Will Obama run for a second term? I’m still not sure. The point is – IF he cannot do the upfront salesmanship of the BackRoom Gang who run him..then, he’s useless to them. He, as a messiah, might get elected. But, I don’t think that the Democrats will retain power. Therefore, Obama is useless to them…unless he can return the House to them.

  16. This speech just got Obama re-elected for another 4 years. His populatrity has increased substantially and with the improvement in the US economy…
    Fox has a story out today that states that while 1 million homes were foreclosed last year it has come to light that 5 million are 2 months or more behind in the mortgage.
    Think about that, couple it with the story Kate had late last year about how all the mortgage documents were shredded and nobody can prove who holds the papers and we have a ticking time bomb that will explode this year.
    Two years is a long time in politics and it won’t be forgotten that those 6 million homes didn’t have to go under water while Obama focused on healthcare reform that very few wanted, DADT, Open Borders, and Cap n Trade to the exclusion of jobs.
    In short, Obama’s improvement in the polls will be short lived.

  17. i was channel surfing Saw the Memorial on Fox (didnt watch all maybe 5min)
    But what i did notice was that the memorial was not on CBS, ABC or NBC
    please correct me if iam wrong this was about 9pmEST

  18. lookout
    they’re both me
    i figured that my incoherent and uninformed rants are evidence enough of my sincerity. who else can make this isht up?
    I agree with ET’s analysis the the GOP will take both houses in 2012. Because of this, I think it’s likely that BO will win a second term as American’s will be weary of handing all three branches of the Fed to one party.

  19. I heard she opened her eyes right after Kim Jong-il tipped his head in her general direction after hearing about it.
    Whenever/however it happened, it is great news.
    I for one give thanks to Whoever is responsible…

  20. Here’s a nice analysis of what might be in store for 2011, by that giant among intellects, Victor Davis Hanson. His focus is on: reality.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/257010/tab-comes-due-2011-victor-davis-hanson
    “Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and both the elder and the younger George Bush all found the third and fourth years of their presidencies harder than the first and second. The nation and the world grew tired of their speechmaking. The novelty of a new commander-in-chief faded; poll numbers went south. The same thing is now happening to President Obama on a variety of fronts.
    Democrats assured voters that we would love Obamacare once the new federal health-care plan was at last implemented. Republican critics warned that we would like it even less once we saw it unfold. We will soon find out who is right, as the four-year implementation begins in earnest during 2011. But if 100 organizations and corporations have already obtained exemptions from the Obama administration, how many more will seek to avoid the new law in 2011?”
    And: “We will see a rendezvous with fiscal reality in 2011 since either Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, or defense — which together total 60 percent of the government’s yearly budget expenditures — will have to be trimmed. It is one thing for politicians to give speeches about reckless spending and unsustainable debt, but quite another to freeze Social Security increases, up the retirement age, or cut Medicare benefits.”
    Obama can give as many messianic speeches as he wants; he can claim that the dead will rise and open their eyes – just as he previously claimed that the oceans would cease to rise and peace would reign….But reality is mightier than fiction.
    I disagree with the pundits who praised Obama’s speech. As I said, I didn’t watch it because I can’t stand his abuse of Americans; but I read it and saw brief particles of it.
    Obama was in campaign mode; that’s the only mode – apart from vacations, golf, parties etc..that he can handle. He certainly can’t handle committee meetings, press conferences or debate; he famously leaves all of that to others.
    The focus won’t be, always, on Obama-on-Stage. On Obama trying to define Himself as a Victim..similar to the victims of Loughner. Obama the Victim..of Palin, of the Tea Party, of Limbaugh. Remember – Obama has been furious with all of these people; he has openly told them not to criticize him. That’s what the Memorial was about: Obama as a Victim of the Right.
    Will he run again? As I’ve said – the key to that is whether or not he is functional to the radical Democrats. His only function is: to keep them in power. He’s already lost them the House. Will he lose them both next time? Then, he’s useless to them.
    Unless they use these two years to take away more freedoms from Americans and enable the presidential power to function as a dictatorship, sidelining Congress. This has already been attempted in the Stimulus and Health Care..and Obama’s ‘executive fiat’. But if Obama doesn’t provide this BackRoom Gang who run him with their power – then, they won’t keep him.

  21. The world is upside down and, as the psalmist says, “My bones are out of joint”.
    ET, even Michelle Malkin is saying, “Good speech. Wrong time”. How about, “Good speech. Wrong PERSON”?
    Re being a victim, that idiot and traitor, David Frum, accuses Sarah Palin of playing the victim card—and that was before her address yesterday.
    We’re living in crazy times. A metaphor: black is considered white and vice versa. The centre’s not holding, folks.

  22. lookout – the speech, in itself, was not ‘on the surface’ – bad. It was ‘vintage Obama’, filled with ‘hope and change’. Is that bad?
    But when you take it apart, you see that there is nothing REAL there. Hope and change are properties belonging to the imagination, to the fictional world of the future. But we don’t live just within words. We live with the hard dust and rocks of reality. Obama doesn’t live in reality. So- his speech last night was Vintage Obama. Virtual Emotion. Just like his speeches during the 2008 campaign speeches.
    But when you take it apart, there are some niggling problems.
    First – is the positioning of himself and the audience – as victims. WE versus ‘them’. This is also basic Obama. [Shades of Black Liberation Theology; the notion of Victim is basic to BLT and Obama has been steeped in this!!!] Remember – this is basic Obama; we see this in all his speeches – when he refers to ethnics fighting against their enemies; when he talks about ‘greedy rich people’ and so on.
    We see Obama-as-victim (and by extension, any who follow him) both because of the sentence in his speech which referred to ‘We’, and his silence during the past few days when the left media was hysterically accusing Palin, Limbaugh, the Tea Party, of being morally and actually implicit co-agents in the massacre. As president, Obama ought to have spoken up and stopped this rhetoric. Instead, he allowed it to develop into a ‘truth’, and he embraced it in his speech, by setting him and those who are WE, as victims of hate speech.
    Obama said: “What we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy.”
    Wait. Who is he speaking to? The left or the right? After all, the rhetoric over the past few days was all about accusing the RIGHT of lacking empathy, of ‘pointing guns’. And, does NOT assigning blame to Palin, the Tea Party, Limbaugh, the GOP…require an ‘expansion of moral imagination’….or a careful consideration of facts and logic?
    So, it was vintage Obama. My point is that Obama did not rise to the occasion and move out of his virtual world of ‘hope-and-change’ rhetoric and into the hard world of facts, rocks and logic.
    Back in Washington, with its committee rooms, its development and vetting of policies and programs, its analysis and focus on facts and figures – all of which Obama avoids, leaving such to others…Obama’s rhetoric is irrelevant. He has ONE function for the Democrats. To win them power. If he can’t do it – he’s out.

  23. Further to note:
    The NYT editorial loved Obama’s speech; and chastized Sarah Palin:
    “The president’s words were an important contrast to the ugliness that continues to swirl in some parts of the country. The accusation by Sarah Palin that “journalists and pundits” had committed a “blood libel” when they raised questions about overheated rhetoric was especially disturbing, given the grave meaning of that phrase in the history of the Jewish people.”
    Amazing. Unbelievable. Not one whisper that ‘the ugliness’ was the relentless accusations by such as Krugman and the NYT journalists – who did NOT raise questions but instead asserted that the Tea Party and Sara Palin were the root, basic, cause of the massacre. Not one word.
    By the way – I’ve never heard of the term ‘blood libel’ being bound to references to Judaism, but I’ve heard it used a lot with reference to ethnic and religious hostilities, by one tribe versus another tribe.
    And here’s an examination of Obama’s speech by John Ziegler [supports Palin], and in particular, Obama’s ‘let’s get along’ rhetoric.
    “The genius of this line is that, technically, he really isn’t saying the shooting occurred because of our discourse (i.e. angry conservatives), but he gives a warm wink and a nod to everyone who does think that, all while invoking the memory of the dead in pursuit of a goal that no one would dare question.
    This is the Obama who scares the daylights out of conservatives, because this is the man who knows exactly what the media will let him get away with (nearly anything), and how to use that to his maximum advantage”.
    Exactly. The MSM will slobber all over his virtual world of ‘hope and change’ and not examine his setting up Himself and Democrats as Victims of ‘the far right’.
    Remember, Obama’s campaign claim that he rejected racism, polarization.etc..and yet, he has deliberately inserted racism, ethnic hatreds, class hatreds, wealth hatred..etc..into his policies. So- what Obama says, remains within words. Watch what he does and doesn’t do.

  24. ET, you’re speaking to the converted here. If he quoted the bible, I’d assume a base motive–because he’s base.
    So, EVEN if the speech “sounded” OK, it’s the person who’s delivering it who’s NOT OK: I don’t know why his apparently OK speech is being accepted by people who KNOW how NOT OK he is–and always has been.
    If he hasn’t changed–and, like you, I don’t think a narcissist like Obama is capable of any meaningful change–why is a surface thing, like a speech, seemingly giving him so much credibility in the most unusual places?
    Sign me: Confused!

  25. why is a surface thing, like a speech, seemingly giving him so much credibility in the most unusual places?
    If by unusual places you mean from status quo entrenched legacy Republicans, then allow me to point out that Sarah Palin is a threat to them as well as to the Democrats.
    They’d rather have Obama for a second term than Palin as President because Sarah represents real change and they don’t want that.

  26. lookout – Obama has managed to separate himself from the Democratic Party. And in a strange way, from political reality. He’s moved into a fictional reality – almost a church or religious arena.
    He’s been able to do this for several reasons.
    First, he’s intellectually empty; he has no policies and programs that he himself has thought up and developed. The policies and programs he promotes come from others: Soros, Pelosi and Reid, his wife Michelle. They and others form the BackRoom Gang who run Obama. Obama himself is unable to answer questions on policies and programs; he leaves that to others.
    That is, Obama has placed himself firmly ONLY in the realm of the virtual. The utopian fiction of words. That’s where he exists. Not in reality.
    We’ve seen this in his inability to deal with the realities of the Gulf Oil Spill, his inability to deal with the actual (not virtual) results of the stimulus bill and the health care bill – disastrous results in both cases. But, Obama has separated himself from these because, in reality, it was the BRG that developed them. Obama just presents The Words.
    So he’s managed to separte himself from these policies and programs…and locate himself only in campaign-style rhetoric. In a strange way, since he’s absent so much from ‘facts and daily life’ – the public, I think, views him as ONLY a preacher. As only an evangelistic preacher who comes out on the occasional Sunday to preach and then – goes away.
    Now – all that is expected of Obama is the Sunday sermon. He’s a total failure in every single aspect that involves real life – in foreign affairs, in domestic, in the economy – everywhere else.
    So – given this confinement of Obama to the pulpit, then, who/what is the public holding accountable for acting as the government? It isn’t Obama.

  27. And what is interesting and shows that this speech was a campaign speech and not a memorial is that the rhetoric of hate against the right, against Palin, the Tea Party…continues! So much for Obama’s ‘words’ to stop ‘assigning blame’. But that’s what is continuing!
    Do you think that Obama will say a word? Heh.

  28. Well, apparently this has become the new narrative. I heard several news reports claiming that Ms. Gifford opened her eyes for the first time immediately after the president’s visit. Some from the same radio stations that reported on her opening her eye three days ago. Creepy how quickly they can forget.

  29. The Youtube video Kate posted yesterday evidencing the death wishes against Palin has been taken down “…because its content violated YouTubes Terms of Service”.
    Obviously it was taken down because it is more evidence in favour of Palin’s “blood libel” claim.
    I always save this stuff to disk when I can, precisely in case of “evidence scrubbing”. Unfortunately I was too late on this one — does anyone out there know where else I get that vid?

  30. Will his request to tone it down go to reporters and members of his party when it comes to Sarah Palin and right-wingers? Ya, didn’t think so.

  31. It appears that, from now on, any videos or articles that tick off the left need to be downloaded or a screen-shot taken for posterity’s sake.
    ET: I sincerely hope your right about reality being stronger than fiction. I don’t quite know how to effectively articulate why I have some doubts, yet am hoping that time (few weeks) will bring their nation back to its senses.
    Knight99 said something akin to, and I’m paraphrasing, that while watching the memorial it seemed ghoulish; like something had been or was being sacrificed. I think that something may have been reality. Others commented that they sensed a paradigm shift. Even those who usually see through Obama have bought into the fiction he delivered last night.
    It’s like the nation is so confused that fiction or fantasy is preferable. It’s like people are scoring the political drug he is pushing and using it to numb the pain/reality of unemployment, foreclosures, assassinations, war, cold weather, oil spills, invasive pat downs & scans, attempted terrorist attacks, trillions in debt, loss of their global identity…the list goes on and on; a type of shock and awe attack has been delivered upon them.
    Again, I really hope I’m completely wrong on this one and just being a tad too worried or fearful for what type of world my children may be living in 5 years from now. Someone else mentioned Stockholm syndrome. I think that is an accurate diagnosis; coupled with mass PTSD. Time will tell.

  32. The more I see and hear about the Left’s reaction to the murders in Tuscon, and the more I see of and hear Obama’s response (I’m in agreement with you, lookout), the more I think of a horror movie: violence, blood, and guts in the slasher movies (Tuscon) and, then, the more subtle shape-changer-I-seem-normal-but-doodoodoodoo-I’m-not zombie movies (the White House).
    It seems like the U.S. has been taken over by zombies, with Obama being the Zombie-in-Chief.
    What’s happening in the U.S. is a horror show. It really gives me the creeps.

  33. THIS is what I’m talking about. Paul Mirengoff at Power Line, usually an impeccable source of intelligence and reason, in “The President’s Speech, Part Two”:
    “The conservative commentary I’ve seen about President Obama’s speech of last night has been laudatory, and rightly so in my view. For example, Peter Wehner, who knows a thing or two about presidential speeches, writes that last night ‘Mr. Obama was president of all the people [really?] and spoke beautifully for them.’
    “Pete also makes the key point that ‘the president used the occasion to essentially close an ugly and unfortunate chapter of this debate.’ In other words (mine not Pete’s), the hard left, having been, in effect, called out by Obama [really?], will now have to crawl back into its hole on this issue. And conservatives, without forgetting the outrageous attacks by the left, can move on.”
    Somehow, I haven’t come to the conclusion that “Mr. Obama was president of all the people and spoke beautifully for them”, or that “the hard left, having been, in effect, called out by Obama, will now have to crawl back into its hole on this issue”. Silly me.
    (Neither Scott nor John at Power Line have weighed in. I wonder what they think.)

  34. Paul Mirengoff—he’s Jewish—at Power Line, also wrote last night that the grieving families, who are mainly Christian, might have preferred a prayer in their own tradition. Here’s what Mr. Mirengoff has just posted at Power Line:
    Apology
    January 13, 2011 Posted by Paul at 5:00 PM
    “In a post last night, I criticized the use of a Yaqui prayer as the invocation to the memorial service in Tucson. In doing so, I failed to give the prayer the respect it deserves. Although I did not intend this as a slight to the religion or to the Yaqui tribe, it can clearly be interpreted as one. For this, I sincerely apologize to my readers, to the Yaqui tribe, to all tribal leaders and Indian people, and, specifically, to Carlos Gonzales who delivered the prayer. I regret my poor choice of words, and I have removed the post.”
    What’s going on here? It’s as if the Lefties have hacked into the computers of their opponents.

  35. lookout – the vitriol by the left against Palin, the Tea Party, the GOP continues. Just check out the NYT and go to Hot Air and check out some of the links to the left. Obama’s words – virtual as they are – had NO effect on the left.
    The left, after all, thinks that his words about ‘watch your tone’…refers only to Palin, to the Tea Party, etc, etc.
    The vitriol continues and in a strange way, the left will feel supported by Obama. He did nothing to stop their own vitriol – either before or after his speech.
    And he did nothing to stop the carnival campaign of the ‘memorial’. He ought to have stopped the cheers and told them ‘that this was not the time or place of such a reaction’. Full stop. He instead, accepted the cheers.

  36. lookout: “What’s going on here? It’s as if the Lefties have hacked into the computers of their opponents.”
    Like I said in another thread, what’s happening in the States is like a horror movie, with Obama, the Zombie-in-Chief.
    I think I’ll add the Body/Mind Snatcher-in-Chief. I’ll bet that George Soros and his legal team have something to do with this Stockholm Syndrome response by conservative commentators. Here, we have the Right being villified and writers sympathetic to the Right seeing clearly what the Progressive (sic) Left is up to and then they’re apologizing the next day for just telling the truth.
    Creepy. Ghoulish. Scary. Bizarre.

  37. lookout at January 13, 2011 6:12 PM
    The real Yaqui used to be one of the most reclusive tribes in Mexico — I know this because I searched for them some 45 years ago when I was a hippie so I could smoke mushrooms with them — couldn’t find ’em anywhere ’cause they were almost extinct.
    Real Yaquis following their “ancient traditions” in modern Tucson? Gimme a break. They’re just hippies like I was, couldn’t find the real tribe either, so they decided to pretend that they were it!

  38. From ricardo @ 4:19 p.m. today: “The Youtube video Kate posted yesterday evidencing the death wishes against Palin has been taken down . . .
    “I always save this stuff to disk when I can, precisely in case of ‘evidence scrubbing’. Unfortunately I was too late on this one — does anyone out there know where else I get that vid?”
    Yes, ricardo, it’s still up at FOX News.
    Cheers.

  39. Speaking of FOX: on Bret Baier’s Special Report tonight, no one really went after the president. The format of the “memorial service” wasn’t his fault because it was set by the University of Arizona.
    GIVE.ME.A.BREAK.
    The president is the President of the USA: what he wants is what he gets. All the details of what happens when he’s on site are vetted: if he doesn’t want it to happen, it doesn’t.
    I gather that the indomitable Laura Ingraham’s going to be on Bill O’Reilly, who always seems to provide cover for the president. If Laura doesn’t say, “The Emperor has no clothes”, well, I’m not sure what I’ll do!

  40. heh – I just watched Laura Ingraham on O’Reilly – and she said exactly what I said:
    First – she said it was clearly used by Obama and his team as a Campaign speech – the start of 2012. I fully agree.
    Second -Obama could have and should have stopped the cheers and etc last night; he didn’t.
    Third – he’s done nothing for two years to stop the vitriol by his leftist side against any and all who disagree. Nothing. In fact, he’s been part of it, with his accusations of racism in Arizona, his accusations of greedy doctors cutting off limbs, his antipathy to anyone who is wealthy (you’ve made enough); his exhorting hispanics to ‘get your enemies’.
    I note that he ought to have, immediately this week, issued a press release from the WH asking the media to STOP the vitriol. He didn’t. He ought to do it now – that it’s continuing. He’s silent.
    Fourth – the vitriol is continuing. Check out the NYT today, check out other papers. Blogs, pundits.
    And – she told O’Reilly that she disagrees that Obama was talking to ‘his left’ in his speech when he asked them to tone it down. He was referring to the right. And again – the vitriol is continuing.
    Obama is a manipulator, a pathological liar; he has no sense of reality or reference to the real world in his speeches. He says what will work..to control you. That’s his agenda: control. He’ll say whatever is needed to achieve that.
    Last night was a campaign speech. Obama used that event to portray his side as Victims…it was exactly like his ‘hope and change’ ideology where the people were ‘victims’ of Bush. There’s no change.

  41. ET, right on! Laura was MAGNIFICENT—and Bernie Goldberg was excellent too. Neither gave Obama a pass on his pro-lefty, divisive self and administration. I feel relieved to hear the truth being told. Whew!
    (Bill is a fence sitter, at best. When he began to equivocate, as he always does when the subject is Obama, Laura called him on it—and pointed out that he is soon to interview Obama. She was no-spin. Bill is all-spin.)

  42. Hannity’s just said that the president’s speech was, in effect, picture perfect–but that it altogether contradicts all that Obama has said and done up until now. Whew! I’m feeling better.

  43. lookout:
    If you go to FrontPage.com, there’s a speech transcript of Stanley Kurtz about his book Radical in Chief, introduced by David Horowitz [a former commie himself] — all about Obama’s marxist roots. It’s about 10 pages but very well worth the read.
    I mention it because in the first 2-3 pages your puzzlement about the PowerLine guys will become clear: the great hesitancy of conservatives (esp. Country Clubbers like the PowerLine guys) to see Obama as a socialist. Fears of being labelled McCarthyite, John Birch, etc. We see the same thing in otherwise smart cats like Krauthammer.

  44. MND, I’ll check that out right away. What you say makes a lot of sense. Many thanks.
    Here’s some information from Rush Limbaugh.
    His take on the polling data is very credible, I think, as are his ideas on the T-shirts.
    NB: The fact that the T-shirts have the OBAMA logo and would have been approved and the manufacture shepherded by the Obama administration, well in advance, PROVES THAT OBAMA IS NOT INNOCENT RE THE CIRCUS GOINGS-ON in Tucson.
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011311/content/01125106.guest.html
    “Oh, come on [to a lefty about the fallout after the shootings]. It was everything we knew it would be. It became everything we knew it would be, and that is attacking talk radio, attacking Sarah Palin. We knew. It was utterly predictable. I tell you, the reason why they waited as long to do this was they were waiting for polling data. The polling data shows the American people do not associate political rhetoric with anything that happened in this incident. That’s what they were waiting on. If the polling data had been different the speech would have been different, but because the polling data says the American people don’t associate political give and take, the political rhetoric in the media with what happened here, that pretty much dictated how the speech had to go. So they had to wait for the polling data to come in. That’s why they waited — I have no doubt — plus, plus, my friends, they needed time to print those T-shirts to give away at the rally . . .
    “Kathryn [Rush’s wife] and I were looking at each other with our mouths wide open in a state of shock and surprise. So I bet the first 15 or 20 minutes of this. But at any rate, the reviews have come in from all over the country, and it was a grand-slam home run. As I say, the Fox All Stars loved it. It was… Yeah, it was the best that’s ever been! In fact, folks, depending on who you listen to in the post-speech analysis, we may as well just forget the 2012 election. We may as well just start counting up the ballots right now and assuming Obama’s gonna win in a landslide because of that last night. Forget about all the rest. Obama reminded everybody why he cannot be beaten, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let’s just go ahead and admit we got foregone conclusion that there’s not a soul out there that can beat Obama.
    “This was the extent of the analysis in many places last night, and, as usual, way over the top.” Scary, but there’s been some recent light at the end of that particular tunnel.

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