Boys will be boys … after all:
Jodie Lynn Bryant was enjoying a campfire in a Regina backyard on the May long weekend when a stranger in a passing car smiled, lifted a stolen rifle and took the 21-year-old’s life with a single pull of the trigger.
Asked by his friend what he was doing, the 16-year-old murderer replied, “Oh, just having fun.”
So glad to be informed that the Long Gun Registry was doing what it does every day NOTHING to save lives
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So would it be racist to give the boy a real sentence, seeing as he’s Indian/Aboriginal/whateveryou’res’posedtocallit? Because I think it’s racist not to give him one, seeing as his victim was too. While we can all agree that the justice system should view every case primarily through the lens of ethnicity, the whole thing can get a little complicated at times.
The good news is that he’s aspiring to become “a corrections worker”.
fh – they will of course claim that this proves the Registry needs to be bigger, much much bigger.
Canada’s chosen people.
Eternally irresponsible
Forever stupid.
Not all, but a very large number.
“Justice for Jodie Lynn Bryant”.
There won’t be any justice,just the watered down “perpetrator is the victim” slush as a kind of sickly replacement.
The little bastard’s lawyer pulled out all the stops,as a good lawyer should,so we have this/another tragedy.
I wonder how this young gentleman would do on the Hare tests for psychopaths.
Who’d be surprised? The school system’s the public incubator of this “no consequences” mentality—actually, insanity.
Our kids get away with all kinds of things. With some, the bullying, anti-social behaviour escalates, as they push the boundaries further and further: no pushback from the “adults”? The by-now, misguided, dangerous thugs push ahead—and, literally, get way with murder.
We’re turning out legions of these “droogs”. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
There’s commercials running mentioning how Canada is working towards putting the victims first. Those always make me laugh.
When he gets out, I couldn’t blame family of the victim getting drunked up, lynching the little b$%#r, and then claiming, “We were just having fun.”
After a stern talking to by the tribal council I’m sure this boy will turn his life around and become a productive member of society.
Or not.
Sounds like something out of Clockwork Orange.
“Prosecutor Mitch Crumley told court the Crown would not seek to have the teen sentenced as an adult, which allows for stiffer penalties.”
Crumley (a Crown Prosecutor) should resign if he had any sense of honour – which he obviously doesn’t.
Just as bar owners are 10,20,30 % responsible for drunk drivers killing someone because they should have or ought to have known the drunk driver could kill someone (proxy responsibility), maybe the legal teams involved, including the judge, should be partly responsible for the young offender’s next crime if he commits it between his release and when he really ought to have gotten out. Maybe following the money might motivate the legal system to seek and provide justice.
It is more and more apparent that we do not have a justice system, just what has become a perverted legal system.
I do see a glimmer of hope this story. The Leader-Post report says he wants to “turn his life around”, and when these young murderers are themselves murdered by their own ilk, they are almost always said to be turning their life around.
Go easy on the young lad!
He only had a LIMITED criminal record, and he’s an oppressed minority.
The long gun registry is working perfectly well too! Since the weapon was stolen, he had no requirement to register it.
In China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, or North Korea the punishment would be much more swift and severe. Don’t you think it’s great that we have risen above these sorts of barbarisms?
I guess “Oh, just having fun” would be an equally valid (with the Left) excuse for Obama to use when asked how come he’s got US Forces and drones killing Muslims in Muslim lands, including innocent collateral casualties… “Oh, just having fun; don’t get all wee-weed up, man, buck up, y’all, let’s have a beer, man…”
So how long should be proportional sentence for Bruce Montague and Lawrence Manzer?
…after all, hey, Obama’s a “minority”, too, and he’s protected from consequences for breaking the law… we see him getting away with it all the time.
If a random “just for fun” murderer by a sixteen year old cannot be moved to adult court then what exactly is the threshold.
A parent’s suicide? I realize that this can cause behavior problems but its not a plausible excuse for cold-blooded murder and robbery with attempted murder.
Being native? Sure, because we can’t expect them to understand that killing people for fun is wrong.
I’d bet the boy has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, a disorder that is terribly common in natives on Sask. reserves and in Sask. cities. It is not uncommon to now have families in which the children are 3rd generation FAS victims/offenders.
Rather than pending millions enriching band chiefs, it would be nice to see more research into the treatment and prevention of FAS.
I agree… what good did the Long Gun Registry do here? The murderer will be back on the street in no time… and, statistics tell us that releasees often go on to do it again… and this guy will probably do it yet again with another long gun…
(s)pending.
cryptic cynic – perfect!
Latte Liberal’s think there is no such thing as ‘being responsible for one’s actions’. They also seem to believe mankind is immune to ‘moral hazard’.
Do they really believe their way is better or just a way to foster mayhem and fear so that we will beg big government to sweep in and “save” us?
“…it would be nice to see more research into the treatment and prevention of FAS.”
I understand that not getting wasted when you’re pregnant is supposed to help.
I don’t think it has anything to do with school systems or anything like that.
I think it has to do, first of all, with broken homes and parents refusing to be responsible for their kids. Secondly, it has to do with our justice system failing to realize that these kids are not normal (kids who are normal would not even dream of doing something like this). The courts need to take this into account. He should be given a battery of tests to determine whether he is psychotic or something. Now maybe this does happen but is not mentioned in the article.
“The youth aspires to a trade, possibly as a corrections worker.”
It is no longer possible to satirize this society.
When he gets out, I couldn’t blame family of the victim getting drunked up, lynching the little b$%#r, and then claiming, “We were just having fun.”
Posted by: DrD at November 27, 2010 11:57 AM
Unfortunately, That is exactly what Canadian ‘justice’ is coming to. There will be/is a point where the population says enough is enough, and the Justice ‘Industry’ be damned! And who would blame them? There is a frustration building from decisions like the charges against the shop owner that confined the habitual thief recently in Ontario and the most recent shotgun toting apprehender in the maritimes – both of whom were charged for taking the law into their own hands.
To Hell with the lawyers, judges and the cops. They are impotent for all intents and purposes. The criminals do not respect them and must fear those that they will victimize.
Quick message to the cops…’You catch ’em, we’ll deal with ’em.
Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are quite routine where FN ghettos exist. Trudeau came the closest to doing something positive in 1970 when his Indian Affairs Minister Chretien had a white paper that if implemented, would have abolished the Indian Act and moved towards the PC despised term, “assimilation”. Trudeau, known for never doing the right thing, chose to drop it. Its too bad every successive regime has chosen to continue with the same mix of apartheid and soul-destroying welfare.
I hope the newest Aboriginal Affairs Minister, John Duncan, and believe me, he knows all about aboriginal affairs, takes this on, if allowed.
So if murder is your first offense, then you get a minimum sentence. Disgusting really.
Murdering someone in cold blood just for fun is what legions of young men do to entertain themselves, for hours every day, on their computer games. It’s not a big jump for many of them, without any adult supervision or attention, to go out and do the real, rather than the virtual, thing.
‘Same with driving. Has anyone else noticed how reckless a whole lot of young male drivers are these days? They’re just emulating the car chases from Grand Theft Auto — and doing it on the 401 is a lot more fun! 🙁
Our “Justice” system, at its best. I fail to see how this kid will turn his life around – perhaps it would be better for him to be turned over to the family of his victim(s) to be taught a quick lesson.
And if anything happens, hey…”We were just having fun”.
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Yes, Black Mamba the prevention is simple but, given the FN culture, unattainable.
I remember seeing a Sask news report (CBC or CTV?) about FAS. The interviewed a some teenage native girls. In the video they were under the misunderstanding that drinking was not harmful to the baby. The other problem is that FAS girls and women do not have the capability to make good decisions. Drinking, drugs and unprotected sex and lack of parenting skills results in yet another generation of neglected FAS kids.
In hell, everyone benefits from affirmative action. You are all equally damned for killing innocent people.
Yikes, maybe my mother was a drinker : They interviewed some teenage native girls…
Every time I am exposed to a story like this I can not but think of the standard we held Robert Latimer to, and all that it entails.
“Numerous disability rights groups obtained intervenor status in the Latimer’s appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, arguing that killing a severely disabled child like Tracy is no different than killing a non-disabled child and should carry the same penalty.”
From Wikipedia
Different standards for different Canadians.
It’s bu11sh1t.
This is the kind of story that reminds me to get an FAC and sign up for the hunter’s course.
And then ask ‘bruce’ for advice.
Nothing to see here. Just a little brown person not capable of being held responsible for their actions. A sacred sweet grass ceremony will set him right.
It is more and more apparent that we do not have a justice system
– Ken (Kulak)
Not really. We have a justice system — just not justice.
Black Mamba: YES. It will be concluded that the gun registry needs to be a lot bigger! As a regulatee of some 30+ years, I can attest to the double-down penchant of government bureaucracy. It is NEVER that something doesn’t work, always that we just didn’t do enough of what didn’t work.
aureus
I think BL@KBIRD has your answer.
A sacred sweet grass ceremony before the deed, and all will be well.
It’s not what you do, it’s how you do it.
Shoot a duck with a 22 and the justice system has to set an example.Shoot an indian and get off for good behavior.The justice system just showed where they place indian women,someplace below ducks and coyotes.You need a licence to shoot those.
This young child is not responsible for his actions; we – as a supposed “caring” society – are entirely responsible. We have marginalized our native peoples and forced them to live in untold squalor and removed all hope for their future; it’s small wonder the morals of the innocent youth are corrupted by our capitalist societal greed and canadian-bred apartheid, and have led to this unfortunate’s deadly – and inevitable – blow-back response. We all need to reflect on our collective societal responsibility for this tragedy.
// delusional sarcasm filter OFF, repeatedly
The correct response is simple, really: 3.5 years in juvie, then at age 18 transfer to max security where he can spend the next 20 or so with no parole thinking about “turning his life around” as some gnarly old prison bull’s punk.
Next.
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Not really. We have a justice system — just not justice.
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at November 27, 2010 1:59 PM
I cannot recall where I heard or read it, but I recall hearing Canadian courts described, and I paraphrase, as “a legal industry, not a justice system.”
While certainly a broad brush, examples such as this would seem to lend truth to such a moniker.
About the only useless “sentence” the judge did NOT impose was a few hours in the sweat lodge.
They have a saying for these situations down south: “He needs killin’ ” … here’s hoping some other lawless Indian takes him out soon, in equally senseless fashion. Sorry, but this kind of NON-justice is what leads to complete disrespect for our “justice” system.
“He wants to walk the aboriginal path and turn his life around”, the lawyer said.
Here’s a tip: whenever you hear the words “aboriginal path” or “healing process”, what is really meant is “It’s your fault, Whitey. Send more money.”
Intuitively, I’m sure, this guy knew he was a member of a protected group and as such would face token (not totemic!) punishment in a nicer facility than the one he’s used to living in.
Great point spike 1. This is a wash, eh? The Indian perp gets extra-special treatment, the Indian victim gets sub-duck status.
Request: Can we NOT use the phrase “first nations” and its abbreviation FN. That’s buying into a bogus propaganda construct. I say Indians even when talking to them.
Speedy @ 12:16 p.m.: “Sounds like something out of Clockwork Orange.”
Great minds . . . I referenced this young murderer and his ilk as “droogs”: those are the members of the marauding gangs in “A Clockwork Orange”.
cconn @ 12:57 p.m.: “I don’t think it has anything to do with school systems or anything like that. I think it has to do, first of all, with broken homes and parents refusing to be responsible for their kids. Secondly, it has to do with our justice system failing to realize that these kids are not normal (kids who are normal would not even dream of doing something like this).”
cconn, I altogether agree about parental irresponsibility—at epidemic levels—and our failed justice system. But how can you totally exonerate the school system, where our kids spend nearly a third of their lives? Our schools, with their lefty, soft-headed, “Kumbaya” insanity, altogether reinforce the idiocy of irresponsible parents and our jaded “justice system”.
I’m very interested to know why you’re letting the schools off the hook, when the evidence is quite conclusive: they are VERY MUCH a part of the problem.
Colin from Mission B.C. wrote what I was thinking as I read the news item before reading the comments: In Canada we have a legal system. We do not have a a system of justice.
Sound suggestion MND, tribes should not be described as “nations”; I follow the same practice.
(Let’s juxtapose:
The “Boys will be boys” meme—one for which I have great empathy—was the basis, it seems, on which many here at SDA had it in for the over-reacting teacher—and she was—of the banned pencils story.
My point on that score, where I had some sympathy for the teacher, trying, probably minus any support, to establish discipline, was that, when no brakes are applied at the early and advancing stages of “Boys will be boys”—read, now, “Muslims, Blacks, Indians . . . Girls will be . . .”—the consequences can—and more and more often do— escalate to acts of sickeningly dreadful proportions:
Just like this horror story.
And the schools’ minuscule to altogether absent discipline has everything to do with it.)
There is no such thing as justice – in or out of court. ~Clarence Darrow, 1936
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our schooling “system” is a symptom of our left leaning social mores, thus it’s we the people who are at fault, we allow the lefty mentality to wreak havoc