52 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: We’re Winning”

  1. Mr. Prentice is a fine man by all accounts and certainly was the few times I have met him.
    He is also a very ambitious man – I suspect the Prime ministership was always and perhaps still is his goal.
    But another Albertan succeeding PM harper six years from now is unlikely and Canada will be a much more conservative-minded country then as well – not a good fit philosophically for the former PCer like Prentice.
    That said, he would be a fine PM.
    I wish him all the best

  2. Meh, he’s already rammed through partial back-door cap-n-tax as part of those new “let’s follow the lead of bankrupt incompetent California” fuel economy regulations. Damage done.

  3. Well AMEN & ALLELUIA!
    After the REPUBLICAN surge on Nov 2, the CO2 windbags are receding and the politcal climate will heal itself.
    Kyoto I, II & III etc are dead, Dion will need to rename his dog, carbon will go into the sequestration of your fuel tank, and all commuters will get much better mileage out of their vehicles.
    The comedians at the UN led by Mo Strong will have to get off taxpayer funded wallet dialysis, and come up with a new rip-off to fund the socialist wealth drains.
    Prentice resigned because cap and tax, CO2 manipulation etc. died on the order paper Nov 2. Prentice smart enough to see the writing on the wall jumped accordingly.
    Prosit
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  5. Dead on Hans, this clown is quite likely the illigetimate son of the illigetimate son of Joe Clark, the only way to explain the stupidity of this doofus. Globull warming is so last year, so during a void of another y2k ozone hole ice age bad week, Jim decided there is nothing else to do, the world is doomed, I did my best at believing in BS and what else is there to do. Stick a fork in Jim someone, his road show is only fitting for the CIBC, or Cun’s In Big Cesspools as they are known in our small agricultural town!

  6. My guess is Jim and the other Kyoto sellout, Gordon Campbell will find lucrative employment in a major NGO. Good ridance.

  7. bartinsky?..you got yer premiers wrong..
    please…the legend has it it’s the illegitimate son of john diefenbaker…
    who i reckon is David Frum

  8. In all fairness, with the majority of voters believing in AGW, it’s political necessary for governments to pretend to believe in it too, and to pretend to take action. Cretien was a master at that. The time comes when pretending doesn’t always work and they have to actually do something, hopefully with minimal damage. And hopefully, with the growing disenchantment with the scam, governments can soon backtrack on the whole deal.

  9. Mr. Prentice was just another dupe for the Green lobby.
    A true believer. I shed no tears for this guy.
    He has a great pension & millions waiting for him.
    This is just fact. Unless you lose in a race Politics has become the Midas road to riches.
    I wish I could say the same about the Private sector that Bureaucrats have devastated.
    The Elites will never give up on scams like this. from Y2k to an artificial gas shortages in the 70s , to Global cooling, its all the same game.
    Make Billions off of nothing but fear.
    JMO

  11. I was thinking that Prentice leaving his portfolio will allow the CPC to forge a realistic environment policy, not the one they tailored, its seems, to placate the AGW crowd. Whoever the new minister is can take another tack.
    As far as my opinion of CIBC, which fortunately is limited to this one unhappy experience, no thanks. A few years ago, they allowed someone to open a new VISA account in my husband’s name. This someone racked up $10,000 on the card in a month, all $500 withdrawals, and the bank never contacted him. They said they did, which was probably the call I got asking for my husband, saying it was CIBC calling about his VISA card. When I told the caller that he didn’t have a card with CIBC, the woman at the other end began asking the kinds of questions about credit cards that I don’t answer over the phone, and hung up in a huff when I wouldn’t answer them. CIBC never called back. (I should have followed up, but thought it was a crank call.)
    We finally got the whole mess cleared up, but it was a nasty experience, a case of identity theft, and someone we know in the banking industry had rather scathing things to say about CIBC’s “security.”

  12. Much of the fear mongering about AGW has been driven of course by predictions coming from climate models.
    It occurs to me that climate models are to climate, as editorial cartoons are to politics.
    Both represent the originator’s viewpoint, assumptions, simplifications and, by necessity, omission.

  13. Mao Stlong Lepolt.
    How many pandas you wan, Jim?
    Moi nephew, Canadian “Liberal leader” MP Bob Rae, is taking orders.
    …-
    “”It is very exciting,” Prentice said from Beijing. “Everybody loves the pandas.””
    “O Panda! Rare animals coming to Canada”
    http://www.timescolonist.com/travel/Panda%20Rare%20animals%20coming%20Canada/3754494/story.html
    “Minister of Environment Jim Prentice and his wife, Karen, visit Chengdu Panda Breeding and Research Centre, in Chengdu, People’s Republic of China, July 4, 2010.”
    http://www.timescolonist.com/travel/3754495.bin

  17. @
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North
    Very well put and very true!!!
    @Gord tulk
    Jim prentice i beleive is a good man ,last year i was at the kuri baraks here in calgary for rememberance day service . The man has a good heart his dedication and pride in our troops and our military and all of the boasting he did braught tears to my eye’s (i was not the only one) he told of a story about how canadians rescued sicily or somewhere very near italy or some part of italy ,he told of how to this day our memeorial there above all others is kept so immaculate and it is visitied more than anyother memeorials in on and or around that area becasue of the courage and the stregth the canadians showed in destroying the nazi’s ,and rescuing so many people there to this very day it is not lost on those people and those stories are told over and over and passed down from generation to generation , he spoke about visiting there and being completeley shocked at how well kept the memorial was kept . Any way that was something that i will alway’s remember about jim prentice
    besides his pandering to the eco fascist’s ,it never fail’s to amaze me how people have good heart’s and yet they refuse to stand up and defend what is good right and just mr.prentice showed alot of courage by stepping down we need a more suitable replacment for him some one more to he right .
    Anyway that is my two cent’s

  18. Gord Tulk nails it in the first comment. I’ve spent a little time with Jim Prentice and he is indeed a fine Canadian who served his country well. Jim Prentice was caught in an impossible situation. The fact is, Canada’s economy is more dependent upon the USA for trade than is China’s economy. Almost 40% of everything produced here gets sold to the USA. No country in the world leaves itself that vulnerable to one buyer. That buyer has had in place the anti-trade Obamarx gang determined to feed its union base and the Climate Change religion with cap and trade.
    Canada (Jim Prentice) had no choice but to go along with de facto saying we would match whatever the USA did on climate change because otherwise the border would be blocked by the Obamarx gang as they tried to implement cap and trade. Our goods would have been held up at the border. Prentice was caught between a rock and a hard place on the environment file. Hopefully now with the restraining order on the Obamamarx gang in place, this file will become less politically toxic.
    Prentice is a bright and capable guy; he’s served his country well and deserves to make a little money in the fall of his career. Good luck Jim Prentice and thank you.

  19. Another Red Tory (Liberal) bites the dust. If he takes over from Stelmach that will either finish off the Alberta PC’s or Alberta.

  20. “Prentice’s decision to leave federal politics has many speculating whether he’s setting himself up to take a run at Premier Stelmach’s job.”
    Might as well make it a twofer since he jumped on the AGW wagon just as the wheels were coming off.
    ‘In all fairness, with the majority of voters believing in AGW…yaday,yada”
    And what has the government done to address the stunning ignorance of these voters?
    Nada.
    We have here in Canada some of the world’s most potent climate skeptics in the persons of Tim Ball and Stephen McIntyre plus the tax funded CBC.
    There is no excuse for David Suzuki to be a household name with his own bully pulpit while these men are virtually unknown in Canada.

  22. No questions about it, Jim Prentice is one sharp dude.
    Sadly, in my view he is a Joe Clark type Red Tory and the environment portfolio was the clue to his mindset.
    I suspect he read the tea leaves and the direction which the Conservatives will be taking and did not suit his liking, ergo, Jim opts to leave.
    No great loss to the Conservatives, only the lefties in MSM are bleating for Jim.

  23. Gord Tulk: “Mr. Prentice is a fine man by all accounts…”
    He may be, but he swallowed the AGW Kool Aid, so I’m not crying at the news of his departure.

  24. Dirtman, I don’t think a “majority” believe in AGW. It’s the other way around. Trouble is, it’s still not politically wise to come clean on that file.

  25. Gord, I’ve dealt with several of the big banks over the years, and CIBC, by far, was the worst. None of them are too keen on customer service, but at least the tellers and other staffers still manage to smile once in a while.

  26. “”Mr. Prentice is a fine man by all accounts…”
    Mr. Prentice was a big AGW booster which shows he isn’t a fiscal conservative and he also voted for SSM every chance he got so he isn’t a social conservative either.
    One is left with the impression that Mr. Prentice isn’t a conservative at all, regardless of his position on our troops, and that Mr. Prentice is just one more Liberal who ran as a candidate for the CPC because that’s how you get elected to office if you happen to live in Calgary.
    Principled?
    I don’t think so.

  27. Oz, Joe Molnar and Louise are right. Progressives, even if nominally conservative, are easy to convince to raise taxes. I’m glad he is gone, as after experiencing Joe Who and Mulroney I have no use for “Progressive” Conservatives.
    Furthermore, hopefully Stelmach gets replaced by Wild Rose.

  28. Nomdeblog, I must correct you: . “Almost 40% of everything produced here gets sold to the USA. No country in the world leaves itself that vulnerable to one buyer.”
    The correct would be: “Almost 40% of everything produced here gets sold to the USA. Every other country in the world would love to be next to the largest market in the world in order to boost their output by 40%.”
    The fact is if we lessen our exports to the US, we will lessen the standard of living of all Canadians.

  29. Now I need to correct myself.
    For the math geeks, “boost their output by 40%.” should be “boost their output by 66.66%.”
    Also “lessen the standard of living of all Canadians” is in correct. Of course it would affect onloy those in the private sector, and doubly so. Those who work for government would be unafected.

  31. What the hell does being a “fine individual”, reference to Prentice, have to do with anything? If you are wrong … you are wrong. Nix the “nice guy” crap already because it has no impact … none … on how well a person does their job and how right or wrong they are. In fact, in tough times, you don’t always want “nice guys” running things.
    To add to Kate’s “We are Winning”:
    Lisa Heinzerling is gone.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/05/epa-official-who-pushed-co2-regulation-resigns/

  32. There may well have been things that Prentice was obliged to do with regard to his job as enviroment minister however. Going camping with David “I’m greener than you” Suzuki was not one of them!

  33. Dirtman @ 2:28 am says..
    [In all fairness, with the majority of voters believing in AGW, it’s political necessary for governments to pretend to believe in it too, and to pretend to take action.]
    Panasonic throws in with Tesla with 30 $Million to begin with. Toyota joins in as well.
    greentechmedia.com/articles/read/panasonic-invests-30-million-into-tesla/
    Governments can’t ‘pretend’. It’s now a case of play along or get squashed.
    In Canada, Frito Lay saves 8 to 9 $thousand per year per Smith Electric truck now made in Kansas City.
    Fleet Executive Magazine

  34. Trudeau was a “sharp dude ” too.
    doesnt change my opinion of his leftist bent.
    adious Prentiss.
    skid his rig.

  35. I told this quick story the other day but it seems to fit the “We’re Winning” heading.
    During an AGW debate at work the other day, I said to the lone AGW supporter that “Global Warming is dead. It’s settled!” to which he said “but…” and I promptly interrupted with “It’s settled!” which ended the conversation, and left the Warmer standing there looking like a deer in the headlights. I LUV IT!

  36. One need only look at the fawning coverage by the entire Canadian media establishment to confirm Prentice was no true blue Conservative.
    If he was he would be labelled a failed quitter.
    The media is already setting up the narrative of Prentices advancement and endorsement of the AGW file as a blunt instrument to beat his successor with if he/she veers off of Prentices pro AGW path.
    Harpers position is no different than Prentices on AGW, yet the media treats Harper as if he is a liar on the file.
    But Jim Prentice saying the same things is a wonderful guy – because they know Prentice is a committed progressive.
    We saw the same thing with Belinda Stronach.

  38. I have to disagree with you, Kate, about including Jim Prentice in this list. He is the latest in a long line of Canadian actors talking big about Climate Change while doing the minimum possible. Almost all of what he said about the file was for the benefit of outside antagonists even as he raised my ire by saying it.
    He did a good job. Especially given that nearly the entire Environment Ministry is in the tank about AGW, CC, CD or whatever it is called these days.

  40. Rick “The fact is if we lessen our exports to the US, we will lessen the standard of living of all Canadians.”
    Exactly! Which is what Prentice was trying to avoid by stalling and/or playing along with the Obamarx gang until sanity prevailed in the US. He could not show his hand and say that stalling was what is doing; he just took the punishment for not doing enough by liberals and doing too much by most comments here on this blog.
    It’s a no win, which is why capable people don’t get involved in politics. Trying to manage a fundamentalist religion like AWG in the face of our MSM and progressives who number about 60% of Canadians is a job that only a masochist would want to do.

  41. If PrentISS and the Kanadian gov’t had done due diligence and bucked the world trend they would be hero’s. Throw in educating the masses to the true facts, and they would be gods, they just played politics.
    and as far as being conservative, half the Dems south of the border are farther to the right than most of our conservative politicians
    the politicians should have stood up to the rest of the world on the AGW file, and offered to shut the oil spigot off if fools like Hussein Mobama had protested to much

  42. BGJ is entirely correct. Prentice managed to do several virtually impossible things for the CPC during his time at Environment. He largely kept climate change from becoming a focus issue for the opposition. He managed to get Canada through two COP conferences without having to agree to anything of significance. And he managed to keep oil sands developments going.
    He took on Environment with some reluctance. He was happy at Industry and wanted to stay there because of his views on the need for high technology development. He’s one of the few ministers Industry has had since Manley who really understood the file. But Harper asked him to take on the highly sensitive Environment post, and like a good soldier he did.
    Environment requires a high degree of political skill these days to manage. She may be bright and articulate, but Ambrose simply couldn’t cope with either the politics or the ministry itself, and Baird projected too combative an image.
    Remember, Prentice was effectively the deputy prime minister, chairing as he did the cabinet operations committee.
    What too many of you forget is that it is actions that are important, not rhetoric, as Obama is learning to his cost. What did Prentice actually achieve? With a world, and a truckload of domestic ENGOs, government departments and opposition parties clamouring for action on climate change, Prentice managed to avoid having Canada committed to anything of consequence. As a defensive action, it was superb. He’s probably been the most frustrating Envt Minister the ENGOs have ever had to deal with.
    nomdeblog, he did manage the file effectively, which is why Canada is committed to nothing today and why Cancun next month is already a dead issue. Quite simply, the global economy has sucked all the oxygen out of the issue. Story counts by the media have fallen off a cliff compared to where they were this time last year.
    GYM, read your second line again, have another cup of coffee and grow up. The business of ‘turning off the spigot’ was shown to have failed in 1979 with the failure of the second OPEC oil embargo. Where have you been for the last 30 years?
    Peter, there’s no need to do anything about Cancun. It’s already dead on arrival. Like every UN process it will simply drag on year after year for the next several decades, becoming less and less relevant.

  43. “Exactly! Which is what Prentice was trying to avoid by stalling and/or playing along with the Obamarx gang until sanity prevailed in the US.”
    Remember, the Weimar Republic basically structured German society for what later came about.
    All it took was the right man and party to exploit what was just sitting there waiting for them already giftwrapped by the previous government.
    Assuming the CPC was going to drag their feet on implementation, and I don’t buy it that they were because they did nothing even passively to explode the myth of AGW, just imagine what could be done with Prentice’s work on the Environment portfolio if the wrong government took the reigns of power.

  44. The major problem remaining in regard to AGW is the US EPA. Let’s hope that the
    US House of Representatives reconstitutes the House Un-American Activities Committee and sets it on EPA.

  45. “.. there’s no need to do anything about Cancun. It’s already dead on arrival. Like every UN process it will simply drag on year after year for the next several decades, becoming less and less relevant”
    That’s foolish. There are millions of ways to exploit AGW into whatever they want because of the complexity of climate. Those UN fukkers have an army of dopes the world over.

  46. GYM, read your second line again, have another cup of coffee and grow up. The business of ‘turning off the spigot’ was shown to have failed in 1979 with the failure of the second OPEC oil embargo. Where have you been for the last 30 years?
    Posted by: cgh at 2:44 PM
    30 years ago China, India, and Brazil were not industrial entities to be reconed with. These are just three countries who now demand a lot of energy (oil) that were non issuse 30 years ago. Much had changed in thirty years and most of that change relates to a huge increase in demand for oil, both in the USA and outside it. 30 years ago I worked in the plastics industry and supply was no problem, now there is a lot of off shore plastics being produced, this allows for cheaper labour AND increase in product supply, as it has become increasingly harder to aquire in north america. So, yes, turning off the spigot will have a huge effect. Try keeping up!!!!

  48. Prentice = Progressive
    Do we need to remind ourselves that before there was the CPC (initially pushed towards the “freedom” side of the ledger by Reform Party of Canada, but gradually lapsing back towards the mushy, no prinicples middle) there was the “Progressive” Conservative Party.
    Prentice (originally from northern Ontario) and Stelmach (from agricultural Alberta) are both very much of this “Progressive” heritage. A heritage essentially distrustful of individual freedom, free market capitalism and more of a populist, government should control things mentality (NDP without saying so).
    Calgary Herald reporting today that recent mayoralty losers, Rick McIver and Barb Higgins, apparently both considering a run at Prentice’s MP seat. Don’t currently live in the riding, but wondering if any other SDA fans would be interested in buying an interest in a house there to give about 5000 of us a say into who might be the first “Tea Party” member of the CPC. This could be our “shot heard around the world”. Let’s do it.

  49. Nonsense, GYM. The number of sources of oil supply today is far greater than it was 30 years ago. That’s why OPEC has been so completely ineffective over the past two decades in setting oil prices. Yes, demand is up, but diversification of source has increased enormously. Which is why the world has larger oil reserves per capita today than 30 years ago. So your proposed strategy is nonsense. You also have to get around the fact that Canada would have to violate a slew of international and bilateral treaties in which to do it.
    What’s this nta? Are you pushing the ‘pure laine’ line? Suggesting there’s ‘real’ Albertans and then the fake imported kind? My, my. Next you’ll be climbing in with the PQ/BQ. There is of course no argument more bogus than one based on who makes a statement rather than on its substance. It’s called ad hominem, and you’ve just self-identified as a practitioner right up there with the worst of the green slime.

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