Juan Williams has been fired by NPR.
Cable news blogger Johnny Dollar red-flagged NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik’s Twitter feed, which announced tonight that liberal NPR analyst/Fox News contributor Juan Williams’ contract was terminated — over comments Williams made about Muslims on The O’Reilly Factor. He gave his honest opinion: “[W]hen I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.”
Guess who stirred up the pot to get Williams fired?
More: NPR – where the “P” stands for “Plantation”.
ANOTHER UPDATE: Reader Dale Beihoffer writes: “According to the NYT story on Juan Williams, ombudswoman Alicia C. Shepard said that Juan was a ‘lightning rod’ for NPR, noting that ’she had received 378 listener e-mails in 2008 listing complaints and frustrations about Mr. Williams.’ Your readers should be able to do much better than 378 emails to her!”
Just 378? Heck, I think we can manage that many ourselves. Click here to complain that Ombudsman Alicia C. Shepard should be fired for her illiberal position on the Juan Williams controversy.
Don’t tell me even some liberals are waking up? I happened to have been watching O’Reilly when Juan said this.
NPR? Oh, “National Pyorrhea Radio”? I’ve heard of it. Some sort of marxist front.
Juan Williams was always much too civil as a civil rights veteran for today’s bloodthirsty young reds from rich white families.
Hope he does a number on them, they deserve it.
Sad… very sad. I don’t often agree with Juan – in fact I can’t think of a time I did, but he has always been an articulate, rational and knowledgeable leftist. He was someone who you could have a discussion and agree to disagree. Most leftists today can’t even disguss issues, it’s their way or you’re a rascist no matter what you are talking about. What is interesting though, is that NPR is a largely very white, very leftist organization and it saw fit to fire a black man who did not follow their prescribed opinion. Further, it seems to have been instigated by other radical white liberals at Move On, Huffington Post and other socialist organizations.
The video is here from Breitbart: It’s only about 1.20 in all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAfGKVK8PyE
Ah…better retitle that post as:
THE INTOLERABLE ACTS OF CRUELTY
You know they are only reptiles…snakes in the grass and all that.
Prosit!
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
The rats are eating their own, as the Obama boat sinks.
As Jim O said, he is someone you could have a discussion with and agree to disagree. In the long run, dismissing Juan will prove to be NPRs big mistake.
Interesting he got fired for speaking truth to power…he articulated what everyone does but is afraid to say because of the power of political correctness.
Great. Now the progressives are cannibalizing themselves.
Juan is a progressive but God bless him for saying what he thinks. He can now wear this as a badge of honour like Canadians do for not being voted into the UN Security Council by Islamic despots who don’t like us.
Will this turn Juan into a neo-con? A liberal mugged by reality.
I can hardly wait for NPR to fire the next person who says evangelical Christians make them nervous.
Addendum to my above post – should the ACLU now force the government to defund NPR. NPR has established Islam as their official religion, and the only one to be protected in the organization.
NPR is just a taxpayer and Soros funded extension of the Democrats. Note what the bios at NPR says about their CEO:
“Prior to joining NPR, Vivian Schiller served at The New York Times Company as Senior Vice President and General Manager of NYTimes.com.”
A sample comment at NPR: “Steve Swope wrote:
They hired him for commentary, to give opinion and he was fired because they disagreed with his opinion. They can afford to hire someone to replace him with the big donation from Soros.
October 21, 2010 8:57:48 AM
The rules are so consistent.
“If you were in the presence of a man having a heart attack, how would you respond?” The Daily Caller article began. “As he clutched his chest in desperation and pain, would you call 911? Would you try to save him from dying? Of course you would.”
But if that man was Rush Limbaugh, and you were Sarah Spitz, a producer for National Public Radio, that isn’t what you’d do at all.
In a post to the list-serv Journolist, an online meeting place for liberal journalists, Spitz wrote that she would “Laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out” as Limbaugh writhed in torment.
On a somewhat related topic:
Calgary just elected a new mayor who is Muslim.
Is it a fair question to ask this legislator if he favors having sharia law?
Am I anti-Muslim by even bringing it up? Did any journo ask him this question during the election? Should they have?
back and forth, back and forth, back and forth the propaganda war goes on.
I’m waiting for the main event to happen and then the responses from the great shouldacoulda crowd.
Gord Tulk it is a must question.
There is a Muslim candidate running in my riding whom I support because his answer to that question was very satisfactory.
Exactly Greg, they ain’t fired anyone over at NPR for saying the Tea Partiers scare them.
Double Standard.
Gord Tulk – of course the Calgary mayor should have been asked the question of his commitment to Sharia law. Why?
Because it is an authoritative dictum – preached from the majority of mosques over the world – that Islam is universal and that its laws (Sharia) are universal and must be installed everywhere. Therefore, one has to ask a Muslim seeking political office if he follows this belief. Again – why?
Because Islam is less a religion and is primarily a social and political ideology, prevented from open questions, analysis and change, by defining it as a religion and its axioms is ‘religious beliefs’ and outside of the realm of debate.
Most religions, after all, have a great deal to say, not about the metaphysical…which is really all that religions can deal with…but they have a great deal to say about the social, political and economic relations that people have with each other. This is valid within Judaism and Christianity – and heavily within Islam.
The problem with Islam is that these sociopolitical beliefs are defined as ‘straight from the mouth of god’ and are deemed immutable. Furthermore, since Islam in my view emerged as primarily an economic ideology in reaction to the loss of land from expanding economic settlements of Christians/Byzantines/Romans…then, Islam self-defined itself as universal and militant.
So, you have a belief system that sets itself up as outside of the realm of reason and thus unable to adapt.
Furthermore, these beliefs of universality and the use of violence and war to achieve this goal are preached in mosques all over the world. Therefore, we have every right to ask the campaigner if the plans to follow this ideology.
And Juan Williams is also right to be fearful of the agenda of Muslims whom he meets in public. Do they follow these axioms? After all, it’s locked into their belief system; it’s preached in mosques and publications and by followers everywhere. The rejection of this belief is rarely heard. So – Williams is right.
Juan is the most cordial leftie on Fox, if the intelligent moron Lamont Hill can say the things he says, why can’t Juan. Accelerating his learning curve, is a great line, and this will become a “teachable moment” for other teetering leftie retrievable people, they know what is on this side of life, but they have no idea, because of their blind stupidity to history, what is on the other side. Lenin Pol-Pot Hitler are never far away from a leftie like Soros’s objectives.
There is a Canadian Parellel…..CBC….Librano snivel servants in Justice…..Environment…
There is a rising lefty desperation south of the medicine line.
I wonder how FoxNews will introduce Juan Williams in the future? Bartinsky is right when he said “Juan is the most cordial leftie on Fox”.
George Soros seems to be the defacto power behind the presidential chair in the White House and the bank account for every Marxist NGO in the US. I wonder if he also is financing the left here in Canada?
Well, yeah, his comments were inappropriate. It’s like saying that the sight of a black person on the street makes you nervous and treating that like some sort of enlightened cultural critique. What he said was an admission that he distrusts a group of people based solely on religion… now if he had said that about Jewish people, everyone would rightly be incensed.
ind- you are being superficial. Your analogy of ‘black’ vs ‘Muslim’ is meaningless. You are ignoring the ideology of ‘being a Muslim’.
The facts are that Islam has publicly declared, via its authorities (imams in mosques, political leaders) that its ideology (and again, Islam is less a religion than it is a sociopolitical ideology)…is universal and must, I repeat, must be accepted worldwide – by force if necessary.
It has moved beyond rhetoric with its massive attacks on civilians and governments around the world. All such attacks have been claimed as based, not in ‘personal idiocyncrasy’ but as guided by the agenda of Islam. All such attacks have been carried out by Muslims declaring that they are acting within their ‘religious agenda’.
It is naive of you to ignore the facts. I suggest you read the Qur’an and hadiths for their agenda, and also, research the preaching of the imams, insisting on a violent implementation of universal Islam.
I love this. Friendly fire amongst the enemy, Muslim now trumps Black-and-liberal, its -awesome-.
I can hardly wait to see how the DemocRat spin machine winds itself into a topological nightmare trying to sell this to the ACORN crowd.
Jeeze, I wonder if any of the MSM will have stones enough to ask Barry what he thinks of this? That would be hilarious!
Calgary’s new mayor is an Ismaili muslim, from a wonderful community of immigrants and refugees who are well-integrated into Canada. The Ismaili women I have worked with are outstanding people, well-dressed, classy, cool and calm, genuinely superb individuals, and their ethnic community is very charitable and active. Perhaps the finest immigrants Canada has been lucky enough to receive and they fit right in, perfectly.
No doubt they are seen as major apostates by mainstream Islam and I don’t doubt Imams regularly preach in favour of their genocidal slaughter in mosques across Canada, but Calgary’s new mayor’s religion is of no concern to Calgary’s young modern well-educated population, and it never will be.
Calgary’s population has moved way beyond the moribund and degenerate culture of places such as Toronto where race and religion are mainstream public obsessions.
ind, Islam is more than a religion. It is a theocratic belief system in which there is no separation between mosque and state.
We miss the point entirely when we look at Islam as though it were the same as Judaism or Christianity in that context. Those foundational Western faiths, while stressing the religion-based foundation of Western morals and ethical precepts, do believe in separation of faith and state.
Islam does not and sees religion, society and government as one seamless continuity, forcibly governed in all aspects by Islamic precepts and law.
So:
If it is legitimate to ask nenshi about whether he agrees with sharia then why didn’t anyone ask him about it during the campaign? (to the best of my knowledge no one did)
I would think it possible that he would have lost regardless of how he answered:
– had he said yes he would have lost a huge amount of support obviously
– had he said no he would have lost a very important part of his Muslim base and with it the relatively small margin that he won by.
– had he waffled it would have dogged him campaign-long and he would still lose much of his non-Muslim support.
Regardless, I think it is something of a scandal that no one in the media has yet to ask him this legitimate question.
(it is not like this is without historical precedent: stock day was asked about creationism, Romney about his Mormonism, and kennedy about his Catholicism – to name just a few.)
ind, I love you man/woman/transgendered-other. You go fight the good fight! Go say this on Rabble!
I should tell you though that you’re going up against Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition. Jesse said it was impossible for a Black man to be a racist, and he’s the go-to guy for race-card related bidniss. Jesse also said seeing a Black man at night made -him- nervous, so Juan Williams is on pretty firm ground racially speaking. Jesse said it, it must be so.
You’re calling Jesse’s mojo into question. That’s like tugging on Superman’s cape dude. Sure you wanna go there?
Also you should know that JOOOOOS! are not known for blowing up airplanes and stuff, whereas the same cannot be said of Muslims. What is a slur when applied to the JOOOOOS! is merely a description when applied to radical Muslims.
Yoptvoimat;
I too have met many Muslims in Calgary (and elsewhere) who are as you describe (several are clients of mine). But I have also met and dealt with many in Calgary who are very much fundamentalists who dress and act in a fundamentalist way and support sharia. The point is nenshi (and anyone else) cannot have it both ways – he should have been asked. As ET has well argued, it is a legitimate question.
An addendum to my comment above.
This NPR-Juan Williams firing is a classic example of left wing hypocrisy about “diversity”. Superficial diversity -race, gender, sexual orientation, handicapped, whatever- is fine and desirable. BUT, REAL diversity, intellectual diversity is forbidden. A “progressive”, aka liberal, must be in lockstep agreement with all of liberal secular theology or he/she is an apostate, an enemy. This is obviously a deeply fascist mentality.
Juan Williams’ remarks showed a non-PC view of Muslims, making him an apostate, to be expelled from their society.
Well Bill will likely be covering this story tonight on The Factor . . . it should be fun.
Wonder if Beck will stop jabbing SorryassSoros for a day and take on Juan’s case.
Add to the remarks about being a Muslim or a Jew. A Jew is a nationality, bloodline, clan and tribe. Their DNA can be traced and tracked.
That is not the case with Muslims. They are any nationality which is chooses to believee the tenants of the religion / sociopolitical belief system.
As Juan said in his piece, he gets nervous when he sees somebody identifying with this belief system by what they wear…first, that is what makes him nervous.
The spin on this issue would make one of the best amusement park thrill rides of the century!
Posted by: Greg at October 21, 2010 8:14 AM
There would be no one left by the end of the broadcast day.
I’ve rarely agreed with anything Juan Williams said. But he was always a poised and thoughtful commentator and on the few occasions that he filled in as an interviewer he was excellent — I dare say one of the best. He asked the hard questions of both conservatives and liberals and kept up a respectful pressure until they answered without the annoying in-your-face interruptions that make most interviews so tedious to watch. If he’s fired from NPR, he should get a regular spot on FOX. I’d be a regular viewer.
glacierman – I beg to differ. A Jew is not “a nationality, bloodline, clan and tribe”. Judaism is not genetic; it can’t be found in any DNA. It is not any ethnicity; it is not ‘racial’.
Judaism is a religion. It can be by choice (conversion) but it is primarily passed down SOCIALLY by the matrilineal line; that is, if your mother was Jewish, you are deemed, SOCIALLY, to be a legitimate member of the Judaic peoples. But this is not in the DNA! It’s a social bond.
Yes, Judaism can thus be defined as tribal because of that kinship bond – but the bond is social not genetic. People convert to Judaism; people convert out of Judaism.
Islam has some similarities with Judaism except that the kinship bond is via the male side, it is patrilineal. But, like Judaism you can convert TO Islam. Unlike Judaism, you cannot leave it; you are considered apostate if you do so and deserve death. It is not genetic or ethnic or national.
Christianity is completely different; it is by choice. You must be ‘confirmed’ and thus, Christianity is a religion based around the individual who reasons and chooses a certain belief system. Thus, it was the first non-tribal belief system.
Again, Judaism is not in the DNA. The Third Reich thought it was – but it’s not true.
ET,
There are DNA attributes which is how they identified lost Jewish tribe members in Africa. They were practicing Jews, but black. That was done by DNA, so your assertion is mostly right, but the DNA factor is still there. Pick your pill, blue or red!
I also agree with the willful choice and conversion, to any religion.
I predict Juan gets his own show on FNC, he is an excellent guest host on O’Reilly. Although his views differ from mine, he has a real knack for balanced interviews and excellent questions.
It always sucks losing a job, but in my own life experience, I have found that you will always come-out the other side in a better place. After all, how great can things really be when you’re not wanted at your place of work? This is an opportunity Juan, pick-up the ball and run!
Uh oh.
Where’s Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? Where’s NAACP?
Media Matters?
ACLU?
*chirp *chirp
Williams will be hosting The O’Reilly Factor tonight, and Laura Ingraham said she will turn over her guest-host gig to him as well.
glacierman -any genetic similarities were due to isolation of the communities in the ME and Africa and a low rate of intermarriage with others. That is, the genetic factor was to a biological population not to a religious identity.
Again, Judaism is not genetic. What is being genetically traced is population migration and movement. You can do the same with any isolate collection of people where some members migrate, and set up new populations who retain some of their basic ideology.
Where is Jesse Jackson on all this?
Jesse Jackson once commented, “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
Jesse Jackson asserted a relationship between race and crime. Does that make him a racist? Will he be banned from NPR?
They’ve closed the contact area, for “maintenance.”
The ombudsman site is now under maintenance. Hmmm?
Political correctness (PC) strikes again. This time the left eats one of their own, even though all Williams does is state a personal opinion, which is based in fact.
Fact 1: as ET correctly points out, Islam is a social-political belief system wrapped in a religious veneer. Its tenets are immutable, as they are the words of God, and are to be applied universally, by the sword if need be. The killing of infidels is sanctioned by the Koran.
Fact 2: Muslim adherents have a demonstrable history of terrorist activities, including plane hijackings and bombings.
Ergo, his opinion is that when he comes across someone who identifies first as a Muslim at the airport, he gets nervous.
It’s a classic philosophical argument, in the logical sense. It’s a conclusion directly reasoned from factual premises.
However, unlike the left which bases its beliefs not on reason or logic, but on feelings and emotions, William stepped outside of the proscribed PC agenda. Williams is truly an endangered species: a modern day liberal who uses reason and logic. We may not agree, but we can have a respectful discussion.
Juan should replace Heraldo on FoxNews.
Heh, yep, looks like they can’t take the heat.
Huckabee wants NPR’s funding cut over this.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/21/huckabee-calls-on-congress-to-cut-npr-funding/
What a ****storm. I don’t think they get what they’ve unleashed. People are ticked about this if US talk radio is any indication (hosts and guests)…
Those comments over at the HuffPo article are truly disturbing. The way liberals obsess about race is amazing.
Posted by: Yoptvoimat at October 21, 2010 10:35 AM
Splendid little post there Yoptvoimat. J Kay has a piece up at National Post along the same lines: about the Ismaili muslims, who, if I’m not mistaken, are valid targets for slaughter by Al-Queda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Ahmadeinejad, and the Saudi Wahhabists. They are infidels like us.
Juan Williams is the old-style liberal of the type that has almost disappeared from public view. Paraphrasing Black Mamba on another subject, he’s a non-insane liberal who you can actually debate with, engage with productively. I like him while hardly ever agreeing with him. He was a strong supporter of Obama, but, er, Condi Rice has also recently defended the Marxist thug.
“Calgary’s population has moved way beyond the moribund and degenerate culture of places such as Toronto where race and religion are mainstream public obsessions.”
Among other items that Trawnafolk consider when meeting you: who’s your daddy, what school you went to, what part of town/province/country you came from/live now, what clotes you wear, the car you drive, what do you do for a living, just where in the social pecking order do you sit, so that I can either – dismiss you as beneath my contempt or use you to advance my own social status.
This busy-bodiness that is endemic to Trawnafolk, nah Southern Ontario folk, creates more divides in our society and builds few bridges. Sorta like the uber-WASPS stirring the pot so that the untermensch have something to fight about on Saturday night.
Stick a great big windmill right in downtown Rosedale, plus Lawrence Pahrk and see what happens. Plant a few right along the waterfront condos POV. Watch the WASPS hum.
Get some beer and popcorn and sit back.