Mark Steyn:
I try to be a sunny the-glass-is-one-sixteenth-full kinda guy, but it’s hard to overestimate the magnitude of what the Democrats have accomplished….
Mathew Vadum:
America suffered an atrocity of catastrophic proportions last night and it’s not clear if the nation will ever recover.
David Horowitz:
The President was right about one thing. The vote on Obamacare tonight was a historic one. The Democratic Party has…revealed itself to be an anti-democratic Party and an anti-liberty party. It is a party that has demonstrated its contempt for the Constitutional framework, for the democratic process, and for the expressed will of the American people. Its brazen contempt for the compact that holds the diverse factions of this country together has initiated a political war at home that will extend not only into the next elections but into the next generations….The people of this nation are still sovereign, and their voice will be heard. Tonight’s vote was lost but it is not the end of the battle. It is the beginning.
From the “Idaho Health Freedom Act”, passed last week:
The power to require or regulate a person’s choice in the mode of securing health care services, or to impose a penalty related thereto, is not found in the Constitution of the United States of America, and is therefore a power reserved to the people pursuant to the Ninth Amendment, and to the several states pursuant to the Tenth Amendment. The state of Idaho hereby exercises its sovereign power to declare the public policy of the state of Idaho regarding the right of all persons residing in the state of Idaho in choosing the mode of securing health care services.
It is hereby declared that the public policy of the state of Idaho, consistent with our constitutionally recognized and inalienable rights of liberty, is that every person within the state of Idaho is and shall be free to choose or decline to choose any mode of securing health care services without penalty or threat of penalty.
The thread is open for your comments, quotes, links, etc.
Anybody from the US know the answer?
EBD at 4:24 pm,
15. The government will extract a fee of $2 billion annually from medical device makers. If you are a medical device maker what you will pay depends on your share of medical device sales in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the medical devices in the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2 billion, or $200,000,000. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for (Research and Development)? Tough. (Section 9009 (b)).
The same applies to those who manufacture medicine, so who want to bet that a lot of them will move to India or some other “cheap labor” country to avoid paying this Healthcare tax?
This is bad in at least two ways:
Less healthcare taxes collected means the people have to pay more/ for a longer time,
less jobs in the USA so less people can pay for Healthcare…
Economic meltdown down the road?
Very likely…look at how successful the Democrats were with their idea that poor-jobless people should be eligible for a mortgage and should own a house…
Call me crazy but I think Obama wants healthcare to go bankrupt, because when there is a crisis that is when the government can best grab more control.
It is all about manufactured crisis, or the Cloward Piven Strategy.
To make Capitalism fall you overwhelm the system and then you take control and install socialism.
I highly recommend this piece,
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=1878
I think that the Americans who voted for President Obama did know they were voting for a more socialist future, EBD, indeed, I think that those who did vote for President Obama did so explicitly because they do want (to some degree) a more socialist future.
ACORN has managed to have many illegals vote.
When Obama was ACORN’s lawyer he fought hard to change laws so that almost anybody could vote without any ID.
There is more to this story but I read so much I can not remember where or when I read about it, but one thing is sure; Some illegals are able to vote in the USA.
Actually some of the 19 terrorists on 9/11 were registered voters in the USA…
Ron Paul on health care and rights.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/281590/Healthcare-Is-%22Not-a-Right%22-and-Obama's-Plan-Will-Cost-Way-Beyond-1T-Ron-Paul-Says?tickers=%5Edji,%5EGSPC,pph,jnj,mrk,pfe,unh
Ron Paul is a doctor.
Anybody from the US know the answer?
Set: It is not legal for non-citizens to vote here. That is the law. Now, is the law enforced? To the degree that non-citizens actually vote is something that probably does happen on the order of any other identity-type theft. As to actual amounts: I do not know but I suspect conspiracy types will exaggerate the number.
http://article.nationalreview.com/428863/five-reasons-not-to-despair/rich-lowry?page=1
And Vit, while some who voted for obama voted for a socialist future a significant number did not. If obama got 54% of the vote and currently 59% do not want Obamacare (CNNs number) then only 41% favoured it. Assuming all of those 41% voted for BO in 2008, 13% did not want a socialist america.
And as Lowry notes in the above link there are reasons not to despair. If the vote goes the same as obamacare (a distinct possibilty in 2010 and at this early date in 2012) then the Congress will go 65/35 GOP/DEM and the senate will be very close to 60GOP. In 2012 BO loses every state in the union if he gets even close to 41% (and i can make a pretty good case that his numbers could well be worse in 2012 than 41%).
Obama campaigned as a bi-partisan-minded centrist, Vitruvius. During the campaign he guffawed at those who suggested he was a socialist, portraying the accusation itself as ridiculous. On the matter at hand today – the passage of Obamacare – he specifically gave his assurance during the campaign that no American would be forced to buy health insurance under penalty of law.
ET, your comment was really excellent.
I am hoping that it is in the DNA of most Americans to not want to have a system of Rulers and the Ruled. This goes to the heart and soul of the Republic.
The photo of Nancy Pelosi strutting to Capital Hill before the vote, like some Queen on her way to rule the people, said it all.
We must hope that the ordinary citizen will get fired up like never before after what happened this weekend.
Certainly the leftists have tried everything they can to purge Americans of their love for freedom and independence. A calculated and intentional strategy.
Got many friends in the US, and I hope they now roll up their sleeves, fight like hell, and get their country back.
America as the World centroid of freedom died today. Expect massive immigration pardons forced through the ex-peoples Congress & Senate.
While their President spits in the face of a Nation embracing the forms of tyranny while making friends with evil.
China & Iran. The USA’s new best friends will make sure of that.
I expect a lot of people who where planning to move there will not. While their best will do what Canadians have had to do for a good living. Leave this socialist paradise (If your a politician that is).
JMO
And you’re suggesting the electorate believed him, EBD? I doubt it ~ they’re smarter than that. They made a conscious selection between two choices based on generic considerations, one of which is that the pendulum is swinging a bit to the left of the isle in the U.S. right now. Later, it will swing back the other way.
I don’t fully agree, Gord. That statistically the U.S. electoral norm has become less enamored with President Obama since the election does not necessarily imply that those who are in favour of (to some degree) more socialism have changed their mind on that matter (yet). Changing one’s mind on a how does not necessarily imply that one is changing one’s mind on the what.
I’d like to make one thing clear here though, lest I be misunderstood. I like government to be as small as possible. I would not have voted for Mr. Obama. I don’t think yesterday’s result in the U.S. was a good result. Nevertheless, I’m more interested in what is going on there than I am in what the ideological, on both sides of the isle, think should be going on there, or what the soothsayers purport to predict will be going on there.
mouth 7:37: “Whatever you have done for the least of these, you have done for Me”
The case here would be: “Whatever you have been forced to do by Rome for those it deems ‘least’ and for the various bureaucrats assigned to monitor, document, collect and enforce your ‘charity,’ you have done for Me.”
Swell Christian you are!
Vit, many of them voted for the narcissist because of the negative characterization of Bush that had been so carefully cultivated and nurtured by the media. The narcissist was a Democrat, Bush was a Republican, that was enough for some voters to make their decision even though Bush was not running.
Some of them voted for the narcissist because he is black, and white American’s have been told for decades that they were racists – and voting for the narcissist was perceived redemption for sins (they did not commit), either conscious or subconscious.
And yes, some of them also probably voted for him because they wanted a more socialist future.
specifically gave his assurance during the campaign that no American would be forced to buy health insurance under penalty of law.
Posted by: EBD
lol well understated. Like his word actually means something. How many times has he lied about almost all he Say’s already folks? Than throw people away, like disposable razors when inconvenient to Hiself?
His lies are legion. Thats not opinion, its fact.
Vitruvius – Words are just words. What I find fascinating are actions. The “Benishek for Congress” facebook page started with about 400 friends yesterday … Benishek will be running against Stupak in November. I’m guessing he has picked up 1/2 – $1 million in his war chest in the last 24 hours.
That is how these things are decided.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=share&gid=287806148754
No time to read the comments, but I’d like to add my 2cents:
I have to agree with BO.
Politically speaking, it was imperative that this bill was passed “By any means necessary”. I believe the political fall-out would have been much worse for the Democrats otherwise. JMO
I do take issue with the rhetoric coming from BO that this bill is a “compromise with the Republicans”; it’s not! This bill is a compromise internally within the Democratic party. Fortunately for BO, I believe the complexity of this analysis it above the head of the average political non-observer.
So, Khrushchev was right.
All I can say is that the idea of mandating citizens to to buy health ins by law with the penalty of being fined if one does not is like mandating homeless people to pay rent and then giving them a fine if they don’t. In my view, BHO has done to the American people what Tiger fantazized of doing to Joecelyn James in those nasty text messages.
No-one:
People below a certin income will get HC for free.
And the number of people who will show incomes below that number will explode…
Gord, let me guess, the poverty level where one gets free insurance is earnings of $5,000 – $10,000 per year.
The only good thing I see coming out of this monstrosity is that Chretien Martin and the Liberal Party will not be able to run against American health care.
The Black Avenger has taken away the Liberal Party’s only definition of being Canadian.
Roughly three-fourths of the American people are against this health care measure. With this many Americans against it, its fate is still somewhat unpredictable.
Right now every child born in the United States is automatically in debt $42,000. The massive debt being piled on top of this figure could send individual debt to an astonishing level.
Moody’s has already said that massive American debt will force them to downgrade the American bond level from AAA. This will cause interest rates to jump about 4 points as the US has to offer more interest to get people to buy a less valuable bond. Mortgage rates, already under water, will be hit even harder. And the ability of America to service its debt can only happen by severely chopping the military and raising taxes to an astronomical degree.
Of course those of you living in Trudeaupia know all about this, and have long since been living with the cataclysms that it creates.
If several more states join the present 35 or 36 in lawsuits against the US government on constitutional grounds, it can force a constitutional crisis.
The numbers involved rise to the level of a constitutional convention where new measures would have to be hammered out as a provision in the constitution.
No-one:
If memory serves it is a percentage of the national average – somthing like 35,000 per year for a single person and 50000 for a family.
The numbers you gave gord are probably correct, but even at those income levels buying insurance will be a burden for many families and I agree that this income bracket will certainly explode.
I can’t help but think that the Americans are walking straight into a well planned trap. Drudge has a story about several threats against the American president, if the hot headed ppl are foolish enough to act on their anger – martial law and the Citizens Army BHO wants to institute will not be far behind.
Found this on the web – it’s hard to agrue against the logic:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/05/AR2009110504327.html
“Obamacare’s nasty surprise
Fewer insured, higher costs might be the result”
key grafs:
“Consider: 27 million people are covered by health in$urance purchased directly, i.e. outside employer-based plans. The average cost of an in$urance policy with family coverage in 2009 is $13,375. A married couple with a median family income of $75,000 who choose not to in$ure would be subject to a fine of 2.5 percent of that $75,000, or $1,875. So the family would save a net $11,500 by not insuring. If a serious illness occurs — a chronic condition or a condition that requires surgery — they could then buy in$urance. Since fewer than one family in four has annual health-care costs that exceed $10,000, the decision to drop coverage looks like a good bet. For a lower-income family, the fine is smaller, and the incentive to be uninsured is even greater.
The story is similar for single people. The average cost of an individual policy is $4,800. An individual with earnings of $50,000 would face a fine of $1,250 and would therefore save $3,550 by not insuring.
The situation for the 176 million people who get their in$urance through employer-based plans is more complex. To simplify, let’s look at a family in which one adult earns $50,000 and receives the family plan that costs $13,375. Employees typically pay about 25 percent of the premium cost, or $3,340. The $10,035 remaining cost is deductible by the employer and not taxable to the employee. So the total net cost to the employer of this employee’s compensation (taking into account the payroll tax and the corporate tax deduction) is $41,509. The employee would receive the $50,000 minus his part of the health in$urance premium, or $46,660 as pretax income.
If that employer stopped providing in$urance, he could be subject to a fine of 8 percent of payroll, or about $4,000 for this individual. But even with this fine, he could pay a cash wage to the individual of $53,605 and still have the same net cost of $41,509 (because the cash wage would be subject to the 7.65 percent payroll tax and the combined amount would be deductible at the 35 percent corporate tax rate.) The employee’s pay would therefore rise from $46,660 to $53,605, an increase of $6,945. That would be subject to income and payroll taxes, leaving a net increase of $4,677. Even after paying the 2.5 percent personal fine on his cash income of $53,605, he would have additional net income of $3,337, a substantial rise for someone who started with pretax income of $46,660.
In short, for those who are now privately insured through employers or by direct purchase, there would be substantial incentives to become uninsured until they become sick. The resulting rise in the cost to in$urance companies as the insured population becomes sicker would raise the average premium, strengthening that incentive. ”
very sobering – chaos would soon ensue and then a government monopoly.
I suspect that the Dems had a very accurate guage on the US voting moods/habits long before that last election.
1) The desperate emphasis on firearms legistlation.
2) Neapolitano’s specifying returning soldiers as a security threat.
3) OBOZO’s stated goal for a civilian security force funded and equiped as well as the military.
They are well aware of:
“For when democracy becomes tyranny, those of us with rifles still get to vote” — unknown
the junior senators state is broke, now on to the feds.
http://bigjournalism.com/rtrzupek/2010/03/22/as-america-trots-down-the-same-doomed-path-chicago-tribune-notices-illinois-is-broke/
Yeah, keep pulling that bible verse out mouth/bleet. Every time you do, you clearly show that you don’t understand the meaning of it.
Have you been to a Canadian hospital lately? They don’t look good, Larry. They generally have people waiting in ambulances outside in the parking lot, because ER can’t take them right then. They have no right to -buy- access to a private ER either, so they wait in the ambulance and often they DIE in the f-ing ambulance, in the parking lot of the hospital. Often.
Oh, come on. Often?! Often?! You wouldn’t care to substantiate that piece of hyperbolic nonsense with any facts, would you? I live very close to York Central, and I’ve had to visit Emergency four times in the last two years, and I’ve never seen an ambulance waiting to discharge a passenger. I’ve seen plenty of people wheeled past me while I was waiting, right past the triage nurse, and directly into critical care. I read every copy of the local newspaper – published three times a week – and I’ve never read a single story of someone dieing while waiting in a corridor, let alone an ambulance.
So, please, if you’re going to indulge in such bombast, do us all a favour and post some references, or kindly STFU. Thank you.
Yes, quite, KevinB, also per my 5:37 “shoot off their mouth” supra.
Various reactions:
From BigGovernment.com…
Morgen Richmond:
“The Democrats finally found an enemy they were willing to commit whatever it takes to defeat. Unfortunately for them this enemy was the American people. While I agree with those who assert that this bill will be difficult to reverse, this nation achieved its greatness only through the steadfast refusal of patriots to surrender to the forces of tyranny and oppression throughout our history. Let there be no mistake, in enacting this legislation the President and his allies have chosen the path of tyranny. By resorting to back-room dealmaking, the blatant payoff of special interests, and every legislative contravention imaginable, Democrats have set in motion the largest seizure of power by the federal government since the New Deal, if not our history. All at the expense of personal liberty and free enterprise, and against the clearly expressed will of the vast majority of Americans.
“But this bill will not stand…”
>Jon Voight:
“This past weekend I was proud to be part of ‘we the people’ who came down to Washington by the thousands to voice their American rights and freedom to say ‘no’ to what we all knew would change our great America into a socialistic America. With this Obama health care, we will now face extreme hardships in every way and Obama is now more dangerous than ever.
“His ego has been fanned and he will stop at nothing to try to pass the cap-and-trade bill and he will force all union members to openly sign their votes. We must never forget this blatant and dangerous arrogance by President Obama and Speaker Pelosi and every Democrat leader that voted for this destruction of our great country.
“Let us put memos everywhere to remind ourselves to vote all of these socialistic extremists out of office this coming November and thereafter…”
Yes, KevinB, I guess the over-the-top remarks of one particular commenter in a lengthy comments thread is the real important issue supra.
I’m glad you’ve had good experiences in Emergency, but your experiences don’t obviate the experiences of others. My mom, who is 87 and has Alzheimers, became brutally ill last fall – she was puking non-stop, disoriented, and couldn’t stand. We arrived at the hospital at 11:15 am, registered, and…waited. She didn’t get to see a doctor until just before 4:30 pm. It’s only five hours, I know, but it sure seemed a lot longer than that.
Anyway, I’m glad you’ve have good experiences. Good for you.
Regarding the situation in the US, David Solway shoots off his mouth at PajamasMedia:
“As a Canadian, I am fully aware of how presumably rational and literate people can elect utter poltroons, nullities, and incompetents to political office. The Liberal prime minister from 1921-1930 and 1935-1948, William Lyon Mackenzie King, thought Hitler ‘might become one of the saviors of the world’ and that ‘Kristallnacht might turn out to be a blessing.'”
“Some PJM readers might ask themselves why a Canadian is so preoccupied with American politics. For one thing, America, as we used to say back when, is ‘where it’s happening,’ for how America goes, so goes the world. Additionally, the immediate political and economic fate of my country is ineluctably tied to that of the U.S. We have the same enemies, our militaries are integrated through NORAD, we share the longest undefended border in the world, we buy property, visit, and vacation in one another’s lands, and of course, under the provisions of NAFTA, the U.S. is Canada’s largest trading partner. If America implodes, we go down the tubes with it.
“…I have grown increasingly distraught when I consider what the American people inflicted upon themselves (and the rest of us) by electing a president on a dream and a catchphrase — a man with a dubious leftist background, with no relevant experience apart from serving two years as a junior senator, with little in the way of detectable credentials, boasting a CV with major areas blacked out, who enjoyed the mentorship of impenitent America haters, and who promised to ‘fundamentally transform’ a country that didn’t need to be transformed, only responsibly governed.
“The current American president is arguably the gravest mistake the American electorate has ever made and one it may not survive intact. It will inevitably come to regret its decision.”
Randy E. Barnett of the Cato Institute:
“Can Congress really require that every person purchase health insurance from a private company or face a penalty? The answer lies in the commerce clause of the Constitution, which grants Congress the power ‘to regulate commerce . . . among the several states.’…
(…)
“The…mandate extends the commerce clause’s power beyond economic activity, to economic inactivity. That is unprecedented. While Congress has used its taxing power to fund Social Security and Medicare, never before has it used its commerce power to mandate that an individual person engage in an economic transaction with a private company (emph. mine). Regulating the auto industry or paying ‘cash for clunkers’ is one thing; making everyone buy a Chevy is quite another.”
More reactions today, these ones from BigGovernment.com…
Morgen Richmond:
“The Democrats finally found an enemy they were willing to commit whatever it takes to defeat. Unfortunately for them this enemy was the American people. While I agree with those who assert that this bill will be difficult to reverse, this nation achieved its greatness only through the steadfast refusal of patriots to surrender to the forces of tyranny and oppression throughout our history. Let there be no mistake, in enacting this legislation the President and his allies have chosen the path of tyranny. By resorting to back-room dealmaking, the blatant payoff of special interests, and every legislative contravention imaginable, Democrats have set in motion the largest seizure of power by the federal government since the New Deal, if not our history. All at the expense of personal liberty and free enterprise, and against the clearly expressed will of the vast majority of Americans.
“But this bill will not stand…”
Jon Voight:
“This past weekend I was proud to be part of ‘we the people’ who came down to Washington by the thousands to voice their American rights and freedom to say ‘no’ to what we all knew would change our great America into a socialistic America. With this Obama health care, we will now face extreme hardships in every way and Obama is now more dangerous than ever.
“His ego has been fanned and he will stop at nothing to try to pass the cap-and-trade bill and he will force all union members to openly sign their votes. We must never forget this blatant and dangerous arrogance by President Obama and Speaker Pelosi and every Democrat leader that voted for this destruction of our great country.
“Let us put memos everywhere to remind ourselves to vote all of these socialistic extremists out of office this coming November and thereafter…”
Good luck getting invited to any of those Hollywood parties, Mr. Voight…
EBD – those are excellent comments. I’d like to ask about the analogy where a govt mandates anyone who owns a car to have ins. for it – and this new health bill, which seemingly mandates that anyone must purchase health ins.
Could the legal argument declare that IF the car ins is mandatory, THEN, the health ins is legal? A KEY, a MAJOR difference is that, to my understanding, car ins in the US is the legal domain of the STATES. Not the federal govt.
So, the legal argument could be, as seems to be the situation now, that the federal govt has no constitutional right to make health ins. mandatory and if a state opts out, that’s its business.
But, couldn’t the Chicago thugs set up a situation where….oh, I don’t know at the moment, my mind doesn’t delve that far into corruption, but..
Absolutely, ET, but the key difference isn’t about federal vs. state domain but rather about choice. You’re only required to have automobile insurance if you actually own a car, which is a personal choice; if you don’t have a car, you’re certainly not required, let alone under penalty of law, to get car insurance. What the recent legislation mandates is that if you have a body – I *know* – you will be *legally* required by the federal government to purchase a service from a private business entity.
Btw, don’t worry about your, erm, delving activities, because you’re honing in on the mark. At the point when the federal government requires you, under penalty of law, to “engage in an economic transaction with a private company”, it’s not only a dead certainty – a requirement that will be deemed justifiable, in an act of logical circularity – that the government will not only be entitled to regulate – to pick and choose – which businesses “qualify” to operate in the field, it will also ensure a future right for the government to subsequently swoop in and nationalize these businesses and place them under the aegis of the government.
Gray – Bismark may have introduced health care to Germany all those years ago, but a few years later, Hitler emptied the hospitals, rest homes and asylums.
EBD it seems the word “insurance” made it through the filters dozens of times, and why shouldn’t it? Just asking, is it a dirty word around here?
Larben, my advice was incomplete, in retrospect. What catches in the spam filter is any combination of the word “insurance” and a link, i.e. the “aich-tee-tee-pee” designation. Ditto for “mortgage.”
Yes, exactly, EBD, I see your point. That would indeed be the logical step for Obama-statism. Of course, it would drive the private companies out of business.
Is there any precedent for the federal govt to mandate that a citizen purchase a commodity or service? Is there any legal precedent?
Couldn’t the statist govt say that taxes are a mode of requiring that citizens purchase, for example, security-care, i.e., the police, the military (municipal and federal govts in these instances). And fire-protection care, and so on. So, the legal argument would be that health care is comparable to security and fire care, and that therefore, all citizens must contribute to this service?
I’m trying to figure out Obama’s thugs are going to deal with the state legal objections. I’m sure that the Obama gang has already prepared for the states filing legal objections, so I’m wondering what the federal argument will be. Certainly, Amendment 10 of the constitution is a key in the arguments of the States. And Section 8 of the Constitution clearly says nothing about health care as a federal mandate. Therefore, I’m wondering how the federal Obama thugs will argue in court?
EBD:
I call “shenanigans” when I see shenanigans. I’m tired of all the BS from both sides. Lord knows there’s enough facts out there without making up complete horse manure.
“Therefore, I’m wondering how the federal Obama thugs will argue in court?”
See my comment above regarding the 16th amendment. It is effectively a tax code change. Taxes are undeniably constitutional. If you can prove you have suitable health insurance, you pay federal income tax “X”. If not you pay federal income tax “Y”. End of argument, and quite possibly end of case.
Ian in NS – yes, the 16th amendment gave the federal govt the pay to tax income. BUT, it didn’t give the federal govt the power to spend this income on health care.
Health care is not a task of the federal govt, according to article 8 and is thus a property of the states, according to amendment 10.
And I don’t see how it would be legal to tax someone at a certain rate, dependent on whether or not they have health care insurance because, again, such a task is not the business of the federal govt.
ET, the American Supreme Court famously ruled that a farmer growing his own grain on his own property for his own consumption fell within the purview of the Interstate Commerce clause. So take that, add the 16th, and the General Welfare clause, and I’m convinced the courts won’t significantly negate this beast.
The 10th is toothless. If it actually meant anything entire federal cabinet departments wouldn’t exist (energy, education, HUD, etc).
Ian in NS – do you mean the marijuana – which did not cross state lines, was not bought or sold, and yet, was regulated under the Commerce Clause?
So, since people expressly want to purchase health insurance across state lines, then, according to the Commerce Clause, this DOES come under federal jurisdiction.
The Commerce Clause, Article 1, Section 8, says that the federal govt “has the power..’to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states”. So there it is. As you point out, this negates Amendment 10, because health insurance purchase is a ‘commerce’.
This means – Obama wins.
Ian, there’s a key difference between what the Supreme Court ruled on in the case you cite of the farmer who grows his own food for his own consumption falling under the Commerce clause, and what was legislated yesterday.
As Randy Barnett of the Cato Institute put it, the health care legislation “extends the (Constitution’s) commerce clause’s power beyond economic activity to economic inactivity.” I doubt the Supreme Court would rule that a farmer is required under penalty of law to buy a particular product from his neighbour.
The commerce clause has never been used (until now) to “mandate that an individual person engage in an economic transaction with a private company. Regulating the auto industry or paying ‘cash for clunkers’ is one thing; making everyone buy a Chevy is quite another.”
Obama will use the passing of this bill to get to Cap and Trade and Amnesty allowing all the illegal aliens the ability to become citizens without having to be deported and re-entering the country, thereby ensuring a huge voting block. In addition there have been and are movements afoot to replace ALL Secretarys of State in each state with a democrat ( you know how that works.) Everybody’s vote counts and the SOS allows dead people and ballots found in the trunk of cars way after the election. Ignoring election fraud just as obvious as the Black Panthers outside of the voting district in PA. Obama does not plan on being a two term president. He plans on being a one term president and that term will be for life. The Health Care bill is just one vehicle to bring him closer to his goal. This fight must be fought or America will no longer exist as a representative republic.
To read here the animated discussions regarding this issue you would think we here in Canada enjoy a superior position on the issues of Health Care. We do not. The American people , once they were alerted to Obama and who he really is and what he is doing have made it their business to engage. Tea Parties sprang up and they marched on Washington 1.7 million strong. They have called, e-mailed, written and brought themselves to Washington time and time again. They have been ignored and now they are beyond outrage. Obama is not worried. Everyone thinks that the election in Nov. will settle things. Obama knows better. Once they surround a neighborhood and cordon it off, nobody gets out. This is what they have done to the American people and they think they have it all sewed up. They are wrong and underestimate Americans. I do not believe Canadians could be roused to the level that Americans have already exhibited. We just sat on our haunches and let Trudeau ruin this country and thumb his nose at us while he did it and then told us all to “Fuddle Duddle” . If the libs get the chance they will do it again and double down on it because they have seen what Obama can do and will want to capitalize on it. It has already started. Look at how Ann Coulter is being treated on the University Campus and by the liberal press and how the discussion on Abortion being included in the G8 discussions on funding for third world countries. Yes, folks, the libs and ndp’ers think our hard earned money should fund abortions in other countries , too. And what do we as citizens do? Absolutely nothing.
After the euphoria of the Olympics and the national pride exhibited you would think there would be folks very clearly telling the libs and nippers to pound sand but we just let them go on with their inane and idiotic nonsense. Why do we put up with the likes of a Libby Davies or a Jack Layton.. oh, wait… Pelosi and Biden… nuff said.
We would never , as a people across this land march on Ottawa for the reasons Americans are mad as hell and marching on Washington. We just take it in the ear and keep on trucking.