MP Keith Martin wants the March 25 CHRC hearing opened to public;
“I think it speaks to the fact that the tribunals themselves have to be examined, writ large,” Martin said in a telephone interview today from Parliament Hill.
On the 25th, commission staff, as well as a frequent complainant, will be cross-examined on whether they have used assumed names to plant hate messages or entrap other posters on websites and message forums under investigation.
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“We can’t let the commission go on as it is now,” he said. “The issue is much larger than 13.1,” he said, describing his motion as a mere “springboard” to examine the CHRC. He hopes that a thorough examination of the federal commission will prompt provincial legislatures to look at their own legislation and commissions.
Ezra Levant has more on the complaints racketeers;
My feelings towards human rights commissions, especially the CHRC and their busiest customer Richard Warman, have curdled as I’ve learned more about them. Before I started researching the matter, I thought it was simply a matter of philosophical disagreement about where lines should be drawn between what’s merely “offensive” and what’s an actual “crime.” But I don’t think that’s our real difference. Our real difference is that I believe in the rule of law, and giving even those we despise natural justice. When push comes to shove, the CHRC and its courtiers don’t. They believe in what Warman has called “maximum disruption”. Warman says he likes tussling with his foes because it’s “fun”. But that’s not justice. That’s harassment. We’d be distressed if we heard a policeman saying he was motivated by how much fun he has arresting people, or using his Taser. Same thing should go for the human rights industry.
I first had a flash of this when I saw the videotape of Richard Warman campaigning against his nemesis, David Icke. That’s where I saw Warman giggling gleefully with his co-conspirators as they talked about physically assaulting Icke, and “humiliating” him.
I felt it again when I read about the outrageous ex parte attempt by Warman and his enablers at the Canadian Jewish Congress to block foreign websites from Canada. That application was properly dismissed by the CRTC, but the very fact that Warman and the CJC though they could — in a hearing with no opposition invited — set up a system for blocking 33 million Canadians from surfing where they want to surf, shows the true character of the people we’re dealing with here.
It’s time to get the ball rolling on this in this province – where even welfare recipients have successfully abused the commission process to reap windfall cheques over perceived insults to their economic status.
I’ve actually known about the lack of due process, the harassment, persecution, and punishment of law abiding Canadians—usually Christians—for some time. However, like Ezra, I had no idea just how corrupt the Human Rights (sic) Commissions really are.
Ezra Levant has done us all a great service by using his innate curiosity and lawyerly skills to get to the bottom of the “black lagoons” that are Canada’s HRCs. The skullduggery in which they’re involved—to the point, it seems, of actual criminality—is mind boggling. And what’s even worse, it seems to me, is that those involved actually thought they could continue to behave in this despicable way—and get away with it.
I have no doubt that the Richard Warmans and Dean Steacys of this world are hardly bothered by the immorality—and possible illegality—of their actions. They would, however, be quite perturbed about GETTING CAUGHT. In the deconstructed, relativistic bubble of the West’s “progressive” societies, it’s the getting caught that’s the no-no, not the unacceptable behaviour.
And, in this case, unlike that of Governor Spitzer, who spent his own money, it’s the Canadian taxpayer who’s been forced to pay the sizeable bill for all the HRC shenanigans, while being entirely shut out of the procedures, which are secret and disregard all the safeguards of due process.
But, Canadians seem to be a pretty phlegmatic lot: I wonder if, on the whole, they’ll even notice this latest “brought-to-you-by-the-Liberals” scandal.
“33 million Canadians from surfing where they want to surf, shows the true character of the people we’re dealing with here.”
Communism / Fascism is alive and well.
Same thing should go for the human rights industry.
The last word in the above sentance is the key to understanding these kangaroo courts. INDUSTRY.
They are subsidised by you the tax payer for the sole purpose of intimidation towards anyone who has any conflicting views.
Why do we allow these snake oil salesmen to be given this power without any supervision or the awareness of the men or women who prosecute people with conflicting ideals based on no democratic legal procedures?
Seems to me these are just jobs for politicaly driven control freaks.
One is not allowed a Lawyer nor a real Judge.Its decisions are based on the arbitrary opinions of the fanatics who where put there soly based on idiology, not in the interests of fairness or equality the people.
We can all thank PET for this monster of injustice.
In fact I would go as far as saying this is an anti Democratic scam to defraud us citizans of our rights for a fair trial for arbitary judgements based on race, gender, or politics. By individuals with a monetary or political stake.
It is a tool of oppression to silence any foes.To change social mores by intimidation.To undermind by force, change in our social institutions
This is now a buisness of the left. An industry if you will to promote depotism, for it has none of the features or balances of a real court . It is based at best on ideology or personel agendas. At worst it is used to silence the press or an individual from expressing themselves.
As well as a form of punishment based on the personel feelings of the people who are making big money to make sure there jobs stay plump with monney & power.
As for the real cases of bigotry we do still have courtrs with thousands of years of checks built in. If not appeals.
“Human rights” tribrunals on the other hand are used for political change with no appeals but to the very people who have condemned you, nor a real judge. Just political flunkies for hire. Usually bullies with a messianic complex & control freaks ta boot.
This group has to be disbaned & let the real courts decide issues run by people picked by ELECTED oficials & seen over by a judicuary with lomg standing rules of procedure that have worked for centuries. Not well by any means, but better than any other system divised.
This is a serious buisness these “human rights” directorites. They remind me of the same mentality set up during the French Revolution that was such a blood bath.
In the end no one sould be left to the false mercies of this modern form of inquisition. For that is exactly what they are. Engines of social change without restraint . Run by varied personel agendas not rules.
Why is it mostly Consrvatives who end up there? In fact I have never heard of a hate spewing communist nor socialist ever hauled before them.
We know why. They are proggresive even when the bulldozres are running 24/7. Proggresive is good .No matter how many bodies . Capatalism bad. Because we cant force people to act the way us busy body’s want. Again we have REAL courts, why these travisties of injustice? Whole foundations of our polity being underminedby by people who think there little god kings.
Just my opinion.
Keith Martin, Liberal, leading the charge again. He’d get my vote during the next election were he my MP.
I suspect that the majority of Canadians know nothing about these HRC or the HRAct. When asked, I’ll go further and suggest that most will say ‘it’s a good thing’. After all, the NAME says that it is a ‘good thing’.
Canadians tend to be sheep, silent followers. Even when they dissent, as they are now doing in marching against Afghanistan, they are followers.
They think that we should ‘keep the peace’, ignoring that the tribal Islamists in Pakistan and Afghanistan have no intention of enabling peace. They think that ‘war is American’ ignoring that we Canadians hide behind the military protection of the USA. So, it’s easy for Canadians to hide behind words and images, as we are not responsible for very much on the world scene.
They will probably fall in line with funding for Canadian films; after all, what could be wrong with funding films made in Canada? Hmmm? The fact that the films are rubbish? Oh, that’s just your peasant-opinion….
So, the fight for free speech is going to have to be confined to those few who know that the HRC operate against our human rights, and against our well-being.
Ezra hit the nail on the head. What makes the HRCs repulsive is their evident belief that they don’t need to justify their methods or their goals to the great unwashed. They have granted themselves a special dispensation to drag citizens into a private playground where they can be prosecuted in the name of some Trudeaupian social contract no one ever signed up for.
As we saw during the Liberal years, there’s a species of entitled attitude that can only operate at full throttle behind closed doors. Open the doors — allow everyone to see what’s going on — and Warman’s hero routine, for example, and his giggly smirk, would disappear into his living room, where they belong.
Speaking of, ahh, the disinfectant properties of sunlight, there’s great news at steynonline: the counsel for Maclean’s is going to file a motion “requiring that Charlies Gillis, (Steyn) and other Maclean’s staff be admitted to cover the proceedings on the grounds that the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Tribunal are subject to the same rules of openness as any other Canadian court.
Kate describes certain media as being not disseminators of news but rather *gatekeepers*, and after witnessing the — almost repulsive — burying of this important Canadian news story by the usual suspects, her description is disturbingly apt. Watching CBC and CTV, for example, one gets a sense that it’s all spin, all the time. It’s becoming almost surreal, it’s palpable that decision-makers behind the scenes are deciding what viewers are supposed to know and think and, even moreso what they’re not supposed to know or think.
If Maclean’s is allowed to report on the testimony of Warman and Steacy et al regarding their posting of hateful messages at — let’s face it, non-Liberal — sites which were then prosecuted for such comments, a lot of people who haven’t heard a peep about the HRCs from the Lib-proxy media arms are going to know what’s going on.
I’d wager that one single copy of Maclean’s in a doctor’s or dentist’s office is not only read by a whole lot of people, but also continues to be read for many months after its publication. As a medium, Maclean’s is waaay less ephemeral than a newspaper or, especially, a broadcast.
PS, here’s a video clip of an HRC process that an HRCer thought she could hide in her hand-bag:
youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9PFoE6EKE
The most demoralizing aspect about the HRC issue is the obvious lack of concern by Corporate Canadian media.
Editorial pages should be pounding away at the heavy handed , one sided, secretive processes the HRC’s employ with frightening power over not only our speech but now escalating to our thoughts as well.
Yet the silence is universal not only editorially by the national rags but also from the yappers on TV.
Are the conservative / Libertarian bloggers the only concerned Canadians?
I am convinced Canadian MSM is corrupt, but surely not to the point of acquiescing to government faux judicial tyranny of the HRC’s/
Kieth Martin has had a bee in his bonnet since he did poorly in the Conservative Leadership.
He’s still trying to find himself.
“The fact that the films are rubbish?”
ET, c’mon. ‘Goin’ Down The Road’ is a classic!
/sarc off
Wonderful news and welcome progress to retrieve our free expression rights.
The most demoralizing aspect about the HRC issue is the obvious lack of concern by Corporate Canadian media.
The Canadian media is complex.
Oppose the HRC and you are automatically pro-extremist. The CBC will make a movie. You will be ruined.
It is the power of the state funded and controlled media to silence dissent.
The Catholic Church opposes state sanctioned same sex unions and the state funded film funders (ie Telefilm) fund the pro-gay union film about a boy persecuted by the Catholic schools.
They fund films to demonize pro-lifers.
And they will fund films about those who oppose the HRC.
It is the game. Disagee and you lose!
Welcome to Canada.
I’m surprised that the HRC’s didn’t report to Public Works Canada under a Liberal administration.
Where is Alfonso when you need him?
if the issue is not resolved before the conservatives present themselves with a majority in parliament then it will be handled discreetly when they do; in “newspeak” the hrcs will be forced to restructure and become the department of really big reconciliations. in other words – the original mandate will be restored but with safeguards in place, because as the dnd contractor case shows – real zealots can screw anything up.
an activist judiciary has long been recognised stateside as a source of confused and conflicted thinking. the fruit on the lowest branches is easiest to pick and the hrcs are getting pretty ripe.
again, hats off for dr. keith martin, mr.ezra levant, mr. mark steyn and a back-handed compliment to elmasry and the kids at osgoode hall without whose help none of this may have been possible.
Keith Martin, Liberal, leading the charge again. He’d get my vote during the next election were he my MP.
-Mark Peters
Indeed, I wish I were Canadian so I could vote for him too.
The spineless conservatives are AWOL from this epic battle to restore the most fundamental of human rights.
Freedom Fan; read Liz J’s comment, Kieth Martin was voted into the H of C as a Reformer.
Like most people here I have heard nothing (except for one short clip of Ezra) on the idiot box or in the newspapers.
The HRC has been exposed by Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn and bloggers of the Right in all it’s naked grossness. Thanks to the popularity of SDA and Western Standard many people are now aware of the under handed activities of this hate based organization. May I express my gratitude.
until we canadians accept the fact that we are morally bankrupt and as corrupt as those we allow to govern us, we are stuck with what is.
It’s becoming almost surreal, it’s palpable that decision-makers behind the scenes are deciding what viewers are supposed to know and think and, even moreso what they’re not supposed to know or think.
Have you ever read a pseudo academic/litigious decision from the Canadian Broadcast Standards Counsel justifying the silencing of critics of protected groups? Or other decisions justifying the attacks on ‘conservative’, ‘traditional’ and religious (save Muslim) groups.
That is surreal.
Some unseen hand named Ron Cohen has been manipulating broadcast speech for years and the media nods, bows down and worships.
What pisses me off is that Harper and the Cons are sitting with their fingers up their arses and their brains in neutral doing nothing about this. I voted for these idiots and though these kangaroo courts are lefty inspired Harper could and should do something about them after all he is supposed to be the great saviour of Canadians.
Well free speech to me is one of the greatest freedoms.
And it is taking a Liberal to point this out. So to the Conservative MP in Glengarry Prescott Russell with a 200 majority you have lost at least one vote next time.