When the concept of “multiculturalism” was introduced to Canadians, most assumed it meant “more pavilions at Folkfest”.
“it is good to see you have changed phrase “Iranian Pig” to “Fine Iranian Gentleman” . this is exactly what we do . we call the girl “victim” although we belive the “canadian bitch” is some thing she deserves .”
“Maybe you Canadians prefer pedophiles over breast kissers!
cover ur ass before affectedly boasting to be so prude. We are closely watching you, my host friends!”
“Hi Pigs!!
The following link shows the place that Farhood and all the other pigs came from. Tehran capital of Iran with 2500+ year of civilization and NO GAY or RAPER!!”
Re: “Sorry for the rant Jimbo, this pushes all my p1ss off buttons.”
I can see that. Sorry ’bout that. Go “beat something metallic with a hammer”. I’m going to the gym.
Maybe I have a different picture of what happened. I see a young, awkward guy, carried away by raging hormones, acting on impulse, and kissing the top of a woman’s exposed breast. I guess I see myself at his age, though I never did anything like that, or would consider it. It’s piggish and inexcusable, and I realize the fact they were in a confined place makes it more traumatic for the girl, but I just don’t see this as warranting stabbing, deportation, etc.
Maybe it’s too much time spent working in bars, where the more likely reaction would be, no nip, no foul. And yes, I am making light of the subject, because I don’t feel it’s that big a deal. Where I worked, the guy would be taken outside, spoken to forcefully, possibly barred, and that would be the end of it, unless she decided to make it a police matter.
I’m just saying on a scale of 1-10 of possible offenses, I’d maybe rate this about a 2 or 3. Maybe. Obviously some feel differently. I sincerely hope I don’t push any more buttons here Phantom – that’s not what I’m trying to do. I may not always agree with you, but I’ve got a lot of respect for your opinions and contributions here. And I appreciate that it’s not a racist/cultural thing with you.
I agree with phantom and penny.
Phantom is completely right.. the most justifiable thing that could have happened would have been immediate retaliation by the victim, as soon as the kid physically offended her. Under those circumstances, a knife or gun would have been completely appropriate. (They make some nice little derringers that would be perfect for such a situation.)
And I agree with penny that Islam should be ridiculed until it changes or disappears.
Although we have every kind of garden-variety creep that you can dig out of the slime here in Texas, we have fewer Muslims perpetrating crimes. I think the reason is simply because the Muslims realize that they are on a lot thinner ice with us.
Our really major problem is our politicians. We keep screaming at them to stop immgrating these people into our countries. We keep pointing out the cultural and criminal and economic problems associate with their immigration. But the politicians continue to ignore us and put us into situations like this unfortunate woman.
My opinion of politicians sinks lower every day. Maybe some of them even privately agree with us, but for God’s sake, they’re not going to do anything to jeopardize their little offices.
In the West, sane people are losing control of our governments. Frankly, some of the politicians for letting Muslims into our countries should be considered accessories after the fact to sexual molestation.
Re:”is anyone sticking up for serial killers here, Jimbo?” – Dean Spencer
No, Dean. Obviously, I’m pointing out the previous poster’s ridiculous use of unrelated examples as evidence Muslims are “backward neanderthals”. Obviously. Read the post just above mine.
and re: “Is it some essential element of western civilisation that our religion defends?”
“our religion”? What?
…i’m a leg man myself.
Then you’ve got to consider what would have occurred should this have happened to Kate.
She probably would have kicked the shit out of him and then given him a bill for the dominatrix fees.
Maybe then he would have understood the consequences of sexually offending a real Canadian.
ET – if Islam and its relationship to women wasn’t so dysfunctional, disrespectful and far too often downright violent to them, then, this guy’s inappropriate behavior wouldn’t make him so easily a poster boy for all that is rotten about Islam. I have no idea what motivated this guy completely except that his statement that “you can’t expect all males to control themselves when the breasts are out” left some clues. It’s obvious he felt permitted. We are all free to speculate past that.
Jimbo, I don’t think that you thinking about the circumstances here, a closed elevator isn’t the same as a social setting like a bar when something this unexpected and creepy happens. I’d be terrified, and I’ve worked in mental health in some pretty rough places with some pretty rough clients, simply because here’s a person who is so dis-inhibited and taking advantage of the privacy of an elevator.
This guy deserves deportation after that incident. There are no assurances that he isn’t a threat to others. Their is an adage in psych and with cops that past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. I don’t see in this story where this guy has any insight or remorse.
I propose the following as a means of simplifying the questions raised – and answered – on this and other threads.
No aspect of humanity not open to the choice of the person involved can be used to discriminate against him; all actions any human takes by choice are properly subject to criticism by any other human, and are valid criteria by which to pass judgement upon him.
As with anything as far-ranging as this rule, the devil will be in the details. But I think it is flexible enough to cover most things of which I have been able to think. Have at it
“Muslim males are sex mad fiends? Some will die on the promise of 72 virgins in the great beyond if they kill infidels.”
It’s important for these passionate, virgin-loving, infidel-vaporizing wackos to remember that 72 virgins aren’t really a lot. For a normal person in an average lifetime it would be outstanding, but we’re talking Eternity here.
So, a word from the wise to you insane, deranged fanatical Islam practising dudes. Pace yourselves. You do them all at one and then what have you got?
Do the math. What’s Eternity/72? My calculator doesn’t have an Eternity button.
just spent a week at a nice sunny resort
coulda wore my lips of kissing:-))))
on a serious note, the fool should be tried of the crime commited, sentanced , and then booted
we want our wimin folk to feel safe no matter were they go, even WITHOUT the presence of a male
I compare my experience in New York with Phoenix. In nice suburbs of New York, you don’t see women jogging or biking alone or even in pairs. At all. Ever. Because they aren’t safe.
In Phoenix, when the weather is nice, one commonly sees fiiine looking women jogging and biking and rollerblading and even skateboarding, alone, in pairs, in gaggles.
The difference, my friends, is not that there are no a-holes in Arizona. There are many, many predators, nutcases, sleazeballs, scumbags etc. The difference is what’s inside that little fanny pack those chicks are wearing over their skin-tight running gear.
An armed society is a polite society. Also a SAFE society.
It’s actually 72 white raisins.
That’s what the German scholars researching the collection of ancient Islamic manuscripts have interpreted from the original Syriac.
Imagine the martyr’s surprise when he’s awarded 72 raisins for blowing himself up. What a mixup.
Hey Irwin, I remember when that Sheik Hilali used his famous ‘uncovered meat’ analogy.
I emailed an Aussy paper and pointed out that what he was really saying is that his young group of fine innocent Muslim rapist boys had the brains and morals of a pack of dogs looking for a bitch in heat.
And if they couldn’t act like civilized men, then they should be deported back to a time warp that suits them.
But hey, this is the kind of BS that happens when the 14th century barbarians, led by uneducated immans, meet the 21st century civilization.
Wait, there’s a knock at the door!
Oh no, its the dreaded thought police!
Jimbo I am the poster of “backward neandrathals” and I stand by that, any man who believes that it’s his womens’ fault because he has no boys needs to check out his own shorts. backwards neandrathal.
ET, I don’t entirely agree with your position. Though the individual remains responsible for his/her own actions and not all muslim or Iranian males would act this way, they are strongly influenced by their religion and their upbringing.
When I was young, I was taught to say “excuse me” when I burp…everytime I burp now, I say “excuse me”. Is this an example of me being responsible or is this a result of my upbringing? Sorry to burst your bubble, its because of my upbringing.
Muslim males and males from islamic countries are brought up to believe that women are second-class citizens and that anyone “asking for it” deserves it. It is nurture, not nature.
Men’s universal NATURE is to get horny around attractive females…it is programmed into us. Our upbringing, or our NURTURE, decides how we respond to the urges.
I posit that your statement about this not having anything to do with culture is incorrect. Therefore, it is a cultural or religious problem.
This Iranian site has some comments that are somewhat similar to our own. However, it seems to point out that this type of behaviour is common on the streets of Tehran.
http://67.192.94.187/main/singlepage/2008/farhood-azarsina
fivefeetoffury has this quote up on her site today:
Considering the hundreds of sexual cues men are exposed to every day, and society’s “if it feels good, do it” ethos, combined with their hardwired sexual natures, I’d say men deserve our congratulations and thanks.
There are still many men who are able to both control themselves in the midst of society’s changing dress codes and have a deep respect for those women who dress more modestly than the norm. Indeed, “the lady” has not yet disappeared from our society and “the gentleman” still notices.
So should we send all men of Islam religion to a nudist camp? Just think of the carnage! Carnage as in the guys/gals kicking the crap out of the muzzie who tries to move in on some nudity. So if the female body is so tempting to them,why do they so willing move to a country where it is on display???
Re: “Jimbo, I don’t think that you’re thinking about the circumstances here, a closed elevator isn’t the same as a social setting like a bar, when something this unexpected and creepy happens. I’d be terrified” by Penny
Point taken, Penny. I understand your point of view, and I’m trying to channel Alan Alda as best I can, but I still don’t think it was that bad, and sure don’t agree he should be deported, much less stabbed, or shot. You mention kissing the top of her breast could “easily escalate to hands on your throat”. I suppose it could have escalated to a lot of things, but please consider that it didn’t. They were alone on in an elevator, he could have done anything, and the worst he did was kiss the top of her breasts. Stupid, immature, creepy, inconsiderate, etc., yes.
I’m not disagreeing with you that Muslim men in the ME, and some here, treat women in unacceptable ways. I’d like to add to the list, if it’s ok with you.
I know some Lebanese Christian guys who also treat women like dirt. It’s disgusting to see. Same with some of the Italian guys I know. Especially if they’ve had a couple glasses of wine.
Then there are the Mexican guys I got to know in California. You wouldn’t believe how bad they treated the women they met. I’ve heard it can be that way throughout much of Central and South America, where there’s this ultra macho culture.
Some of the Jamaican guys I’ve met might actually be the worst. Some scary dudes – misogynist doesn’t begin to cover it. And the way Aboriginal men have treated women on the reserves and off is horrible, and an embarrassment.
I play in a band where the other members are black Americans. They can be extremely sexist by my standards, and I’ve let them know I don’t appreciate the way they treat the women sometimes. In fact, I know a lot of touring musicians that treat women poorly. Especially the black musicians. Singers and guitarists seem the worst offenders, followed, in order, by bass players and drummers. Piano players are, generally, pretty nice, but there are some exceptions, especially if they’re from Texas.
The most disgusting I’ve seen has to be the way the US soldiers treated the hookers in Tijuana. They beat the crap out of them, and treat them as if they were a subhuman species. It happens in the Philippines too, by the base.
Then there’s the way the sex tourists, often Aussies, but sometimes Brit’s, and yes, Canadians, treat the Thai, Indonesian, and Filipino’s, including the kids.
Japanese men have been known to treat women as subservient, and the way they’ve historically treated women from other cultures (China, Korea, Philippines) is their “dirty little secret. And have you noticed how Russian and Romanian men treat women? How come so many are pimps?
I could go on. Don’t get me started about the Swiss;)
Okay so a few knuckle dragging males say it’s her fault, she’s minding her biddness and a horney Iranian attacks her but he’s really not a sex offender. Not in Iran he isn’t but in Canada he is, thankfully.
So the next time I have PMS I can take my bread knife and hack the penis off the first male I see, after all it’s not my fault it’s theirs because they should of known I have PMS.
As for sexual Cues, get a life dick head. It’s called brushing the hair out of our eyes, it’s not a come hither look to some Barbarian from an Islamic Country. Honestly I can’t believe the men who have crawled out of their paneled basements/caves to defend this pervert.
Thankfully he’ll never get a job in Canada from a reputable company EVER, one google search and it’s over. Lights out pig man.
Islamic Culture is to blame, those that state he isn’t Muslim really and you know this how? It wasn’t brought up at trial because his religion wasn’t applicable but his responses were typical Islamic hyperhole of blame the “Female” and excuse the criminal. He’s right about one thing, in Iran she’d never get to file a complaint. Just badley beaten by the Morals and vice police for not being Moral enough.
A country that advocates that women are devils and should shroud themselves in bedsheets lest they get raped. Sick so sick, what a pityful culture.
Jimbo
you forgot to mention
most of those “people” you listed would be liberal voters:-)))))
Our government (as well as others) publish advisories about travelling to different countries. These advisories usually include things that you shouldn’t do there (although it’s OK here). For Egypt, as an example, “men should not wear shorts outside tourist areas” … “Respect religious and social traditions to avoid offending local sensitivities.”
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=79000
I don’t want to offend local sensitivities … so I will not go to Egypt … it’s my choice.
Maybe Canada has to publish what offends Canadian “sensitivities” and make those that want to travel here read them. For most individuals coming here it would be common sense (and might be, help us, offensive) … for those special visitors (like the one in question … really I’m not bitter about subsidizing him … taxpayer thing) it might help.
Of course Islam is at the root of this, it’s a delusion to think otherwise. His rationale to the court is the same as every Muslim rapist caught, blame the victim.
First prize to Jimbo for moral equivocation blovation of the thread. Salaam.
ET you haven’t learned much about Islam yet have you?
Jimbo – your point is well taken. I just can’t get past the elevator scenerio on this one, it puts the onus on this guy as calculating in my opinion.
Is he a symptom of Islam, could be, maybe not, it’s still a religion, make that cult, that needs to be mocked until it disappears or reforms. If they don’t like the stereotype that flashes red with stories like this they can change it.
Re: “First prize to Jimbo for moral equivocation blovation of the thread. Salaam.”
I’m not excusing the behavior, just pointing out other cultures and categories of people have similarly reprehensible, um, tendencies. And, by extension, pointing out that many who post here have another tendency – that is, to bash Muslims at every turn.
Are you suggesting only Muslims treat women badly? Or are you suggesting it’s worse if Muslims do it? Or, that it’s ok for certain groups to treat women badly, but not for Muslims?
OK Penny. I’m with you now, and agree on the major point. I think I was seeing it less from the point of view of the woman (naturally) who was trapped with this idiot and victimized, and relating more to the guy, who made a terrible mistake that, hopefully, is a one-time thing.
I made mistakes in my wild youth that I regret. If he doesn’t learn his lesson and repeats this kind of behavior, then, by all means, out he goes.
Jimbo
In Islam , misogyny is hardwired and abuse of women is expected an encouraged. It can never be altered because it is the will of Allah.
In most of the other abuse examples you gave, a woman who fought back might gain some respect, in Islam she would be condemned and executed for trying to defend herself. Islam is not like anything else.
eeyore – your parental upbringing is not identical with your ‘culture’ and ‘religion’. My point was that the Iranian culture and the Islamic religion are not causal of this young man’s behaviour. He is – and that could include his parental upbringing.
Iranian culture does NOT mean that a man can attack a woman. Islamic religion does NOT mean that a man can attack a woman.
blackbird – no, (sigh), I’m not deluded and I don’t think that Islam is ‘at the bottom’ of his behaviour. And I know a fair bit about Islam, thank you.
Good posts, jimbo.
BL@KBIRD,
I don’t believe it’s hardwired. There are some parts of the world where the behavior you’re referring to is the norm, and we should do everything we can to stop it. If it’s hardwired, then we’re talking about a “final solution” scenario. There’s too much evidence, thank God, that it’s not.
If you’ve ever seen a prostitute fight back against her Jamaican pimp, you’d know respect is not what she gained, if she survived.
Well here’s a “moderate” post at the site to which Kate linked:
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“Mohammad Ashouriّ February 3, 2008 at
hey Robert, gays are gentlemen when facing with women and but i think you are a impolite gay. women love to get raped and fucked, don’t forget it! Islam knows this issue and its why Islam recommend “Hijab” for women. i see what women could do why body’s are out.
finally, I think you, Canadian, have erection problem. and its why you are using TV instead of pussy!”
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Hard to tell if that’s a real Muslim or Lucy Warman.
I am having trouble comprehending what is being said here. A person is attacked in an elevator and guys (?) like Jimbo are saying that people shouldn’t worry? What was the next step for this perv? If kissing stranger’s breasts is no big deal then what is?
I’m sorry but where I come from you don’t kiss stranger’s breasts (at least without a CLEAR invitation).
Just got back and see that this thread is still going.
If we look at the situation after the fact, then we understand that we’re dealing with something that ultimately falls into the range of a frightening misdemeanor.
So examination after the fact leads me to one course of action, which I stated in my first post. However, when one is considering a course of action based on putting oneself in the position of the victim, one is now in a position that excludes knowledge of the outcome.
For example, if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, it is possible that they may be harmless and only wish to steal a few dollars and commit injury to none.
But as you awaken in your bed to the tinkling of glass, you simply have no basis on which to evaluate the intentions of the intruder.
And if you begin to hallucinate content that the intruder is fairly benign and you will not shoot them on sight, then you are in the predicament of leaving the determination of what will happen to you and your children to a criminal who is already willing to break into your home in the middle of the night and steal your property.
Your only decision is whether to defend yourself or simply hope that the intruder is ultimately some nice guy, and therefore you have become a pacifist and vulnerable.
When this kid threw himself onto this woman in the confines of an elevator, she had no way of knowing how dangerous or psychotic he may be. At that juncture, were she armed or even unarmed, the only thing she can decide is either to defend herself with everything she’s got, or hope that this strange male in a world of rape and murder is ultimately just a big dog that wants to lick her and wander off wagging its tail.
I know what I would tell my daughter.
Re: “If kissing stranger’s breasts is no big deal then what is?”
Let’s see, … murder, child abuse, rape, violence, obesity, alcoholism, drug abuse, bird flu, poverty, pollution, … , you get the picture.
As for what was the next step, if you read the stories you’ll see there was no next step. It was, by all accounts, a stupid, immature, piggish impulse – he reached over and kissed the top of her exposed breasts. It took “less than a second”. I think there are far more serious things to worry about. But then, according to one poster, I’m a “backward neandrathal”, [sp] though, as “neandrathals” go, I like to think I’m more of a progressive, or forward “neandrathal”.
I’m not saying what he did was ok. People have a right to be pissed off. I am suggesting many people are over reacting, letting their emotions get the better of them, and suggesting such things as stabbing, shooting, and deporting him (not necessarily in that order).
And I’m pointing out, again, that some are very quick on the draw when it comes to blaming anyone they think is a Muslim.
The lady should have led him around the elevator by his family jewels for awhile – and then finished him off with a lovely kiss, I mean kick to the groin.
Just for the record – men are pigs and dogs; it just so happens Muslims do not like pigs and dogs – no racism here, just treating all men the same when they act like pigs and dogs.
Jimbo,
Blaming? It happened, fool.
“This is why where you find broken windows you will find every manner of vice under the sun and moon. Because if people can break windows without retaliation, then they know the rules and they know what strategy to play.”
Bill Whittle
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/2007_05.html
[quote]When this kid threw himself onto this woman in the confines of an elevator, she had no way of knowing how dangerous or psychotic he may be. At that juncture, were she armed or even unarmed, the only thing she can decide is either to defend herself with everything she’s got, or hope that this strange male in a world of rape and murder is ultimately just a big dog that wants to lick her and wander off wagging its tail.[/quote]
Wow! What an imagination
I agree with Jimbo & ET, some ethnic comments are way beyond MY line. Some of the feminist comments are just immature or maybe Charlie Manson has some new soul mates.
The kid did the crime and doing his time.. No story here. Piling-on may be considered a foul, careful now buzzards have ears.
Dammit, I thought I’d get to see boobies when I clicked on this link. 🙁
Anyone that touches a woman when she doesn’t want to be touched deserves to meet an angry kingstonlad-type. Especially coming out of an elevator.
Sort of like, “Oy, mate, yer comin’ wit us, try to smoyle on the way out.”
Telling video from the aforementioned Dime a Dozen blog re: what a woman might expect in Iran
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZQQDRdeAw
I am dismayed that Canadian neanderthals like Jimbo don’t get it. This isn’t about the fact that he is Iranian, although contrary to ET’s absolution, his cultural origin may very well have been a factor.
It IS a big deal. Correct, it didn’t proceed to a rape, battery or homicide. But that part is irrelevant. As has been pointed out several times, the victim OF AN ASSAULT has no way, in a confined space, to know the outcome. The girl DIDN’T attend Jimbo’s bar where she might reasonably expect to be groped or otherwise similarly interfered with. Fortunately, the PHYSICAL outcome was benign; don’t be too sure about the emotional. A colleague and I regularly confer on the rehabilitation matter of another colleague (female) who was threatened in a confined space, who after three years, several psychologists and psychiatrists, is still only marginally fit to return to work. There was no physical harm, not even a touch. The subsequent mental anguish of the event, however, is quite another story.
Context is everything in an assault. The offending student got off light (too light). The girl, maybe not.
“Are you suggesting only Muslims treat women badly? Or are you suggesting it’s worse if Muslims do it?”
It’s not clear whether the perp is Muslim. And yes, people of every race, group, etc., can and do behave badly. However, the Islamic ideology as stated in and taught from the trilogy is blatantly misogynistic and violent towards women. It is the only group whose violent and misogynist ideology (amongst other things) is institutionalized into law and politics in Islamic countries. This is fact.
It is ridiculous to state, as ET did, that belief and law have no bearing on behaviour. The facts and statistics prove otherwise.
Hey Skip, get a grip. If someone (your colleague) was that traumatized by this kind of minor incident, they have a different kind of problem, and, to quote Barbara Amiel commenting on a similar circumstance, they are scarcely equipped to handle life.
Then again, your referring to me as a neanderthal is deeply disturbing to me. I don’t know if I can leave the house. I feel worthless, belittled, and I feel like crying. Do you think I can get the government to cover my disability? Or pay for my bubble? This feeling could last for years, if I can find the right psychiatrist. Can you refer me to the ones your colleague used? I’m hoping for permanent disability here. Ka-Ching! /sarc
This is a minor incident that would have been dealt with as an insensitive collegial prank had the male in question not been Iranian, and had his poor grasp of English not caused his unfortunate (but somewhat humorous, to those of us with a sense of humour) use of the phrase “You can’t expect all males to control themselves when the breasts are out”.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to change the bandages on my dragging knuckles. Then I’m going to try to leave the house and get to the Gym. Hopefully I’ll be able to control myself if, with any luck, the breasts are out.
Despite ongoing calls for Shariah in western countries, it hasn’t been implemented, at least not as far as offical government recognition. However, it matters little:
thetelegraph.co.uk
“No one in Government could possibly endorse the cruel denial of elementary freedoms to women. An absolutely basic value of the free and tolerant society in which most of us want to live is that every adult should be able to choose whom they will marry, where they will work, and what they will wear. No one who believes in liberal values (and every member of the Government insists that they are committed to those values) can accept that women should be denied an education, or should be bullied into marriages which they oppose, or denied the right to go outside their homes without being accompanied by, or getting permission from, a male relative. Yet that is precisely what is happening in some of the tightly knit immigrant communities in Britain.”
“The brutal coercion of women has been aided and abetted by Government policy, and thus by the ministers who make and implement it. The attitude of the state to those who would deny women fundamental freedoms should be one of active engagement to prevent any such appalling abuse: it should be an aggressive campaign to ensure that the law is enforced and that illegal coercion of women is prevented; and to ensure that “traditional” attitudes change. People who come from cultures where coercive behaviour towards women is the norm should be made to realise that it will not be tolerated in this country.”
Did you read the last line ET, et al?
“this kind of minor incident” See, there you go. Neanderthal fits. Wear it in pride. Be thankful you won’t be the one called upon to clean up the messes this attitude creates, not that you’d be able to. Oh, so sorry, ad hominem attack. Tough.
First person observation from someone in North Vancouver.
**holdfast February 3, 2008 at
Don’t worry – we’ll be seeing a lot more of this in the near future. I had the misfortune of staffing a free legal clinic in North Vancouver, BC (huge Iranian community) and the lack of impulse control among Iranians is staggering.
Sure there are plenty of scumbags born in Canada, but the thing that struck me is that most of the Iranian miscreants I dealt with came from prosperous, complete and seemingly healthy families, whereas most of the Canadian-born criminals were from poor, single-parent, etc families (not that having a rough family life is an excuse for crime, but it is a pretty reliable indicator).
Now, I wasn’t dealing with anything as serious as sexual assault, but we saw a lot of simple assault and shoplifting. My assumption at the time was that a lot of folks were acting out because for the first time they were not subject to the rigid controls and barbaric punishment of the Islamic Republic.
Shoplifting was what I saw the most of – most of it was really stupid, low value items (often booze) stolen in such an incompetent manner as to almost guarantee being caught.
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Oppressive culture. No *religious police* around so let*s go hog wild. Ooops, a pun. = TG
Not getting your hand chopped off is a bonus.
…95 postings on breast kissing.
A lot of lonely guys in here.
😉
I’m a leg man myself.