The Mulroney – Schreiber media frenzy is less a scandal in waiting than it is a speculation-driven Liberal hope bubble. It’s too old, the basis too flimsy, the source too compromised, too little money is alleged to be involved, but most important of all – it’s already been investigated.
And then there’s the involvement of journalist/police informant Stevie Cameron. If ever a scandal had an Achilles in heels…
But I do like Mulroney’s idea.;
After a tough and lengthy battle against these false and horrendously libellous accusations, the government of the day had to admit that they had absolutely no evidence to support them, and apologized to me and my family. In addition, they had to reimburse me of all my legal and other expenses.
Twelve years later, the same people at the CBC and at certain other media organizations who were at the origin of the 1995 accusations are still conducting their vendetta. Last Friday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper decided that he needed the counsel of an independent third party to advise him on the course of action to follow after new allegations were made in an affidavit filed by Karlheinz Schreiber from his prison cell where he is detained pending the execution of an extradition order confirmed twice by the Supreme Court of Canada.
I will fully co-operate with the special adviser soon to be appointed by the Prime Minister, but I have come to the conclusion that in order to finally put this matter to rest and expose all the facts and the role played by all the people involved, from public servants to elected officials, from lobbyists to the police authorities, as well as journalists, the only solution is for the government to launch a full-fledged public commission of inquiry which would cover the period from 1988 to today.
(Caveat – so long as the Globe, the CBC, CTV, and the Liberal Party of Canada are presented with the bill should he again be cleared.)
But, whatever. I come not to praise Mulroney – my fondness for everything Progressive Conservative finally evaporated with the Bristol Aerospace CF-18 contract – but to provide you a dedicated thread.
Stay on topic.
Like a lot of conservatives here who voted early on for Mulroney I then voted to get rid of him because of his stench. Conservatives unlike Liberal will at least stand up to get rid of scum even if it is in our own pond.
I wouldn’t waste one bit of energy on this defending this guy.
The librano$ are desperate. Schreiber is desperate. Two desperado$ cooking up a new scheme.
Why didn’t the librano$ get the schreiber letter? Probably because they wrote it.
How many jailbirds get to do media interviews in their cells? Does schreiber have a private secretary in his cell also?
One can only hope that the outcome is that every hack journo, every sleazy librano pol, and every organization involved in this smear job gets sued into oblivion. And that my dear old uncle finally realizes his two decades long fervent wish – a jail cell for the Cretch.
Yep – same comment as some others in here:
$300 k cash in brown envelopes in hotel rooms. Add that to the tax disclosure 2 years after the fact.
Brutal.
It don’t matter which of the kleptocrats assume the position, the taxpayer will get it in the wallet.
And Brian seeking out drawn out process to muddy the waters is a simple but useful tactic in information wars.
Mindless partisanship is…well…..mindless.
Give your heads a shake.
Lyin’ Brian took cash in hotel rooms from good ‘ol Karl. For something. As yet specifically not stated. After 10+ YEARS.
How many of you forget the SECRET trial on Airbus discovered by a journalist?
We live in a banana republic folks. It’ll be that way for generations to come.
Giive up hope, the oligopolies own you.
Now be nice, and cut your cheque to Power Corp and be quiet. There’s a good Canadian taxpayor. Take your medicine.
And keep preaching the party line.
When the Lie-berals bring back Mark Holland as pitbull on this matter you just know that there’s puffin exrement everywhere.
Now what was it about those stolen boxes of Conservative documents in the posession Holland and Jennings that the aforementioned paraded about out in front of the media?
Hey Bruce :
Liberals are sleaze. Yep. No news there.
CASH IN ENVELOPES IN A HOTEL ROOM FROM KARL.
Kinda inescapable dude.
Okay, Bruce, then the fact that it’s almost inconceivable to lucid Canadians who follow politics that Harper wouldn’t have seen the letter is the reason.
Or do you think he saw it and someone else made the decision?
Lucid Crabby? The letter never made it from the PCO to the PMO. dah
You lefties are in good company with Schreiber.
Allegations, but no documentary evidence.
Hardbioiled,
Read the post today. Mr Schreiber has indicated in writing in court documents that the $300,000 was for future services regarding his pasta business, whether you eblieve that was the purpose or not is another story, but that has been said.
Secondly Mr Schreiber has recently sued to get his $300,000 back saying Brian didnt do anything, including not answering letters and phone on the matter.
So if thats the case then Schreiber’s paper trail indicated he believed this is what it was for and his reasons for getting it back would be for services not rendered on that business.
Unless Karl now says he has lied, perjury, and that he paid a Bribe to a Canadian government official, an illegal act, then Mulroney’s payment is legal, while the method is highly unusual.
So for the moment all evidence, written and in court, indicate that the payment was legitimate but that the FUTURE services were allegedly not rendered.
Of course if Mr Schreibers story changes this time then why should he be believed unless he can find corroborating evidence to show this first story wasnt the case.
I am open to all possibilities but right now the evidence says Mr Mulroney is guilty of nothing except bad judgement in the choice of customers and of methods of payment.
Get some evidence.
Stephen, wouldn’t it be fair to say that at this point the original act, whether illegal or not, is no longer the issue?
Crab,
I will say again, subject to their proof that it made it to the PMO. Why would a letter that wasnt tied to a court case actually make it through the filters to get to Stephen Harper’s desk.
I am sure the UFO letters, Bilderberger letters, Gnomes of Europe Letters and letters by 9/11 truthers get filed just as quickly and dont go to the PM’s attention.
If you can’t see the Liberal ploy behind this one, you need a cataract operation. Since day one, Chretien and later on Martin wanted Mulroney’s hide in the cauldron.
If 9 mounties couldn’t come up with enough evidence to convict the former PM, do you beleive an inquiry will help?
Why wasn’t the Liberal opposition (AKA the CBC) interested in this story until the former PM made his book “Memoirs” public? Why did the CBC go as far as travelling to Europe with the crew of “Fifth Estate” to make an attemt at slandering the former PM one more time? Did you ever calculate the costs of sending a TV crew to
Switzerland, Germany etc. Why is no one questioning what portion of the CBC’s $1.2 billion budget went towards their was against Brian Mulroney?
And last but not least, since when do we allow jailbirds to make the decisions as to whom gets investigated, and who doesn’t? Are we back in the 1970’s Trudeau era when the media was the government? Wake up Canada!
“Amen to that John Chittick!!” ditto from me too. It seems that the only thing “inquireries” can do is spend tax dollars. they have no teeth to do anything or recover anything so why bother.Although Muloonie was an arrogant asshat, he was a rookie compaired to the lieberal machine. Remember, it was completely normal to get a hand written receipt on a paper napkin during Shawinnigate. The MSM attempt to link PM Harper to all this is laughable and dion’s reaction is worthy of TV Bloopers.
The CBC website has today (November 13/ 07) had Dion’s screeching about the Mulroney/ Schreiber affair as their top news story since 7AM. CTV and Global are busy covering the funeral of the latest RCMP member to be killed in Canada’s north. Evidently, the brain trust at the Mother Corp feels giving traction to a moldy, decade old scandal is more important than recognizing fallen police officers.
Harper has called for a public enquiry , just on CBC .
Crucify Mulrooney if he took liberty with his elite position of trust, and jail him if he broke the law in any way.
Party affiliation is no bother.
Crime is crime.
Dirty politicians are just that, dirty politicians .
The politicos punishment should be harsher than the sentence given the citizens commiting like offences, since our political masters have promised to uphold their office and sworn an extra oath to do their utmost.
Bury this corrupt bunch of Power/Desmaris thugs that have damaged our country to perhaps beyond repair status.
Progressive conservatives, liberals and dippers a crook is a crook.
Heads on Pikes!
Go Prime Minister Steve!
If Mulroney is also calling for a public inquiry, he must be pretty confident the facts will vindicate him.
The money Schreiber admitted to giving Mulroney was done AFTER Mulroney left office and Schreiber believed an ex-PM would have some influence.
If Mulroney did nothing to further Schreiber’s cause (and with the Liberals in office, how could he?), where is the case?
If it had anything to do with the original case, which cost the taxpayers of Canada $2.5 million due to the sloppiness of the Liberal party, why would Mulroney make a call to reopen the case?
Well, if you read Jim Roach, an ex-CBC,CRTC employee’s rant in the link, you’ll suspect that the CBC has some kind of grudge against Mulroney. The rant is pure demented leftism, including spittle against Bush, the USA, pro-Muslim anti-Westernism, anti-Harper…typical dementia of the left.
There is absolutely no reason to conclude that Harper should have or did, see Schreiber’s original letters. After all, the issue had been dealt with by a previous govt, at great cost to the govt. Was Harper supposed to, on the desire of someone known to be an unreliable witness (a nice way of saying: he lies)…open up the case?
If it was sent to the NDP, why didn’t they say anything months ago?
I’m claiming that the Liberals are directly involved in assisting and promoting Schreiber. They are feeding him information, they are carrying information from him.
The MSM of Canada, in particular the CBC, Star, G&M and CTV, have openly moved out of any pretence of being provisors of news. They are openly acting as the Liberal Ministry of Propaganda.
It’s an insane attempt. How can you, logically or empirically, conclude that Harper is corrupt, because Mulroney is corrupt? It’s insane.
But that’s exactly what Jim Travers in the Toronto Star is attempting. That’s what Dion and his backroom boys are attempting.
If Chretien was a money-laundering crook, is Dion a money-laundering crook? If Martin was a tax evader, is Dion a tax evader? The Liberals are insane. And desperate.
I wonder. I don’t think the Liberals will like a full inquiry; they are involved with Schreiber. They won’t like this coming out. I think they would have preferred that Harper refuse.
Bill D Cat,
Thanks….well lots of money will be spent….but there was lots of money spent of Gomery, which was Kinsella’s complaint about the whole thing.
Anyway, I am sure Harper wouldnt have called the inquiriy without having some sense of what it might show. As well though, it doesnt matter to him, there is no upside to preventing an iquiry, the opposition is calling for one, the main protaganists are calling for one so other than budget why wouldnt they get one.
Look if Mulroney took a bribe then he shopudl go to jail, if there was a conspiracy to defame an individual in this country, whether it was a former PM or not, then those people should go to jail. That means Alan Rock, P Martine, J Chretien and the political operatives who carried out their deeds.
Or maybe just maybe Schreiber is a greasy operator who is squeeking about things made up to keep his ass in Canada and neither of the above two grand conspiracies is true.
I wonder when Occum Razor will be invoked.
According to Stevie Cameron’s ‘On The Take’- the RCMP were preparing to lay 22 criminal charges against members of Mulgoonie’s cabinet, when orders came directly from the PMO’s office to shut down the investigation.
Many of us still remember that CF18 contract- but perhaps more of us should remember Quebec being given it’s own Department of Immigration by this sleazebag! (Do people imported into Quebec have to remain in Quebec- of course not!)
Yes, ET, and now I’m really wondering why Schreiber didn’t send this “letter” to the Liberals; after all the NDP got a copy, and as you rightly say, did nothing. Then again, correct me if I’m wrong, Jack Layton isn’t making this a big issue like Dion is. I find it hard to believe Schreiber didn’t send letter to Liberals too. If he did, they will look really bad, with big time egg on their face.
Bottom line, Dion looks desperate trying to link up two PMs, with 13 years of Liberal rule in between. They are assuming a man, sitting in prison fighting extradition and certain prison time, is telling either the truth or has raised any new revelation that can be relied on. I suspect time will tell us no. Dion is weakened right now, and is hoping this will save him. In the end, I suspect, when “facts” are known, there will be nothing actionable, so Dion will look really weak and desperate.
Does anyone actually believe Harper is involved in coverup, or that Mulroney has more to hide, especially given he has called for public inquiry himself? If Dion and Grits feel so strongly about this, they should make their accusations against Harper and Mulroney outside the privilege of the HofC. Then we would see if they are willing to back up their accusations.
BTW, what happened in Holland affair, where he was apparently taped having Tory documents, marked for movement to their new offices. These files contained personal files and an accusation of contempt of parliament was made to Speaker of the House. What happened here.
Liberals should be careful what they wish for. The Adscam money has not been recovered and Gomery couldn’t make direct assigned of civil or criminal culpability. To date no major Liberal political operative has been fully investigated. Let’s get on with this investigation. If Schreiber accusations spark expensive investigation, let’s get the Adscam money back, and check again into sales receipts written on napkins, golf course clubhouses mysteriously burning down, or senior civil servants having their homes searched on the word of a senior Liberal. All of this actually happened, and is far more serious than this present row.
The great powerful Liberal machine has shot itself in the foot again. Maybe Dion will go all the way, check the latest G&M poll, and force election. Oh yeah, Canadians don’t want one right now. But, one can hope.
PM Harper warned the Lie-berals, ” does the opposition really want to give me these powers to investigate previous governments?”
STATEMENT BY THE PRIME MINISTER
November 13, 2007
Ottawa, Ontario
[…]
“If in reviewing material, the independent party finds any prima facie evidence of criminal action he or she will identify this and advise how this should be handled and what impact, if any, it should have on the nature and timing of the inquiry.” …-
Citoyen Dion says:
“That’s not fair, you don’t know what you speak about!”
Yes, shamrock – it’s fascinating. I’m wondering if the Liberals have walked themselves into quicksand.
The Liberals are by no means ‘squeaky clean’. The mandate of the Gomery Inquiry prevented him from investigating and laying any civil or criminal charges against politicians – and the Liberals claims that ‘Gomery exonerated our politicians’ is pure nonsense. And, as you say, Chretien’s many backroom dealings with loans and new roads etc for his buddies…well…
Why didn’t Shreiber send a copy of his letter to the Liberals? Why just to the CPC and NDP? It makes absolutely no sense. Unless..the Liberals were already involved. But, are they that dumb not to insist on a cover letter being sent to them?
Schreiber is supposed to be deported tomorrow. Will his tactic be successful? Will he be granted a stay? If he isn’t, the Liberals and their Propaganda Machine will be screeching that ‘this will prevent justice’.
I’m still wondering..I don’t think that the Liberals really wanted a full inquiry. Why was Dion supposedly caught ‘off guard’ when Mulroney said – Do it, and Harper agreed/
Today’s QP was full of canned questions from the Liberals, asking the same question over and over after it had been answered. Many were out of line. The Speaker of the House is a useless tool, he’s merely filling a chair.
Mark Holland is one of the blowbag tools along with Ruby Dhalla, both exhibitionists without substance.
Never forget the little General himself, Denis Coderre, he had a little vitriol to spew too, nothing of importance. Then a line-up of the usual subjects like Goodale and Dosey Doh Dosanj.
The Conservatives have nothing to fear from an inquiry, the Liberals are in for some rougher sledding than they can even imagine.
Harper is relaxed and shows no sign of a man who could be accused of anything in this Mulroney phase 11, it could be very costly for Mulroney’s accusers.
Get ready for a tsunami of MSM articles like this.
Today the liberals succeeded in changing the channel, For now.
The liberals need this to try & show Dion as a strong leader not the weak at knees that he actualy is.
Look at the numbers, Dion now below Layton.
PM & Nicholson showed calm in the midst of the storm, indicating that they have nothing to fear or hide.
So like i said the liberals succeeded today in changing the channel, For Now.
Call an election Steven!!!
that cf 18 thingy got me to
vote REEEEEEEFOOOOORMMMM
However like harper says, lets widen adscam too take the blinders off that were on the original commission.
Why were only judges made from lawyers who gave to the liberal party all that jazz.
Who was in charge, I mean there is no way these guys are going to steal money from taxpayers to give it to the liberal party without arm twisting.
They would have kept it for themselves.
Has the LPC payed back the $250 million they stole from the public in adscam?
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux
Or the 1 billion via HRDC
I’ve studied Harper for years now…There is’nt a corruptible bone in that man’s body.
I say this is a set up (From Harper with the help of Mulroney) to squeeze and embarrass the media (Specifically CBC) who seem to have ignitiated this with probably the Liberals in the shadows and potentially bring up more Adscam style mud which Dijon is either unaware of or in desperation, too stupid to stay away from.
Would’nt it be sweet, if the CBC are found guilty of slander and smear to a point where Harper can set up another referendum, this time in an attempt to bring down this lame excuse of a taxpayer funded Liberal propping machine?
Many right wing minded Canucks want the CBC gone (Harper & Mulroney wants them gone too I’m sure)…This could be in preparation for just that.
Or, but less likely, a future door opener to check Cretin and Martin past misdeeds?
Has anyone watched QP today? The PM was all grin to a point where Taliban Jack said “This is no laughing matter…” Something up, and it aint going to hurt the PM or his team.
How does it go again?: “The opposition plays checkers will the PM plays chess”…YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT…HARPER IS THE BOBBY FISHER OF CANADIAN POLITICS.
……. If in reviewing material , the independant party finds any prima facie evidence of criminal action he or she will identify this and advise how this should be handled …..
From Harper’s announcement . Any lawyerly types willing to explain how far this can spread ?
What I mean is …… is this as open ended as I hope ?
The Trudeau Foundation is governed by a distinguished, independent and pan-Canadian Board of Directors, which meets twice annually. Board Members serve for renewable terms of two years.
Chair: Roy L. Heenan
Board Members:
* William G. Davis
* Paul Desmarais, Jr.
* Louise Fréchette
* Alexander Himelfarb
* Chaviva Hošek
* Robert Lacroix
* Marc Lalonde
* Paule Leduc
* Martha Piper
* Robert Rae
* Marc Renaud
* Sean E. Riley
* Alexandre Trudeau
* Milton K. Wong
Distinguished?
Independent?
Notice Marc Lalonde is on this board, he who put up $100,000 towards Scheibers bail.
Why did Justin Trudeau recently resign as a director?
This foundation is where ONE HUNDRED TWENY FIVE MILLION of the NINE BILLION Private Foundations TAXPAYERS DOLLARS went to under Chretien and the Lie-beral’s.
Things that make you go Hmmmm.
Grind a Grit, I really LIKE your new word, “ignitiated”, which perfectly suits this situation: let’s hope the Liberals and their henchpeople at the CBC, Star, and G & M have started a firestorm from which they can’t escape. ‘Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.
Is Edward Greenspan still acting as Schreiber’s lawyer?
Is Eddie Goldenberg still advising Chretien?
I watched Question Period on CPAC this afternoon. I have never seen the Liberals looking so pathetic and desperate. Stephen Harper was amazing — forthright, witty, unflappable, reasonable. He knows that this is a fake issue, kept breathing by the media, and he had to know that Liberal behaviour in the house was purely a reflection on their symbiosis with the Lib-proxy media who are trying to attach Mr. Mulroney’s private-life shenanigans from 15 years ago to this government.
It’s a joke. The Liberals were faking outrage the whole time in QP, asking the same fake questions over and over. What a sad sight for a parliament, to see Liberals taking multiple rephrased shots at a potential Liberal-TV soundbite.
Liberals. Mark Holland….can almost make you sick; you actually have to see him in action in the house of commons to understand how little credibility he has. It’s like he thinks no one will notice that he pretends to believe that fake outrage, with nada to back it up, is a powerful debating tool. His belief that Canadians are as credulous as he is cynical just oozes out of his pores.
Ujal Dosanj and Ruby Dhalla behaved shamefully. Both unleashed dumb, pointless, mean-spirited, absolutely groundless attacks on the honour and character of Justice Minister Rob Nicholson, for no good reason, in a craven, futile fake attempt to try to drum up some momentum.
At one point Dosanj, evilly faking high dudgeon in that way of his, voiced, as the meat of his point, this accusation: Nicholson was at one time a secretary in Mulroney’s government.
One Liberal asked, as a “gotcha”, words to the effect of “How can we know that (no Conservative) will speak to Mr. Mulroney?”
Ralph Goodale bellowed, with a straight face, a demand to know whether Mulroney, when he returned from his meeting in New York, had paid GST upon his return.
Dominic Leblanc described the “issue” — i.e. the private actions of a former prime minister 14 years ago in a Hotel room, after he’d left office, and which involved private — not taxpayer’s — money, and in an amount dwarfed by the Liberal-assembled money-laundering scheme — as “a scandal that goes right to the heart of the Conservative government.”
Liberal and their media. Having seen QP today, I’m REALLY curious about how The National will cover it tonight. Will they tell the truth — that this doesn’t attach to the Conservatives any more than it does to the Liberals who paid off Mulroney, and that the Liberals behaved shamelessly and used groundless bald insinuation instead of being honest — or will they continue to put the egregious spin they put on it last night by portraying today’s question period as being “heat on the Harper government” and asking if this is the break the Liberals have been waiting for?
Shouldn’t the Liberals, and CBC, be waiting for an *actual* break for the Liberals — you know, hard work, policy, honesty, integrity, that sort of thing? Apparently not. It’s not surprising that the Liberals would attempt to attach Mr. Mulroney’s hotel-room behaviour 15 years ago, after he was out of office, to the current government, but it is surprising that CBC hasn’t reformed even a tiny bit. Perhaps they’re just trying to make it entirely self-evident to any thinking person of any political stripe that anything they describe as “fact” or “news” is always just LPC spin.
Set yer VCRs. If they can’t muster the integrity to call bullshit on this utterly fake tempest, that’ll just about be it for them.
Some points may encapsulate this “issue:”
– Mark Holland’s contempt of parliament case still unexplained by Speaker
– Maybe Dosanj, Holland, Dion and others would like to make accusations outside privileged confines of HofC
– since there is now public inquiry, how can government answer questions. Remember Liberals approach to Adscam questions after Gomery announced
– why didn’t Liberals receive copy of Schreiber’s “letter” when just about everyone else did, the Tories, NDP and media.
– now that Gomery inquiry over, isn’t it about time to do proper criminal investigation, given Gomery Terms of Reference precluded him from doing so?
– how incompetent are Liberals to push investigation into their libelous conduct which has already cost taxpayers big bucks? Should we investigate their conduct in that affair now.
– again, now that inquiry launched, how wide should terms of reference be; IMO they should include above-mentioned settlement by Chretien government with Mulroney, and subsequent shut down of further inquiries
My guess, Harper and Mulroney will mop floor with this faux outraged bunch who will likely embarass themselves and taint Liberal brand further.
From 1988 till today…..hmmmm….what terms of reference could they mean.
Could it be that the inquiry would be wide ranging to cover all conduct at senior levels of government. Investigate all of it, including the cosying up and toadying of journalists and bureaucrats, jornalists and politicians, politicains and lobbyists…..too broad, too unfocussed and too expensive.
It will likely focus on the Airbus, the question is will the terms of reference be broad enough for the inquiry to “stumble” across other things. Such as the the golf course thing with Chretien or the CSL jiggery pokery with Martin….
I think it needs to be a focussed inquiry, unless they find that Mulroney is onnocent, then the whole inquiry turns into why the railroading of a single citizen…..ahh thats it! Thats how you get to that investigation.
When Harper began his love affair with Mulroney, I predicted that he would be bitten in the ass, and now he has. He probably thought at the time that it was good strategy but, at least he has now had the common sense to push the old rogue under the wheels of the CPC campaign bus.
Funny – when we created the Reform Party, one of it’s principal objectives was to get rid of Lyin’ Brian and destroy the federal PC Party, and Harper was one of the architects. We came so close and, as Dick Harris said, “We had the PCs on the floor, with a foot on their throat, but we let them up!”
I firmly believe that Harper is clean, but shit thrown at random sometimes sticks in unlikely places. Methinks that the high ground has been lost (AGAIN), not through shady dealings but through bad strategy. Too bad.
I get a solid chuckle when the opposition parties and of course the MSM milk this whole idea of a letter that Harper should have seen and hence…should have known about this whole affair.
Are these the same people who jumped on the Lib bandwagon about adscam saying that the PMO didn’t know? So Harper should have seen a letter however it is ok the Libs missed millions of dollars being funnelled to friends??
The leftnuts think they are playing a game called “Gotcha” however why do I think this will play out against the Libs and their formers esteemed leaders?
Let me know if anyone captures to Youtube that Harper – Dion exchange from CTV where Dion “won’t take yes for an answer”.
I’ve said this before, Harper is to politics as Kasparov is to chess. To all of you that think Harper has made a mistake by bringing Mulroney on board perhaps you might want to rethink your position. Mulroney maybe the backdoor into the Liberal stronghold. Harper knew he wouldn’t stand a chance with a frontal attack on the Trudeau/Chretien/Martin redoubt, however gained entry through the back door can accomplish the same objective. The present liberals have cried out for an inquiry into a minor fiscal intransigence of a past prime minister, by their action they may have opened the back door to their castle and in so doing Harper may end up hanging their dirty laundry from the ramparts. We truly live in interesting times and they may get a lot more interesting in the coming months.
“The present liberals have cried out for an inquiry into a minor fiscal intransigence of a past prime minister, by their action they may have opened the back door to their castle and in so doing Harper may end up hanging their dirty laundry from the ramparts.”
My hope is you are correct in your assessment ANTENOR, however much depends on the scope or terms of reference the independent Inquiry person recommends.
If it remains narrowly focused the cash stuffed brown envelopes of the Chretien / Martin government malfeasance will not find their way into this inquiry and will remain buried forever.
Since taxpayers are going to be on the hook anyway, hopefully the terms of refernce will be all encompassing of past government corruption as well.
Observing the media frenzy and the spin while making Karlheinz a celebrity in this mess makes one wonder where MSM was while the Libs were doing their own brown envelope dirty work.
More enablers than corruption investigators on that file, in my view.
I sense our MSM are gunning for Harper in this as much as for Mulroney.
Hush money? Hush, hush, sweet Karlheinz.
“If the courts grant him [the jailbird] bail again, I [Lalonde] would have no problem giving surety.”
That’s Liberal Marc Lalonde, the ex-architect of Trudeau’s NEP, the Liberal National Energy Program, aka The Rape of Alberta.
Lalonde: “Lalonde insisted Schreiber’s payment to his firm was done conventionally.
“I didn’t see exactly how it came, but I’m sure it didn’t come in cash. It came either through a bank transfer or through a cheque.” …-
Former Trudeau-era minister stands by longtime friend Schreiber
Jim Bronskill, THE CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA – Former Liberal minister Marc Lalonde says he would gladly post bail again for businessman Karlheinz Schreiber, just as the Trudeau-era cabinet member has done several times over the last eight years. …-
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=104030&Itemid=266
Well Ralphie Goodale announced that the Liberals did receive a letter….but that they sent it straight on the RCMP, but Dion didnt read it, he was just told about it.
Listened to Spector on CTV and As It Happens. Convinced there would many caught in this web….he has had questions since the time it happened, but definitely feels “it wouldnt be contained to the Conservative Party”
“When there is a Liberal party in government a Conservative lobbyist doesnt do you any good”
Hmmmmmm, wonder, I wonder….
Harper’s actions on this have been swift and decisive — despite Liberal attempts to make it appear otherwise. I totally agree that it would have been inappropriate for Harper to respond to anything Schreiber sent even if he had seen the letters — until the legal affadavit last Friday. I am also pleased about Mulroney’s boldness in saying bring on the enquiry. I am beginning to think that Mulroney may not have done anything particularly dishonest — certainly not as Prime Minister. One reason is Schreiber’s complaint that Mulroney didn’t deliver the agreed upon services for the $300,000 — well, I don’t guess that could have been the Airbus could it . . . since that contract was delivered. Also if it turns out that the “cash” request was Schreibers, rather than Mulroney’s, then again he may have been naive, but not dishonest. What I do think is that there is a good chance that much of this will backfire . . . Mulroney will come forth with what he knows, as will Schreiber. If the Liberals are using him, I doubt they can depend on his loyalty. Schreiber was well connected internationally and I expect his revelations will undoubtedly hang a few people. I am not convinced that Mulroney will be one of them.
Librano$ in bed with convicts? Citoyen Dion-Liberals collude/consort/conspire with the jailbird? What’s new?
…-
“He [the jailbird] has become something of a technical adviser to the party on the Mulroney affair.”
National Post confirms Citoyen Dion-Liberals/NDP “received similar Schreiber packages”.
“But all the party leaders received similar Schreiber packages and failed to spot any fresh revelations, so it’s hard for them to tar and feather Harper for failing to sound the alarm.”
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=a6444ac6-6f49-4106-a465-5e7d6ec3a942
Liberals, NDP didn’t go public with Schreiber documents
By Jennifer Ditchburn, The Canadian Press
OTTAWA – Karlheinz Schreiber sent copies of red-hot documents to the Liberals and NDP two weeks ago detailing correspondence with Prime Minister Stephen Harper, but neither party went public with the provocative contents. […]
“The Liberals and NDP received the same letters from Schreiber well before Harper’s news conference last week, and before news organizations began writing about the details.
Schreiber mailed packages to party offices that arrived Nov. 2.
An NDP spokesman said the package was overlooked in the correspondence office until a few days ago.
The Liberals say they began sifting through the contents on Nov. 5, then sent everything to the RCMP on Nov. 8.
“It was damaging enough that Mr. Dion’s first instinct was to send it to the RCMP,” said Liberal MP Robert Thibault. […]
Still, Dion did not address the media before Harper’s news conference on the issue of Schreiber’s letter.
Schreiber has been in frequent contact with the Liberals, trying to find allies in his fight against extradition to Germany where he faces fraud, bribery and tax evasion charges. He has become something of a technical adviser to the party on the Mulroney affair.
Thibault has met with Schreiber for lunches and coffees in Ottawa to discuss his case, and spoke to him as recently as Tuesday morning about the continuing controversy. He first contacted Schreiber’s lawyer last spring, when details of the $300,000 cash payments to Mulroney surfaced.
But Schreiber did not share his key allegation with Thibault that discussions on the payment happened before Mulroney left his post as prime minister.
“I know what he’s trying to gain, he’s fighting his extradition and he wants to remain in Canada,” said Thibault.
“I want him to remain in Canada, I want him to testify on these matters and I want there to be a full public inquiry.” …-
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/071113/national/liberals_ndp_schreiber
I’ve said elsewhere the Desperadoes, Goodale, Coderre, Jennings and their pathetic excuse for a leader had better stock up on Depends and be careful what they wish for.
Mulroney has had about enough of these accusations and he’ll show no mercy on his accusers.
Addendum:
Here is the liar; caught in his own lies. Citoyen Dion also said he knew nothing about Ad$cam. Dion’s credibility is less than zero; he is an inveterate, congenital liar.
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“Mr. Dion said the Liberals never received the letter” …-
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071113.wqp113/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview
So Dion has claimed that the Liberals never received the letter, Goodale claims that they did but Dion never saw it, and then Thibault claims that Dion’s first instinct was to forward it to the RCMP. Looks like both Dion and Goodale are lying. Were any of these statements made in the House of Commons, and what’s the rule about lying in the House?