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Just how do you, blame the Christians types, define a Christian country? Germany was hardly Christian at the time with a tremendous rise in the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche and other anthrocentric philosophies. Can we really say Canada is a Christian nation just because 80% of the country feels something favorable of Jesus Christ when polled and much lower percentage attend or adhear to the doctrines of a church. There seems to be moral vacuum in the country that is counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Though the many liberal state churches and seminaries joined with the Nazi’s one cannot ignore that many other churhes fought valiantly against the regiem. Consider one of my heros,Dietrich Bonheoffer. His mentors Martin Niemoller and Karl Barth. The many pastors and seminaries that went underground for fear of being exposed as being against Nazi’s because they refused to worship Hitler’s image. My own family was Christian Reformed and was involved in the Dutch underground sabatoging the evil of the Nazi’s. How do you explain the actions of a Corrie Ten Boom that hid many Jews from the concentration camps at a tremdous cost to there own lives. Nothing the Nazi’s did was in the name of Christ but in the name of Adolph Hitler. Hence, the difference between Christianity and Islam. The Christian advances a true message of peace, not by the edge of a sword but by the Word of God. The Christian preaches grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. such a message will always conflict with states and philosophies that want the undivided loyalty of it’s people. The Bible says through the apostle Paul…”the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ.” 2 Cor. 10: 4-5
In other words anyone that may try to advance Christianity by the sword is no Christian because they are not obeying Christ. The Kingdom of God advances one convicted heart at a time.
Kingstonlad – Islamowhackjobs homicide bombing innocent civilians is done in the name of God.
So what? It’s just an excuse. For Germans it was twisted racial theory. But thanks at least for acknowledging my original point – Christians killed far more people than Muslims in the 20th century.
The point of all this? People don’t need their religion for an excuse to start killing each other. And just because your religion preaches against killing doesn’t mean you won’t.
When, as a nominal Christian, you participate in mass murder, you are not acting as a Christian (no sacred text supports your behaviour). When Islamofascists mass-murder they are acting as very devout Muslims and they have all the late Medina “sword” verses to support them. The Koran counsels subjugation and/or mass murder of infidels.
Belisarius, you’re must playing with semantics here.
Joe…I’m also an NAB church planter. Where did you plant?
Drop a line
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I have some vey good news!
Just heard, that effective Nov 1 the White House is going to change the cliche phrase “Islam is one of the world’s great religions” TO “Islam as “one of the world’s BIG religions”.
Correction:
you’re totally crazy to try and equate Nazi mass murder with Muslim mass-murder
should have read Islamic mass-murder.
There’s no moderate Islam, radical Islam. Only Islam practiced or lapsed (very very quietly of course). Do you understand Islam better than Ayaan Hirsi Ali?
Try opening your mind. Did you even bother to visit Reza Aslan’s site? He understands Islam a hell of a lot better than Ali. What about Irshad Manji’s site? Or freemuslims.org? There are plenty of moderate, reform-minded Muslims.
As for your continued pressing of the abrogation theory (note the word: theory), I find it interesting how Jihadists and Muslim-haters use the same justification. Try googling “Quran” “abrogation”, skip the usual gaggle of anti-Islamic sites such as jihadwatch and read what Muslims themselves say. Even for those who believe in this theory, there is precious little agreement, particularly on which verses should be considered “abrogated”. Modern religious scholars generally do not support the theory.
MND – When, as a nominal Christian, you participate in mass murder, you are not acting as a Christian (no sacred text supports your behaviour).
I agree with you. Although, even so Christians throughout history have managed to find scriptural justifications for their violent acts. Generally, this means they have pulled quotes out of context or misinterpreted divine guidance.
When Islamofascists mass-murder they are acting as very devout Muslims and they have all the late Medina “sword” verses to support them. The Koran counsels subjugation and/or mass murder of infidels.
Not true. Violence is only permitted to be used in self-defence. Those using only select quotes from the Quran and ignoring others are not following the precepts of their own religion. Don’t forget, Christians and Jews lived in Muslim-controlled lands for 1400 years, without being subjected to mass murder or forced conversion. If the Quran really did call for their their mass murder, why didn’t it happen when they had the chance?
Knight99 seems to be in the dark. He writes about a Baptist missionary, who says, ” ‘Our activities can lead to people dying, we are aware of that. But to spend eternity in heaven and not in hell – seems like a good deal’.
“What gives this idiot [the missionary] the right to decide that for you or me? How truly would he know what’s good or right for anyone?”
Knight99, the missionary can only PROPOSE. It’s the CHOICE of the person in Iraq to accept the teaching or not. And, if the missionary’s message is rejected, the Iraqi will not be murdered by the Christian. If the Iraqi accepts the message and is murdered for doing so, who’s to blame: the missionary, the convert, or the Muslim jihadist?
And what’s this rubbish about Christians turning on each other in the future in bloody warfare? “Guaranteed there will be bloodshed, it’s simply a matter of who has the support of the government at that time.” Huh?
FYI: The separation of church and state is an American doctrine, which was put in place to protect believers from the arbitrary use of the power of the state–not the other way around. Read that a few times, Knight.
Canada has no doctrine of separation of church and state. I guess that’s why the state, using the Charter and our kangaroo courts, the Human Rights (sic) Commissions, has been persecuting Canadian Christians for expressing the “wrong” ideas. If the use of the punitive power of the state to keep Christians in line bothers you, Knight, perhaps you could gallop to their defence. (Funny, no practitioners of other religions, no matter how repressive and non-PC their beliefs, seem to be hauled before the HRCs . . . )
I don’t think I’d be too worried about the Christians, Knight. The Muslims . . . that’s another story. And, as the Canadian state has already decided to jackboot the practitioners of certain religions, your worrying about the non-existent separation of church and state seems, at the least, disingenuous.
He who hath eyes/ears, let him see/hear. For a Knight, you seem particularly non vigilant.
Wake up, sir, and breathe in the unpleasant smells already in the air.
The GERMANS carried out the holocaust. The Nazis were the political party in power, widely supported by the population.
Belisarius, the nazi ideology and their supporters carried out the murders. Most German’s were Christians but the whole idea of an Aryan Race rejected Christian teachings and relegated it to simply be used as a mechanism for manipulation and propaganda. It seems you want to paint Christians at that time as being ideological supporters of the nazis, they were not. The True Christian Germans were helping and hiding Jews from the nazis; Oskar Schindler [Catholic] comes to mind. Hitler was as much a practicing Christian as Haj Amin was a practicing Jew.
Christians are just as capable of atrocity as anybody else.
The problem Belisarius is you’re attributing Roman Christian and Greek Christian conduct from centuries ago to todays Christians.
At least 100,000 Bosnian Muslims were murdered by Serbian Christians (and possibly as many as 300,000). The massacre of the 8000 inhabitants of Srebrenica is the best known incident of this war.
Srebrenica indeed was a massacre but the other figures I’d need to see a link for. Clintonista acknowledged, to his credit, that his claims of genocide that he based his war on were grossly exaggerated. Russia has also had problems with its Muslims- the Chechens- and has had to level Grozny- the capital. There always seems to be a common denominator in these conflicts; that’s not to excuse what happened at Srebrenica.
At least 100,000 Bosnian Muslims were murdered by Serbian Christians (and possibly as many as 300,000). The massacre of the 8000 inhabitants of Srebrenica is the best known incident of this war.
I heard a Canadian diplomat posted to the former Yugoslavia explain that the Bosnian conflict was started by the Muslim population a fact that as he said was never reported in the media.
He was in the area at the time and not me so I can not confirm or deny what he said except to say that that is what he said.
Belisarius:
Not true. Violence is only permitted to be used in self-defence
No, no no. Kill the unbelievers, wherever you find them. He who leaves Islam, kill him (not exact words). etc etc etc.
Semantic alert: Self-defence: The call is made to the unbelievers to submit to Islam, the call is ignored, the attack is launched. Fundamentalists consider this self-defence. No really.
As many analysts who know Islam have pointed out, this is what Ahmadinejad has done with those little lectures and in that long letter to Bush. Made the call.
You’re wrong, Belisaurius.
Again, cognitive egocentrism: you’ve got to be alert to the linguistic nuances here.
Did you ever see that video interview of Anjem Choudry with regard to the killing of “innocent civilians”. He admitted that only muslims are “innocent” — unbelievers are “guilty” of not embracing Allah.
There are two spheres Dar Al Harb (the land of war where we are) and Dar Al Islam. “Peace” is when it’s all Dar Al Islam.
Let’s not give “Peace a Chance” with these well-meaning apologetics.
Much more to be thankful for today; a rich exchange from Bible believers using the freedom of the internet, and the pronouncement of God’s word………..bluetech
bluetech exemplifies the attitude and perspective of the Judeo/Christian West.
Now, a perspective from a Muslim Canadian [I believe he is one of the mythical moderates I hear about. The real reformers and enlightened thinkers are the Muslim apostates]…………..
A Toronto mosque called, National Post reports, The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque says to “avoid participating” in dinners, parties or greetings on Thanksgiving because it is a kuffaar, or non-Muslim, celebration. Not only is this surprising, but the term kuffaar is a derogatory one meaning “ingrate” that was once applied to slaves.
“How can we bring ourselves to congratulate or wish people well for their disobedience to Allah? Thus expressions such as: Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday, Happy New Year, etc, are completely out,” it says.
In 2003, the Khalid mosque, which mainly serves the Toronto Somali-Canadian community, apologized for a newsletter that compared wishing someone a Merry Christmas to congratulating a murderer.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/thanks_but_no_thanksgiving.html
Good times, good times.
There are no Christian missionary groups anywhere in the world that receive any U.S. government funding for evangelistic work such as church planting. And no missionary groups report to any branch of government. That about kills any theory that Christian missionary work is linked to U.S. or Western foreign policy in any way.
But that separation of church and state must be almost impossible to fathom for people who support theorcratic muslim regimes and “Islamic Republics” where the state and relgious institutions reinforce each other.
Any evangelical Christian, (who by the way are NOT fundamentalists) in the U.S., Canada or Europe will know that any “war” metaphor describing their activities refer to strictly spiritual and internal struggles. But it is in the Jihadists self-interest to highlight any phrase that gives credence to their deluded belief that “Christianity” (i.e., the West) is waging war on Islam.
But that also exposes the motivations of the Jihadists: they are the one’s who started the “Holy War” and they are very clear that they believe they must wage literal, material battle against Christianity. That is why they persecute the Christians in their own countries and refer to peaceful missionaries as invaders, and crusaders.
Unfortunately they cannot win for the Christians weapons are much stronger than all the suicide bomb belts, and car bombs and hostage takings, and all the armies of Sunni’s, Shiites and Iran combined. As David said to Goliath, “You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the LORD Almighty”. As St. Paul said, “The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power”.
The true Christians have always come with love, forgiveness, prayer and yes, even the blood of our martyrs – like the two Korean Christians murdered for their faith in Afghanistan just a few weeks ago. The Roman empire fell before these mighty weapons, and so will Islamic terror.
Belisarius are you down on strudel as well?
Let’s cut to the chase here. The holocaust was committed by Germans. Germans are fond of apple strudel. Therefore, the perpetrators of the holocaust were strudel eaters. End of story.
Now I don’t believe strudel eating is a belief system with a moral code such as let’s say; “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil”.
So if a German indulged in strudel before a shift at the gas chamber he could still be called a strudel eater but is he still a Christian?
Thanks Doug, lumping me with Belisarius and albatros39a has been the best giggle of the day for me.
Appolyon – Srebrenica indeed was a massacre but the other figures I’d need to see a link for.
Check out the book, “The Bridge Betrayed” by Michael Sells. For links I suggest google.
MND – Semantic alert: Self-defence: The call is made to the unbelievers to submit to Islam, the call is ignored, the attack is launched. Fundamentalists consider this self-defence. No really.
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188043914402&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE
Appolyon – Srebrenica indeed was a massacre but the other figures I’d need to see a link for.
Check out the book, “The Bridge Betrayed” by Michael Sells. For links I suggest google.
MND – Semantic alert: Self-defence: The call is made to the unbelievers to submit to Islam, the call is ignored, the attack is launched. Fundamentalists consider this self-defence. No really.
Check out the FAQ at “readingislam.com”
Reading Islam is a project of the “Mercy for All” Endowment in Qatar.
Didn’t see the FAQ. No matter.
Are you quite serious?
Cal, your logic is inescapable. But the Nazis were NOT fond of apple strudel, considering it a dessert of the weak. Instead, they ate the traditional, tough Maple Nuts favoured by the Aryan worshippers of Thor.
Cripes, I can’t believe I’ve wasted much of two days commenting in this endless, circular argument.
MND – Didn’t see the FAQ. No matter.Are you quite serious?
I think the FAQ is called, “Ask About Islam”. This seems to be a site managed by moderate Muslims, so they should know something about their own religion, right?
Oh the relativist crap. This is a load of bollocks. Can I be plainer? The several million fundamentalist Christians int eh USA are not out for world domination; the Christian creed and doctrine does not say this,. The islamic one does explicitly state this. So, is she saying muslims in Utah have to pay a special tax and be subserviabnt?
bollocks.
I’m not sure how all this discussion about Nazis started.
But Hitler definitely was not a Christian.
Hitler was a big fan of Schopenhauer, and Shopenhauer’s The World as Will and Representation is a restatement of the Upanishads. In place of a divinity, Schopenhauer posited a transcendental, blind will toward manifestation.
Hitler may have had some interest in Christianity during the period he was attracted to Wagner. With the operas Lohengrin and even more particularly Parsival (an adaptation of the Grail legend, by Wolfram von Eschenbach). There was nothing orthodox about the gnostic Christian ideal surrounding the Grail legend.
At the time of Mallory (Mort d’Arthur) the Grail could still be seen as the Cerridwen (cauldron of wisdom), a factor in the mythology of the Tuatha De Dannan. By the time Idles of the King was written by Tennyson, the Grail had become the cup Jesus used at the Last Supper.
All of this and more was incorporated and re-cognized to have its place in the concoction of the Aryan mythology OK’d by Himmler.
Eventually Hitler abandoned any consideration for Christianity.
In the war as a soldier he felt he had discovered that the ultimate purpose of man could only be found in struggle. He completely rejected the idea of Christianity because he saw Jesus as someone who completely abandoned his own life for altruistic motives when the true purpose of life was to find oneself in the process of overcoming great vicissitudes. He had no respect for someone who willngly went to their own death. His hero would have been an Aryan warrior who fought to the last breath, taking as many with him as he could.
So Christianity was a complete anathema to Hitler.
Just a word about this atheist/Christian debate. If people debate the tenets of religion in a serious way, the find themselves leaving behind pastors and priests and moving into the realm of theology.
Should one’s debate actually propel one into what might be called the “intellectual realm” of religious apologetics, things become very complicated. In theology, one encounters very sophisticated thinkers completely versed in philosophy, psychology, ancient languages, and virtually the history of thought for the last five millennia.
One finds oneself in an entirely different atmosphere of argument that is not susceptible to simplistic ideas.
Just finished reading Culture Warrior by Bill O’Reilly.
I can now see even clearer how traditional values are under attack in the US by the socialist one-world agenda.
Europe, of course, is long gone and has lost sight of the Judeo-Christian values that formed the basis of American culture. The key word being values.
Canada is not far behind, but thanks to websites like this, decent human beings have a chance to understand they are not alone.
But Hitler definitely was not a Christian.
Plenty of evidence to the contrary.
http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
Check out the book, “The Bridge Betrayed” by Michael Sells. For links I suggest google.
I’ll look into the book but unsubstantiated wild claims are just that, unsubstantiated wild claims.
http://www.birn.eu.com/en/88/10/3377/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6228152.stm
http://bavault.blogspot.com/2007/07/bosnias-book-of-dead-numbers-and-memory.html
OK, I’m not going to get dragged into this rather preposterous argument about Christianity and Hitler.
Let me just point out that Jesus was a Jew. And Jesus was also a pacifist from Hitler’s understanding. Hitler was trying to do away with Jews and regarded Christianity as simply another outgrowth of Judaism.
Hitler was entirely devoted to Schopenhauer and Nitsche, and anyone who knows anything about these two philosphers understands that you can’t be a Christian and also profess the views they espoused.
Hitler thought that the crucifixion was “the very personification of the denial of the will to live.”
In his Munich speech he said, “The Jew has never founded any civilization, though he has destroyed hundreds. He possesses nothing of his own creation to which he can point. Everything he has stolen. Foreign peoples, foreign workers built his temple; it is foreigners who create and work for him. He has no art of his own; bit by bit he has stolen it from other peoples. He does not even know how to preserve the precious things they have created… In the last resort it is the Aryan who can form states and set them on their paths to future greatness. All this the Jew cannot do. And because he cannot do it, therefore all his revolution must be international. They must spread as pestilence spreads.”
Incidentally, it was not only Jews and their offshoot, Christianity, that Hitler wanted to get rid of. He also chased out Freemasons and Rudolf Steiner’s Anthroposophy Society.
To get back on topic instead of feeding the shit-for-brains troll, when did Newsworld come up with a German-language edition?
Hitler did embrace the evolution-inspired natural selection theory.
He gave natural selection in his master race theory a bit of a push. He called it eugenics, the cleansing of humanity.
How anybody could attribute this to Christian thought is totally beyond me.
His political party called itself the National Socialist Party.
That particular name and the thrust of its activities, cleansing of undesirable or lesser so-called races, is totally un-Christian.
Christ said: I bring a new commandment and that is to love one another.
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose when arguing in favour of the one-world godless socialist order.
Missionaries? They sent [gasp!] MISSIONARIES to Iraq?!!! Those inhuman bastiges!
Somebody wake me when the Jesuits fly a plane into something in Saudi Arabia. Or maybe a Presbyterian rocket attack on Rexdale mosques. That’d be worth seeing.
To get back on topic instead of feeding the shit-for-brains troll
Nice contribution to the discussion. I take it that any disagreement with the opinion that Muslims are subhuman, murderous savages automatically qualifies one as a troll?
Frankly, this level of discourse makes me embarrassed to call myself a conservative.
Phantom:
Didja just read the last post?
Belasarius claims he’s a conservative.
Haven’t had such a good laugh since your last post.
Nice contribution to the discussion. I take it that any disagreement with the opinion that Muslims are subhuman, murderous savages automatically qualifies one as a troll?
Belisarius, you’re no troll but you are engaging in leftist deception now. Here in the US the liberal idiots [redundancy] like to paint Conservatives as anti-immigration when they know damn well that we’re anti-illegal immigration. I’ve already explained to you, when I refer to jihadists, subhumans, islamists, filthy primitive 7th century Mohammedan throat cutters, I’m referring to the jihadists that would decapitate our children. I am not referring to the decent Muslims. I’m sure we defer on how many “moderates” there are.
Refrain from the liberal doublespeak, it should be beneath you.
Apollyon – I’m referring to the jihadists that would decapitate our children. I am not referring to the decent Muslims. I’m sure we defer on how many “moderates” there are.
You seem to be in the minority in that opinion. Most of the posters here make no distinction between Muslims, and consider that Islam is at its core fundamentally evil. This is where I disagree, and for which I have been attacked.
Islam is at its core fundamentally evil
I agree with this yet recognize there are good Muslims, as the others here do. Generalizing may give the impression that all Muslims are being put under the same jihadist umbrella but that’s not the case.
Belisarius:
You are absolutely wrong in your assertion.
There’s no question in my mind most of the people posting here are intelligent enough to know the difference between jihadists and mainstream Muslims.
Of course, you need to perpetrate that lie in order to advance your own socialist agenda.
That particular tactic may work in your circle of intellectually-challenged followers, but not here. This sounding-board has the ability to call BS on you false assertions.
Belasarius claims he’s a conservative. Haven’t had such a good laugh since your last post.
Whoa, sudden identity crisis, thanks to “set you free”. Well, if I’m a liberal then I want my envelope of cash, and pronto!
Of course, you need to perpetrate that lie in order to advance your own socialist agenda.
How did socialism come into this discussion? And when did it become my “agenda”? Sheesh, talk about paranoid…
There’s no question in my mind most of the people posting here are intelligent enough to know the difference between jihadists and mainstream Muslims.
I hope you’re right. But I’ve seen an awful lot of posts declaring that “there is no such thing as a moderate muslim”.
BS (That’s Belisarius for short):
By your own words will you be judged.
You own words have demonstrated you’re a deceiver.
Until you demonstrate you embrace traditional values, I will continue to assume you are here to cause strife.
Agreed?
I hope you’re right. But I’ve seen an awful lot of posts declaring that “there is no such thing as a moderate muslim”.
The moderate Muslim is so small in number it’s hardly worth mentioning. We know there are groups trying to preach reform but for every one of them there are a hundred mosques with depraved clerics preaching death and destruction. The common denominator between two dozen conflicts on the globe is Islam. We deny it to our own detriment.
I posted a comment from a mosque in your country; it should be troublesome.
“Our activities can lead to people dying, we are aware of that. But to spend eternity in heaven and not in hell – seems like a good deal”.
“What gives this idiot the right to decide that for you or me? How truly would he know what’s good or right for anyone?”
Geez, this place is becoming a magnet for half-baked thought. Here’s a question: Why would their “activities lead to people dying?” Who would be doing the killing?
“It will be interesting to know in the future {hypothetically} if Christianity wins over Islam”
Adherents of the Catholic faith are equal in number to Islam. Now add all the other Christian denominations. In fact, Christianity is still, by far, the world’s fastest growing faith, largely propelled by converts in China.
Belisarius,
“It’s either abrogated, or dualistic. Where there is a peaceful, rational verse earlier in the Quran an opposing violent verse is found later. Either way it’s equally deceiptful. But then Mohammad said himself that “war is deceipt.”
Without this concept there would be no taqiyya or kitman, which the Muslims use to their advantage in conducting passive jihad, or cultural war against its enemies. Imams often say one thing to the infidels, while preaching the opposite to their congregations. This was recently proven again with the Muslim appointee to the Virginia immigration panel.”
Prove otherwise.
Your continuation of your absurd claim that Nazis are Christian and that combined with (so far you haven’t mentioned who these other genocidal Christian regimes are) supports your assertion that Christians killed more people than muslims during the 20th century.
You have been proven wrong over and over. However, it should be pointed out that no rational person should bother even responding to such a bizarre claim. Putting all other facts aside, such as how the occult informed Hitler and the Nazis, proving that they were not Christian – the actions and attrocities commited by the Nazis proves they were not Christian. The NT and Christs life and commands cannot be reconciled with Naziism, no matter what moonbat argument you put forward.
In other words, you can call yourself smart, but your ridiculous claims and unsubstantiated arguments proves to me that you are instead an idiot.
You still hold your same apologist attitude despite the fact that you cannot prove that violence is foundational to Islam, but not to Christianity.
You should bang your head against the nearest available wall before commenting again.
“Set You Free”,
By your own words will you be judged.
By whom?
You own words have demonstrated you’re a deceiver.
Be specific. Vague generalities like this are meaningless drivel. Make a point and I will discuss it. How exactly have I tried to “deceive”?
Until you demonstrate you embrace traditional values, I will continue to assume you are here to cause strife.
What exactly are “traditional values”? I take it that you consider your opinions to be representative of these “traditional values” and that anything to the contrary is “strife” or “deceit”.
So far Phantom has described it best. Not too many missionaries blow up people to prove a point and I can’t remember when the last person to renounce Christ had his/her head lopped off.
ID – …it should be pointed out that no rational person should bother even responding to such a bizarre claim. Putting all other facts aside, such as how the occult informed Hitler and the Nazis, proving that they were not Christian – the actions and attrocities commited by the Nazis proves they were not Christian.
I would agree they were not Christian acts. But the Germans who committed them considered themselves Christians, including Hitler.
http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
In other words, you can call yourself smart, but your ridiculous claims and unsubstantiated arguments proves to me that you are instead an idiot.
I would call you a fanatic. You haven’t proved a damned thing, other than you have poor reading comprehension.
You still hold your same apologist attitude despite the fact that you cannot prove that violence is foundational to Islam, but not to Christianity.
Once again, learn to read. I refer to my previous posts.
And your dismisal of Robert Spencer? How about proving him wrong. He’s invited all detractors to do so and not one can.
And right, ‘no beliefs.com.’ Do you think they might have an axe to grind? Real balanced and rational insight there.
As Christ said, “you shall know them (his followers) by their fruits.” I think he knew what he was talking about when it comes to Christians, no?
Again, violence is foundational to Islam, it is not to Christianity.
Although you’ve been offered the opportunity over and over again, you’ve not addressed this fact. Which can only mean you’ve lost the argument. This applies to your Nazi/Christian claim as well.
As I said, bang your head against the nearest wall. The fat lady has finished singing.
I didn’t even know much, if anything, about Muslims and their existence until about five to ten years ago when women started showing up wearing their head scarves and burkas in my neck of the woods. Sure I heard about Muslims in the news and terrorist attacks in the Middle East against the U.S., but never really seeing much of them on my home turf. So this tells me, Muslims existed prior to this, at least in my life time, not bothering me at all. Obviously, there is a movement in Islam today by radical Muslims who are bent on aiding prophecy in their scripture and who believe the end time is near, and well, regular go-blow Muslims are being swept along for the ride, just like Germans were swept along for the ride into the Nazi camp for the World Wars.
As for Christians, Christians are as Christians do, not as they say. If it looks like a duck, but barks, it ain’t no duck.
BS:
Your assertion that most of the people on this blog cannot tell the difference between a jihadist and a mainstream Muslim is deceptive.
One, I don’t believe you.
Two, to make a statement that people here are incapable of sublteties is absurd unless you are a mindreader.