Which probably took a little air out of Dion’s balloon, no?
2nd ballot results:
Ignatieff – 1481
Rae – 1132
Dion — 974
Kennedy – 884
Dryden – 219
Total valid 4,690
Dryden is giving an impassioned “I want my big government back” speech to his delegates. Tears well… walks to Rae.
Kenndy moves to Dion, as expected. CTV’s Lisa LaFlamme will be thrilled.
3rd ballot results:
Dion – 1782
Ignatieff – 1660
Rae – 1375
Total – 4817
Rae starts to walk… somewhere.
Weathervane Ralph now wearing a green scarf.
Well, isn’t this typical? CTV offers an opportunity for “ordinary” viewers to email Mike Duffy duff@ctv.ca with their observations and what does he do? He reads the ones sent in from political hacks. “We want to hear what you think?” he closes with. No, he doesn’t.
A bit more media trivia – Jim Travers outed CBC’s Don Newman earlier this week. Apparently nobody noticed, because everyone already knew.
Program advisory: The Godfather just took the stage. Turn down the volume on your sets,
I’ve been handed a note from the producers. A source highly trusted in the corporation, but who shall remain unnamed, has indicated that CBC plans to close their convention coverage to the chorus of Jesus Christ Superstar…
Post Mortem – in the final analysis, here is what happened. Despite a determined campaign to present a positive face to the nation, the Liberal Party’s decision boiled down to a selection determined by negatives.
The campaign of Michael Ignatieff gained early support, but eventually stumbled because a significant number of delegates were determined to vote for “anybody but”.
The campaign of Bob Rae gained later momentum, but eventually stalled because a significant number of delegates were also determined to vote for “anybody but”.
In the end they settled on the candidate who had staked out the highly coveted political ground known as “least offensive”.
So, there we have it.
The new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition, and citizen of France…
Who’s Dion’s chaufeur these days?
oops, I confused Dion with Pettigrew: different pile!
Jason Cherniak, Warren Kinsella, and Andrew Coyne think they know and they all seem on the same page: Stéphane Dion.
I’m not a huge fan as he’s pretty milquetoast generally and not a defender of Israel specifically (unlike every other major Liberal candidate, he refused to issue a clear statement during the recent war with Lebanon), but then, it’s their leader, not mine.
They really have slim pickings: Failed socialist leader even the unions turned against, well-heeled foreign-living academic who can’t keep his foot from his mouth, young promising Gerard Kennedy, with nowhere near enough life experience, über-liberal Ken Dryden who’s astonished and offended (and offensive when describing how) Conservatives are not liberals, ethically challenged freedom-of-Internet-speach control freak Joe Volpé, and Martha Hall Findley, smart long-range strategist, but too young with no profile (until now!), and Mr. Milquetoast.
So Stéphane Dion it is, maybe.
[reposted from subsequent thread]
If Morton wins in Alberta, it might alert Canadians to what Harper might look like in a majority government.
Go Morton.
Sikhs to Iggy
Saturday, December 2nd, 2006
more Sikh supporters of Kennedy have moved over to Iggy, this is in addition to the other Indo-Canadians who have moved to Iggy earlier. We are working to hear on a deal on something big with the Tamil delegates, who will hopefully come over to Iggy, addiing another 75 delegates.
I have been hearing that some […]
John Turner speaking to the Liebs right now and he said “we have to rebuild the party from the bottom up, not the top down.”
So under John’s reasoning we save the Lieberal leadership as is and replace all the underlings and minions working for the leadership?
Interesting definition of renewal for the Liberals if I do say so myself.
More stupidity from Jean Chretien 😛
The Godfather comes back from china with a message from that other people’s party…
Did Chretien win?
I’m watching Jean Cretin. He looks like a clone of Frankenstein. He sounds like the vacuous idiot he is. What a yesterday’s man. What a yesterday’s party.
He got one of his most enthusiastic responses by calling PMSH “Steve”. Duh. But, the core of his meanderings have focused on PMSH. Good sign!
Go away, Jean.
“The Godfather just took the stage”
At first the fascination factor kept me watching, kind of like watching a train wreck. But after repeated bouts of throwing up in my mouth, I had to leave the room…
*reaches for the eye bleach*
And is it just me, or did John Turner appear to have one foot in the grave and the other on a bananna peel?
Listening to Creeton speak again reminds me how great it is to have Harper as PM and not this fool.
After Cretin’s verbal vomit, I feel ill. I need a shower.
Cerberus hung around his keyboard until every other dog was hung. The last dog standing won.
Iggy is number one dog.
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That’s it for me, folks
The voting is done. The die is cast.
I’m going up in a few minutes to be with the team and cheer on the awesome campaign of ideas that Ignatieff has led from the convention floor.
It truly is an amazing story, this brilliant scholar running for leadership, helping Liberals find their pride again, find their values and passion …-
barf…arf…rf…CAW
John “Girly” Manley proclaimed Crouton’s speech “electric” and said that had any of the 8 scumbags, er candidates, made a speech like that, we might be looking at a surprise winner.
And no one at the CBC thought to call *bs* on Manley.
“the godfather just took the stage”
There’s never an “insurgent” around when you really need one.
John “Beaker” Manley, the Muppet Liberal.
Watch for the hand up his back.
Kate,
Change it back to “turn down the volume on you sets”…it’s more appropriate when speaking of the Godfather
Petey can’t get off his favourite question: “who’s most Trudeau-like?”
What, you mean who’s most likely to dress up as a Nazi, jump on a motorbike, and terrorize Quebec Jews?
I’ve had a busy day…turned on the tube for 2 lousy mins in time to hear the Cretin ‘imply’ that Harper ‘stood outside a bathroom stall to speak with the Chinese leader…I wouldn’t do THAT”….CBC is impressed with THAT…
Obviously, Libs are threatened by a real statesman being the leader of our country…no policies just try to bash Harper. TV is off now…gravol please….
The CBC camera was panning the crowd .. and there sat Mohammed “all Jews are targets” Elmasry.
Quite a big tent those Liberals have – including terrorist sympathizers.
Surely I’m not the only one to realize that we now will hava a choice between two steve’s.
SD will be a very tough – the Toughest of the three finalists – to beat regardless of what the polls say.
The CP’s dropping the ball on an environment policy that took effect immediately rather than 5 years from now will really hurt.
The biggest questions I have for Dion are:
What is his position regarding federal spending in provincial juristictions?
Does he favour a Carbon-tax?
The CP has to come out with some very aggressive tax-cuts and changes in the spring (income-splitting, doubling the childcare subsidy, chanages to Capital gains and personal tax rates) or put off the election for as long as possible.
Listening to the candidates and ex-PMs speak was a laugh-a-minute. Totally clueless about the conditions that a successful country needs.
If Iggy wins the Lieberals self destruct, they cannot handle his views on Iraq. He has also shown that he cannot string together a fact based sentence, lots of airy-fairy crap typical of the so-called academy..
If Dion wins the Lieberals support in Quebec approaches zero, the greens improve their chances, and the dipper-libs from Ontario are left bereft.Lots of fertile ground for the Conservatives.
All-in-all a great week for Canada but especially the Conservatives.
Forget Christmas we should celebrate this day for years to come.
How do you keep 4800+ aholes in suspense?
I’m just wondering, are my tax dollars being used to pay for this coronation? And I don’t just mean whatever the CBC spends to broadcast …
I’ve just sent this to the CBC Ombudsman under the title. “One Query and a Few Complaints”. (As I watch, I could type all night, but have decided I’d rather not ruin my whole evening.)
“1) I’m just watching Newsworld coverage of the Liberal convention. (I can’t remember when I last watched CBC “news”.)
“Jean Chretien’s just spoken. [I type slowly.]
“One of your commentators–I’m writing because I’d like to know who it was (not Peter M.)–has just said that Chretien’s remarks were “self deprecating” and that he had made “clever little jabs at Stephen Harper”.
“I’m interested in who made these comments because they are less than accurate.
“2) Mansbridge is just responding earnestly to John Manley’s rah-rah comments about Chretien’s speech. Does this CBC man–excuse the pun–have no sense of irony? E.g., no ability to be neutral or even APPEAR to be?
“3) Belinda had to READ her vacuous comments. Does CBC have no shame? Surely a better female commentator could have been found. (How about, among many, Diane Ablonzy or Rona Ambrose? Leading to . . . )
“4) Where are the Conservative spokespeople? (Rex Murphy’s OK but not what’s required here for “fair and balanced coverage”.) My taxes are paying for this CBC-Liberal love-in.
“I guess you don’t think it matters that Canadians notice the CBC’s partisan antics. You’re wrong.
“Conclusion: One of your commentators has just said, “They’ve [I don’t know which camp] lost touch with what’s happening in the rest of the room.”
“Well, Mr. Carlin, the CBC’s lost touch with the rest–outside of the Montreal-Toronto corridor (though I live there)–of Canada. This is unacceptable. (So is the juvenile coverage of this juvenile convention.)
“I’d appreciate hearing from you.
“Thanks.”
No surprise, but the uber preening and fawning of both the convention itself and the CBC are nauseating.
Bless PMSH and all the Conservatives for their mature behaviour all the time, which includes staying out of our faces at every opportunity. I hope being the grown ups stands them in good stead when they face the “Baby: Watch Me! watch Me!” party in the next election.
Dion missed voting on the Liberal private members bill supporting Kyoto, go figure. Will he renounce his dual French/Canadian citizenship and become truly Canadian? The GG did just that.
More fun with online polls…
Whatever the outcome of the Liberal leadership race, do you think the Liberal party can defeat the current Harper government in a federal election?
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/ontario/index.html
h/t Joel at proudtobecanadian.ca
CBC Watcher,
Boag said that Harper is weak on foreign policy. Just like that, no attempt to attribute it to someone else, no weasely “some say.” Nope, he expressed his own [incorrect] opinion as fact.
Waiting for the final result, a CBC commentator has just said, “The politicians are in the ring. We’re not.”
Oh yeah?
Smarten up, CBC. (That’s definitely an oxymoron.) And, BTW, get out of the ring!
They’re still counting votes?? I was outside shoveling more of that global warming dust that’s all over my driveway. I thought this sad spectacle of a convention would be over by now.
Hyper crap on the tube waiting for the final result.
I’ve just thought, “Lucky Rae and Iggy!” They can leave this cesspool.
OK, now that it’s decided, back up the paddy wagons, man the doors, and cuff each and every one of those criminals.
Oh sweet Jebus, who is that CBC moron woman asking Dion the questions about Harper?
Petey M says that Dion said he’s going to offer a more generous government to Canada.
He made that up – Dion never said that.
CBCpravda “All Liberal , All the time”
latest headline
Chrétien to PM: ‘Can I call you Steve, like George W.?’
L’anthem Officiel Du Canada
Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé !
Contre nous de la tyrannie [Conservateur]
L’étendard sanglant est levé.
Entendez-vous dans nos campagnes
Mugir ces féroces soldats,
Qui viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils et nos compagnes. …
Vive La France.
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Chorus by Kyoto, the Husky dog:
OOOOwooo, OOOOwwwoooo…
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The tail again wags the liberal dog. Call me ill-mannered but this reeks of Quebec centric, Chretien connected politics.
Nice guy? No doubt.
Devouted to Canada. Yeah.
Understanding of or amenable to western aspirations. I think not.
But then look at the choices. A newly minted Liberal who happens to be a disreptutable ex-premier, who wants to take the party further to the left and a deep but not quick thinking academic who just wants to take the party. Imagine the audacity – it’s like Ignatieff was picked up by some corporate/academic head-hunting company who promised that if he took the new posting, he could probably lead the country.
Despite some paper losses on a couple of investment trusts, I’m still going to be working my ass off for my local conservative, this election.
With the GG and Dion being French, I’m reminded of Russell Crowe’s line in Master + Commander: Far Side of the World which would do well in a Conservative campaign ad:
Aubrey: Do you want to see a guillotine in Calgary?
Crew: No!
Aubrey: Do you want to call that raggedy arse Chirac your king?
Crew: No!
Aubrey: Do you want your children to sing the Marseillaise?
Crew: NO!
Vote Conservative and Stand For Canada!
Vote Harper!
Mississauga Matt, VERY sorry to say that, after being goaded by the disembodied CBC harpy, M Dion indeed did say that he would be “more generous” than Stephen Harper’s government. We’ll see. . .
What small regard I might have had for the new Liberal leader quite evaporated at that point.
so this is how Canada ends not with a Yank (Iggy) but with a simper( Dion)
So much for the Liberals re vitalizing the party and moving forward. For all the talk, they went back to a Chretian/Martin, Francophone, Adscam era Cabinet Minister. Harper must be salivating at the thought of taking on Dion in an election. Dion sided with Harpers Quebecois motion (no unity card to play against Harper). As environment Minister, Dion led the Liberal inaction on Kyoto (now he is the Kyoto champion), Liz May will give him grief on that file. The other great thing about the result was that Brison threw his support to Iggy. Now he is done! Iggy looked like he just wanted to go back to Harvard.
It almost seemed like the Liberals did what the PC’s did to Campbell in 93. Hanging him out as the fall guy until some real contenders come to the plate with a lot less baggage.
I noticed that Orchard was near Dion: freaks.
And why doesn’t the MSM mention that this guy is a citizen of France? They did state htat he was an “intellectual” that studied at the Sorbonne and understood “foreign affairs”.
O No … the liberals are united, they said so … must be true.
oh u poor buggers.
u re trying to paint dion as being french when u urselves have compromised canada by electing an american. dion, you might recall, is hated in quebec cos his plan b is one of the most powerful arguments against separatism.
or maybe thats y u hate him. u re so obsessed with ur money that u d rather have an independent alberta than a strong canada.
harper got in on the apathy of voters like me who protest voted against that inept paul martin. not anymore. we ve got a winner this time round. hes smart. he doesnt carry political baggage. and, most importantly, he is canadian, unlike steve, the American governor of Canada.
Stephane Dion is the opposition. This is Soooooo good! We win.
Thank god the liberal love in is over – although we will have to have a couple of weeks of fluffing and fawing over the new leader.
I just about rolled on the floor laughing when someone(Mr. Beer and Popcorn Reid??) said that as someone who believed in a united Canada, Dion was going to be popular in the west and Stephen Harper’s base was going to erode.
Riiiiggghhhttt – another French Canadian Liberal leader – just what the west has been waiting for
I’m relaxing–at least for now: Dion’s speech is no more than vacuous platitudes.
I’m almost sorry. I’m SO tired of the “way down deep they’re really shallow” mode of most Canadian politics—-before the CPC and PMSH.
Dion’s just said, “Bob Rae’s a great Liberal,” and “You have before you [on the podium] a dream team.” Gag.
And Good Lord, deliver us.
“Dion’s just said, “Bob Rae’s a great Liberal,” …”
It’s the truth.
canadion (cute!) just wrote, “harper got in on the apathy of voters like me who protest voted against that inept paul martin. not anymore. we ve got a winner this time round. hes smart. he doesnt carry political baggage. and, most importantly, he is canadian, unlike steve, the American governor of Canada.”
Is canadion ignorant or is this person just stupid?
Dion: Canadian? Well, yes, half of him is.
Harper: American? Get real, canadion.