Michael Harris’ American Witchhunt

Next to Christmas and corporate fraud, fear is the biggest business in America.
Take that 59-year-old lady whose antics launched two F-15 fighter jets to deal with her bottle of hand lotion on United Airlines Flight 923 — and not a moment too soon.
Before she was delivered to the FBI at Logan Airport, she also did stretching exercises on the jet and pulled down her pants! True, she may have been waging psychological war on behalf of al-Qaida, but she may also have been expressing just how badly she needed to use the facilities.
And how about that new squad the U.S. transportation agency is experimenting with at 12 domestic airports? They’re called “behavior detection officers.” They don’t go through your stuff or X-ray your privates on the way to the gate. Instead, they look you in the eye and decide if you need a trip to the proctology wing of airport security. By the way you look.
American authorities have a longstanding tradition of ferreting out evil by novel means when public hysteria is running high enough. Take Salem. After a couple of local girls accused “spectral” versions of real people of pinching them, the local residents decided that they had a witchcraft problem.
They were already a little nervous. The king had just cancelled the charter under which the Puritans owned their land and governed themselves and no one knew what was coming. The witch hunt began in 1692.
As things turned out, the town was full of witches, 185 to be exact. In fact, a lot of Salem’s residents quickly realized that neighbours who had been giving them trouble for years were actually witches. Just about everyone in town denounced a witch or two. The town’s prisons were soon full and there was a sudden shortage of firewood and hemp.
The backlog of witches just couldn’t be dealt with by the normal court system with its burdensome rules of evidence and process. So the governor of the colony set up a special court: The Court of Oyer and Terminer. The accused were often tortured into confessing. When a suspected witch would not own up, no problem. To be denounced as a witch by your alleged victims was proof enough. The special court was such a success that Salem’s young girls were taken from town to town in colonial New England where they built on their reputation for spotting witches and then using their “spectral” evidence to convict them. In the end, 350 people, mostly indigent women and black servants, were unmasked, hung, burned at the stake or imprisoned.
Later came Sen. Joseph Mc-Carthy. Just like the residents of Salem, his fellow citizens were pretty jittery in those days back in 1950. Not only had Julius and Ethel Rosenberg been convicted of selling atomic secrets to the Soviets, the communists had just taken over China. Communists turned out to have wormed their way into the heart of the U.S. government.
McCarthy’s special court, the Committee on Un-American Activities, ruined careers and stifled debate. At the height of his power, 25 states passed anti-communist legislation and compiled “black lists” of suspected communist sympathizers. Even President Truman’s attorney-general seemed to agree that there was an epidemic of reds: “There are today many Communists in America. They are everywhere — in factories, offices, butcher shops, on street corners, in private business — and each carries in himself the germs of death for society.”
According to McCarthy, who never backed up his deadly allegations, the State Department and even the U.S. Army were full of communists. Then the great denouncer from Wisconsin finally accused President Truman of being a communist agent, a “captive” of his masters in Moscow. Instead of checking McCarthy into a clinic, average Americans began denouncing each other. Even the Girl Scouts were denounced as a communist organization. Three hundred years may have passed, but it was a lot like Salem in post-war America.
Today, witches and communists have given way to the ubiquitous terrorist. The newspapers are full of their dire plots exposed by ever more powerful and less communicative security forces. The mere accusation of terrorism is treated like a statement of fact: “Mass murder plot foiled,” the headlines screamed after recent terrorist arrests in the U.K. Although no one knows if any of it is true, it certainly sounds scary. So is the fact that of the 701 people arrested in the U.K. since 9/11, there have been only 17 convictions.
The Courts of Oyer and Terminer were eventually closed by conscience-stricken Puritans. Joe McCarthy was denounced by his fellow senators in 1954 and died in alcoholic obscurity. This past June, the U.S Supreme Court ruled that President Bush’s special terror “trials” for Guantanamo detainees were “illegal.” Yesterday, a federal judge ruled that Washington’s warrantless wiretap program is unconstitutional.
The world will always have to watch its witches — and even more closely, its witch-hunters.

Gordon McCannel Aamoth, 32

Maria Rose Abad, 49
Edelmiro (Ed) Abad, 54,
Andrew Anthony Abate, 37
Vincent Abate, 40
Laurence Christopher Abel, 37
William F. Abrahamson, 58
Richard Anthony Aceto, 42
Erica Van Acker, 62
Heinrich B. Ackermann, 38
Paul Andrew Acquaviva, 29
Christian Adams, 37
Donald L. Adams, 28
Shannon Lewis Adams, 25
Stephen Adams, 51
Patrick Adams, 60
Ignatius Adanga, 62
Christy A. Addamo, 28
Terence E. Adderley, 22
Sophia B. Addo, 36
Lee Adler, 48
Daniel Thomas Afflitto, 32
Emmanuel Afuakwah, 37
Alok Agarwal, 36
Mukul Agarwala, 37
Joseph Agnello, 35
David Scott Agnes, 46
Joao A. Aguiar Jr., 30
Lt. Brian G. Ahearn, 43
Jeremiah J. Ahern, 74
Joanne Ahladiotis, 27
Shabbir Ahmed, 47
Terrance Andre Aiken, 30
Godwin Ajala, 33
Gertrude M. Alagero, 37
Andrew Alameno, 37
Margaret Ann (Peggy) Jezycki Alario, 41
Gary Albero, 39
Jon L. Albert, 46
Peter Craig Alderman, 25
Jacquelyn Delaine Aldridge, 46
Grace Alegre-Cua, 40
David D. Alger, 57
Ernest Alikakos, 43
Edward L. Allegretto, 51
Eric Allen, 44
Joseph Ryan Allen, 39
Richard Lanard Allen, 30
Richard Dennis Allen, 31
Christopher Edward Allingham, 36
Anna Williams Allison, 48
Janet M. Alonso, 41
Anthony Alvarado, 31
Antonio Javier Alvarez, 23
Telmo Alvear, 25
Cesar A. Alviar, 60
Tariq Amanullah, 40
Angelo Amaranto, 60
James Amato, 43
Joseph Amatuccio, 41
Paul Ambrose, 32
Christopher Charles Amoroso, 29
Spc. Craig Amundson, 28
Kazuhiro Anai, 42
Calixto Anaya, 35
Jorge Octavio Santos Anaya, 25
Joseph Peter Anchundia, 26
Kermit Charles Anderson, 57
Yvette Anderson, 53
John Andreacchio, 52
Michael Rourke Andrews, 34
Jean A. Andrucki, 42
Siew-Nya Ang, 37
Joseph Angelini, 38
Joseph Angelini, 63
David Angell, 54
Lynn Angell, 45
Laura Angilletta, 23
Doreen J. Angrisani, 44
Lorraine D. Antigua, 32
Seima Aoyama, 48
Peter Paul Apollo, 26
Faustino Apostol, 55
Frank Thomas Aquilino, 26
Patrick Michael Aranyos, 26
David Gregory Arce, 36
Michael G. Arczynski, 45
Louis Arena, 32
Barbara Arestegui, 38
Adam Arias, 37
Michael J. Armstrong, 34
Jack Charles Aron, 52
Joshua Aron, 29
Richard Avery Aronow, 48
Myra Aronson, 52
Japhet J. Aryee, 49
Carl Asaro, 39
Michael A. Asciak, 47
Michael Edward Asher, 53
Janice Ashley, 25
Thomas J. Ashton, 21
Manuel O. Asitimbay, 36
Lt. Gregg Arthur Atlas, 45
Gerald Atwood, 38
James Audiffred, 38
Kenneth W. Van Auken, 47
Louis F. Aversano, Jr, 58
Ezra Aviles, 41
Alona Avraham, 30
Ayodeji Awe, 42
Samuel (Sandy) Ayala, 36
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87 Replies to “Michael Harris’ American Witchhunt”

  1. Kelly if you’re referring to the last paragraph, you may want to look a little closer at the source.

  2. the moment maccarthy labelled Harry S Truman as communist the whole flood of desperation, farce and absurdity was only a matter of time.
    and then came the confusion about the cleaning lady’s political leanings…..
    who in their ‘right’ (pun intended) mind can bring themselves to defend the likes of that slimy poop regardless of anything he did in the ass end of a bomber or the presence of such and such number of communists?
    if the friggin american system is so weak it crumbles in the face of a CLEANING LADY’S suspect ‘leftistism’, and if there are THAT MANY ‘communists’ infiltrated already, what does THAT tell you about the illegitimacy of the maccarthy witch hunt?

  3. I see the Communists are still a little resentful that their ideology was so thoroughly rejected in the US. Some people really know how to hold a grudge.

  4. Mr. Harris: Wait a minute while I go get the World’s Smallest Violin . . .
    Meg Q, cranky American living in Edmonton

  5. Richard…were you interested in the names or numbers of Iragi’s killed before March 2003? by Iraqui’s?..the info is available…
    Kate…thanks for the gentle tribute(memorial) in the form of your list.I realize there isn’t space to record other names of victims of terrorism.

  6. “They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    –Benjamin Franklin
    Never truer than today.
    Some witches need constant hunting …..like apathy towards unwarranted surviellence, excessive administrative demands, loss of personal privacy and legal rights (like probable cause and due process).
    A better question to those who can justify this excessive overreaction from so-called security forces is where, or when, does it end? How MUCH martial law are you prepared to live with and which is the greater evil?
    For me personally, not much….I reject all the infringements on my rights and civil liberty…not because I’m stubborn or “hate government” but because I know once taken you can never get them back (without a fight). So for now I DO have a choice as the police state seems to only be in the transport industry…I can still vote with my dollars and I will not patronize public transportation….once border crossings require US and Canadian citizens to file bio ID and get a passport (I’m already dual citizen)…US border towns will no longer see my patronage.
    Regardless of gas prices I’d rather drive these days than subject myself to the degrading servility of police state paranoia at airports….obviously there are a lot of people with the low self respect and degenerated civil dignity to allow the police state to paw them over, rifle through their personal possessions, scan them, scrutinize them, take their personal bio ID on file and otherwise process them like so many pitiful cattle in the name of some elusive securty….the reality is you stand a better chance of being hit twice in your life by lightning than involved in a terrorist disaster.
    Now who has who scared?

  7. Peace is just around the corner!
    The Beeb reports that 50 French troops have arrived in the Lebanese port of Naqoura.
    All is well.

  8. statistical probabilities:
    heart disease kills the highest number of people followed by cancer.
    or is it the other way around?
    traffic accidents kill 10s of thousands in n america
    where is the ‘deaths by terrorist acts’ figure on the list of causes? hmmm????
    and why all the hysteria and attention and billions on law enforcement salaries and equipment and WOT???? where the bejeezuz are the priorities here???
    questions questions questions….
    the answer of course is its an age old proven trick to garner support from the public by creating a crisis and then stepping in to solve the crisis you created.
    the americans have meddled in the affairs of foreign nations for a century. you know the well cited list of occurrences. and now finally the cows have come home to roost.
    yo, uncle sam: the rest of the world doesnt have to fit your model sirrah, and stop doing things like supporting the somoaza dictatorship in nicaragua in the interests of the plantation owners. get it?
    jimmy carter gave pahlavi billions in arms and technical support because he was an ‘ally’. pahlavi and his savak TERRORIZED (ie state terrorism) iranians for decades until finally he did some really whacko stuff and alienated too much support. you couldnt get a dog licence without paying a bribe to a pahlavi family member.
    and now look at iran. cause and effect sirrah!!! cause and effect !!!

  9. “the americans have meddled in the affairs of foreign nations for a century. you know the well cited list of occurrences. and now finally the cows have come home to roost.”
    Robert, I don’t have time to debunk all your idiotic tosh. I will just ask you this: whose cows are coming home to roost in Casablanca, Madrid, London, Kuta, Karachi, Nairobi, Dar es Saalam, Riyadh, Taba, Luxor, Bombay, Moscow, Beslan, Amman, Istanbul and elsewhere?
    It seems there are a lot of cows from many countries with many different religions, many with no real connection to American cows. So, your bizarre as hell “roosting American cows” theory really doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. BTW, roosting cows? Are you retarded?

  10. McCarthy was, more or less, probably a charlatan. But it is undeniable that he was right regarding the level of communist infiltration into the American government.

  11. mr penn: these are the cows Im talking about!!! the yanks in their obsession to meddle meddle meddle in things they dont understand have successfully pissed of a huge sector of the world’s population.
    can you cite just ONE case where a top level white house type EVER publicly went to a foreign country and ADMITTED ‘gee, we screwed up, sorry, what can we do to rectify this before it gets out of hand’.
    cite me ONE instance in the last 80 years where americans have EVER admitted fu*ing up. they cant do it. they are not capable. they are grotesquely arrogant and a tad nuts to the point they believe their own lies now.
    so the islamist terrorism in the cities you mention ARE the long term consequences of american involvement in those parts of the world where these terrorist originate. I saw the video of TALIBAN welcomed to the USA by the bushists BEFORE 911. the americans GAVE the taliban all those stinger missiles during the russian invasion of afghanistan and it worked. all too well. they learned how good they worked and when the russians scooted they simply counted the remaining stock and turned it agaisnt the yanks when they tried to fill the power vacuum.
    BTW ‘roosting cows’. you are too retarded to spot a mixed metaphor when you see it. it was a JOKE sirrah, a play on words drawing on parts of 2 common sayings oh retarded one!!!

  12. I used to be a regular listener of Harris’s show on CFRA, but now when I tune in, if he’s on one of his SSM, Middle East or George Bush rants, I change the station. I don’t know what he’s going to do for two hours when Bush is no longer President. Expand his Sunday cooking show?
    And you should have heard him on the subject of Caledonia! I couldn’t believe my ears when he had as a guest a “Chief Toulouse” who claimed that all natives lived in universal peace and brotherhood until Whitey showed up to spoil the love-in. Harris never offered a dissenting view. Guess he never studied the Jesuit Martyrs and Ste. Marie among the Hurons in school.

  13. RobertJ: “The cows are coming home to roost.”
    Early candidate for “Worst mixed metaphor of the year”.

  14. Am I the only one who finds it noteworthy that much of Harris’s screed is devoted to comparing the actions of the government of the United States of America to witchcraft trials that occurred eighty-four years before the USA declared its independence (and more than eighty-four years before it won its independence)? He makes reference to the king’s cancellation of the Puritans’ charter, but seems unable to connect this with the fact that these were British subjects, not American citizens, hunting witches.

  15. I find it rather scary that only WL Mackenzie Redux has also seen the dangers posed by statist tyranny expanding its reach under the guise of “fighting terrorism”. I too reject infringements on my civil liberties and am very suspicious of the states motives in whipping up mass hysteria. I will not give up essential liberty for the illusion of safety. The “war on terror” is the most inane term I have ever heard; terror is a tactic and one fights an enemy, not a tactic. Vin Suprynowicz says it much better than I can in his piece: “What next, a war on the drag bunt?” http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Nov-20-Sun-2005/opinion/4199419.html
    Regardless of Michael Harris’s views, he has made a very valid point regarding witch hunts. Mass hysteria is very dangerous and one sees demonstrations of it constantly when one person in a stressfull crowded office will smell something strange and faint or get sick and this is followed by an epidemic of illness which is entirely psychosomatic. Invariably investigations into the causes of this mysterious noxious substance turn up nothing and people refuse to accept that they were part of a shared delusional state.
    It is impossible to prevent a determined terrorist from smuggling a bomb onto an airliner especially when the first line of defence is low IQ minimum wage baggage screeners. A plane _will_ be blown up as it is so much easier to carry a bomb onto a plane if one isn’t planning on surviving. The reason I suspect this hasn’t happened is that people with sufficiently high IQ’s to be able to easily circumvent the laughable security have better things to do than blowing themselves up to prove an obscure religious point. Eventually I suspect that flying will involve stripping naked, undergoing a cavity search, going through an CT scanner and then being anesthetized paralyzed and artificially ventilated before being placed on a plane in a self-contained life support module and reawakened at ones destination. On the bright side, this will save the airline millions in stewardess salaries and many more people could be crammed into an aircraft as they will be in no shape to complain about overcrowding.
    We’re fighting islamofascists and they should be the targets, not the 99.999% of the population who would like nothing better than to see them all swinging from lamposts so life could get back to normal. That the government can’t see this implies that either (a) politicians are far stupider than anyone could have imagined, or (b) they have a hidden totalitarian agenda and are exploiting the islamofascist threat for all it is worth.

  16. Robert, I’m sure you would be thrilled if the Soviet Union had succeeded in their efforts to obtain a warm water sea port by aggressive war against the SOVEREIGN STATE and native population of Afghanistan. (But American’t shouldn’t touch Iraq ruled by the leftist humanitarian hero Hussein). Yippeeeeee Communists!!! Boo Americans!! I get it.
    “the americans GAVE the taliban all those stinger missiles during the russian invasion of afghanistan and it worked.”
    IF ONLY the US would have let the Soviets run through Afghanistan, the world would be a lovely Utopia. Communism is man’s best friend. All that bullshit about 90 MILLION DEAD is just propaganda. The real figure is surely closer to, let’s say, 60 MILLION.
    DAMN THOSE AMERICANS FOR LEAVING A FEW STINGER MISSLES LYING AROUND A COUNTRY THAT THEY BLED AND DIED TO FREE from that most precious of all gifts to humanity, Communism. Because of that, TADA: TERRORISM.
    “cite me ONE instance in the last 80 years where americans have EVER admitted fu*ing up. they cant do it. they are not capable. they are grotesquely arrogant and a tad nuts to the point they believe their own lies now.”
    I’ll admist to fu*ing up right here and now, on behalf of my nation. Americans have fu*ed up by spending our blood and treasure protecting Freedom and Democracy for idiots like you and many in Europe to the point where you have no idea what those words mean or the price to be paid for them. Mixed metaphors are bad form, by the way, fool.
    loki, “statis tyranny”? WHERE? Please do educate the free people with our stupid Democratic governments how to REALLY identify the “0.001%” that wants to kill your infidel ass by bombing you into a thousands shreds. I promise to share your brilliant strategy with Jordan, Saudi, Spain, India, Kenya, Indonesia, Egypt, Sudan, Britain, Morracco, Turkey and all other governments with an interest in implementing your solution.

  17. loki, back to your argument of “stasis tyranny”, I must point out there is NOTHING either “stasis” or “tyrannical” about American Democracy. My nation limits Presidential power to 4 years per term, for two terms. I go to the ballot box more often than YOU can be bothered by it. The US is, right now, 6 years post Bill Clinton and potentially 2 years pre Hillary Clinton. I must ask you what exactly do you mean?

  18. Tom, as examples of very dangerous US statist organizations, and only the first ones that come to mind, are the BATF, DEA and more recently FEMA (disarming people in New Orleans in violation of the 2nd Amendment). The US war on (some) drugs has put almost 1,000,000 people in jail despite the majorities of populations of a number of western states voting to _not_ enforce laws against cannabis posession. The people who have lost everything and are languishing in jail now simply as a result of enjoying a toke from time to time would disagree with you that there was nothing “statis” (sic) or “tyrannical” about American democracy.
    On the plus side, the US has a simple and very straightforward constitution that can be used to fight out of control government agencies. The first amendment was successfully used against the FDA when it attempted to legislate what information could be put on dietary supplements (here in Canada one wouldn’t have a hope against a government agency as the Canadian constitution is essentially worthless as every right can be violated by the government if it wants to). The current US administration has at least been treating the 2nd Amendment as an individual right to keep and bear arms. Hopefully pro-2nd Amendment legislators will prevail at the midterm elections and if I lived in the US I’d be taking this opportunity to buy up all the guns and ammo I could get my hands on as I suspect things are going to get much worse in the future. Fortunately, there are strong counterbalancing organizations such as the NRA in the US that are a check on expansion of statist powers.
    I can’t imagine people being stupid enough to vote for Hillary Clinton, but then I’ve learned one should never overestimate the intelligence of sheeple. Bush seems to be determined to subvert the US constitution where it suits him and fortunately there are judges that are standing up to his administration.

  19. loki, yes we have a very healthy Democracy. How thoughtful of you to notice. What are you bitching about again?
    Oh yeah, “BATF, DEA and more recently FEMA (disarming people in New Orleans in violation of the 2nd Amendment).”
    Pure bullshit, but I guess accuracy is not a priority when the object is to castigate the US. It was the CITY OF NEW ORLEANS, not any federal agency, that was seizing guns.
    “The people who have lost everything and are languishing in jail now simply as a result of enjoying a toke from time to time would disagree with you that there was nothing “statis” (sic) or “tyrannical” about American democracyour drug laws.”
    People looking for excuses generally find something they disagree with. Not that US drug laws are really any of your business, but simple possession is a misdemeanor in most areas. Now, drug dealing will get you put away for awhile. My advice: if you don’t want to go to jail, DON’T DEAL DRUGS.
    If you have to manufacture lies to prove your mythical “US tyranny” argument, maybe you should rethink your position.

  20. Thanks, Tom. I’m grateful every day for the great US of A–not a perfect country, as there’s no such thing, but, all taken into account, including its unparallelled generosity to others and other countries, the best country civilization’s produced so far. (The lefty pack may howl all it wants. That won’t change the truth.) And, if the USA weren’t our neighbour, we’d not be selling our goods, we’d be poor, and we wouldn’t have any military to speak of to act as a deterrent to those that hate the West. Talk about biting the hand that feeds–and protects!
    I’m absolutely fed up with the dog in the manger lefties whose main purpose seems to be to kvetch and complain–ALL THE TIME. Take off the rose coloured glasses and stop being such ungrateful ignoramuses.
    Why not move to the ME and help out yourselves? Whoops! That would mean sacrifice and actually putting out–two things most of you seem to abhor. You’re actually parasites, “an organism living in or on another and benefiting at the expense of the other”, Canadain Oxford Dictionary. I find your magical thinking and lack respect and gratitude truly disgusting. So would my fater and grandfathers who risked their lives in WWs I and II to provide the “true North, strong and free”, in which, for the time being, you are living and, from which, you derive so many privileges.

  21. RobertJ: “The cows are coming home to roost.”
    Early candidate for “Worst mixed metaphor of the year”.
    on that I would agree. LOL !!!
    tom tom tom: marijuana has existed for 100,000 years. grug the cave man toked a couple at the end of the week to celebrate another 7 days of survival.
    it was used more than alcohol since wine making requires containers, preparation, time and without bottling processes had to be consumed quickly.
    pot was easy to carry, recognizable and gave a good buzz in the interests of early religious mystical connection experiences. probably where the whole religion things started!!!
    but the americuns link pot to the man made opiates like heroin, lumping them all together for some reason.
    clinton admitted toking, why isnt he in jail?
    mick jagger was repeatedly busted for possession, why isnt he banned from entry?
    kimmie kim campbell avoided being caught in a lie in her election campaign by admitting toking in college, why isnt she banned from entry?
    because the the american practice of 2 tiered justice and fawning over celebrity.
    lock up a million schmucks but let the hi profile celebs do whatever they want.
    pot has the ability to counteract loss of appetite in chemo patients (munchies time!!). it is a drug, a naturally occurring substance that has a medicinal effect. have you *any* idea how many drugs active ingredients originate in the wild? why why why the stigma about pot?
    and as far as heroin is concerned, why can it not be prescribed to terminal cancer patients seeing as it is a very powerful pain killer?
    because of the artificially created stigma and nothing else. MILLIONS of pharmeceuticals, some natural ingredients, some entire from the lab, but americkhuns gotta select and obsess about a handful.
    *in NUTS.

  22. “If you have to manufacture lies to prove your mythical “US tyranny” argument, maybe you should rethink your position. ”
    tom tom tom.
    its tyranny by proxy.
    they prop up the gangsters in power with mil. aid, economic aid and even stuff like free access to classified satellite pics so they can spy on their own people.
    this phenomenon really took off with the eisenhower regime when the cold war started seriously revving up. white house types took the quick and dirty route to balance of power instead of taking a single afternoon from their busy schedule to ask the question: ‘what can we do to genuinely defuse discontent in the 3rd world regarding access to those nations resources by ALL the people’. no, it was always ‘well how much of this years budget will go into arming and training the tinpot’s army so he can use it to quash protests for political and economic reform’. (nicaraugua, iran, chile, etc)
    stuff like vietnam, the wide overt involvement of american forces was the exception. well that too is changing apparently with george dubya the ‘war president’.
    p.s. the tonkin incident was STAGED and CHOREOGRAPHED.
    need any more history lessons today?

  23. Robertj; Easy. Clinton apologized to the African nations for America’s part in slavery. Truman spoke in Mexico and left a wreath at the monumument to the “Boy Heroes” at Chapultepec of the Mexican-American War.
    Has Canada ever apologized to the descendents of Thomas Scott or Louis Riel?

  24. mr patterson: tq for that input.
    note BOTH the past presidents you mention were DEMOCRATS.
    republicanist rightists are never worng you se…….

  25. aaaaand this just in: feel free to track down the editorialist because of course, you rightists will sling mud and claim ‘troll’ instead of responding to and countering the arguements and points with logic and historical fact.
    anyway, here it is “bush the ‘fiasco’ president”:
    fiasco 1
    5 years after bush ordered afghanistan invaded and proclaimed ‘total victory’ US and allied including Canadaian forces are fighting a losing war…. afghan heroin exports are up NINETY PERCENT…..
    fiasco 2
    ‘mission accomplished’ [see what I mean about the bushist believing their own lies] 300,000,000,000 dollars, body bags, verge of civil war etc etc
    fiasco 3
    white house and cia spent millions bribing somalia warlords [? the same warlords that did the black hawk down t’ing ???] to fight islamist reformers trying to bring order to their nation. …the islamists WHIPPED the warlords….
    fiasco 4
    egging on Israel to invade lebanon etc. well, it was supposed to be a cake walk according to white house expectations, but gee, has that bunch ever been right? er, wrong? er right? oooo my head is spinning, Im so confused what the white house is up to. meddle meddle meddle. intrigue intrigue !!!
    if ya wanna sling mud could yo do it at the south west corner of my yard? I got a low spot there thank you !!

  26. I thought your post asked for any American official who had apologized for past mistakes. I didn’t realize that it had to be only Republicans. Reagan took responsibility and apologized for Iran-Contra and the blast at the Marine barracks in Beirut. Clinton also apologized for lying in a sworn deposition and to the American people, earning the sobriquet of Apologizer-In-Chief. Truman it could be argued was merely apologizing for what the Democrat Polk did to Mexico. And yet he never apologized for dropping two atomic bombs on Japan and sending military aid to Greece and aid and troops to South Korea when they were invaded by misunderstood agrarian syndicalists.
    Plus I’m still interested in your answer to the fate of Scott and Riel? I think what you’re upset about is that American presidents have figuratively had their triumphal processions but like the victorious Roman consuls have not been forced to grovel abjectly and then be strangled for imperfect victories.

  27. Tom, check your facts before you characterize my comments as “Pure bullshit”. First of all the BATF; there’s minor incidents such as Waco and Ruby Ridge, the jpfo has amassed far more abuses of the BATF and is taking them to court (see http://jpfo.org/bootbatfe.htm). As far as the DEA goes, they’ve stormed doctors offices at gunpoint in order to arrest doctors that they feel have been prescribing too much oxycontin. Never mind what the local medical association says, the DEA makes the decisions and the will seize the doctors assets as they’ve been engaged in “drug trafficking”. Since the DEA seems to think that Canadian drug laws are their business, Canadians have every right to criticize US drug laws.
    With regard to FEMA, they had a policy in place that prohibited any firearms from being brought into trailer parks they established. The NRA and Second Amendment foundation fought this in court and FEMA was forced to back down. You’re right that it was primarily the city of New Orleans which was responsible for most of the firearms seizures after Katrina. The city could probably use the excuse of diminished mental capacity as the degree of incompetence shown by the New Orleans administration is astounding and on the level one would expect in third world countries.
    Fine, posession of small amounts of cannabis may be a misdemeanor in some states (and it looks like Alaska would be the best place to be busted), but in some states any cultivation is considered to be the same as trafficking. There also seem to be some draconian “drug paraphenalia” laws on the books of some states. Incidentally, in Texas owners of any chemical glassware are supposed to register it with the state; part of a misguided approach to meth labs. A good article on the effects of such laws on amateur chemists is given at:
    http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/issues-opinions/5298-chilling-effects-amateur-research-chemistry-wired-article-reprint.html
    I have no need to manufacture any lies, unless, of course, there is a vast islamofascist conspiracy to flood the internet with false news on matters concerning the US;-)

  28. Ok, Robert J, I’ll bite.
    Bush apologized for US slavery on his grand tour of Africa.
    Bush apologized for the concessions to the Soviet Union at Yalta, Tehran, and Potsdam.
    Bush apologized for having used the words “bring it on” with reference to Iraq.
    Bush endorsed the ridiculous apology of Ken Mehlman for the so-called Southern Strategy, although Mehlman didn’t actually use that term.
    Not just an American; not just a Republican; but Adolph Bushbaby himself.
    As for stingers, they were given to various Afghan mujihadeen, but not the Taliban, who were the johnny-come-lately winners in the ensuing civil war. The missiles have a limited shelf-life, and I have yet to hear of any Taliban successes with them.
    In the interest of comity, I will admit to one point of agreement: when you say “my head is spinning, Im so confused what the white house is up to.”

  29. “And yet he never apologized for dropping two atomic bombs on Japan and sending military aid to Greece and aid and troops to South Korea when they were invaded by misunderstood agrarian syndicalists.”
    well mr patterson, why would Harry apologize for any of that stuff?
    youre just being argumentative now.
    also who is thomas scott?
    furthermore, having owed up to these transgressions, where are the changes in foreign policy or is the ‘apology’ akin the the catholic ‘confession’ in which you get the blackboard wiped clean so theres room for a whole bunch more errors of commission???

  30. No, the comment about atomic bombs was rhetorical not argumentative. If time can spend looking up all those links just type in Thomas Scott as well. If the US has indeed apologized for slavery and invading Mexico then Im glad to report that we have done neither to the Africans or Mexicans since the apology.
    Obviously we disagree but I find myself being underwhelmed that during ongoing hostilities combatants not covered by the Geneva Convention are still incarcerated. Much like the thousands of Italian prisoners that the Allies kept in camps long after Italy had surrendered during WWII.

  31. CCFers and the NDP were red circled by the powers that be in the 60’s and 70’s and earlier. Were they Terrorists? Not very likely. Were they dangerous? Only to crooked politicians……….

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