Ground War

Proving to be the best online source for updates on the Israeli – Hezbollah war, Pajamas Media is providing continuing updates using both mainstream and blog reports. Don’t forget the mideast blog aggregator at Truth Laid Bear, either.
Two other links well worth your time – yesterday’s post by Cliff May;

What we are witnessing in southern Lebanon is concurrent with actions designed to prep a battlefield for the insertion of ground forces. So far, Israel has relied on its dominance in sea and air forces to isolate Hezbollah, rather than focusing their brunt of their superior forces on actual enemy positions. By blockading the coast, neutralizing Beruit’s airport, and damaging roads and bridges into and out of Lebanon, the IDF has cut off Hezbollah’s supply routes by land, sea, and air, and blocked all lines of escape.
These isolation actions are eerily similar to Coalition movements prior to Operation Hail Mary during the first Gulf War, where allied aircraft severed supply lines to foward deployed Iraqi Army units.
The end result is a battlespace that traps the now ill-equipped enemy force, the ideal environment for Israel to crush Hezbollah forces.

(More at the link). That appears to be the case as Israeli ground forces are now reported to have entered south Lebanon.
And these observations at Belmont Club;

The second thing to remember is that we are now seeing in Lebanon and in the Global War on Terror in general, a replay of the old argument between precision strikes and morale bombing. Israel the advocate of the precision strike, Hezbollah the advocate of morale bombing; recalling that for most of history it is the morale bombers who have won. It’s worth pondering how technology changes the rules of war.
[…]
The irony is that the US invasion of Afghanistan to topple the governing Taliban is not an international conflict, while efforts by Israel — not to topple the Lebanese government — but to destroy a subnational group called Hezbollah is an international conflict suggests that our notions of warfare are seriously out of date. Very few countries in the world today possess sophisticated antiship missiles, military drones or ballistic rockets. Certainly Kofi Annan’s Ghana does not. Yet nonstate Hezbollah does. And in a while, though it is pooh-poohed, nonstate entities like al-Qaeda, LET, or the Hezbollah itself could acquire chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.
The other thing to note is that while Israel has been striking purely military targets in the sense that it is not aiming at civilians (though that has not spared it from international opprobrium), Hezbollah has been firing exclusively at civilians. Indeed, they can do nothing else because their weapons are presently so crude that they can only hit the vast sprawls of which modern urban life is made.

And right on cue, some of our friends on the “progressive” left who sneer at the efforts of Canadian troops in Afghanistan* as fighting “George Bush’s war”, have conveniently discovered patriotic outrage to direct at Israel with news that seven Lebanese Canadians have died in the region.

Terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah, lacking sophisticated weapons, were now forgiven, even romanticized by the press for firing on civilian targets. ‘What other weapon do poor men have?’, they rhetorically asked, as if organizations funded by petro-dollars were somehow indigent, and men, having nothing to eat somehow found the spare change to buy billions in antiship missiles, drones, explosives and rockets. Nongovernment entitites with powers exceeding nations now attack women and children and we sing them sweetly on.

Read the rest.
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Meanwhile; the moral relativist sect of the Canadian blogosphere seem oblivious to the fact that a Canadian died during the initial Hezbollah attack on Israel;

A 20-year-old Canadian serving in the Israeli army who died last Wednesday when his tank blew up in southern Lebanon was buried Sunday in the town of Modin.
Staff Sgt. Yaniv Bar-on, who lived in Israel but spent his summers in Montreal as a youth, was killed when the tank he was driving hit an explosive device as he chased Hezbollah fighters who had just kidnapped two Israeli soldiers.

And read this biting commentary on the so-called “disproportionate response” of Israel. Of course it seems disproportionate – when you’ve long been cheerleading for those who would, if they could, drive them into the sea.
(note- something odd seems to be going on in the comments function to this post. Don’t know why, but I”m looking into it.)

92 Replies to “Ground War”

  1. Wow. The Israel-can-do-no-wrong set are whipping themselves into a lather, I see.
    No problem. So am I. The cold-blooded murder of children, for example, and the excuses from some in the Comments section, have me feeling a little ill. (I take special note of “prepping the battlefield” as the vilest euphemism yet for child-killing.
    But go on pretending to talk geopolitics, by all means. If this sort of thing weren’t happening, it would be fun to watch.

  2. Moh/Allah have abandoned the Lebanese.
    Prime Minister Harper is their next, best, great, white hope.
    They are demanding a “guarantee safety”. The chutzpah.
    …-
    Family calls on Ottawa to guarantee safety
    MONTREAL (CP) – Friends and relatives of Canadians killed in an Israeli air strike in Lebanon want Prime Minister Stephen Harper to do more to guarantee the safety of Canadians in the Middle East. via cnews

  3. An article on the front page of the WSJ today related that Israel has the daunting task of seeking and destroying a suspected 13,000 missiles stashed in and among civilian residences in southern Lebanon. Bless Israel, it has some very tough choices in the days ahead, and, sadly, a high casualty ground war in their future. It has no choice but to drain that swamp once and for all. When their boots hit the ground, the MSM weasels and their lefty patrons, will go ballistic, failing to equate and acknowledge that terrorist thugs always hide behind skirts, making civilian casualties impossible to minimize.

  4. Hans R., I respect your family’s experience and your horror of unrestricted, primeval violence. But I suggest that your response isn’t altogether fair, as I believe you’ve overlooked my point.
    You said, “If you want to stop the flow of venom a simple shovel or long bladed device will remove the head.” I AGREE!
    However, as the Israelis are attempting just such an action–totally justified in their position of fighting off the two-headed serpent of Hamas and Hezbollah–many cry foul and claim that their decisive actions are against the terms of the Geneva Convention, which only seems to apply to Israel, not its enemies.
    On the other hand, despite the Geneva Convention, from which they seem to be exempt, the enemy’s allowed to “remove the head” (even of innocent civilians)–LITERALLY–with apparent international impunity.
    Just let Israel or the West try the very effective and necessary action of decisively removing a few figurative heads and they’ll be denounced in two seconds. (Reference: the dodgy issue of the dead Canadians in Lebanon.)
    This is WAR. As you well know, it’s hell and bad things happen. It’s altogether unfair and unjust to only hold one side–and the most civilized one at that–to account for unavoidable, distatseful consequences. (In fact, the deliberate atrocities of the OTHER side are exponentially WORSE than the collateral damage of the Israelis. Let’s have the supporters of the Geneva Convention take that into account.)
    That’s all I’m positing: Either hold both sides to equal account or call off the attack dogs.

  5. Hmm – 40k Canadian citizens in Lebanon…the numbers strongly suggest that the majority are not dual citizens of Canada and Lebanon. Who else would voluntarily travel there to “take the air”? Must be Danes, New Zealanders and Argentineans…NOT!

  6. Hisballah/Hamas for all intents and purposes are part and partner with Al Qaeda and assoc. cells whose objective is to eradicate the Jewish state from region. Embedding their units in civilian communities while they launch rockets into northern Israel speaks to their utter cowardice and the G-8 has unequivocally stated that these terrorist cells initiated the aggression.
    It’s clear international support is gaining momentum from the international community which is also very aware of fact that Israel takes all care humanly possible to keep civilian casualties to minimum. Reports cited their aircraft released pamphlets to citizens before the blitz in order to warn them to extricate themselves from Hisballah factions.
    If the Israeli assault needs to militarily confront Syria/Iran, what happens to the reported hundreds of thousands of Lebanese and international tourists which were admitted by Syria as ‘guests’ two days ago? Syria apparently admitted these high numbers for ‘safe sanctuary’, which would mean they have willing hostages with which to bargain. I haven’t seen any further reports as to the disposition of these thousands of individuals apparently enjoying safe santuary in Syria.
    Also the failure of the Arab League to come to a concensus on Israel’s ‘right to exist’ doesn’t help to diffuse the escalation in the region. It seems direct talks between the G-8 and Arab League should be pursued in international forum.
    G-8’s concensus statement a weak response at best on behalf of Israel’s right to self defence. The choice is stark now — stand up for Israel or for big oil. Which will it be and which SHOULD IT BE?
    Thanks for the forum and congrats on the 3 million hit mark.

  7. I said, “That’s all I’m positing: Either hold both sides to equal account or call off the attack dogs.”
    What do you think Dr. Dawg? (Usually you don’t.)
    I suggest you crawl back under your rock.

  8. Hezbollah, proxy of Iran and Syria, targets Israeli civilians in an unprovoked series of missile attacks.
    When Israel responds by going after Hezbollah, who hide like cowards among Lebanese civilians, Dawg calls this “the cold-blooded murder of children” by Israel.
    What’s wrong with this picture?
    Hint for anyone who’s read Dawg’s posts on Israel: it’s a rhetorical question.

  9. Dawg: Maybe you could post some pictures of Palestinian child suicide bombers next time – on second thought I guess that would be rather tough wouldn’t it as there is not much left of them.

  10. No one’s supporting Palestinian pizza-parlour bombers. But there are plenty cheering on Israel. Maybe it’s time you folks get a look at what you’re cheering about.
    Incidentally, the kids were in a bus leaving the area after being ordered to do so by Israeli forces. Where the hell was Hizbollah? Holding onto the axles?
    But keep on making excuses and indulging in jejune personal attacks. It’s all you’ve got–and that’s not much, you know.

  11. Dear Dr. Dawg
    I am just curious, has there been any Israeli children injured or killed since this affair began last week. I have not seen any pictures yet, so no doubt that there hasn’t been, correct? I formed this as a rhetorical question so you could give me a rhetorical answer (is there such a thing as a rhetorical answer?)

  12. Maybe it’s time you folks get a look at what you’re cheering about.
    DrDawg – I know what I’m cheering on – the total destruction of terrorist Hezbollah with their 13,000 missiles aimed at civilians, Islamofascist gutblowers that target children, and every stinken rotten terrorist that can’t get out of bed in the morning because he’s dead. I cheer anyone that avenges the savage death of my 9/11 countrymen and neighbors. I cheer anyone that doesn’t hate women enough to imprison them in burqas and fights for their equal rights against the stone age customs of Islam. I cheer anyone that unmasks the fools that live among us like your smarmy self.
    And, it’s nothing personal on my part.

  13. Do you ever wonder why people from other countries carry their war to canada.Must you be born here to only care about canada mostly.I wish those who are not of this persuasion go home or whereever .People such as draft dogers dont fight for their country why would they fight for canada. So why should we support them.Things as compensating people who fought against us in ww2 drive real canadians such as veterans up the wall.Lets end all compensation for these groups and so called native groups.My father was a medic in the war in Italy ..god bless the military.Send all phoney canadians home??

  14. Do you ever wonder why people from other countries carry their war to canada.Must you be born here to only care about canada mostly.I wish those who are not of this persuasion go home or whereever .People such as draft dogers dont fight for their country why would they fight for canada. So why should we support them.Things as compensating people who fought against us in ww2 drive real canadians such as veterans up the wall.Lets end all compensation for these groups and so called native groups.My father was a medic in the war in Italy ..god bless the military.Send all phoney canadians home??

  15. I love how the dawg-faced boy turns up every once in a while in an attempt to drum up visitors to his greatly ignored site. Ignored, that is, except for his small circle of friends including Bi-Guy, “Fuck The Jews” McClelland, and Fat Tony Zerbisias.
    I look forward to photos of whole families blown to bits of Bar Mitzvahs, and close-up of what those orthodox guys are doing when they scape bits of flesh and bone from the asphalt.
    But I won’t hold my breath.

  16. Foreign nationals in Lebanon, according to the Beeb:
    Britain: 10,000
    France: 20,000
    Australia: 25,000
    Canada: 40,000
    Denmark: 2,300
    Sweden: 5,000
    Spain: 600
    Italy: 1,000
    Germany: 1,100
    Philipines: 30,000
    Ukraine: 1,600
    Romania: 600
    Bulgaria: 500
    Finland: 160
    New Zealand: 40

  17. Stand fast, Prime Minister Harper.
    Stand with Israel.
    Long live freedom and democracy. …-
    Harper stands firm in support of Israel despite Canadian deaths
    The deaths of seven Canadians during Israel’s bombing of Lebanon have not changed Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s position on the crisis in the Middle East. …-
    via nealenews

  18. I am just curious, has there been any Israeli children injured or killed since this affair began last week. I have not seen any pictures yet, so no doubt that there hasn’t been, correct? I formed this as a rhetorical question so you could give me a rhetorical answer (is there such a thing as a rhetorical answer?)
    Well, there are a few of those on this very thread. : )
    The only Israeli civilian deaths I am aware of are in Haifa (8). I have seen no reports that these included children. I think we would have heard by now if there had been.

  19. I’m curious, Dawg, how do you feel about Hezbollah and their rocket attacks on Israel?

  20. mississauga matt – thanks for the statistics. The Star has just upped the number of Canadians in Lebanon to 50,000 – ‘most are dual citizens who live there permanently’.
    What I would like to know – is why do so many Canadians have this ‘dual citizenship’? What are the benefits that Canada is giving them – which aren’t available via the other countries? Canada has the highest number of all countries. Why? Why?
    Again, this war has little, indeed, almost nothing to do with Israel-Palestine. It’s really about Iran. Iran wants a war with the west. It has nothing to do with helping the Palestinians. It’s all about Iran and Islamic fascism. Iran is using Hamas and Hezbollah – and Israel. It is trying to escalate the situation, to get Israel to attack Syria – so that Iran will get directly involved. At the moment, Iran is indirectly involved because it is running Hamas and Hezbollah.
    Israel is trying to reduce the Hezbollah’s strength and thus, their capacity to be used by Iran and Syria.

  21. All the world is calling for restraint by Isreal, tell me, just what the hell does that word mean. After nearly 60 years those people are going though the same damn thing, year after year, when are you allowed to say this is it, one more time and I am going to wipe you. The left-ern world likes that word because they can then be seen and heard to be compasionate. Compasionate my ass, compassion is ending the conflict once and for all by whatever means so both sides can eventually live normal lives. Is comapssion allowing this conflict to go on another 60 years so you can be seen to be compasionate the fact aside that hundreds will die every year. If that is compassion in the eyes of god/allah then give me a wooden idol.

  22. I saw member’s of the Lebanese family on TV. One lady cried out, in French, that her country was in ruins.
    She wasn’t talking about Canada.
    She wasn’t even talking about Quebec.
    Then another family member said he loved Hizb’Allah.
    Kinda stepping in it a bit, but I guess they have to be given some slack.

  23. Hey dawg, the fact that only eight civilians have been killed by Hezbolla rocket attacks, is not for lack of trying. I guess that little fact is lost on you.

  24. Objective reporting in action from the Star article previously referenced:
    http://tinyurl.com/ge9ge
    “Harper’s seeming lack of nuance, empathy and people skills are making his week-long diplomatic foray, which included a visit to Britain before attending his first G8 meeting, an excruciating exercise.”
    Curious minds want to know for whom it was so excruciating…

  25. OK, this is really off-topic, and I know some people won’t appreciate the humour, but..
    On the “The Simpsons” tonight, the episode concerned the future of Bart and Lisa. As Principal Skinner congratulates the graduating class, he says “I offer my best wishes to those of you going on to college, and to those of you going to Gulf War V “The Search for the President’s Head”.

  26. I am a 5th generation of Irish immigrants who came here because of despicable circumstances in Ireland. We have propered peacefully except for our contributions to two World Wars as Canadians. It is time for Israel with international help to implement the UN resolution to disarm Hezbollah and, if necessary, by destroying Hezbollah on the battlefield – the sooner the better before the whiners gain some control.

  27. I am a 5th generation of Irish immigrants who came here because of despicable circumstances in Ireland. We have propered peacefully except for our contributions to two World Wars as Canadians. It is time for Israel with international help to implement the UN resolution to disarm Hezbollah and, if necessary, by destroying Hezbollah on the battlefield – the sooner the better before the whiners gain some control.

  28. ET:
    What I would like to know – is why do so many Canadians have this ‘dual citizenship’? What are the benefits that Canada is giving them – which aren’t available via the other countries? Canada has the highest number of all countries. Why? Why?
    An excellent bevy of insightful posts.
    Western Canadian as well. You hit it right on the nose, with no gloves. I agree completely with this sentiment.
    Is compassion allowing this conflict to go on another 60 years so you can be seen to be compassionate the fact aside that hundreds will die every year
    Especially your Pointing out of this anomaly.
    You know that was the first Question I asked myself, after reading this stat. What in heavens name is 50,000 Canadians doing in Lebanon. Are they just living there & using Canadian citizenship as an out?
    Working for Parks I have meet many Lebanese groups at reserve functions. Most of the older folks tend to talk about retiring in there Homeland there.
    Most of there Canadian born kids, go there quite frequently for visits.
    If I had to venture a guess. I would say this situation generally follows the Mexican one in the US. Work here than leave when funds permit a good life in Lebanon. Sounds to familiar to me.
    Just a personnel supposition.
    As for Israel & Jewish safety. After the World has tried to exterminate them 5 times. I think they have the right of it if not an obligation to there children. Just a personnel supposition.
    Frankly the rest of the World has no moral right to say anything. The British kicked them out in 1215 & the Spanish in 1498. Including there Christian marinaos population. It took them like England, 300 years to recover . The Russians had incessant programs. Under the Soviets it was no different. The Germans, well we all know what they did. Rome in her day killed millions in two Jewish Roman wars. One By Vespasian, the other Hadrian. I could chronicle many many other atrocities done them. IS it too much that they have there own land & the ability to fight them that would kill them all?
    I feel for the family’s who lost loved ones in this war. Particularly the children. I have to ask though . Why would any parent in there right minds keep a child in a war zone?

  29. We do need to question the very large numbers of Canadians in Lebanon.
    The United States has some 25,ooo citizens there. Canada 40-50,000! That is some kind of weird ratio!
    Who can explain it?
    Do they partake of our health care system and more, when they need it, without putting in a dime of taxes since they live in Lebanon?
    If they have dual citizenship, why don’t they get the Lebanese government to get them out of the war zone.
    I for one, want to see a whole lot more explanation for where our money goes here…a whole lot!
    And when I hear the very public family say that the Hezbollah was protecting their house in Lebanon, I expect they could then ask the Hezbollah to get them to safety.
    We need to ask that these people take responsibility for deliberately going to live in, or visit, a known war zone.
    And most assuredly they need to take responsibility for taking their children to a known war zone!
    And what other country has the same arrangement with Canada, of dual citizenship advantages, that we all get to pay for?

  30. while I agree with the general spirit of the post.. there is a label of deception we should not accept in this..,
    Very few countries in the world today possess sophisticated antiship missiles, military drones or ballistic rockets. Certainly Kofi Annan’s Ghana does not. Yet nonstate Hezbollah does. And in a while, though it is pooh-poohed, nonstate entities like al-Qaeda, LET, or the Hezbollah itself could acquire chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.
    Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran and so not really a **nonstate entity**.
    It is Iran*s immense oil wealth that affords Hezbolah the modern sophisticated long range weapons that most NATIONS can not afford to have in any real quantity.
    Logically then Isreal could demand Iran withdraw their proxy [Hezbollah] or suffer the consequences directly.
    If there is going to be a mess on the carpet it should be on Iran*s not on Lebanon*s carpet.
    Messy question, you say?
    Why is Chretien not behind bars?
    Another messy question? TG

  31. For those prattling on about the evils of dual citizenship, a reality check:
    Canada allows dual nationality. Of course, Canada could insist that those becoming Canadian citizens renounce their former citizenship.
    But this would merely be a symbolic gesture with no legal basis.
    Obviously, all countries reserve the right to determine their own citizenship requirements. It’s not up to Canada to decide whether someone is a Lebanese citizen or not; it’s up to Lebanon.
    Effectively, a person who “renounced” their former citizenship to become Canadian could still be legally considered a citizen of that country regardless. It’s the country’s call, not the individual’s.*
    The only way to ensure no “dual citizens” in Canada would be to restrict citizenship to those born in Canada (even so, many of these could still be dual citizens by default).**
    So you’re effectively shutting down any immigration.
    * Remember that female Canadian journalist in Iran? As far as Iran was concerned, she was Iranian.
    ** Example: if your Dad was born in Newcastle, England but you were born in Medicine Hat, Alberta, you’re a British citizen, chum.

  32. We need to ask that these people take responsibility for deliberately going to live in, or visit, a known war zone.
    And most assuredly they need to take responsibility for taking their children to a known war zone!
    Additionally, they must have known that they were going into a terrorist-controlled zone. They must have known that Hizb’Allah controls the area, that Hizb’Allah was operating in civilian areas, and that Hizb’allah was launching rockets at Israel in large numbers.
    But they had no qualms about going, at least not enough to stop them from doing so.

  33. Hey, here’s one for the dawg-faced boy: unconfirmed reports of Hizb’Allah firing on Lebanese.
    Army Radio is airing reports now that Hezbollah is firing on Lebanese citizens who are trying to flee their towns after being warned by Israeli Air Force leaflets that they will come under fire and are trying to get away!?
    No doubt there will be pictures at the dawg pile if confirmed. OK then, there’s a lot of doubt.

  34. And yet another one for the dawg-faced boy:
    An Arab prisoner Hizballah wants Israel to release in exchange for the two Israeli soldiers it abducted in a cross-border raid last week is serving multiple life sentences for an attack in which he killed a four-year-old girl by smashing her skull with a rifle butt.
    Samir Kuntar is one of only two or three Lebanese prisoners still held by Israel, and Hizballah said its July 12 assault is aimed at winning his freedom.

    A website set up by family members says Kuntar was jailed “for killing several Israelis in a raid on northern Israel.”
    Israeli media and eyewitness accounts of the incident provide much more detail. Kuntar was one of a four-man group that crossed into Israel by sea, sent on the mission by the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), an affiliate of Yasser Arafat’s PLO.
    In the coastal town of Nahariya, the terrorists shot dead a policeman and forced their way into an apartment building, where they captured Danny Haran and his daughter, Einat, 4.
    While the terrorists rampaged through the apartment, firing weapons and detonating grenades, Haran’s wife Smadar hid in a crawlspace above the couple’s bedroom together with their other daughter, two-year-old Yael, and a neighbor.
    In an effort to prevent Yael from crying out and alerting the terrorists to their whereabouts, Smadar kept her hand over the child’s mouth, and accidentally smothered her to death.
    Meanwhile Kuntar and his group took Danny and Einat Haran to the beach.
    “Then he smashed my little girl’s skull in against a rock with his rifle butt. That terrorist was Samir Kuntar.”

  35. “The only Israeli civilian deaths I am aware of are in Haifa (8). I have seen no reports that these included children. I think we would have heard by now if there had been.” – Dr. Dawg
    Thanks to several people for responding to the good dr.’s answer to my question. Had to play ball and assumed correctly that people here would pick up on the sarcasm and respond in the appropriate manner to him. Seems to be a problem with the sarcasm detectors, read QOTW and laughed like hell.

  36. “Obviously, all countries reserve the right to determine their own citizenship requirements. It’s not up to Canada to decide whether someone is a Lebanese citizen or not; it’s up to Lebanon.”
    While a country may determine its own criteria for citizenship requirement, *its other citizens* are within their rights, to ask that new citizens swear allegiance to one, and only one, country.
    Canadians have witnessed the lack of ability/response from their *other* country of allegiance, Lebanon, to get them out.
    We know better about a whole lot more now, including where allegiances lie, when it suits.
    ~~~
    “So you’re effectively shutting down any immigration.”
    Well, that is about the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while.
    If people want to come here, and be given all the rights the rest of us enjoy, they best get over the *minor inconvenience* of dropping their old citizenship.

  37. “If people want to come here, and be given all the rights the rest of us enjoy, they best get over the *minor inconvenience* of dropping their old citizenship.”
    Except, my dear fellow, you forget that they may have absolutely NO legal entitlement to “drop their old citizenship.”
    That decision remains entirely within the purview of the country in which they hold that citizenship, not the individual.
    Canada has absolutely NO authority to cancel Lebanese (or any other) citizenship; it can only cancel Canadian citizenship. Canada could require all those Lebanese to renounce their Lebanese citizenship (the US approach) but this would mean nothing unless the Lebanese government recognized their renunciation – which it is not obliged to do.
    You would indeed have to more or less shut down immigration entirely in order to be sure there were no more dual citizens. You’d also have to make it illegal for Canadians to marry a foreigner or be born in another country.
    Two last points:
    1. It’s complicated.
    2. You need to get out more.

  38. Canada has absolutely NO authority to cancel Lebanese (or any other) citizenship
    I would suggest that Canada has LESS responsibility for nationals who make a permanent home abroad than it has towards those of us with a permanent Canadian address.

  39. “Except, my dear fellow, you forget that they may have absolutely NO legal entitlement to “drop their old citizenship.”
    First: “May” is a complicated word in the legal world.
    Many of us assumed, innocently enough, that if people came here to Canada, they would be *fully grateful* enough to forego any other alliance.
    Silly us, huh, expecting complete honesty when they sign on to our citizenship. Oh, we will “get out” on this, you can be sure.
    Second: The honesty of allegiance to this country by those holding dual citizenship, may be of no interest/consequence to you.
    Obviously for others of us, now, it is.
    And in that vein, where is the expectation from those who have gone back to live in their *other* country, that Lebanon step up, and get them out of there?
    Third: Assumptions re “dear fellow” would be a mistake. But you knew that too;)

  40. So there are +/- 40,000 Canadians ‘marooned’ in Lebanon I hear. Funny how a couple of weeks ago the were hyphenated – but now they lose the hyphen and cut the mother land and run. Before the tragic ‘tourists’ are repatriated (by cruise ship no less) from their shortened perpetual holiday in Lebanon, I have a couple of questions for the Canadian Parliament.
    1. How many of these Canadian ‘tourists’ to Lebanon receive social services payments from the Government of Canada?
    2. Who is paying for the cruise out of Lebanon, and,
    3. When the cruise docks in Canada, where will the 40,000 be accommodated. I better not hear any fucking talk about ‘temporary’ shelter in 5 star hotels under any circumstances!!!! Not with my tax dollars.

  41. If the Hezbollah zones are a nation within a nation, there are lots of nations within nations within Canaduh where we can house them.
    and lots have no roads.
    time to draw a line in the muskeg .

  42. “I would suggest that Canada has LESS responsibility for nationals who make a permanent home abroad than it has towards those of us with a permanent Canadian address.”
    A Canadian citizen is Canadian citizen, chum, whether they choose to live in Timbuktu or Regina.

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