12 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. Ah yes. The Younger Drayas. It just HAD to be those nasty farts from the mammoths. I mean if a piddly little cow fart can screw up the earth,then what about a mammoths? Only sure thing? These clowns have no idea what the heck they are talking about. It’s the SUN,stupid.

  2. I think (justly) that the most relative point the article makes is that the “believers” will not be moved. And were have we seen that before?

  3. It was obviously Bush’s fault.
    What we need to immediately do is implement a carbon tax and trade carbon credits to correct this disaster. Chairman Mo and Saint Al are setting up the mechanisms to do this right now, for the common good of course

  6. Silly people, everyone knows white male racist-homophobic-misogynistic haters caused the Younger Drayas. Ice core samples prove this to be true and anyone who disagrees is a JOOOOOOO drinking the blood of moslem children.

  7. The little iceage of only 400 years ago had the mendenhall glacier above Juneau gallop forward by fully 11 km, the angel glacier in jasper all the way out to the parking lot and glaciers in Switzerland covering villages
    It was warmer before that

  9. My reading of this is that there are two camps of ideologically-based, publish-or-perish science workers fighting it out tooth and nail. We may never find out what actually happened, since each side will be completely motivated to destroy the other side’s argument no matter what the cost.
    This is the same sort of sickness that has infected the climate change debate (or lack thereof).

  10. Without venturing a detailed opinion, it would seem fairly logical to expect a series of large fluctuations in the transition from maximum glaciation to this current inter-glacial climate that has remained (in very long-term context) more or less stable for about ten thousand years. People will immediately jump up and down and scream no it hasn’t, but when you compare the temperature changes in the Dryas fluctuations with those since, you’ll see that the inter-glacial has varied by less than a third of those end-of-glacial oscillations.
    Now it’s quite valid to search for detailed reasons but you would have to think that the mere process of melting a vast amount of ice would create an unstable global climate for some number of millennia until things stabilized on the large scale. The ice fluctuations in historical times have not been all that great on the sort of scale that we could apply to the Dryas, at one point half of Canada was covered in ice then soon afterward it was almost as ice-free as today.
    Probably more to do with complex interactions of ocean and geomagnetic field variations than just solar changes (by which I imagine some mean both solar activity and Milankovich cycles), the solar changes were not of the same magnitude as the Dryas flip-flops which is probably what attracted some to the impact theory. But although everyone and his dog is now a climate authority, fact is that the global atmospheric system is horrendously complex and nobody alive today really understands it that well. The sun of course explains everything and nothing at the same time.

  11. (note — by one half of Canada, I was referring to conditions around the Dryas period and not at the glacial maximum many thousands of years earlier when perhaps 90% of Canada was covered by ice).

  12. A slightly more detailed abstract here: (I won’t pay the NAS)
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113145713/younger-dryas-event-comet-impact-theory-051414/
    This actually does quite a bit of damage to archaeology as a science, or, more pointedly, archaeologists as scientists. They are no different than any other tribe. It seems that standing on the precipice of discovery causes masturbatory frenzies so fierce that blindness is inevitable. Peer review becomes group love and intellectual circles full of jerks.

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